From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.134735454826155 (code B ref -1); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:10:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 09:09:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53624 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMSy-0006nn-Gi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:09:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38849) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMSw-0006nh-JY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:09:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMSF-0005jp-8i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:08:27 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:59818) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMSF-0005jj-5H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:08:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMS9-0006EU-Ci for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:08:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMS4-0005hw-Gw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:08:17 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:58542) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMS4-0005hs-At for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:08:12 -0400 Received: by weys10 with SMTP id s10so189332wey.0 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:08:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=D2+VnqhR5SBWN1IXnCI555OHkIKOSvsis93FJukSjG0=; b=GNhUDjckAuXkFolbPCjx8+wLmQ3PFMraF478TNAElwzvTeKIOAfT9RgNMrKXIqzBhU BZ2Pu6qRy6vz6Pk5I05TqUYwvI5m/zz2EJl/tJEoY83SQ8lUPJNSNMUg9xl1DMYWLw62 ugj8I5a9ZH1ktCCOtmlsMiNT80ETMxL3yTcv4BvMHamZ4MWY/1oRdCF4tDtcASMGKnm8 0NQL0fbEpSRGF+CBoMsZbDMysbKb1NGZqbzVroWZlkmEqZtr1X4BkCy8fuRKysjfFaMW M9keaeDYuo9F/aJ01EdyfRMljObE0BHeM+z9nb5W5f7zVhdEu94XCtGE3dkLLocALUMU +OMQ== Received: by 10.216.194.143 with SMTP id m15mr9862247wen.128.1347354491534; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhost.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t7sm2529109wix.6.2012.09.11.02.08.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B2E6F89A2; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:08:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:08:14 +0200 Message-ID: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) I ran `make distclean' three times. The first time it ran ./configure. The second time it didn't run ./configure. The third time it didn't run at all because of the absence of Makefile. Each time the lisp/*.elc files are left untouched/undeleted. I expected them to be deleted -- what am I doing wrong? Thanks, In GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2012-09-10 on myhost Bzr revision: 109965 cyd@gnu.org-20120910032510-vrblnwlfnsb0cx3s Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11201000 Important settings: value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t -- Bastien From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bastien Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.1347359214491 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 10:26:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53726 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBNgD-00007r-Bv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:26:53 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:36338) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBNg9-00007h-KY for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:26:51 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3XGMjD72gcz4KKBx; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:26:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: 2qrNEx1YN0ODRjyt03y38zytpxdKpSPGI3HFO6uuXP4= Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-103-232.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.103.232]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3XGMjB4TLyzbbhC; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:26:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 674C7CA2A4; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:26:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> X-Yow: I'm protected by a ROLL-ON I rented from AVIS.. Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:26:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> (Bastien's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:08:14 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) distclean does not remove distributed files. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.134736673414484 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:33:02 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 12:32:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53800 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBPdW-0003lZ-IF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:32:14 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:62090) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBPdU-0003lR-FD for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:32:13 -0400 Received: by wgi16 with SMTP id 16so316101wgi.15 for <12412@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:31:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=4xfo8atWpgeDfEYRIQ3fPmen1wiQO8U9DGRlLSCk5GE=; b=JbOrjcKUEJxOSrwNRt7KGphCGHqzSOV3iN+acgbtA0vQYiRkHPPJSLs/XUm7gECruC 5oAc+lTAxU99MCIPhtLwk6NTwe/Av2vVhSejm8phcE7cTuQsHFcc8Ce+7HyykX/RwW1F 9vr51yo+Eo9qO3qBfRnWxgLzwB0+hUFEeikV6emN4Nm2cUgW9TCMHdebn5L1grK+ydut sJv+NH1G+l2IM19IecucKOJ3HvHje3IPkQ4q6dA93lQaAnAWhFeuviKIqLC/Ta0Z9ZDh oIzI8+G2O89RRrG0Q4mktRqyDatgTgaHnKt6OUVfdTflgYUzRD2toJsnOjDccsItJaQp DXeQ== Received: by 10.216.71.82 with SMTP id q60mr10539437wed.64.1347366687477; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhost.