From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12380: other window related commands broken Resent-From: Doug Morgan Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 12380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12380@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.134704763730494 (code B ref -1); Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:54:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2012 19:53:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47173 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TA4cm-0007vl-Mx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:53:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58470) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TA3lU-0006ek-37 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:58:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TA3lA-0003z9-1x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:58:32 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:49845) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TA3l9-0003z5-Ut for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:58:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42263) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TA3l8-0003Rq-Tv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:58:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TA3l8-0003yg-20 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:58:30 -0400 Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.70]:43481) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TA3l7-0003yO-OF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:58:29 -0400 Received: from [76.21.104.63] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TA3l5-00066g-Sq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:58:28 -0400 Message-ID: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 11:58:26 -0700 From: Doug Morgan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: f1ad82a4556da985904be2c59b54ee5a9ef193a6bfc3dd4808dbb195b3d0befe65cd7cab2498b22d92764449e275203c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.21.104.63 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:53:55 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) emac version: 24.2.1 cygwin Vista Edit a file C-x 2 (OK, now you have a two windows split horizontally) C-x C-b One of the windows **splits vertically**(!!) to show the buffer menu. Older versions of emacs (I don't know how far back you have to go) use the "other" window of the two horizontally split window to display the menu. The old way is by far the better way. The same thing happens with C-x 4 C-f and I think other C-x 4 commands. All make for annoying work cleaning up your windows after the unwanted vertical splits happen. Doug From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12380: other window related commands broken Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Doug Morgan Cc: 12380@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12380-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12380.1347049590936 (code B ref 12380); Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 12380) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2012 20:26:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47209 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TA58I-0000F3-8V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:26:30 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:35492) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TA58G-0000Ew-59 for 12380@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:26:29 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 07 Sep 2012 20:26:07 -0000 Received: from 62-47-42-86.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.42.86]) [62.47.42.86] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 07 Sep 2012 22:26:07 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/dhuZwCmfdqiwWKeZtT4Rl9ql9HezUVZ9SBC7h7+ 0QqeXwj8QkUa9o Message-ID: <504A5866.9010009@gmx.at> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 22:26:14 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> In-Reply-To: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > Edit a file > C-x 2 > (OK, now you have a two windows split horizontally) > C-x C-b > One of the windows **splits vertically**(!!) to show the buffer menu. With emacs -Q here the lower window is used. > Older versions of emacs (I don't know how far back you have to go) use > the "other" window of the two horizontally split window to display the > menu. The old way is by far the better way. The same thing happens > with C-x 4 C-f and I think other C-x 4 commands. All make for annoying > work cleaning up your windows after the unwanted vertical splits happen. Please test with emacs -Q and from the Help menu use the entry "How to Report a Bug" in order to provide the necessary information. Thanks, martin From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12380: other window related commands broken Resent-From: Doug Morgan Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 22:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 12380@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, 12380@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.134705623814046 (code B ref -1); Fri, 07 Sep 2012 22:18:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2012 22:17:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47306 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TA6rV-0003eV-Pq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:17:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44665) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TA6rU-0003eO-Br for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:17:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TA6r9-0003P9-Cl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:16:56 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:50461) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TA6r9-0003P5-9z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:16:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57313) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TA6r8-0008R1-8Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:16:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TA6r7-0003O3-4L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:16:54 -0400 Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.70]:38844) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TA6r6-0003Lu-VF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:16:53 -0400 Received: from [76.21.104.63] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TA6r2-0006D9-73; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:16:48 -0400 Message-ID: <504A724B.3020202@sprynet.com> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:16:43 -0700 From: Doug Morgan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> <504A5866.9010009@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: <504A5866.9010009@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: f1ad82a4556da985904be2c59b54ee5a9ef193a6bfc3dd48476eef6429ae3caec7bd95fc712cabcf3ae9702e2e88ebc7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.21.104.63 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) I had only tested it with "emacs -q" (forgot about the Q version). However, retesting with "emacs -Q" gives the same behavior. Also, the menu only has "Send Bug Report..." which doesn't work for me "Wrong type argument: string, nil" after I enter a subject title (never having set up emacs to handle mail). Inside the unsent email buffer was this interesting looking text (and it looked like it would go to bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org so I'm cc'ing that: In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, GTK+ Version 2.24.11) of 2012-08-27 on fiona Windowing system distributor `The Cygwin/X Project', version 11.0.11204000 Configured using: `configure '--srcdir=/home/kbrown/src/cygemacs/emacs-24.2-1/src/emacs-24.2' '--prefix=/usr' '--exec-prefix=/usr' '--bindir=/usr/bin' '--sbindir=/usr/sbin' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--localstatedir=/var' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--datarootdir=/usr/share' '--docdir=/usr/share/doc/emacs' '-C' '--without-gsettings' '--without-gconf' 'CC=gcc' 'CFLAGS=-ggdb -O2 -pipe -fdebug-prefix-map=/home/kbrown/src/cygemacs/emacs-24.2-1/build=/usr/src/debug/emacs-24.2-1 -fdebug-prefix-map=/home/kbrown/src/cygemacs/emacs-24.2-1/src/emacs-24.2=/usr/src/debug/emacs-24.2-1' 'LDFLAGS=-L/usr/lib/ncursesw' 'LIBS=' 'CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/include/ncursesw'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Dired by name Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Doug On 9/7/2012 1:26 PM, martin rudalics wrote: >> Edit a file >> C-x 2 >> (OK, now you have a two windows split horizontally) >> C-x C-b >> One of the windows **splits vertically**(!!) to show the buffer menu. > > With emacs -Q here the lower window is used. > >> Older versions of emacs (I don't know how far back you have to go) >> use the "other" window of the two horizontally split window to >> display the menu. The old way is by far the better way. The same >> thing happens with C-x 4 C-f and I think other C-x 4 commands. All >> make for annoying work cleaning up your windows after the unwanted >> vertical splits happen. > > Please test with emacs -Q and from the Help menu use the entry > "How to Report a Bug" in order to provide the necessary information. > > Thanks, martin > > From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12380: other window related commands broken Resent-From: Ken Brown Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 01:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Doug Morgan Cc: martin rudalics , 12380@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12380-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12380.134706606728742 (code B ref 12380); Sat, 08 Sep 2012 01:02:01 +0000 Received: (at 12380) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2012 01:01:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47437 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TA9Q2-0007TW-GQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:01:06 -0400 Received: from limestone5.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.165]:52744) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TA9Py-0007TE-He for 12380@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:01:04 -0400 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from orchid.mail.cornell.edu (orchid.mail.cornell.edu [132.236.56.61]) by limestone5.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8810dPs028752 for <12380@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite2.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.142]) by orchid.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8810es0006169; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:00:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (cpe-67-249-194-47.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.194.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q8810cxC027018 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:00:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <504A98B2.5080105@cornell.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:00:34 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> <504A5866.9010009@gmx.at> <504A724B.3020202@sprynet.com> In-Reply-To: <504A724B.3020202@sprynet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-CORNELL-SPAM-CHECKED: Pawpaw X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.9.8.4816 X-Original-Sender: kbrown@cornell.edu - Fri Sep 7 21:00:39 2012 X-PMX-CORNELL-REASON: CU_White_List_Override X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) On 9/7/2012 6:16 PM, Doug Morgan wrote: > On 9/7/2012 1:26 PM, martin rudalics wrote: >>> Edit a file >>> C-x 2 >>> (OK, now you have a two windows split horizontally) >>> C-x C-b >>> One of the windows **splits vertically**(!!) to show the buffer menu. >> >> With emacs -Q here the lower window is used. > In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, GTK+ Version 2.24.11) > of 2012-08-27 on fiona I'm using the same Cygwin build as you, but I can't reproduce the problem. I get the same results as Martin. Are you sure you haven't left anything out of your recipe? Ken From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12380: other window related commands broken Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 08:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Doug Morgan Cc: 12380@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, 12380@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13470923495537 (code B ref -1); Sat, 08 Sep 2012 08:20:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2012 08:19:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47759 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TAGFw-0001RG-85 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:19:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59961) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TAGFu-0001R9-Li for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:19:07 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAGFX-0007Vo-Be for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:18:44 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:48094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAGFX-0007Vk-8F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:18:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAGFV-0005Db-SR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:18:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAGFU-0007VF-Vc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:18:41 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:41434) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAGFU-0007V5-Kf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:18:40 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 08 Sep 2012 08:18:39 -0000 Received: from 62-47-48-244.