From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:09:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12309: 24.2.50; Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 12309 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12309@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.1346281102862 (code B ref -1); Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:59:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Aug 2012 22:58:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56542 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rDK-0000Dr-CZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:58:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60047) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rDI-0000Dl-Nv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:58:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rCD-0000x6-89 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:57:14 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:34232) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rCD-0000x2-5h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:57:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46854) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rCC-0000zN-6z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:57:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rCB-0000wg-BN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:57:12 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:18214) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rCB-0000wW-5G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:57:11 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q7TMv8TN032479 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:57:08 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q7TMv7PY004196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:57:07 GMT Received: from abhmt104.oracle.com (abhmt104.oracle.com [141.146.116.56]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q7TMv6Gb003854 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:57:07 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.248) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:57:06 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:57:05 -0700 Message-ID: <9D495703A45F4AEE90E0271404C7002C@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2GOZwj5GtFuZi/TXCMeg1k5Z1K4g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) The doc strings of these variables speak of values t, nil, `never', and (for `bookmark-version-control) `nospecial'. The Value Menu for `version-control' shows "Never", "If existing", "Always". At least you can see the correspondence, because the same words are used - you can tell that "Always" corresponds to "always" in the doc string, which corresponds to value `t'. The Value Menu for `bookmark-version-control' shows "nil", "never", "nospecial", and "Other". It is "Other" that is problematic for a user - it doesn't correspond to anything in the doc string (except by process of elimination). Please use :tag to make things clearer. In particular, use something besides "Other" (the default name) for `t' (i.e., for any other non-nil value than `never' and `nospecial'). In GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-08-26 on MARVIN Bzr revision: 109788 dmantipov@yandex.ru-20120827041533-3cy7pdjdqz14o90c Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.13.1-1-dev/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8/include/libxml2' From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:09:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12309: 24.2.50; Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matchesmenu Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12309 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: <12309@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 12309-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12309.134783843020384 (code B ref 12309); 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Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:06:13 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.219.231) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:06:12 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: <87y5jqhnff.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:06:00 -0700 Message-ID: <63E9C48B6DE546C0A47EA79246A64BD1@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87y5jqhnff.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> Thread-Index: Ac2fhkQQN3azpVovR7u3RU/ags41RwAAPhXw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) Ouch! You fixed bug #12309, Karl (thanks; looks good). But you closed bug #12507 instead. Please reopen #12507 and correct the subject lines etc. of the mails if needed, so that things are put right again. It is #12309 that should be closed, not @12507. To answer your questions: `other' in a `choice' just means any value other than the other choices listed. If the user picks the `other' choice interactively then the value given (`t' here) is used. E.g., if you set the variable to 99999 (outside of Customize) then it will act just like a value of `t'. The last sentence of the original report just meant to please at least use a :tag for the `other' choice. It is the one where a :tag is most important for clarity. But you've added :tag for each of them, which is even better. Thx - Drew P.S. FWIW, here is what I've been using for this defcustom. It's almost the same as what you have. "Whether