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t8sm2395919wiy.3.2012.09.11.05.31.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7B51F89A2; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:31:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:26:04 +0200") References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:31:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Andreas Schwab writes: > distclean does not remove distributed files. It is hard to guess in the absence of `make help'. >From INSTALL: ... 4. If you need to run the `configure' script more than once (e.g., with some non-default options), always clean the source directories before running `configure' again: make distclean ./configure ... To also remove the files that `configure' created (so you can compile Emacs for a different configuration), type `make distclean'. How to remove the .elc files? What is the difference between `make clean' and `make distclean'? -- Bastien From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bastien Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.134736745415587 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 12:44:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53805 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBPp7-00043L-Nk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:44:14 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:46934) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBPp3-000439-FO for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:44:10 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3XGQlh0jDJz3hhZq; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:43:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: jihC159CMRSKFLyDJt1kQN04RtMJXtKYD/dLAkHEKcQ= Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-103-232.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.103.232]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3XGQld4y2Yzbbhk; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:43:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0B927CA2A4; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:43:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> X-Yow: I'm sitting on my SPEED QUEEN.. To me, it's ENJOYABLE.. I'm WARM.. I'm VIBRATORY.. Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:43:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> (Bastien's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:31:30 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Bastien writes: > Andreas Schwab writes: > >> distclean does not remove distributed files. > > It is hard to guess in the absence of `make help'. * Note (standards) Standard Targets:: Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.134736884117830 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:08:01 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 13:07:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53823 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBQBU-0004dW-UV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:07:21 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]:33129) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBQBS-0004dN-3u for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:07:20 -0400 Received: by weyu54 with SMTP id u54so287127wey.3 for <12412@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:06:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q4xqXtdcvEkHskUzO3XvC1tgCg9pbBRQiHg2ER19pwg=; b=Xx24z2FGO+cQ6g6nHk+2F6UJwK2iv8+tuI9QTA647Lmn5NI29EmFzacnU7s/xMAw9s 3m+cTNVBC3kgZPB893i52/m9hIDlGPjqQAr3FuKXi1zmEkobdKuttCh2RZ6ROMeU8uoY FR0HhFEWiOD349gDqWt7dw3O3LAd8r3TNWEwq1bbZKuTe56/Jg6HHfq2A8l+5aKqwump mVXokabSrent8Z+B9CDWpsvSdYAeqsi1Q04GmhZb0atpx01QstJraVwrFy81V2Eja21V JNBBp3Kd0FKArYqnfzGMpavSkdOuhrA7ObNDaow9wL02c+yIO/iX+gRspRynAWIof2e0 oTqg== Received: by 10.216.245.70 with SMTP id n48mr9264737wer.139.1347368796779; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhost.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fr4sm3833543wib.8.2012.09.11.06.06.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4E88389A2; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:06:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:43:24 +0200") References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:06:38 +0200 Message-ID: <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Andreas Schwab writes: > Bastien writes: > >> Andreas Schwab writes: >> >>> distclean does not remove distributed files. >> >> It is hard to guess in the absence of `make help'. > > * Note (standards) Standard Targets:: So what I'm looking for is `make maintainer-clean'. But ̀make help' would still help. And from the info page above, I infer that the `clean' and `distclean' targets should remove the .elc files. -- Bastien From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bastien Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.134736998419386 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 13:26:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53832 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBQTv-00052c-NY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:26:23 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:56220) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBQTr-00052T-SB for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:26:21 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3XGRhL314Lz4KK45; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:25:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: Jyzjq9VA9E2/ykzaIIspuDPEHLoVCs9Y/z+V7PozRao= Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-103-232.