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.48.244]) [62.47.48.244] by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 08 Sep 2012 10:18:39 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/3bHFDCnr3sKJgfG96Kj+gc3OSBYAuPdEeGydrkb MvVtCMNcGROk81 Message-ID: <504AFF67.7070600@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 10:18:47 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> <504A5866.9010009@gmx.at> <504A724B.3020202@sprynet.com> In-Reply-To: <504A724B.3020202@sprynet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) > I had only tested it with "emacs -q" (forgot about the Q version). > However, retesting with "emacs -Q" gives the same behavior. Interesting. > Also, the > menu only has "Send Bug Report..." which doesn't work for me "Wrong type > argument: string, nil" after I enter a subject title (never having set > up emacs to handle mail). This should not happen. Can you get us a backtrace by checking the "Enter Debugger on Error" entry in the Options menu before trying the "Send Bug Report...". (My apologies if this has been reported before and already fixed.) > Inside the unsent email buffer was this interesting looking text (and it > looked like it would go to bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org so I'm cc'ing that: Tha's what we need ;-) > In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, GTK+ Version 2.24.11) > of 2012-08-27 on fiona I suppose the following > Major mode: Dired by name is not part of the recipe? Anyway, back to your first report. Does >> One of the windows **splits vertically**(!!) mean that the new window appears on the right of another window or below it? Also please tell us which window was split - the upper one or the lower one. If the new window appears below, then in the window that gets split please do (before the split): M-: (window-total-height) RET and C-h v split-height-threshold If the new window appears on the right, please do M-: (window-total-width) RET and C-h v split-width-threshold instead. In either case, tell us what gets printed by these. Thanks, martin From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12380: other window related commands broken Resent-From: Doug Morgan Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 12380@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, 12380@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13471545239678 (code B ref -1); Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:36:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2012 01:35:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49293 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TAWQj-0002W1-NR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:35:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40800) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TAWQh-0002Vu-IF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:35:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAWQF-0004GD-Fr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:34:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:53925) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAWQF-0004G8-CR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:34:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57425) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAWQD-00007e-Ia for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:34:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAWQB-0004Fx-GX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:34:49 -0400 Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.68]:40225) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAWQB-0004Fq-A8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:34:47 -0400 Received: from [76.21.104.63] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TAWQ7-0001Gl-DM; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 21:34:43 -0400 Message-ID: <504BF230.1000805@sprynet.com> Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:34:40 -0700 From: Doug Morgan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> <504A5866.9010009@gmx.at> <504A724B.3020202@sprynet.com> <504AFF67.7070600@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: <504AFF67.7070600@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: f1ad82a4556da985904be2c59b54ee5a9ef193a6bfc3dd489fdc0e49cd11e0dec8755b8572c990c5a8438e0f32a48e08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.21.104.63 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) First, here is what the debugger says when I try to "Send Bug Report:..." Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) file-name-directory(nil) byte-code("\300\301\302\303\304!!\"\305BC\207" [format "hides \\(%s.*\\)" file-name-directory locate-library "simple.el" (1 font-lock-warning-face)] 5) (defvar load-path-shadows-font-lock-keywords (byte-code "\300\301\302\303\304!!\"\305BC\207" [format "hides \\(%s.*\\)" file-name-directory locate-library "simple.el" (1 font-lock-warning-face)] 5) ("/usr/share/emacs/24.2/lisp/emacs-lisp/shadow.elc" . 3268)) list-load-path-shadows(t) report-emacs-bug("other window splitting again" [24 50 24 2 (help-echo # "mouse-1, mouse-2: sort by size" # #(" CRM Buffer Size Mode File\n" 0 1 (display (space :align-to 0)) 1 4 (face fixed-pitch) 4 5 (display (space :align-to 4)) 5 11 (keymap (keymap (13 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column) (follow-link . mouse-face) (mouse-2 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column) (header-line keymap (mouse-2 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column) (mouse-1 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column))) mouse-face highlight help-echo "mouse-1, mouse-2: sort by buffer" column 2) 11 27 (display (space :align-to 26)) 27 31 (column 3 help-echo "mouse-1, mouse-2: sort by size" mouse-face highlight keymap (keymap (13 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column) (follow-link . mouse-face) (mouse-2 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column) (header-line keymap (mouse-2 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column) (mouse-1 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column)))) 31 33 (display (space :align-to 32)) 33 37 (keymap (keymap (13 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column) (follow-link . mouse-face) (mouse-2 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column) (header-line keymap (mouse-2 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column) (mouse-1 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column))) mouse-face highlight help-echo "mouse-1, mouse-2: sort by mode" column 4) 37 51 (display (space :align-to 50)) 51 55 (keymap (keymap (13 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column) (follow-link . mouse-face) (mouse-2 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column) (header-line keymap (mouse-2 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column) (mouse-1 . Buffer-menu-sort-by-column))) mouse-face highlight help-echo "mouse-1, mouse-2: sort by file" column 5) 55 56 (display (space :align-to 55))) 28) (help-echo # "Major mode\nmouse-1: Display major mode menu\nmouse-2: Show help for major mode\nmouse-3: Toggle minor modes" # #("Buffer Menu" 0 11 (local-map (keymap (mode-line keymap (down-mouse-3 keymap (abbrev-mode menu-item "Abbrev (Abbrev)" abbrev-mode :help "Automatically expand abbreviations" :button ...) (auto-fill-mode menu-item "Auto fill (Fill)" auto-fill-mode :help "Automatically insert new lines" :button ...) (auto-revert-mode menu-item "Auto revert (ARev)" auto-revert-mode :help "Revert the buffer when the file on disk changes" :button ...) (auto-revert-tail-mode menu-item "Auto revert tail (Tail)" auto-revert-tail-mode :help "Revert the tail of the buffer when buffer grows" :enable ... :button ...) (flyspell-mode menu-item "Flyspell (Fly)" flyspell-mode :help "Spell checking on the fly" :button ...) (font-lock-mode menu-item "Font Lock" font-lock-mode :help "Syntax coloring" :button ...) (glasses-mode menu-item "Glasses (o^o)" glasses-mode :help "Insert virtual separators to make long identifiers easy to read" :button ...) (hide-ifdef-mode menu-item "Hide ifdef (Ifdef)" hide-ifdef-mode :help "Show/Hide code within #ifdef constructs" :button ...) (highlight-changes-mode menu-item "Highlight changes (Chg)" highlight-changes-mode :help "Show changes in the buffer in a distinctive color" :button ...) (outline-minor-mode menu-item "Outline (Outl)" outline-minor-mode :help "" :button ...) (overwrite-mode menu-item "Overwrite (Ovwrt)" overwrite-mode :help "Overwrite mode: typed characters replace existing text" :button ...) "Minor Modes") (mouse-2 . describe-mode) (down-mouse-1 menu-item "Menu Bar" ignore :filter (lambda ... ...)))) mouse-face mode-line-highlight help-echo "Major mode\nmouse-1: Display major mode menu\nmouse-2: Show help for major mode\nmouse-3: Toggle minor modes")) 9) (help-echo # "mouse-1: Select (drag to resize)\nmouse-2: Make current window occupy the whole frame\nmouse-3: Remove current window from display" # #(" " 0 3 (help-echo "mouse-1: Select (drag to resize)\nmouse-2: Make current window occupy the whole frame\nmouse-3: Remove current window from display")) 0) (help-echo # "Buffer name\nmouse-1: previous buffer\nmouse-3: next buffer" # #("%12b" 0 4 (local-map (keymap (header-line keymap (mouse-3 . mode-line-next-buffer) (down-mouse-3 . ignore) (mouse-1 . mode-line-previous-buffer) (down-mouse-1 . ignore)) (mode-line keymap (mouse-3 . mode-line-next-buffer) (mouse-1 . mode-line-previous-buffer))) mouse-face mode-line-highlight help-echo "Buffer name\nmouse-1: previous buffer\nmouse-3: next buffer" face mode-line-buffer-id)) 1) (help-echo # "Read a directory, to operate on its files" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Make text in active region stand out in color (Transient Mark mode)" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Highlight matching/mismatched parentheses at cursor (Show Paren mode)" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Automatically fill text while typing (Auto Fill mode)" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Ignore letter-case in search commands" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Use C-z/C-x/C-c/C-v keys for undo/cut/copy/paste" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Uniquify buffer names by adding parent directory names" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Visit files of previous session when restarting Emacs" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Uniquify buffer names by adding parent directory names" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Use C-z/C-x/C-c/C-v keys for undo/cut/copy/paste" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Ignore letter-case in search commands" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Use C-z/C-x/C-c/C-v keys for undo/cut/copy/paste" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Uniquify buffer names by adding parent directory names" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Visit files of previous session when restarting Emacs" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Whether the cursor blinks (Blink Cursor mode)" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Enter Lisp debugger when an error is signaled" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Enter Lisp debugger when C-g is pressed" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Enter Lisp debugger when an error is signaled" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Whether the cursor blinks (Blink Cursor mode)" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Visit files of previous session when restarting Emacs" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Whether the cursor blinks (Blink Cursor mode)" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Enter Lisp debugger when an error is signaled" nil nil 0) (menu-bar) options debug-on-error (help-echo # "Cut (kill) text in region between mark and current position" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Learn how to use Emacs" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Learn how to use Emacs (choose a language)" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Frequently asked (and answered) questions about Emacs" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "New features of this version" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Read about known problems with Emacs" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Send e-mail to Emacs maintainers" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Our doctor will help you feel better" nil nil 0) (help-echo # "Send e-mail to Emacs maintainers" nil nil 0) (menu-bar) help-menu send-emacs-bug-report]) call-interactively(report-emacs-bug nil nil) It's in a window named *Backtrace* so I hope that is the backtrace you want. I almost thought I was going crazy, I could not reproduce the problem. Then I found the missing trick is to widen the entire emacs window. Then I read your email more carefully and checked that split_window_threshold was 160 and that it was changed/introduced in 23.1 (which is about when I first started noticing the problem but figured I'd wait for an new version before reporting it - long suffering is my middle name). I did exactly flip my usage of vertical and horizontal splitting from the emacs usage of the term. I should have said "One of the windows **splits horizontally**(!!) ". In any case the bad split is into two side-by-side windows. The to-my-taste poor splitting