From unknown Mon Jun 16 23:49:52 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#12370 <12370@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#12370 <12370@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.2.50; Unconditionally inhibit startup echo area message Reply-To: bug#12370 <12370@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2025 06:49:52 +0000 retitle 12370 24.2.50; Unconditionally inhibit startup echo area message reassign 12370 emacs submitter 12370 Christopher Schmidt severity 12370 wishlist tag 12370 wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 06 09:24:38 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2012 13:24:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42620 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9c4T-0003Y0-NG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:24:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57714) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9c4R-0003Xu-Sg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:24:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9c4A-0007Ob-3V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:24:23 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:38551) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9c4A-0007OX-0H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:24:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:32919) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9c44-0008ND-9X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:24:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9c3y-0007Hk-3n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:24:12 -0400 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:55151 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9c3x-0007DV-R6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:24:06 -0400 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id D863420D4F; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:24:01 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1346937841; bh=HNaXTKHd9rRxacgEC/HeY8qDuvWVbbnpB9thnwyeQOE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Date; b=V0/L/+Pc/2rTA42Qy6K2oeL4hd4ZXzP68CCME55awLg0vjaGZF0AZhR9c27b1584E npqcIcFJo8X+cbNf7BfHhL6Ggnm6GwSauqMgQSPLWRZELTNE8ZWiHbRFC0EojX9GLz kJdLoJ87Idkw2tr+v9NveBmJD7lUlVhOIrOwCmI8= From: Christopher Schmidt To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.2.50; Unconditionally inhibit startup echo area message Message-ID: <87zk53z3mb@ch.ristopher.com> Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:24:01 +0100 (BST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) severity: wishlist inhibit-startup-echo-area-message is a weird variable. inhibit-startup-echo-area-message is a variable defined in `startup.el'. Documentation: Non-nil inhibits the initial startup echo area message. Setting this variable takes effect only if you do it with the customization buffer or if your `.emacs' file contains a line of this form: (setq inhibit-startup-echo-area-message "YOUR-USER-NAME") [...] Thus, someone else using a copy of your `.emacs' file will see the startup message unless he personally acts to inhibit it. IMO there should be another possible value option for inhibit-startup-echo-area-message - a non-nil, non-string value unconditionally inhibits the startup echo are message. Is this a reasonable request? If so, I'd love to prepare a patch. Christopher From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 06 09:41:21 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2012 13:41:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42632 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9cKf-0003vk-7a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:41:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57910) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9cKd-0003vb-Eb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:41:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9cKH-00056u-6Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:41:06 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:45853) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9cKH-00056p-3E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:40:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9cKB-00066P-Ei for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:40:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9cK1-0004xf-NL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:40:51 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:49106) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9cK1-0004wO-Gf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:40:41 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3XCNG01jP3z3hhmG for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:40:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: wSCKQbV09CmrKwV4Ptn56e+H3288W+dc3CDklC7Hdnw= Received: from igel.home (ppp-93-104-154-231.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.154.231]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3XCNFx5mSpzbbjJ for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:40:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 7E516CA2A2; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 15:40:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12370: 24.2.50; Unconditionally inhibit startup echo area message References: <87zk53z3mb@ch.ristopher.com> X-Yow: Yow! I want my nose in lights! Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:40:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87zk53z3mb@ch.ristopher.com> (Christopher Schmidt's message of "Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:24:01 +0100 (BST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Christopher Schmidt writes: > inhibit-startup-echo-area-message is a weird variable. This is by design. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 06 10:34:51 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2012 14:34:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44248 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9dAQ-0005Wa-Q4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:34:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35572) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9dAP-0005WS-3i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:34:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9dA8-0006L1-RP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:34:36 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:36057) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9dA8-0006Kx-Nk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:34:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43268) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9d9z-0003oR-DE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:34:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9d9u-0006IT-54 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:34:23 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:1861) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9d9u-0006IP-1Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:34:18 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09FpYew/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBVigLCzQSFBgNiEAFugmNJoMeA6MzgViDBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="197701854" Received: from 69-165-135-176.