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.103.232]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3XGRhL2gzhzbbcx; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:25:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 56DB0CA2A4; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:25:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> X-Yow: Is this "BOOZE"? Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:25:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> (Bastien's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:06:38 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Bastien writes: > And from the info page above, I infer that the `clean' > and `distclean' targets should remove the .elc files. No, they are distributed. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.134737034619952 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:33:02 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 13:32:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53859 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBQZl-0005Bl-KP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:32:25 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]:65039) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBQZj-0005Ba-I8 for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:32:24 -0400 Received: by weyu54 with SMTP id u54so302870wey.3 for <12412@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:31:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=8zRYXZIvBPr1OR6N6/KKa3oGfQUifrtYo/d9OrOhZYg=; b=wJwedaO3IkFqUBmDQRO6SdKmSdZNoIYk3zzI5FlM2RhYt6chT/oEHIQ2F+rqPQ+Wap h6wPcO+ffPqNMyDtTDJqshKUdtbjiBUi0vKSrrOlGi8QNGRLxfU+p7zcZ57WxFJ5uCPS OPQ4uHKXcyvQg0elxAYNzU92eorcVWA9b+ROpr3cUVMU1txXQ889eecIE0WkkPFzEqo9 xF/9avUWocyNk9MgQcKe0ZWI+TMgX7LGqH1vIvYf3DimE/2FzX7vWq54GP5uO4fM6p/y CjYJKU13gtMCBfjSZWKM+3Yq8kmX7dQ7YbAMDeex2aTcYzJjJ0CO96bhlPc+T2w7LhxH 1EwA== Received: by 10.217.1.79 with SMTP id m57mr9669987wes.121.1347370300962; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhost.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h9sm2621029wiz.1.2012.09.11.06.31.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0C6F389A2; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:31:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:25:35 +0200") References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:31:40 +0200 Message-ID: <87zk4wr8hv.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Andreas Schwab writes: > Bastien writes: > >> And from the info page above, I infer that the `clean' >> and `distclean' targets should remove the .elc files. > > No, they are distributed. What do you mean by "distributed"? I'm using the emacs-24 bzr branch. There is no .elc files here. After building from that branch, I expect `make distclean' to remove the .elc files. I also expect `make clean' to do this, actually. What is wrong in my expectations here? -- Bastien From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bastien Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.134737081220610 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 13:40:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53878 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBQhH-0005MM-Qe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:40:11 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:48214) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBQhG-0005MG-P2 for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:40:11 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3XGS0J5rhwz4KKCF; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:39:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: 3VR+ftCG/BREMlG6WqETBkHcBo5cvdElTUMGGfyln8I= Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-103-232.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.103.232]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3XGS0J5XMfzbbhv; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:39:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id DE265CA2A4; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:39:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> <87zk4wr8hv.fsf@altern.org> X-Yow: Not SENSUOUS... only ``FROLICSOME''... and in need of DENTAL WORK... in PAIN!!! Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:39:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87zk4wr8hv.fsf@altern.org> (Bastien's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:31:40 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Bastien writes: > What do you mean by "distributed"? $ make dist Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bastien Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.13473793991702 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 16:03:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54891 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBSvl-0000RO-U5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:03:18 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:53112) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBSvj-0000RH-8b for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:03:16 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBSv2-0007rh-H2; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:02:32 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> <87zk4wr8hv.fsf@altern.org> X-Spook: Mossad Security Council wire transfer Mole CDMA 9/11 X-Ran: y*}j?i.