happens when (window-total-width) >= 164. The problem is fixed by setting split-width-threshold to 500. Thank you! I did try setting it to nil as the variable's documentation suggests and the customization dialog told me the value of the variable needed to be an integer. Don't know if it accepted nil anyway or rejected it or what, but 500 sure works. Thanks again. I do think split-width-threshold should default to never splitting horizontally (I've got the right word this time), but that's just decades of never have wide windows automatically split horizontally talking. Maybe it will seem perfectly natural to someone not shocked to see it. On second thought, I wouldn't so much mind emacs splitting a window horizontally when I just have one window visible at the time. That might actually be nice. However, when I already have my screen split in two, but vertically, I think it's a bad idea without redeeming qualities to split one of the windows horizontally instead of just jumping to the "other" already open window. So, I'm changing my bug report to say that emacs should never automatically introduce any new split for M-x M-b (and similar commands) when it already has two or more open windows (regardless of how they are arranged). The problem is just a bit deeper than simply changing the value of split-width-threshold. Doug On 9/8/2012 1:18 AM, martin rudalics wrote: > > I had only tested it with "emacs -q" (forgot about the Q version). > > However, retesting with "emacs -Q" gives the same behavior. > > Interesting. > > > Also, the > > menu only has "Send Bug Report..." which doesn't work for me "Wrong > type > > argument: string, nil" after I enter a subject title (never having set > > up emacs to handle mail). > > This should not happen. Can you get us a backtrace by checking the > "Enter Debugger on Error" entry in the Options menu before trying the > "Send Bug Report...". (My apologies if this has been reported before > and already fixed.) > > > Inside the unsent email buffer was this interesting looking text > (and it > > looked like it would go to bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org so I'm cc'ing that: > > Tha's what we need ;-) > > > In GNU Emacs 24.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, GTK+ Version 2.24.11) > > of 2012-08-27 on fiona > > I suppose the following > > > Major mode: Dired by name > > is not part of the recipe? Anyway, back to your first report. Does > > >> One of the windows **splits vertically**(!!) > > mean that the new window appears on the right of another window or below > it? Also please tell us which window was split - the upper one or the > lower one. If the new window appears below, then in the window that > gets split please do (before the split): > > M-: (window-total-height) RET > > and > > C-h v split-height-threshold > > If the new window appears on the right, please do > > M-: (window-total-width) RET > > and > > C-h v split-width-threshold > > instead. In either case, tell us what gets printed by these. > > Thanks, martin > From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12380: other window related commands broken Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 10:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Doug Morgan Cc: 12380@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, 12380@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.134718516831128 (code B ref -1); Sun, 09 Sep 2012 10:07:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2012 10:06:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49630 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TAeP2-000861-CG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:06:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44996) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TAeP0-00085u-Bb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:06:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAeOW-0003Ip-PI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:05:37 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:50277) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAeOW-0003Ik-Du for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:05:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAeOV-0007uC-6F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:05:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAeOU-0003I7-3U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:05:35 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]:33235) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAeOT-0003Hv-Pp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 06:05:34 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Sep 2012 10:05:31 -0000 Received: from 62-47-60-139.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.60.139]) [62.47.60.139] by mail.gmx.net (mp037) with SMTP; 09 Sep 2012 12:05:31 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Sgg55Bp+Swg2rhqOFES11gmlulOX4odls31c9sL /uKkRYa4pOPbSp Message-ID: <504C69FE.7000208@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 12:05:50 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> <504A5866.9010009@gmx.at> <504A724B.3020202@sprynet.com> <504AFF67.7070600@gmx.at> <504BF230.1000805@sprynet.com> In-Reply-To: <504BF230.1000805@sprynet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) > First, here is what the debugger says when I try to "Send Bug Report:..." > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) > file-name-directory(nil) > byte-code("\300\301\302\303\304!!\"\305BC\207" [format "hides > \\(%s.*\\)" file-name-directory locate-library "simple.el" (1 > font-lock-warning-face)] 5) I don't understand why it doesn't find this. Does evaluating (locate-library "simple.el") always fail on your system? If so, what is your value of the variable `load-path'? > I did exactly flip my usage of vertical and > horizontal splitting from the emacs usage of the term. I should have > said "One of the windows **splits horizontally**(!!) ". The terms vertically/horizontally have caused lots of confusion in the past and meanwhile should have been elided from all references to window splitting. > In any case the > bad split is into two side-by-side windows. The to-my-taste poor > splitting happens when (window-total-width) >= 164. I see. > The problem is fixed by setting split-width-threshold to 500. nil should be more intuitive. > I did try setting it to nil as the variable's documentation > suggests and the customization dialog told me the value of the variable > needed to be an integer. Don't know if it accepted nil anyway or > rejected it or what, but 500 sure works. Thanks again. In the dialog you are not allowed to insert nil in the field reserved for numbers. You should use the "Value Menu" button and select "nil" from the choices presented there. Please try again. > I do think split-width-threshold should default to never splitting > horizontally (I've got the right