to make numbered backups of your bookmarking files. The option can have value `nospecial', `t', `nil', or `never' . Value `nospecial' means to use the `version-control' value. The others have the same meanings as for option `version-control'. Use value `t' if your bookmarks are important to you. Consider also using numeric backups. See also nodes `Backup Names' and `Backup Deletion' in the Emacs manual." :type '(choice :tag "When to make numbered backups" (const :tag "Use value of option `version-control'" nospecial) (const :tag "Never" never) (const :tag "If existing already" nil) (other :tag "Always" t)) > From: Karl Fogel Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:38 PM > To: 12507-done@debbugs.gnu.org > Subject: bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use > :tag so docstring matches menu > > Fixed (see below), but please review. > > I don't fully understand the whole customization system > because I never > use it myself (I just read doc strings and set variables directly in > Elisp), so I don't quite get what `other' mean if used instead of > `const', and I didn't fully understand the last paragraph of the > original bug report. I looked in the Info pages, but they didn't > clarify much about this. > > -Karl > > Revision info: > > revno: 110305 > revision-id: kfogel@red-bean.com-20121001033206-5eja4ztyhs1sjm7q > parent: cyd@gnu.org-20121001031702-2mei04wuzv2pk1e7 > committer: Karl Fogel > branch nick: trunk > timestamp: Sun 2012-09-30 22:32:06 -0500 > message: > * lisp/bookmark.el (bookmark-version-control): Give tags in the > :type choices (Bug#12309), and improve doc string. > > Diff: > > === modified file 'lisp/ChangeLog' > --- lisp/ChangeLog 2012-10-01 02:07:14 +0000 > +++ lisp/ChangeLog 2012-10-01 03:31:41 +0000 > @@ -1,3 +1,8 @@ > +2012-10-01 Karl Fogel > + > + * bookmark.el (bookmark-version-control): Give tags in the > + :type choices (Bug#12309), and improve doc string. > + > 2012-10-01 Paul Eggert > > Revert the FOLLOW-SYMLINKS change for file-attributes. > > === modified file 'lisp/bookmark.el' > --- lisp/bookmark.el 2012-09-25 04:13:02 +0000 > +++ lisp/bookmark.el 2012-10-01 03:32:18 +0000 > @@ -99,12 +99,14 @@ > > (defcustom bookmark-version-control 'nospecial > "Whether or not to make numbered backups of the bookmark file. > -It can have four values: t, nil, `never', and `nospecial'. > +It can have four values: t, nil, `never', or `nospecial'. > The first three have the same meaning that they do for the > -variable `version-control', and the final value > `nospecial' means just > -use the value of `version-control'." > - :type '(choice (const nil) (const never) (const nospecial) > - (other t)) > +variable `version-control'; the value `nospecial' (the > default) means > +just use the value of `version-control'." > + :type '(choice (const :tag "If existing" nil) > + (const :tag "Never" never) > + (const :tag "Use the value of > `version-control'" nospecial) > + (const :tag "Always" t)) > :group 'bookmark) From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:09:58 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: "Drew Adams" Subject: bug#12309: closed (Re: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu) Message-ID: References: <87391yhkp4.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <9D495703A45F4AEE90E0271404C7002C@us.oracle.com> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 12309 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 12309@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 04:38:17 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1349066297-8636-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1349066297-8636-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #12309: 24.2.50; Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc strin= g matches menu which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 12309@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 12309: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D12309 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1349066297-8636-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 12309-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 04:37:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35439 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIXlH-0002EX-7E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 00:37:43 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com ([209.85.223.172]:46237) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIXlD-0002EK-PR for 12309-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 00:37:41 -0400 Received: by iec9 with SMTP id 9so11894181iec.3 for <12309-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:37:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=w9ifs203Chh6byZ85IJHs/mSV2+d+UkBBh4jMaALzRM=; b=INK+myAfcVhOwclhWpi3/rhLvt6CAFX0tq21vr5zMPSW3CNsMSU38DZTGCccx7EcnC nhWhuRKNpDf73nHPT2hsUSkWpyEi1vfR0LBGs+a3x1igth64NroqyJ2kJXUrML5TvoQL zHhkO9kYcQZqUQzdS9/KKhwnyUnQjRJlkR8qYiy/nfgzgKWep/k0Z33SBX5zmzTf6aXi lrzmvP1Y2wSf5/ulDUeZf/WEuZp8/53D/vZuP1CMFlF5faljYs3RQfWLbbfNRAOvCC46 lVbpaWTrZYVYIKo78f9lklnxqY1Pm4pQxWMRl8LPDKC8r6Fpycxx91J5VVrQXie6Ab+0 MocA== Received: by 10.50.189.200 with SMTP id gk8mr4570402igc.65.1349066234985; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from floss.red-bean.com (173-109-178-220.pools.spcsdns.net. [173.109.178.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ma9sm5824697igc.17.2012.09.30.21.37.