From unknown Fri Aug 15 18:49:19 2025 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#1250: quail/uni-input and quail/hangul autoloaded during -Q startup, with LANG=C Reply-To: Dan Nicolaescu , 1250@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Dan Nicolaescu Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:10:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1250 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.122495429029532 (code B ref -1); Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:10:03 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Oct 2008 17:04:50 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9PH4hoc029526 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:04:45 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KtmZ9-00015M-JO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:04:43 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KtmZ9-00014v-0P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:04:43 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55092 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtmZ8-00014r-OY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:04:42 -0400 Received: from barrelv2.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.114]:63589) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KtmZ8-00060S-Fy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:04:42 -0400 Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by barrelv2.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m9PH4K1L012661 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dann@localhost) by mothra.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id m9PH4KNw017302; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200810251704.m9PH4KNw017302@mothra.ics.uci.edu> From: Dan Nicolaescu To: bug-gnu-emacs Lines: 14 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: m9PH4K1L012661 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) LANG is set to C When starting up emacs -Q autoloads quail/uni-input for ucs-input-activate and quail/hangul for hangul-input-method-activate emacs-22 did not use to do that. This seems like a waste, if these things are used (and probably are not), they should be in the dumped image, autoloading at startup just make the startup slower. From rgm@gnu.org Thu Jan 15 15:38:28 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 15 Jan 2009 23:38:28 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.3 required=4.0 tests=MISSING_SUBJECT,NOSUBJECT, VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0FNcPDO030885 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:38:27 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LNblm-0003kP-P8; Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:37:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18799.51358.725326.185170@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:37:02 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: control severity 1305 wishlist severity 1303 minor severity 1250 minor severity 1367 wishlist severity 1405 minor severity 1457 wishlist severity 1555 minor severity 1569 minor severity 1688 minor close 1705 severity 1731 minor close 1756 severity 1768 minor severity 1779 minor tags 1798 moreinfo reassign 1860 notemacs reassign 1902 emacs,ns reassign 1924 spam reassign 1926 notemacs stop From unknown Fri Aug 15 18:49:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#1250: quail/uni-input and quail/hangul autoloaded during -Q startup, with LANG=C Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 18:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 1250 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dan Nicolaescu Cc: 1250@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 1250-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B1250.13100631167498 (code B ref 1250); Thu, 07 Jul 2011 18:26:01 +0000 Received: (at 1250) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2011 18:25:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QetGG-0001wp-0P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:25:16 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QetGE-0001wc-Lb for 1250@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:25:15 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QetG2-0007Ui-BN; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 20:25:02 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <200810251704.m9PH4KNw017302@mothra.ics.uci.edu> (Dan Nicolaescu's message of "Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:04:20 -0700 (PDT)") Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 20:22:33 +0200 Message-ID: References: <200810251704.m9PH4KNw017302@mothra.ics.uci.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: The Smiths's _Hatful Of Hollow_: "William It Was Really Nothing" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110707:1250@debbugs.gnu.org::X2AbCmkt4SHpCPwC:000000000000000000000000000000000000000002d99 X-Hashcash: 1:23:110707:dann@ics.uci.edu::8gK5Fm7nOiZ2Cnev:0WDWF X-Hashcash: 1:23:110707:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org::0gWZqUR/mMrEmJRk:0000000000000000000000000000000000000001KlNS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QetG2-0007Ui-BN X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310667902.7155@fHy4QJPhoLhiAiPxn/J3jQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Dan Nicolaescu writes: > LANG is set to C > > When starting up emacs -Q autoloads > quail/uni-input for ucs-input-activate > and > quail/hangul for hangul-input-method-activate > > emacs-22 did not use to do that. > > This seems like a waste, if these things are used (and probably are > not), they should be in the dumped image, autoloading at startup just > make the startup slower. Does Emacs still do this? I tried with Emacs 24, and id didn't load any extra quail stuff on startup... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Fri Aug 15 18:49:19 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Dan Nicolaescu Subject: bug#1250: closed (Re: bug#1250: quail/uni-input and quail/hangul autoloaded during -Q startup, with LANG=C) Message-ID: References: <200810251704.m9PH4KNw017302@mothra.ics.uci.edu> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 1250 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 1250@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 05:24:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1310102642-2689-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1310102642-2689-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #1250: quail/uni-input and quail/hangul autoloaded during -Q startup, with = LANG=3DC which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 1250@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 1250: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D1250 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1310102642-2689-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 1250-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jul 2011 05:23:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qf3Xi-0000h9-GY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 01:23:58 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qf3Xg-0000gy-C3 for 1250-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 01:23:57 -0400 Received: from dann by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qf3XZ-0000Tf-UP; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 01:23:49 -0400 From: Dan Nicolaescu To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#1250: quail/uni-input and quail/hangul autoloaded during -Q startup, with LANG=C References: <200810251704.m9PH4KNw017302@mothra.ics.uci.edu> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 01:23:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 07 Jul 2011 20:22:33 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 1250-done Cc: 1250-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Dan Nicolaescu writes: > >> LANG is set to C >> >> When starting up emacs -Q autoloads >> quail/uni-input for ucs-input-activate >> and >> quail/hangul for hangul-input-method-activate >> >> emacs-22 did not use to do that. >> >> This seems like a waste, if these things are used (and probably are >> not), they should be in the dumped image, autoloading at startup just >> make the startup slower. > > Does Emacs still do this? I tried with Emacs 24, and id didn't load any > extra quail stuff on startup... Seems to be fixed. Closing the bug. Thanks! ------------=_1310102642-2689-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu Sat Oct 25 10:04:50 2008 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2007-08-08) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FOURLA, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.3-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 25 Oct 2008 17:04:50 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m9PH4hoc029526 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:04:45 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KtmZ9-00015M-JO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:04:43 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KtmZ9-00014v-0P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:04:43 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55092 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KtmZ8-00014r-OY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:04:42 -0400 Received: from barrelv2.ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.114]:63589) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KtmZ8-00060S-Fy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:04:42 -0400 Received: from mothra.ics.uci.edu (mothra.ics.uci.edu [128.195.6.93]) by barrelv2.ics.uci.edu (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m9PH4K1L012661 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dann@localhost) by mothra.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id m9PH4KNw017302; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200810251704.m9PH4KNw017302@mothra.ics.uci.edu> From: Dan Nicolaescu To: bug-gnu-emacs Subject: quail/uni-input and quail/hangul autoloaded during -Q startup, with LANG=C X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Lines: 14 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: m9PH4K1L012661 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@mothra.ics.uci.edu X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) LANG is set to C When starting up emacs -Q autoloads quail/uni-input for ucs-input-activate and quail/hangul for hangul-input-method-activate emacs-22 did not use to do that. This seems like a waste, if these things are used (and probably are not), they should be in the dumped image, autoloading at startup just make the startup slower. ------------=_1310102642-2689-1--