word this time), but that's just > decades of never have wide windows automatically split horizontally > talking. Maybe it will seem perfectly natural to someone not shocked to > see it. IIRC we made it an integer (albeit a large one) to make people notice that they can use it. I can't judge whether that was a good idea. > On second thought, I wouldn't so much mind emacs splitting a window > horizontally when I just have one window visible at the time. That > might actually be nice. However, when I already have my screen split in > two, but vertically, I think it's a bad idea without redeeming qualities > to split one of the windows horizontally instead of just jumping to the > "other" already open window. But that's why `split-width-threshold' is customizable. More experienced users can write their own `split-window-sensibly' substitutes which gives them lots of additional possibilites. > So, I'm changing my bug report to say that emacs should never > automatically introduce any new split for M-x M-b (and similar commands) > when it already has two or more open windows (regardless of how they are > arranged). The problem is just a bit deeper than simply changing the > value of split-width-threshold. Maybe someone has a good idea on how to improve this. martin From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12380: other window related commands broken Resent-From: Ken Brown Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 13:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: Doug Morgan , 12380@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12380-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12380.134719834020692 (code B ref 12380); Sun, 09 Sep 2012 13:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 12380) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2012 13:45:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49747 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TAhpU-0005Nh-DH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 09:45:40 -0400 Received: from limestone5.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.165]:49731) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TAhpS-0005NX-0L for 12380@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 09:45:39 -0400 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.143]) by limestone5.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q89Dj7Zw007056 for <12380@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:45:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite2.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.142]) by soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q89DjEYM016875; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (cpe-67-249-194-47.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.194.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q89Dj4IM024924 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:45:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <504C9D60.4000105@cornell.edu> Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 09:45:04 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> <504A5866.9010009@gmx.at> <504A724B.3020202@sprynet.com> <504AFF67.7070600@gmx.at> <504BF230.1000805@sprynet.com> <504C69FE.7000208@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: <504C69FE.7000208@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-CORNELL-SPAM-CHECKED: Pawpaw X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.9.9.133616 X-Original-Sender: kbrown@cornell.edu - Sun Sep 9 09:45:05 2012 X-PMX-CORNELL-REASON: CU_White_List_Override X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) On 9/9/2012 6:05 AM, martin rudalics wrote: > > First, here is what the debugger says when I try to "Send Bug > Report:..." > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) > > file-name-directory(nil) > > byte-code("\300\301\302\303\304!!\"\305BC\207" [format "hides > > \\(%s.*\\)" file-name-directory locate-library "simple.el" (1 > > font-lock-warning-face)] 5) > > I don't understand why it doesn't find this. Does evaluating > > (locate-library "simple.el") > > always fail on your system? If so, what is your value of the variable > `load-path'? Cygwin users who install the emacs package don't get the elisp sources; they have to install the emacs-el package for that. So if Doug hasn't installed emacs-el, then (locate-library "simple.el") will fail, whereas (locate-library "simple") will correctly give "/usr/share/emacs/24.2/lisp/simple.elc". Ken From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12380: other window related commands broken Resent-From: Doug Morgan Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 21:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 12380@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, 12380@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.134722558228118 (code B ref -1); Sun, 09 Sep 2012 21:20:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2012 21:19:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50722 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TAour-0007JT-UQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:19:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55699) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TAouq-0007JM-NU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:19:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAouK-0001Gw-Af for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:19:09 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:51796) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAouK-0001Gr-7M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:19:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60879) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAouJ-0001lx-Bt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:19:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAouI-0001Ge-BN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:19:07 -0400 Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65]:50617) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TAouI-0001GV-6z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:19:06 -0400 Received: from [76.21.104.63] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TAouF-0007nL-Q5; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:19:04 -0400 Message-ID: <504D07C6.3080400@sprynet.com> Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 14:19:02 -0700 From: Doug Morgan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> <504A5866.9010009@gmx.at> <504A724B.3020202@sprynet.com> <504AFF67.7070600@gmx.at> <504BF230.1000805@sprynet.com> <504C69FE.7000208@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: <504C69FE.7000208@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: f1ad82a4556da985904be2c59b54ee5a9ef193a6bfc3dd48acb8858a4225647f1673b035093753831e3821db987f1b31350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.21.104.63 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) On 9/9/2012 3:05 AM, martin rudalics wrote: > > First, here is what the debugger says when I try to "Send Bug > Report:..." > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil) > > file-name-directory(nil) > > byte-code("\300\301\302\303\304!!