From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:00:07 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#12174 <12174@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#12174 <12174@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.1.50; C-h f and non-symbol remap targets Reply-To: bug#12174 <12174@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 21:00:07 +0000 retitle 12174 24.1.50; C-h f and non-symbol remap targets reassign 12174 emacs submitter 12174 Christopher Schmidt severity 12174 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 10 18:04:12 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2012 22:04:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47655 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SzxJT-0001x0-8l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:04:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38263) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SzxJQ-0001wt-VO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:04:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SzxBO-0002vv-LT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:55:51 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:56551) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SzxBO-0002vW-Hh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:55:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35576) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SzxBM-0007hz-Ce for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:55:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SzxBJ-0002r0-06 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:55:48 -0400 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:48856 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SzxBI-0002pM-MO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:55:44 -0400 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 2A42B20CB0; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:55:42 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1344635742; bh=IKy38Pr3cQ6K5vW78MZWx152CSJD/e7PWo7JLSnkJ1A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Date; b=PtqNOc9UIdtpCrjCg7DoboFFL31y/B1eHajXNzJiHa54LS5gHlREYusjwJXj1hH87 78L+DCY2ZyNUtdh5lZVC2zMAk7OxOCyNUv5gxUECPqP79/jlRBRF0c2bSvppccIswG DdgNDHhzrUABIlX56ewJsIhDzfKyEpK2u/TjBGTY= From: Christopher Schmidt To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.1.50; C-h f and non-symbol remap targets Message-ID: <878vdme7jd@ch.ristopher.com> Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:55:42 +0100 (BST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain (global-set-key [remap write-file] (lambda () (interactive) 'rms)) C-h f write-file RET This yields in an error because help-fns--key-bindings expects (command-remapping 'write-file) to be a symbol. Here is a patch that abbreviates non-symbol remap targets with "??". This is consistent with what describe-bindings displays. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename=help-fns--key-bindings.diff === modified file 'lisp/ChangeLog' --- lisp/ChangeLog 2012-08-10 21:03:10 +0000 +++ lisp/ChangeLog 2012-08-10 21:53:48 +0000 @@ -1,3 +1,8 @@ +2012-08-10 Christopher Schmidt + + * help-fns.el (help-fns--key-bindings): Abbreviate non-symbol + remap targets with ?? (Bug#). + 2012-08-10 Stefan Monnier * emacs-lisp/rx.el (rx-constituents): Don't define as constant. === modified file 'lisp/help-fns.el' --- lisp/help-fns.el 2012-08-06 21:05:48 +0000 +++ lisp/help-fns.el 2012-08-10 21:28:18 +0000 @@ -398,7 +398,7 @@ (push key non-modified-keys))) (when remapped (princ "Its keys are remapped to `") - (princ (symbol-name remapped)) + (princ (if (symbolp remapped) (symbol-name remapped) "??")) (princ "'.\n")) (when keys --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Christopher --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 14 14:21:26 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2012 18:21:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56812 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Lk6-0007lN-20 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:21:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43526) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Lk3-0007lF-L1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:21:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Lbf-0003FS-HG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:12:44 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:48992) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Lbf-0003FO-Ej for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:12:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39585) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Lbe-0006c7-Ik for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:12:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Lbc-0003F3-OD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:12:42 -0400 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:49638 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Lbc-0003Eb-FI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 14:12:40 -0400 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 5658D20CB8; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:12:38 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1344967958; bh=RAVP9Q0JY+2VC5YAjXUtO65qGWEUQXm7PV8MsG0k6jc=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Date; b=qHoYccyH7QYFW6UsfHKNDjy8wroTX7sC7YArQzmHFIVvRNJfxu7KEe5EP4D1gWBdn 