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:37:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Karl Fogel To: 12309-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:37:11 -0500 Message-ID: <87391yhkp4.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12309-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Karl Fogel List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Fixed (see below), but please review. I don't fully understand the whole customization system because I never use it myself (I just read doc strings and set variables directly in Elisp), so I don't quite get what `other' mean if used instead of `const', and I didn't fully understand the last paragraph of the original bug report. I looked in the Info pages, but they didn't clarify much about this. -Karl Revision info: revno: 110305 revision-id: kfogel@red-bean.com-20121001033206-5eja4ztyhs1sjm7q parent: cyd@gnu.org-20121001031702-2mei04wuzv2pk1e7 committer: Karl Fogel branch nick: trunk timestamp: Sun 2012-09-30 22:32:06 -0500 message: * lisp/bookmark.el (bookmark-version-control): Give tags in the :type choices (Bug#12309), and improve doc string. Diff: === modified file 'lisp/ChangeLog' --- lisp/ChangeLog 2012-10-01 02:07:14 +0000 +++ lisp/ChangeLog 2012-10-01 03:31:41 +0000 @@ -1,3 +1,8 @@ +2012-10-01 Karl Fogel + + * bookmark.el (bookmark-version-control): Give tags in the + :type choices (Bug#12309), and improve doc string. + 2012-10-01 Paul Eggert Revert the FOLLOW-SYMLINKS change for file-attributes. === modified file 'lisp/bookmark.el' --- lisp/bookmark.el 2012-09-25 04:13:02 +0000 +++ lisp/bookmark.el 2012-10-01 03:32:18 +0000 @@ -99,12 +99,14 @@ (defcustom bookmark-version-control 'nospecial "Whether or not to make numbered backups of the bookmark file. -It can have four values: t, nil, `never', and `nospecial'. +It can have four values: t, nil, `never', or `nospecial'. The first three have the same meaning that they do for the -variable `version-control', and the final value `nospecial' means just -use the value of `version-control'." - :type '(choice (const nil) (const never) (const nospecial) - (other t)) +variable `version-control'; the value `nospecial' (the default) means +just use the value of `version-control'." + :type '(choice (const :tag "If existing" nil) + (const :tag "Never" never) + (const :tag "Use the value of `version-control'" nospecial) + (const :tag "Always" t)) :group 'bookmark) ------------=_1349066297-8636-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Aug 2012 22:58:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56542 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rDK-0000Dr-CZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:58:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60047) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rDI-0000Dl-Nv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:58:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rCD-0000x6-89 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:57:14 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:34232) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rCD-0000x2-5h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:57:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46854) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rCC-0000zN-6z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:57:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rCB-0000wg-BN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:57:12 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:18214) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T6rCB-0000wW-5G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:57:11 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q7TMv8TN032479 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:57:08 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q7TMv7PY004196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:57:07 GMT Received: from abhmt104.oracle.com (abhmt104.oracle.com [141.146.116.56]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q7TMv6Gb003854 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:57:07 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.248) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:57:06 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.2.50; Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:57:05 -0700 Message-ID: <9D495703A45F4AEE90E0271404C7002C@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2GOZwj5GtFuZi/TXCMeg1k5Z1K4g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) The doc strings of these variables speak of values t, nil, `never', and (for `bookmark-version-control) `nospecial'. The Value Menu for `version-control' shows "Never", "If existing", "Always". At least you can see the correspondence, because the same words are used - you can tell that "Always" corresponds to "always" in the doc string, which corresponds to value `t'. The Value Menu for `bookmark-version-control' shows "nil", "never", "nospecial", and "Other". It is "Other" that is problematic for a user - it doesn't correspond to anything in the doc string (except by process of elimination). Please use :tag to make things clearer. In particular, use something besides "Other" (the default name) for `t' (i.e., for any other non-nil value than `never' and `nospecial'). In GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-08-26 on MARVIN Bzr revision: 109788 dmantipov@yandex.ru-20120827041533-3cy7pdjdqz14o90c Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.13.1-1-dev/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8/include/libxml2' ------------=_1349066297-8636-1-- From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:09:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12309: Improved wording. References: <9D495703A45F4AEE90E0271404C7002C@us.