\"\305BC\207" [format "hides > > \\(%s.*\\)" file-name-directory locate-library "simple.el" (1 > > font-lock-warning-face)] 5) > > I don't understand why it doesn't find this. Does evaluating > > (locate-library "simple.el") > > always fail on your system? If so, what is your value of the variable > `load-path'? > Ken Brown explained this one. I haven't loaded the emacs-el cygwin package. > ... > > The problem is fixed by setting split-width-threshold to 500. > > nil should be more intuitive. > > > I did try setting it to nil as the variable's documentation > > suggests and the customization dialog told me the value of the variable > > needed to be an integer. Don't know if it accepted nil anyway or > > rejected it or what, but 500 sure works. Thanks again. > > In the dialog you are not allowed to insert nil in the field reserved > for numbers. You should use the "Value Menu" button and select "nil" > from the choices presented there. Please try again. Ah, that's how you use that customization buffer thingie. I've paid it and customizations as little attention as possible since they appeared (I said long-suffering, but maybe just unsufferably lazy). "Value Menu" indeed does the trick. > ... > martin > Doug From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12380: other window related commands broken Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ken Brown Cc: Doug Morgan , 12380@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12380-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12380.134726639123976 (code B ref 12380); Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:40:02 +0000 Received: (at 12380) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2012 08:39:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51260 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TAzX5-0006Ef-7K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 04:39:51 -0400 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:55169) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TAzX1-0006EV-M4 for 12380@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 04:39:48 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Sep 2012 08:39:12 -0000 Received: from 62-47-50-85.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.50.85]) [62.47.50.85] by mail.gmx.net (mp072) with SMTP; 10 Sep 2012 10:39:12 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18iowoSz5wiF2kmryG/U7PFpr8iWlw5IRAEF9kESR WvJI8Y8tVuVrJG Message-ID: <504DA737.4000902@gmx.at> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:39:19 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> <504A5866.9010009@gmx.at> <504A724B.3020202@sprynet.com> <504AFF67.7070600@gmx.at> <504BF230.1000805@sprynet.com> <504C69FE.7000208@gmx.at> <504C9D60.4000105@cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: <504C9D60.4000105@cornell.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > Cygwin users who install the emacs package don't get the elisp sources; > they have to install the emacs-el package for that. So if Doug hasn't > installed emacs-el, then (locate-library "simple.el") will fail, whereas > (locate-library "simple") will correctly give > "/usr/share/emacs/24.2/lisp/simple.elc". Thanks for the information. Apparently, Glenn has already installed a fix for this. Please try it. Thanks, martin From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12380: other window related commands broken Resent-From: Ken Brown Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: Glenn Morris , Doug Morgan , 12380@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12380-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12380.13472862613651 (code B ref 12380); Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:12:02 +0000 Received: (at 12380) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2012 14:11:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52261 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TB4hZ-0000wc-2j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:11:01 -0400 Received: from limestone4.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.164]:65033) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TB4hW-0000wR-PF for 12380@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:11:00 -0400 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.143]) by limestone4.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8AEAMtS002036; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:10:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite2.mail.cornell.edu [128.253.83.142]) by soapstone1.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8AEAMpn003549; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:10:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (cpe-67-249-194-47.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.194.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id q8AEAEv7020433 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <504DF4C5.9050601@cornell.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:10:13 -0400 From: Ken Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> <504A5866.9010009@gmx.at> <504A724B.3020202@sprynet.com> <504AFF67.7070600@gmx.at> <504BF230.1000805@sprynet.com> <504C69FE.7000208@gmx.at> <504C9D60.4000105@cornell.edu> <504DA737.4000902@gmx.at> In-Reply-To: <504DA737.4000902@gmx.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-CORNELL-SPAM-CHECKED: Pawpaw X-PMX-Version: 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.9.10.140329 X-Original-Sender: kbrown@cornell.edu - Mon Sep 10 10:10:15 2012 X-PMX-CORNELL-REASON: CU_White_List_Override X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) On 9/10/2012 4:39 AM, martin rudalics wrote: > > Cygwin users who install the emacs package don't get the elisp sources; > > they have to install the emacs-el package for that. So if Doug hasn't > > installed emacs-el, then (locate-library "simple.el") will fail, whereas > > (locate-library "simple") will correctly give > > "/usr/share/emacs/24.2/lisp/simple.elc". > > Thanks for the information. Apparently, Glenn has already installed a > fix for this. Please try it. With Glenn's patch, report-emacs-bug will work even if the elisp sources are not installed. Thanks, Glenn. Ken From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 11 03:18:36 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2012 07:18:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53509 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBKk0-0002cq-3J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 03:18:36 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:42824) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TBKjs-0002ca-O5; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 03:18:34 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TBKjE-0002et-0Q; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 03:17:48 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 12380-quiet@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12380: other window related commands broken References: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> <504A5866.9010009@gmx.at> <504A724B.3020202@sprynet.com> <504AFF67.7070600@gmx.at> <504BF230.1000805@sprynet.com> X-Spook: $400 million in gold bullion John Kerry supercomputer New X-Ran: V{5c<*I~p~x\5}WU>eRf"T~.)