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Emacs -q t.m > 2. Move point to the first '-' > 3. M-: (c-at-expression-start-p) > 4. Move point to the second '-' > 5. M-: (c-at-expression-start-p) > > step 3 return nil but step 5 returns non-nil. It appears that every > first method declaration fails c-at-expression-start-p. > > Leo > > @interface ZXITFReader : ZXOneDReader > > - (NSArray *)decodeStart:(ZXBitArray *)row; > - (NSArray *)decodeEnd:(ZXBitArray *)row; > > @end I can reproduce this on current master and 26.1. 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Content preview: severity 12263 minor thanks Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.215.174 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.215.174 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (stefankangas[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN 2nd level domains in From and EnvelopeFrom freemail headers are different 2.0 BLANK_SUBJECT Subject is present but empty -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders severity 12263 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 01 07:26:42 2019 Received: (at 12263) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2019 11:26:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55099 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQV4j-0003zA-Pg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 07:26:42 -0400 Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:10003 helo=mail.muc.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQV4h-0003z1-MM for 12263@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 07:26:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 41060 invoked by uid 3782); 1 Nov 2019 11:26:37 -0000 Received: from acm.muc.de (p4FE15DFE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.225.93.254]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 12:26:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 6547 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Nov 2019 11:26:36 -0000 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 11:26:36 +0000 To: Leo , Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#12263: 24.2; c-at-expression-start-p Message-ID: <20191101112636.GA6473@ACM> References: <87sgn9vmyi.fsf@joffe.skangas.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87sgn9vmyi.fsf@joffe.skangas.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: Alan Mackenzie X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12263 Cc: 12263@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, Leo and Stefan. On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 00:21:41 +0100, Stefan Kangas wrote: > tags 12263 + confirmed > found 12263 26.1 > found 12263 27.0.50 > thanks > Leo writes: > > 1. Emacs -q t.m > > 2. Move point to the first '-' > > 3. M-: (c-at-expression-start-p) > > 4. Move point to the second '-' > > 5. M-: (c-at-expression-start-p) > > step 3 return nil but step 5 returns non-nil. It appears that every > > first method declaration fails c-at-expression-start-p. > > Leo > > @interface ZXITFReader : ZXOneDReader > > - (NSArray *)decodeStart:(ZXBitArray *)row; > > - (NSArray *)decodeEnd:(ZXBitArray *)row; > > @end > I can reproduce this on current master and 26.1. Yes. c-at-expression-start-p is a strange function. It is not interactive, yet is not used at all by CC Mode. A web search found no uses of it (though I don't really trust web searches). The function's documentation also defines "expression" somewhat idiosyncratically as: "An \"expression\" here is a bit different from the normal language grammar sense: It's any sequence of expression tokens except commas, unless they are enclosed inside parentheses of some kind." . With that definition of "expression", there is no bug here, since there is nothing before that "-" to terminate any "previous expression". However, this redefinition of "expression" hardly seems defendable - it seems to have been made mainly for the convenience in coding. Leo, can you remember at all what (if anything) you were using this function for? Given that it appears to be wholly unused, I'm inclined to mark this function as obsolete or deprecated, and then to remove it later. It doesn't seem to be worth the trouble to make it work properly. The same might also apply to the function c-at-statement-start-p. > Best regards, > Stefan Kangas -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 01 09:29:45 2019 Received: (at 12263) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Nov 2019 13:29:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55205 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQWzo-0006ua-QK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 09:29:45 -0400 Received: from mail-pg1-f182.google.com ([209.85.215.182]:33912) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQWzm-0006uK-CA for 12263@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 09:29:43 -0400 Received: by mail-pg1-f182.google.com with SMTP id e4so6519142pgs.1 for <12263@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 06:29:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:date:message-id :references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=+3/KcnaQnQ5SYMH6VumqXgWjBUnx3Lu7xdp5GfArewE=; b=sY31mG5bP9fz0c1cH+0eudUuZ4Ff0TShs/gYtKp70LpOUaAJADo4+GGs3AXOxBaY02 4fh8L/3CpIBe/Y7ROzNwbVrcXBJ+CzNzE+fDr9CGxqwFlxx08ceRDfV7H3H/AEmB8m2o isO+QtLNz2UejraLdKfnxwIDLVDIvASXrXFW1HrYmOpIDmUsgAV1IyAcqpITzWUArJnT M/Q/Nz/HuTOJLmin5EAF+zWCUNGHYgs33J0C1DtYUnZl2R+vflTAC2fhZZR/gbS0etER hjpK7SzLFLqbG2xWjR3N2sDz+25JCw+bmk9Nmo3xsZwU2ibHjB8LGfNfq3f4kK74XqmJ x9NA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version :subject:date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=+3/KcnaQnQ5SYMH6VumqXgWjBUnx3Lu7xdp5GfArewE=; b=ccxAtn17uY6tZJBt9tSARYWr0beIMGRf9w9+ukDZMzB1ZnGMmyLFJVO9SUGFidj1A1 xlrbb/0oiaBtR59a9QurTl5fpYT7udVNhrdMRissR8+OpZk4wb+gkiiv9bVqdRfYZkAL SNb0QzCL2juWGmJEy9ycd+UgE7639xJb79IpXMi8qzUdADgV/SpjYl8B8x8d0CZ9UyCM E7b8NKjqgWdGZb5rNWM7aLcxIfIEGr8Q1uCdJeIilZ8SgRK3DmnLoOZyUPYKzxZG68vp 5y3nhRuIFCTiIUAFLwEDSz0zjnFPIOfiDEotA96+6mAYU60FT7JWeH9gOTtuoHwKRNi3 QvOg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUAQzDYLtUG95lXEy1pnWGbEZ+1h0Tv05qG+QGK+m/5pWjZXmXb anmeLMsBoM0fgScio4+0JelmXczR X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqympqZuxiEKGLIrL4ghdanZAlHYfe3CTASg+NG0QWAQ+DEw4yuRPGVBkEStx5zXJaJbDLpnPA== X-Received: by 2002:a62:b616:: with SMTP id j22mr13380949pff.55.1572614976401; Fri, 01 Nov 2019 06:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [100.108.113.79] ([110.54.139.14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h189sm6040091pge.88.2019.11.01.06.29.33 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 01 Nov 2019 06:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Leo Liu Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: bug#12263: 24.2; c-at-expression-start-p Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 21:29:27 +0800 Message-Id: <53036007-4154-4F4A-A027-21D5D49C4132@gmail.com> References: <20191101112636.GA6473@ACM> In-Reply-To: <20191101112636.GA6473@ACM> To: Alan Mackenzie X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17A878) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12263 Cc: 12263@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > On 1 Nov 2019, at 19:26, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >=20 > Leo, can you remember at all what (if anything) you were using this > function for? >=20 > Given that it appears to be wholly unused, I'm inclined to mark this > function as obsolete or deprecated, and then to remove it later. It > doesn't seem to be worth the trouble to make it work properly. The same > might also apply to the function c-at-statement-start-p. This sounds like a plan. I will check what I use it for in 2-3 days when I w= ill have proper internet connection. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 2019-11-01 11:26 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Leo, can you remember at all what (if anything) you were using this > function for? I used it once in my init script. But > Given that it appears to be wholly unused, I'm inclined to mark this > function as obsolete or deprecated, and then to remove it later. 