=L]hx45+pqbFQwV(iyt!0WyTge7wp%v<_)xE?M^%IpvIY1Z2aoEd2|58l?qM7{* X-Hue: white X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:02:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87zk4wr8hv.fsf@altern.org> (Bastien's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:31:40 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -7.3 (-------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.3 (-------) Bastien wrote: > What do you mean by "distributed"? Included in release tarfiles. These include several things that the VCS does not; info files, configure script, elc files, etc. distclean must not delete these things. (I don't know why it is such fun to be so terse no-one can understand you.) From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:21:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Glenn Morris Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.13473804373313 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:21:01 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 16:20:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54900 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBTCW-0000rN-BO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:20:37 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com ([209.85.212.174]:61328) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBTCU-0000rG-DI for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:20:35 -0400 Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so3134328wib.15 for <12412@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:19:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DZI2T+CUmUfGYCR62d5rVBppiNjO8nRzaOroN0qfWio=; b=sQIFXmUCvaRZtPQMcjIIHcqGm9+xs95hFJ/NjOY6vwg6KQ3MklPrX4PXCloT7qeosN Q3gkY2hPt+5CDd9OJDpBYu4dzDcBg1b8GE1f9BbyzEG5nJabLlQ0nJnqGbLFJHX7WOCi M/EdyQB1rr9A+8fk7j0Ifwu0e1Giq+GAhrYz/4tGzw8hjg6uYkp4oGoA/1CR8vN+GwUS STwmNJeEwKeFU6L+bUv2HcnwpJfLRRJd26xmb3GW69FRGPqo2afxWo3a6EII4Nlj+jfD tpCCR3F3ToaK4YWwdYMzz3HvS/tncqv+DUpk8SLYm5TAjgJ3lwEkV4zYgEOejvNowVHD O+8g== Received: by 10.180.108.45 with SMTP id hh13mr26163166wib.15.1347380391020; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhost.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bc2sm4944557wib.0.2012.09.11.09.19.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 09:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 59ED589A2; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:19:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:02:32 -0400") References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> <87zk4wr8hv.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:19:51 +0200 Message-ID: <87y5kgmt08.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Glenn Morris writes: > Bastien wrote: > >> What do you mean by "distributed"? > > Included in release tarfiles. These include several things that the VCS > does not; info files, configure script, elc files, etc. distclean must > not delete these things. Okay, I do understand now. Thanks, > (I don't know why it is such fun to be so terse no-one can understand > you.) I guess this "you" is for Andreas, right? Because this is the exact same impression I get from Andreas messages. I tried to ask something clearly, got extremely short answers, which gives me the impression that I'm stupid. Being stupid, I don't want to bother anyone with more than short sentences, and you get this kinda silly "conversation". Anyway, thanks for the answer. I continue to think having a ̀make help' would spare everyone's time by answering such questions in advance. -- Bastien From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Bastien Subject: bug#12412: closed (Re: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files) Message-ID: References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 12412 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: notabug Reply-To: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:25:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1347380702-3710-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1347380702-3710-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 12412@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 12412: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D12412 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1347380702-3710-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 12412-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 16:24:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54905 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBTFw-0000wl-Jx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:24:08 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:53619) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBTFu-0000we-KF for 12412-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:24:07 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBTFF-0003k9-39; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:23:25 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 12412-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> <87zk4wr8hv.fsf@altern.org> <87y5kgmt08.fsf@altern.org> X-Spook: Guantanamo enigma Capricorn offensive information warfare X-Ran: To}$:jYQ#ZG8R=U''iaws#{(#({VZ-^:+jqhG5>B}jhI6TjZra)L5r}s^w"kw,/X,fecuN X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:23:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87y5kgmt08.fsf@altern.org> (Bastien's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:19:51 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -7.3 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12412-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.3 (-------) (Yes, "You" did not mean "you, Bastien" :) ) Bastien wrote: > I continue to think having a =CC=80make help' would spare everyone's time= =20 > by answering such questions in advance. Since there is a separate report about that I'll close this one. ------------=_1347380702-3710-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 09:09:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53624 