From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 17 11:39:09 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2012 15:39:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40081 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDdPh-0000D4-1o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:39:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59055) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDdPf-0000Cx-JX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:39:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDdOM-00031V-Sa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:37:52 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:59096) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDdOM-00031Q-P9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:37:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56445) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDdOD-0007Wu-BX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:37:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDdO6-0002uM-Fo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:37:37 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:40629) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TDdO6-0002ts-9e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:37:30 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q8HFbR0P028208 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:37:28 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8HFbQ5J019755 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:37:27 GMT Received: from abhmt114.oracle.com (abhmt114.oracle.com [141.146.116.66]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q8HFbQWh021472 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:37:26 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.248) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:37:26 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.2.50; toggling read-only interactively: echo new state Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:37:25 -0700 Message-ID: <94FF041B84A0444FB919BF8248D197DB@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2U6lZFgdL51NeQSvmTdTnpqyC39Q== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) For `toggle-read-only' and similar commands: Please add an optional, boolean MSGP parameter which when non-nil echoes the new state. Make the argument non-nil when the command is called interactively. In GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-09-17 on MARVIN Bzr revision: 110062 cyd@gnu.org-20120917054104-r93rtwkrtva73ewe Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.13.1-1-dev/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8/include/libxml2' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 17 12:06:55 2012 Received: (at 12460) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2012 16:06:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40109 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDdqZ-0000qe-E0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:06:55 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:47630) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDdqX-0000qX-9p for 12460@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:06:54 -0400 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q8HG5aP5000942 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <12460@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:05:37 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8HG5Z7P005927 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <12460@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:05:36 GMT Received: from abhmt117.oracle.com (abhmt117.oracle.com [141.146.116.69]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q8HG5ZFJ001524 for <12460@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:05:35 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.248) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:05:35 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: <12460@debbugs.gnu.org> References: <94FF041B84A0444FB919BF8248D197DB@us.oracle.com> Subject: RE: bug#12460: 24.2.50; toggling read-only interactively: echo new state Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:05:34 -0700 Message-ID: <197F31F122D94388885C1430E85C7D3A@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <94FF041B84A0444FB919BF8248D197DB@us.oracle.com> Thread-Index: Ac2U6lZFgdL51NeQSvmTdTnpqyC39QAA4oUQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12460 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) And since you've now made `toggle-read-only' obsolete (though it is still invoked by `C-x C-q' - see bug #12462), please make `read-only-mode' echo the new state as well. It too should provide a Boolean arg or equivalent to control the display of the new-state message from Lisp. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 17 13:33:40 2012 Received: (at 12460) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2012 17:33:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40211 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDfCV-0002oo-Ss for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:33:40 -0400 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:55898) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDfCS-0002og-UX for 12460@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:33:38 -0400 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8HHWK7H030528; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:32:20 -0400 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2ABB2B4071; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:32:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#12460: 24.2.50; toggling read-only interactively: echo new state Message-ID: References: <94FF041B84A0444FB919BF8248D197DB@us.oracle.com> <197F31F122D94388885C1430E85C7D3A@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:32:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: <197F31F122D94388885C1430E85C7D3A@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:05:34 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12460 Cc: 12460@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) > And since you've now made `toggle-read-only' obsolete (though it is > still invoked by `C-x C-q' - see bug #12462), please make > `read-only-mode' echo the new state as well. It too should provide > a Boolean arg or equivalent to control the display of the new-state > message from Lisp. All minor modes follow the same rule and use `called-interactively-p' rather than an extra argument. So if we want to change it it's in easy-mmode.el and will apply to all minor modes. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 17 13:46:19 2012 Received: (at 12460) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2012 17:46:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40234 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDfOk-00036g-Gv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:46:19 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:18355) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDfOh-00036T-0x for 12460@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:46:17 -0400 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q8HHiu4Q012408 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:44:58 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8HHitF3016015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:44:56 GMT Received: from abhmt117.oracle.com (abhmt117.oracle.com [141.146.116.69]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q8HHithU021381; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:44:55 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.248) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:44:55 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Stefan Monnier'" References: <94FF041B84A0444FB919BF8248D197DB@us.oracle.com><197F31F122D94388885C1430E85C7D3A@us.oracle.com> Subject: RE: bug#12460: 24.2.50; toggling read-only interactively: echo new state Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:44:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3F29814CADB6480FB844004CADC68CF8@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2U+mm3NY30/vfYT9y5TmpzBy+94AAAKc7A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12460 Cc: 12460@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) > > And since you've now made `toggle-read-only' obsolete (though it is > > still invoked by `C-x C-q' - see bug #12462), please make > > `read-only-mode' echo the new state as well. It too should provide > > a Boolean arg or equivalent to control the display of the new-state > > message from Lisp. > > All minor modes follow the same rule and use `called-interactively-p' > rather than an extra argument. So if we want to change it it's in > easy-mmode.el and will apply to all minor modes. I see. And I see that `read-only-mode' already does echo the new state when invoked interactively. I guess this can be closed - I'll do that. But please update the doc (bug #12462). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 17 13:46:19 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2012 17:46:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40236 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDfOl-00036j-B9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:46:19 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:18368) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDfOi-00036V-45 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:46:17 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q8HHiwxP012422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:44:59 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8HHiv5n011215 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:44:58 GMT Received: from abhmt117.oracle.com (abhmt117.oracle.com [141.146.116.69]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q8HHiveS021424 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:44:57 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.248) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:44:56 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: close 12460 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:44:56 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2U/CamqHlGik8mTvKyqRwGpplGYA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) close 12460 thanks From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:18:47 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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