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <9D495703A45F4AEE90E0271404C7002C@us.oracle.com> Resent-From: Karl Fogel Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 06:54:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12309 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12309@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Karl Fogel Received: via spool by 12309-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12309.134907442323779 (code B ref 12309); Mon, 01 Oct 2012 06:54:03 +0000 Received: (at 12309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 06:53:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35480 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIZst-0006BP-BW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 02:53:43 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com ([209.85.223.172]:33803) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIXRr-0001jo-HD for 12309@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 00:17:39 -0400 Received: by iec9 with SMTP id 9so11871154iec.3 for <12309@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:17:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CZzv5FCkqwG79dL3FGEiHO0hzOEw0hDb6P754s+Sh7A=; b=ATWSPmed01Vdxh5wZmhIBMW10SkBlmoiGPZU0VPOk91G9uTujEHvatu2/JERlxKlLB vX2YeJ/diQsULjCwSjGnTor8ovJgwoeK4/ZSW/OxhKrQvWgwA2D+WR6cCsUQcT3Lmvei 8Oo955l6amun4iJiQgZqtSCGsu2b9zuB/s+gS3qkmhy8OzPwsH9cGXJqeFp/chZrzWQz zW6mYMKPBxhEslJE9lqn4LQL9ewYNt+3JRecbzfFVqWoACxn7HmWVfSGkgp5MUggdeBL OCx5UgkSE/m6T2iyhjYTC+o8gjRdZcnTQlMBjIiRi656TyNblyN4bCGPIuqsZqLvd+3j d0bg== Received: by 10.43.93.69 with SMTP id bt5mr10355228icc.8.1349065034861; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from floss.red-bean.com (173-109-178-220.pools.spcsdns.net. [173.109.178.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id mi10sm6214938igc.16.2012.09.30.21.17.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:17:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Karl Fogel Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:17:10 -0500 Message-ID: <87a9w6hlmh.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 02:53:41 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Drew, thanks for your comment [1]. I tweaked the variable to use your somewhat better choices. =C2=ADKarl [1] http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D12507#102 because I misfired my original control mail and put it in 12507 instead of here in 12309. From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:09:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12309: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu References: <9D495703A45F4AEE90E0271404C7002C@us.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <9D495703A45F4AEE90E0271404C7002C@us.oracle.com> Resent-From: Karl Fogel Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 06:54:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12309 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12309-done@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Karl Fogel Received: via spool by 12309-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D12309.134907442323773 (code D ref 12309); Mon, 01 Oct 2012 06:54:03 +0000 Received: (at 12309-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 06:53:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35478 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIZss-0006BM-JH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 02:53:43 -0400 Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com ([209.85.223.172]:52119) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIWys-00011K-3u for 12309-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:47:42 -0400 Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 9so11836823iec.3 for <12309-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:47:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=w9ifs203Chh6byZ85IJHs/mSV2+d+UkBBh4jMaALzRM=; b=R+lotJfyG6X/VDqh0jo7B08XjdNwy5khBRQ886c5+8kjZpD1CIg/9HgylF4nqvXUPu DiaS3U5w8xNzi5YZjo+tiN2SyrC3M4AGrAKYfqjDZMioLCI5Nbo48u6NHKo0GJZPHvGF A8/Y6xOrW7KpBDF5xyQEMtfMqXbK1WOv5cIF6ldYu43+uxc9N2wym7kZV3uQoIsr9/dL t9L9MnWWbHvetHOiGcop2O+n2iYKgaUW2UU3N7gxSV6Fmr+KYq5mL3cVucYGt6Q2xsA2 rYP9h0yU5I1A24wTCeQ6EQBFKXY26VkvvW8shtYDSkA0CoSbE8ngaz2fKUSbacO+t7k7 4TXA== Received: by 10.50.10.163 with SMTP id j3mr4597203igb.18.1349063237650; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from floss.red-bean.com (173-109-178-220.pools.spcsdns.net. [173.109.178.220]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ff4sm6190750igc.5.2012.09.30.20.47.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:47:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Karl Fogel Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 22:47:13 -0500 Message-ID: <87r4pihn0e.