(_*Bd3(m%71\c9M~D:SUUT9Kc+zXCP4F/&<{COrz]Jl8s X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 03:17:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <504BF230.1000805@sprynet.com> (Doug Morgan's message of "Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:34:40 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -7.3 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.3 (-------) severity 12380 wishlist retitle 12380 more control over window splitting stop Doug Morgan wrote: > On second thought, I wouldn't so much mind emacs splitting a window > horizontally when I just have one window visible at the time. That > might actually be nice. However, when I already have my screen split > in two, but vertically, I think it's a bad idea without redeeming > qualities to split one of the windows horizontally instead of just > jumping to the "other" already open window. > > So, I'm changing my bug report to say that emacs should never > automatically introduce any new split for M-x M-b (and similar > commands) when it already has two or more open windows (regardless of > how they are arranged). The problem is just a bit deeper than simply > changing the value of split-width-threshold. From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12380: more control over window splitting Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Doug Morgan Cc: 12380@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12380-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12380.164474464723498 (code B ref 12380); Sun, 13 Feb 2022 09:31:02 +0000 Received: (at 12380) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2022 09:30:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36353 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nJBDS-00066d-LN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2022 04:30:47 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51450) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nJBDR-0005zH-13 for 12380@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Feb 2022 04:30:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=/4PDU0a4lGlJlKuLcQAw0ND/8nnQWPqqBexzW3C6DAg=; b=JtRmCPZVO6C+karCWdzMLK3nmn Bc7m2RRLJGYW0fvRc0xQZKDR9fBoCNuCgT3/Pi9cHS7w+anbnIpxke1eAwDR4N4/3GO4gL76wOt7u KxyGcNTbTcat3DMQF9SMVh0WG+trfA77POQdT62euTgssJSVyBfTEcAF2v/8KOT6Uq2Y=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nJBDI-0001Fm-JK; Sun, 13 Feb 2022 10:30:39 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> X-Now-Playing: Nils Petter =?UTF-8?Q?Molv=C3=A6r's?= _Solid Ether_: "Tragamar" Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2022 10:30:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> (Doug Morgan's message of "Fri, 07 Sep 2012 11:58:26 -0700") Message-ID: <87pmnrw1ty.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Doug Morgan writes: > emac version: 24.2.1 > cygwin > Vista > > Edit a file > C-x 2 > (OK, now you have a two windows split horizontally) > C-x C-b > One of the windows **splits vertically**(!!) to show the buffer menu. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Doug Morgan writes: > emac version: 24.2.1 > cygwin > Vista > > Edit a file > C-x 2 > (OK, now you have a two windows split horizontally) > C-x C-b > One of the windows **splits vertically**(!!) to show the buffer menu. > Older versions of emacs (I don't know how far back you have to go) use > the "other" window of the two horizontally split window to display the > menu. The old way is by far the better way. The same thing happens > with C-x 4 C-f and I think other C-x 4 commands. All make for annoying > work cleaning up your windows after the unwanted vertical splits > happen. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) 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Content preview: tags 12380 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 12380 + moreinfo quit From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:44:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12380: more control over window splitting Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 10:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12380 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Doug Morgan Cc: 12380@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12380-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12380.1647254105832 (code B ref 12380); Mon, 14 Mar 2022 10:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 12380) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2022 10:35:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44180 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nTi2a-0000DJ-OP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 06:35:05 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41320) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nTi2Z-0000CD-4E for 12380@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 06:35:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=2m6JVcCnXZWzAm0D3S0e4M/b2xT8DA34kR78kacc1CE=; b=K74E/sR2X5tsTL+a3EMLSeHd+E qPeTBrseCMURZfTBuXYNGuqqIZDhyUJENZUI3odcvPptzYNGm+3gx61rxizburbpS1Mn5OSe90NUy lVsUC72EH+EapolNu+ulCLa5mes0Ok6Pk7QLlkqqSZu57ktPOJ32//+cvxp1uPY+AQBc=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nTi2Q-0005SX-Nk; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 11:34:57 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <504A43D2.1010307@sprynet.com> <87pmnrw1ty.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Colored Music's _Individual Beauty_: "Love Season" Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 11:34:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87pmnrw1ty.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 13 Feb 2022 10:30:33 +0100") Message-ID: <87mthsyg8j.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Are you still seeing this issue in recent Emacs versions? More information was requested, but no response was given within a month, so I'm closing this bug report. If the problem still exists, please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Are you still seeing this issue in recent Emacs versions? More information was requested, but no response was given within a month, so I'm closing this bug report. 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