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMSy-0006nn-Gi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:09:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38849) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMSw-0006nh-JY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:09:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMSF-0005jp-8i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:08:27 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:59818) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMSF-0005jj-5H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:08:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMS9-0006EU-Ci for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:08:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMS4-0005hw-Gw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:08:17 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:58542) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBMS4-0005hs-At for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:08:12 -0400 Received: by weys10 with SMTP id s10so189332wey.0 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:08:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=D2+VnqhR5SBWN1IXnCI555OHkIKOSvsis93FJukSjG0=; b=GNhUDjckAuXkFolbPCjx8+wLmQ3PFMraF478TNAElwzvTeKIOAfT9RgNMrKXIqzBhU BZ2Pu6qRy6vz6Pk5I05TqUYwvI5m/zz2EJl/tJEoY83SQ8lUPJNSNMUg9xl1DMYWLw62 ugj8I5a9ZH1ktCCOtmlsMiNT80ETMxL3yTcv4BvMHamZ4MWY/1oRdCF4tDtcASMGKnm8 0NQL0fbEpSRGF+CBoMsZbDMysbKb1NGZqbzVroWZlkmEqZtr1X4BkCy8fuRKysjfFaMW M9keaeDYuo9F/aJ01EdyfRMljObE0BHeM+z9nb5W5f7zVhdEu94XCtGE3dkLLocALUMU +OMQ== Received: by 10.216.194.143 with SMTP id m15mr9862247wen.128.1347354491534; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhost.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t7sm2529109wix.6.2012.09.11.02.08.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B2E6F89A2; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:08:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:08:14 +0200 Message-ID: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) I ran `make distclean' three times. The first time it ran ./configure. The second time it didn't run ./configure. The third time it didn't run at all because of the absence of Makefile. Each time the lisp/*.elc files are left untouched/undeleted. I expected them to be deleted -- what am I doing wrong? Thanks, In GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2012-09-10 on myhost Bzr revision: 109965 cyd@gnu.org-20120910032510-vrblnwlfnsb0cx3s Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11201000 Important settings: value of $LANG: fr_FR.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t -- Bastien ------------=_1347380702-3710-1-- From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Bastien Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.13473832247736 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:08:01 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 17:07:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54933 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBTvU-00020j-Hx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:07:04 -0400 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:41350) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBTvS-00020J-DL for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:07:03 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MA7009003CETB00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:05:55 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MA7009B93HURT30@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:05:55 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:06:02 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83mx0wwkud.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Bastien > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:06:38 +0200 > Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org > > So what I'm looking for is `make maintainer-clean'. No, I think you are looking for "make bootstrap". From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Bastien Cc: Glenn Morris , Andreas Schwab , 12412@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.13473835958321 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:14:02 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 17:13:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54951 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBU1T-0002AA-Cr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:13:15 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:45724) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBU1R-00029z-AT for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:13:14 -0400 Received: by wgi16 with SMTP id 16so523183wgi.15 for <12412@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:12:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=qCii7wSfN1pqU3dnoRIR07VMbeaD7kdufhR/nKoGnNU=; b=evoYcgBYY2kV2rPMn/z87jNJ625SqDtV4BiX8nFJb2MbOAPFmbj/i8FrwEbkCzPgAt 97yw6sFOECE+pefnDN0UUHNjxf13YVuNrAfghPmm8Jx2u7HaOigIQJ7lkg0W4ty2N/ra Uu52a0P8gy3KQGzDQhwHi34W4HLs1klYQ3nyUU5uV92ihtzOkBaZtbaZaI5JBkAg4mit JLYzpulM/zWNX2dG1BhngYVzceb9GJ5SpoDAMMsimxiOuHaTtHqsZS4eel6yGgo4Lhor PDSco51QVKNrAs0XpRnlxu+ZNXGvqYm87IcvP2Gg7jUJU+n3ychwBl3S59MF5z6RNlG5 q5wA== Received: by 10.217.3.129 with SMTP id r1mr9937416wes.22.1347383551084; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:12:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.203.133 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:11:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87y5kgmt08.fsf@altern.org> References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> <87zk4wr8hv.fsf@altern.org> <87y5kgmt08.fsf@altern.org> From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:11:50 