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 02:53:41 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Fixed (see below), but please review. I don't fully understand the whole customization system because I never use it myself (I just read doc strings and set variables directly in Elisp), so I don't quite get what `other' mean if used instead of `const', and I didn't fully understand the last paragraph of the original bug report. I looked in the Info pages, but they didn't clarify much about this. -Karl Revision info: revno: 110305 revision-id: kfogel@red-bean.com-20121001033206-5eja4ztyhs1sjm7q parent: cyd@gnu.org-20121001031702-2mei04wuzv2pk1e7 committer: Karl Fogel branch nick: trunk timestamp: Sun 2012-09-30 22:32:06 -0500 message: * lisp/bookmark.el (bookmark-version-control): Give tags in the :type choices (Bug#12309), and improve doc string. Diff: === modified file 'lisp/ChangeLog' --- lisp/ChangeLog 2012-10-01 02:07:14 +0000 +++ lisp/ChangeLog 2012-10-01 03:31:41 +0000 @@ -1,3 +1,8 @@ +2012-10-01 Karl Fogel + + * bookmark.el (bookmark-version-control): Give tags in the + :type choices (Bug#12309), and improve doc string. + 2012-10-01 Paul Eggert Revert the FOLLOW-SYMLINKS change for file-attributes. === modified file 'lisp/bookmark.el' --- lisp/bookmark.el 2012-09-25 04:13:02 +0000 +++ lisp/bookmark.el 2012-10-01 03:32:18 +0000 @@ -99,12 +99,14 @@ (defcustom bookmark-version-control 'nospecial "Whether or not to make numbered backups of the bookmark file. -It can have four values: t, nil, `never', and `nospecial'. +It can have four values: t, nil, `never', or `nospecial'. The first three have the same meaning that they do for the -variable `version-control', and the final value `nospecial' means just -use the value of `version-control'." - :type '(choice (const nil) (const never) (const nospecial) - (other t)) +variable `version-control'; the value `nospecial' (the default) means +just use the value of `version-control'." + :type '(choice (const :tag "If existing" nil) + (const :tag "Never" never) + (const :tag "Use the value of `version-control'" nospecial) + (const :tag "Always" t)) :group 'bookmark) From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:09:58 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12309: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 09:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12309 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Karl Fogel Cc: 12309-done@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12309-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D12309.13490845456337 (code D ref 12309); Mon, 01 Oct 2012 09:43:01 +0000 Received: (at 12309-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2012 09:42:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35695 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIcW8-0001eA-E9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 05:42:24 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:51308) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TIcW5-0001dz-GV for 12309-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 05:42:22 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3XVdmw11dYz4KK2f; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:41:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: DzFoJpgabOj/ldGdTceHCytSvySfiQonmJuRVW0OOS8= Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-115-248.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.115.248]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3XVdmw0V7Tzbbl9; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:41:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 3C1DECA2A4; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 11:41:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <9D495703A45F4AEE90E0271404C7002C@us.oracle.com> <87r4pihn0e.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> X-Yow: Do you think the ``Monkees'' should get gas on odd or even days? Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:41:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87r4pihn0e.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> (Karl Fogel's message of "Sun, 30 Sep 2012 22:47:13 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Karl Fogel writes: > I don't fully understand the whole customization system because I never > use it myself (I just read doc strings and set variables directly in > Elisp), so I don't quite get what `other' mean if used instead of > `const', and I didn't fully understand the last paragraph of the > original bug report. I looked in the Info pages, but they didn't > clarify much about this. const only matches the specified value, other matches any value, but uses the specified value when setting. Thus setting the variable manually to 'foo won't get a mismatch. You can see the documentation of each widget with widget-browse. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." 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[74.92.190.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id in10sm7891415igc.14.2012.10.01.14.25.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:25:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Karl Fogel References: <9D495703A45F4AEE90E0271404C7002C@us.oracle.com> <87r4pihn0e.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:25:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Mon, 01 Oct 2012 11:41:50 +0200") Message-ID: <87fw5xdgvo.fsf@kwarm.red-bean.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) Andreas Schwab writes: >const only matches the specified value, other matches any value, but >uses the specified value when setting. Thus setting the variable >manually to 'foo won't get a mismatch. You can see the documentation of >each widget with widget-browse. Thanks, Andreas. Looks like having `other' on `t' is the right thing, then. -K