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.135.176]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 06 Sep 2012 10:34:17 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3FAC558B33; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 10:34:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12370: 24.2.50; Unconditionally inhibit startup echo area message Message-ID: References: <87zk53z3mb@ch.ristopher.com> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:34:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87zk53z3mb@ch.ristopher.com> (Christopher Schmidt's message of "Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:24:01 +0100 (BST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) > IMO there should be another possible value option for > inhibit-startup-echo-area-message - a non-nil, non-string value > unconditionally inhibits the startup echo are message. Why? Stefan PS: The main reason for the strangeness is that we want to make sure that the startup message is not disabled site-wide, which would prevent a new user from seeing it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 06 12:15:50 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2012 16:15:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44391 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9ekA-0000HB-E0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:15:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58193) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9ek7-0000H3-96 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:15:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9ejk-0006Ue-IN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:15:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:44255) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9ejk-0006UM-Fn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:15:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51752) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9eja-0004uX-Kx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:15:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9ejV-0006JL-Mk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:15:14 -0400 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:55208 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T9ejV-0006IJ-ER for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:15:09 -0400 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 7A90B20D4F; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 17:15:07 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1346948107; bh=BsnCLeuDFFE796UEFW0VABb7fafjonvhTeN//A8/j4Q=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Date; b=g99w2XvFkLPEs6mBM47f/NEO9WhEBt6urD8llRS97Ndr3nnAWGnZEolCyugBIn/ek wdWvjpGHfnc+cBKw7aiEHgbtaoCMtRi38iGnH5MCgAzv0qbNE3oDfRMkXWBBqyP0OZ cyqGJMn6BtVMnGub1x4jLYhMdsu423OrFQEiU7Zk= From: Christopher Schmidt To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12370: 24.2.50; Unconditionally inhibit startup echo area message In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:34:17 -0400") Message-ID: <87bohjb01k@ch.ristopher.com> References: <87zk53z3mb@ch.ristopher.com> Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 17:15:07 +0100 (BST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Stefan Monnier writes: >> IMO there should be another possible value option for >> inhibit-startup-echo-area-message - a non-nil, non-string value >> unconditionally inhibits the startup echo are message. > > Why? I would like to unconditionally remove the startup echo area message because I do not like noise and repetition. ATM I use this form: (defadvice display-startup-echo-area-message (around my-disable activate)) I do not like advising undocumented, internal functions. Off topic: I don't want to use inhibit-startup-echo-area-message via setq in my init.el because my init.el is just a bootstrapping stub that loads my real configuration files. This indirection is necessary for my autocompile implementation and initialisation structurization. Forms like (setq inhibit-startup-echo-area-message ...) do not belong in my user-init-file. I share the same Emacs configuration between multiple machines and user accounts. When setting up a new environment, I would like to clone my configuration repository, symlink the dir to ~/.emacs.d and get started. Remembering to add a setq inhibit-startup-echo-area-message form violates my zeroconf policy and screws with my vc. I would like to keep my emacs configuration independent of the user name I am using. I think the two are should have no influence on each other. > PS: The main reason for the strangeness is that we want to make sure > that the startup message is not disabled site-wide, which would > prevent a new user from seeing it. I am not arguing in favour of removing that strangeness. It just does not work for me. This is why I am proposing to add another value option. I think my use case is not that much out of the ordinary. Stefan, incase I share my emacs configuration I will personally make sure that the other side knows about the -q switch and C-h C-a. Not that this will help much, but I will do that... Christopher From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 08 13:56:32 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Nov 2012 18:56:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56415 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TWXHE-000447-CM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:56:32 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:47135) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TWXHD-000441-4M for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:56:31 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TWXHA-0001QZ-5J for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:56:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 13:56:28 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 12370 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) tag 12370 wontfix From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 17 12:07:59 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2012 17:07:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47418 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkeAY-0004fJ-CM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:07:58 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:48378) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TkeAW-0004fC-2p for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:07:56 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tke9H-0005fG-Vm for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:06:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:06:39 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 13208 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) forcemerge 12370 13208 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 29 10:47:38 2013 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 May 2013 14:47:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40054 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Uhhf5-0003tm-8v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2013 10:47:37 -0400 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:49070 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Uhhf1-0003tT-LH for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 May 2013 10:47:32 -0400 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 2F98E201A3; Wed, 29 May 2013 15:46:06 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1369838766; bh=8F22pRmJ5bKeT0kKkQK6ZswTFoeO8oN5SldOW9aCZbU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Date; b=R5fR1xDdU55L1eu+kd6o3mkJ9cLsu9lpIP26v4/KWcHyp4u6VRRimtvwG6hqkDV+B xMdB0wynZaD6WA1NAUaqkhiY7kbO8aIMBF5GBx2hzkd+s5zVINxpFkY+0YS9vSawqe 8WNyIC0YiGp6GDiw+VF8b3rduCBcYyTY/bExna/4= From: Christopher Schmidt To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 12370 Message-ID: <87txllvo77@ch.ristopher.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 15:46:06 +0100 (BST) X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) close 12370 From unknown Mon Jun 16 23:49:52 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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