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Bastien wrote: > I guess this "you" is for Andreas, right? Because this is the exact > same impression I get from Andreas messages. > > I tried to ask something clearly, got extremely short answers, which > gives me the impression that I'm stupid. Being stupid, I don't want to > bother anyone with more than short sentences, and you get this kinda > silly "conversation". You could file a wishlist bug report, "Andreas' output hard to understand, please add --verbose option". Juanma From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Juanma Barranquero Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.134738556518199 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:47:01 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 17:46:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55052 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBUXE-0004jS-9S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:46:05 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]:47861) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBUXB-0004iy-1I for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:46:02 -0400 Received: by weyu54 with SMTP id u54so459483wey.3 for <12412@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:45:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=CkrMbHS7lDuWwuGdLRZv6TlgnhCAcutUOh8G2G0vRPc=; b=UcYY7Hzgaof5YSlfsgfOgsbasRNytOiKFXJ5MU5mPfIZtVnZsBTNu6iU5RumsQg+tn jQu4Zni2PxUcdgelsq8QaeCmEzQlRdB9b2eJUyIdleS2sun83GFU4o0/6IpzZwzgoeVv 7Vq/uMjrybB80NRVulu1FTR84JLdnLriiEpMTbGshqo7Zh7ivgYmU4GdcbH065ngeYmU L79zkm6V9nNrpC0wAXS9PTqmb4lRNiyI/ENULrbP3ixa0Bt5KmD1QI+j1QWOjo3BWsEv sHtJNEXMNApXUl9TpCZA9lybWMZr5ZRSVl+nQWR59miGwZmHVV2ToDnS8rMMnLhHGGuu K2Ug== Received: by 10.216.139.145 with SMTP id c17mr10234095wej.175.1347385519033; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhost.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bc2sm5436248wib.0.2012.09.11.10.45.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CC30689A2; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:45:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:11:50 +0200") References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> <87zk4wr8hv.fsf@altern.org> <87y5kgmt08.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:45:20 +0200 Message-ID: <871ui8ihcf.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Juanma Barranquero writes: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Bastien wrote: > >> I guess this "you" is for Andreas, right? Because this is the exact >> same impression I get from Andreas messages. >> >> I tried to ask something clearly, got extremely short answers, which >> gives me the impression that I'm stupid. Being stupid, I don't want to >> bother anyone with more than short sentences, and you get this kinda >> silly "conversation". > > You could file a wishlist bug report, "Andreas' output hard to > understand, please add --verbose option". :) That said, trying to turn --verbose off is fun from time to time. -- Bastien From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.134738566618345 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 17:47:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55056 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBUYr-0004lp-Us for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:47:46 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com ([209.85.212.174]:57024) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBUYq-0004lg-1P for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:47:45 -0400 Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so3231927wib.15 for <12412@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:47:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=9YJro41/4aN2doczsxKKKZmSE3BIqpLunNd0a/4rKLA=; b=mNnC+NdPyCFUZUzgp8pS4MU7i0r4e9l5RhiQ9CAlaL0BR8y92vkKADbnpbl6Vx+QoA ynzKIo59EqDKUKpX4sHTSDwRq3vedup3ZILhU7HkzEJFqSZRG6NxhRXEXLJ048gKkN5I km9JfWyWpw3RnBjj3AWBXAleuMP1X8pruB+RNy8K+TEVcGjRbl3noNy2Xs7Xof0onBy5 6rZjnW/dJEuAp3DDYlMtRWdaJCCbvVqa1htdjP+F4Ow1nmV1jauRBJnABIjajgGwm7y7 rvaqe/Qe5k4VHfOwHuxMPEZQLQMyYItSWNDwhl9+suKGvO7pnq4YBWMvrzX1aSG9sZbm RmRw== Received: by 10.180.103.4 with SMTP id fs4mr26648884wib.16.1347385621647; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhost.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l6sm3561104wiz.4.2012.09.11.10.47.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 43CDF89A2; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:47:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: <83mx0wwkud.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:06:02 +0300") References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> <83mx0wwkud.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:47:02 +0200 Message-ID: <87wr00h2p5.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Bastien >> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:06:38 +0200 >> Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> So what I'm looking for is `make maintainer-clean'. > > No, I think you are looking for "make bootstrap". I'm really trying to get rid of the .elc files produced by compiling Emacs from a fresh bzr update (not a distribution.) -- Bastien From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Bastien Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.134738567918368 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:48:02 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 17:47:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55059 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBUZ5-0004mD-67 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:47:59 