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Leo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 03 05:11:25 2019 Received: (at 12263) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Nov 2019 10:11:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33396 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iRCqx-0004Gd-Eb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 05:11:25 -0500 Received: from mail-pf1-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]:42019) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iRCqu-0004GO-Lh for 12263@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 05:11:21 -0500 Received: by mail-pf1-f172.google.com with SMTP id s5so1895868pfh.9 for <12263@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 02:11:20 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=inJKTFDcXPpXUdFplzSkVNht3mRWnvhkjYmMgNewwlI=; b=aVKROxwwoPUeRlyeBDzyfcULBUUVOQM7Q62uvCeoZQ1P+BcR9OCN0uxRVhzZ5RJhzT zNnR4RwxgZdeYv8GnSVncM8qFMZcFogjeX6nzUEY5nJIwJUMOJjPAdCmoU5XLYahDRTY rre+GZTy1yJ0+dLwBEIiAgo2IDRmh0YrSrWubGeKHmA5/Hc+x6h2SN4zt07y3+KTTucK eI+fXmdt2TkZ2YcG4dAw1pnTaalG9LpcctnV6d1/JH6YJ7c2BPibd3jq7J6XK8Xfz0Lc oU3Wp9k0/NVfxpiQmyZd5EZFmMLIU1+jomvFLrfIYkDS/0dk8Joui+iMe14PcpPm5KY/ Oziw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWjl4EGvZeRrFhE65eQUDeMo/Nj1rXmyq8oaoBcG4pQS+5ZSAY4 DVVHdbPllPep3h6n6oopJYkErgm/UvlyYpz3vss= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyN3qoPcwInAo5a0jpyuJ5geE/F+X7Qi8TvNr6lylQS1lM4Mb1Q8gQGVcjaWn43ALsDXMCU7lYPXqV78ObYgYs= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:97b3:: with SMTP id d19mr20355852pfq.50.1572775874974; Sun, 03 Nov 2019 02:11:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87sgn9vmyi.fsf@joffe.skangas.se> <20191101112636.GA6473@ACM> In-Reply-To: <20191101112636.GA6473@ACM> From: Stefan Kangas Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 11:11:03 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#12263: 24.2; c-at-expression-start-p To: Alan Mackenzie Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12263 Cc: 12263@debbugs.gnu.org, Leo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Alan Mackenzie writes: > Given that it appears to be wholly unused, I'm inclined to mark this > function as obsolete or deprecated, and then to remove it later. It > doesn't seem to be worth the trouble to make it work properly. The same > might also apply to the function c-at-statement-start-p. Sounds good to me. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 04 12:43:36 2020 Received: (at 12263-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2020 16:43:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59465 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jrlGK-0008Cp-Kd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2020 12:43:36 -0400 Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:45665 helo=mail.muc.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jrlGH-0008CV-D6 for 12263-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jul 2020 12:43:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 5718 invoked by uid 3782); 4 Jul 2020 16:43:26 -0000 Received: from acm.muc.de (p2e5d5832.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [46.93.88.50]) by localhost.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sat, 04 Jul 2020 18:43:25 +0200 Received: (qmail 22943 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Jul 2020 16:43:25 -0000 Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 16:43:25 +0000 To: Leo Liu Subject: Re: bug#12263: 24.2; c-at-expression-start-p Message-ID: <20200704164325.GB19042@ACM> References: <87sgn9vmyi.fsf@joffe.skangas.se> <20191101112636.GA6473__22786.3558496878$1572607651$gmane$org@ACM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: Alan Mackenzie X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12263-done Cc: Stefan Kangas , 12263-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, Leo. On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 10:57:25 +0800, Leo Liu wrote: > On 2019-11-01 11:26 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Leo, can you remember at all what (if anything) you were using this > > function for? > I used it once in my init script. But > > Given that it appears to be wholly unused, I'm inclined to mark this > > function as obsolete or deprecated, and then to remove it later. It > > doesn't seem to be worth the trouble to make it work properly. The same > > might also apply to the function c-at-statement-start-p. I've marked c-at-expression-start-p as obsolete. I've got rid of a formerly obsolete function entirely (might as well). c-at-statement-start-p is actually used quite a bit in CC Mode, so it stays. ;-) > I can live with this change. Thanks for asking. I'm closing the bug with this post. > Leo -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). 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