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:62360) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBUZ3-0004m7-PE for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:47:58 -0400 Received: by wgi16 with SMTP id 16so546922wgi.15 for <12412@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:47:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=mF71RQz7SEp0/mMOEq3KYRLeUSMcczbzwEvs54s0aUs=; b=IvUoCsh3W8azbapSJP/9j/k01Eb60BwU+m/n4LCRIecKcY2qjbNx+gtKDLGBTdUYTk AZD5w+OvoyWb5M1IQgWwQvC2wWiUTCDfs1dpl+rWxgakIUjldfzFocc4q0hw3Z20WkHf j2W5sNkHKMc96HfiD93WBSaFgoie2ILnaRaL9EuueM1scxxeBdFo0CzvcoMBuj/iIjIE h574xN6TGP8n3juhDQvdHLTsu2+QXE6SBP9jmTlVlNS6c9eSs8tDcKuJvLihXN+qkyPV dKkn9lNj0pkv3v0wncBsfn1IjuN0+JLqQ0POTLbTXkkt0yJSOHwAZS3vu+bRXTHt7O+C giNw== Received: by 10.180.24.4 with SMTP id q4mr26635679wif.19.1347385635575; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:47:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.203.133 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:46:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <871ui8ihcf.fsf@altern.org> References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> <87zk4wr8hv.fsf@altern.org> <87y5kgmt08.fsf@altern.org> <871ui8ihcf.fsf@altern.org> From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:46:35 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Bastien wrote: > That said, trying to turn --verbose off is fun from time to time. Yep. Juanma From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Juanma Barranquero Cc: Bastien , Andreas Schwab , 12412@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.134738704323679 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 18:10:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55093 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBUv2-00069q-NK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:10:42 -0400 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:39916) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBUv0-00069g-3c for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:10:39 -0400 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8BI9kL3016171; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:09:46 -0400 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C89D5B4085; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:09:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> <87zk4wr8hv.fsf@altern.org> <87y5kgmt08.fsf@altern.org> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:09:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:11:50 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) > You could file a wishlist bug report, "Andreas' output hard to > understand, please add --verbose option". I think this would need to be send to Andreas's bug tracker, because it's not specific to Emacs's use of Andreas. BTW, I think it's an appropriate moment to mention that while I do get occasionally frustrated with some people here (Andreas's one liners and Drew's many liners come to mind), I really do appreciate all your contributions. Stefan From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Bastien Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.134738756924484 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:20:01 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 18:19:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55101 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBV3Y-0006Mr-Sw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:19:29 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:37581) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBV3W-0006Mh-Fi for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:19:27 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MA700H006RJ1J00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:17:52 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MA700G8E6TSVM50@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:17:52 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:18:01 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87wr00h2p5.fsf@altern.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83ipbkwhie.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> <83mx0wwkud.fsf@gnu.org> <87wr00h2p5.fsf@altern.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Bastien > Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:47:02 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Bastien > >> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:06:38 +0200 > >> Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org > >> > >> So what I'm looking for is `make maintainer-clean'. > > > > No, I think you are looking for "make bootstrap". > > I'm really trying to get rid of the .elc files produced by > compiling Emacs from a fresh bzr update (not a distribution.) You mean, delete them, but not re-create them? Why would you need a tree without *.elc files? From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.134738851625881 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:36:01 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 18:35:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55111 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBVIq-0006jO-AO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:35:16 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com ([209.85.212.174]:39540) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBVIo-0006jG-5s for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:35:15 -0400 Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14so3280350wib.15 for <12412@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:34:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=mqsbxQjIXt26hDqoFkYRLvqcauIrBRn2CHfFPReHJZI=; b=G+RBBdxmMyL6Asxr5uRa7s579UPLe6KGyJJU0cRl0NahA5NqliI92VXVq+IjG0BqWe XSNBEI72JSrFqns8cGoMthqtarWYEEtkhVn749US2ClryD3XOYTcQ8MTxrdFgH19At/X UxfLtgMCKLeix5DD2o3qJ28KcY9NtLs64GSxt9eAizdsv4F8d+WOyisKYHv72aHi6XXm y+t7lbn0XS3COCr5mF4Ly3XT1zsSdL24ihjw8xyI32pluLWlPxdIy8NNg41MkEF5C/eD uBcwK+kZRxY4DfC4LRBfPH0FfYTq87RCnYXj34+SfHIbBxtuObDXLVqLY31Fwq2qAn6V NFcg== Received: by 10.180.106.137 with SMTP id gu9mr26881585wib.20.1347388471870; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhost.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm5689763wiz.7.2012.09.11.11.34.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 973BF89A2; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:34:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: <83ipbkwhie.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:18:01 +0300") References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> <83mx0wwkud.fsf@gnu.org> <87wr00h2p5.fsf@altern.org> <83ipbkwhie.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:34:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87k3w0h0i1.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Eli Zaretskii writes: > You mean, delete them, but not re-create them? Why would you need a > tree without *.elc files? When editing a .el file from the bzr branch, I sometimes byte-compile it to check compilation warnings. Since I prefer to keep the .el file in sync with the .elc file, I delete the newly created .elc file by hand. So in general, I prefer to work in a directory with no .elc file. But removing by hand is okay. -- Bastien From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Bastien Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , schwab@linux-m68k.org Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.13473955664094 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:33:02 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 20:32:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55232 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBX8Y-00013z-LU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:32:46 -0400 Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:44651) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBX8V-00013m-Cw for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:32:45 -0400 Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8BKVu06002731; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:31:56 -0400 Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 12DDFB4085; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:31:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> <83mx0wwkud.fsf@gnu.org> <87wr00h2p5.fsf@altern.org> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:31:55 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wr00h2p5.fsf@altern.org> (Bastien's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:47:02 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) >> No, I think you are looking for "make bootstrap". > I'm really trying to get rid of the .elc files produced by > compiling Emacs from a fresh bzr update (not a distribution.) I think you want "bootstrap-clean", then: bootstrap is basically "make bootstrap-clean; make". Stefan From unknown Fri Aug 15 17:22:18 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12412: 24.2.50; `make distclean' does not remove .elc files Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12412 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 12412@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org Received: via spool by 12412-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12412.13473959574794 (code B ref 12412); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:40:02 +0000 Received: (at 12412) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 20:39:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55245 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBXEq-0001FG-PG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:39:17 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com ([209.85.212.180]:43426) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBXEn-0001F8-GC for 12412@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:39:14 -0400 Received: by wibhm6 with SMTP id hm6so925434wib.15 for <12412@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:38:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=TVItNKmLARF5dtS2y4v7HdA2XGet8eupnOxgxygSYHM=; b=oiFQVNkJSA0SiYmwByrjLu9d+u9jwNgdz/E/9BQXFCO7oewv9ac/NmITvpZ+RTDtCv NzXTh3IDjthoayNSnjDuIu6xhXXtSg00w6TPk9MA9Vz89GU/pZxRuzYcAvMuwPEwDnus zj4GMBqOtLkxgJEXmdSZ99lRE+eJrTGSIi6kk8mvB3h5jmjf3ROMLvw/gMABFtantjwS IoGGoOcnjNEViLfYakn5e87IxuXe79LJga4MUMLce0p7JloQBkfQJotGQF7W7TZryOD+ TW7ieCzBu83eYjWSyEK+ju+4RBijF6egmsoi39Skw/KpBlKQ8Cvmg57hFvR5DJpunItJ X8lA== Received: by 10.180.106.130 with SMTP id gu2mr27502910wib.20.1347395910774; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhost.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t8sm4234613wiy.3.2012.09.11.13.38.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 58A3E89A2; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:38:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:31:55 -0400") References: <87d31tlyf5.fsf@altern.org> <87har43fml.fsf@altern.org> <878vcg3e01.fsf@altern.org> <83mx0wwkud.fsf@gnu.org> <87wr00h2p5.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:38:31 +0200 Message-ID: <87liggfg6w.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Stefan Monnier writes: >>> No, I think you are looking for "make bootstrap". >> I'm really trying to get rid of the .elc files produced by >> compiling Emacs from a fresh bzr update (not a distribution.) > > I think you want "bootstrap-clean", then: bootstrap is basically "make > bootstrap-clean; make". Yes, that does it, thanks! -- Bastien