6kWnTjMgcUrU+zoQonlV07Not2kB3QyknlyDRy1/IjnbOXcmq0JIKedYSRG3lhDCGn JFgwDmN4ZTc+5rQTpcKfLu+HUt5F30f6n67vL2jo= From: Christopher Schmidt To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12174: 24.1.50; C-h f and non-symbol remap targets In-Reply-To: <878vdme7jd@ch.ristopher.com> (Christopher Schmidt's message of "Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:55:42 +0100 (BST)") References: <878vdme7jd@ch.ristopher.com> Message-ID: <87628lpcko@ch.ristopher.com> Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:12:38 +0100 (BST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Christopher Schmidt writes: > Here is a patch that abbreviates non-symbol remap targets with "??". > This is consistent with what describe-bindings displays. A sobering thought - ?? does not need to be quoted. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename=help-fns--key-bindings-2.diff === modified file 'lisp/ChangeLog' --- lisp/ChangeLog 2012-08-14 12:38:11 +0000 +++ lisp/ChangeLog 2012-08-14 13:46:05 +0000 @@ -1,3 +1,8 @@ +2012-08-14 Christopher Schmidt + + * help-fns.el (help-fns--key-bindings): Abbreviate non-symbol + remap targets with ?? (Bug#12174). + 2012-08-14 Dmitry Gutov * progmodes/ruby-mode.el: Improve percent literals (bug#6286). === modified file 'lisp/help-fns.el' --- lisp/help-fns.el 2012-08-06 21:05:48 +0000 +++ lisp/help-fns.el 2012-08-14 13:44:48 +0000 @@ -397,9 +397,11 @@ (if (member (event-modifiers (aref key 0)) '(nil (shift))) (push key non-modified-keys))) (when remapped - (princ "Its keys are remapped to `") - (princ (symbol-name remapped)) - (princ "'.\n")) + (princ "Its keys are remapped to ") + (princ (if (symbolp remapped) + (concat "`" (symbol-name remapped) "'") + "??")) + (princ ".\n")) (when keys (princ (if remapped --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Please commit and/or close this bug report. Christopher --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 14 22:46:58 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2012 02:46:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57362 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T1TdJ-0004At-Sc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:46:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56575) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T1TdH-0004Al-Eq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:46:56 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1TUr-0001yI-Fk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:38:14 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:43202) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1TUr-0001yE-DA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:38:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43647) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1TUq-000471-IT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:38:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1TUp-0001y3-Qa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:38:12 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:51760) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1TUp-0001xy-MM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:38:11 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09MCqqR/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBVjMLNBIUGA2IQAW6CY0mgx4DozOBWIMF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="195708262" Received: from 76-10-170-145.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([76.10.170.145]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 14 Aug 2012 22:38:10 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 39C29AE2F6; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:38:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12174: 24.1.50; C-h f and non-symbol remap targets Message-ID: References: <878vdme7jd@ch.ristopher.com> <87628lpcko@ch.ristopher.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:38:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87628lpcko@ch.ristopher.com> (Christopher Schmidt's message of "Tue, 14 Aug 2012 19:12:38 +0100 (BST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) >> Here is a patch that abbreviates non-symbol remap targets with "??". >> This is consistent with what describe-bindings displays. > A sobering thought - ?? does not need to be quoted. Actually, ?? is a bad choice, since it seems to imply that Emacs doesn't even know what it's remapped to, whereas Emacs does know very well, it just doesn't want to print it out in full because it would be ugly and too verbose. So I suggest we replace "??" with something like "an anonymous command". Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 15 04:42:34 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2012 08:42:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57733 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T1ZBR-0003qu-18 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 04:42:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34367) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T1ZBO-0003qm-5j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 04:42:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Z2w-0005TH-Ic for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 04:33:47 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:52536) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Z2w-0005TD-G5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 04:33:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55961) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Z2v-0000ID-E5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 04:33:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Z2u-0005Sm-0i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 04:33:45 -0400 Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:49742 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Z2t-0005SZ-OV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 04:33:43 -0400 Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id D60B820CB8; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:33:41 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1345019622; bh=ZLvELi99pOXUFO91Q8eIUXPKN1lSnp5tG9sMAUW9gm8=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Date; b=rAUQ65mFtBulXr5sH8JkPu8Q/UNX07VI9rHeFOIGX1PfHISWTaeAzfhSPjkz6gY31 GU3F0IFWx2c8p4KmhrBq9V+gVE0/l4EauLe4eZEc4bkCwOf75fPyldm23RA3Xid57q rk9XNYlm4ufam/D+IkYtaAJJSbz7dKl3ZxPzSwvQ= From: Christopher Schmidt To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12174: 24.1.50; C-h f and non-symbol remap targets In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:38:10 -0400") References: <878vdme7jd@ch.ristopher.com> <87628lpcko@ch.ristopher.com> Message-ID: <87has4tuzb@ch.ristopher.com> Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:33:41 +0100 (BST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Stefan Monnier writes: > Actually, ?? is a bad choice, since it seems to imply that Emacs > doesn't even know what it's remapped to, whereas Emacs does know very > well, it just doesn't want to print it out in full because it would be > ugly and too verbose. So I suggest we replace "??" with something > like "an anonymous command". --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename=help-fns--key-bindings-3.diff === modified file 'lisp/ChangeLog' --- lisp/ChangeLog 2012-08-15 07:58:34 +0000 +++ lisp/ChangeLog 2012-08-15 08:26:41 +0000 @@ -1,3 +1,8 @@ +2012-08-15 Christopher Schmidt + + * help-fns.el (help-fns--key-bindings): Abbreviate non-symbol + remap targets (Bug#12174). + 2012-08-15 Chong Yidong * frame.el (set-frame-font): Accept font objects. === modified file 'lisp/help-fns.el' --- lisp/help-fns.el 2012-08-06 21:05:48 +0000 +++ lisp/help-fns.el 2012-08-15 08:27:33 +0000 @@ -397,9 +397,11 @@ (if (member (event-modifiers (aref key 0)) '(nil (shift))) (push key non-modified-keys))) (when remapped - (princ "Its keys are remapped to `") - (princ (symbol-name remapped)) - (princ "'.\n")) + (princ "Its keys are remapped to ") + (princ (if (symbolp remapped) + (concat "`" (symbol-name remapped) "'") + "an anonymous command")) + (princ ".\n")) (when keys (princ (if remapped --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Christopher --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 22 03:02:44 2012 Received: (at 12174-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2012 07:02:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42546 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T44xf-0006SS-5u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:02:44 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:46519) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T44xc-0006SL-PD for 12174-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:02:41 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T44xE-0001Q5-CT; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:02:16 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 12174-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#12174: 24.1.50; C-h f and non-symbol remap targets References: <878vdme7jd@ch.ristopher.com> <87628lpcko@ch.ristopher.com> <87has4tuzb@ch.ristopher.com> X-Spook: argus Manfurov Ft. Knox nuclear kibo AVN Forte ICE X-Ran: C\;`p2b1JKKOlqG\g.9myO2?!xjhm*S!!>|D,UTy]";"D?q3N.]DE'mOst:9#Uuh:pH_/g X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:02:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87has4tuzb@ch.ristopher.com> (Christopher Schmidt's message of "Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:33:41 +0100 (BST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12174-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) Version: 24.3 Thanks; applied to trunk. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 22 03:22:14 2012 Received: (at 12174) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2012 07:22:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42569 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T45GU-0006ts-Ug for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:22:14 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:49168) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T45GO-0006tf-GV for 12174@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:22:09 -0400 Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so985708obb.3 for <12174@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:21:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4gSfoK61Q1ZvelTpHaXzxH3EkJB63JK8EfEdlmRZhio=; b=u1qGFcvdhWXuCyA5o/ckKUGzI7XWLABsBau+P0XF+Y38Q1F33nXceT+r+fJ18zmagH fh02IXcDcHnYgm0u55uODT2GJKsvNzCT074iTTkWgrSiJu9o+7VxzMViOqO8suEQp5ew nG684mpKuz37uEkLyz4SFCVWnzJPhUONcKZa4X6gq3gEWMIaSx+iTrl66qOZ0RR6+9of WHjdeaeqR2Jc1f0D1Uc1ujHV08MzrOnORZUGIXRehr3FkLWCauGqnUUyoYUSy/H6hN3b 7hLxh8hfm2aV2AYWW11jIo/zLJZZMcF0Hfjm0+vVam9wlhPepmmPrq2NzLvbmoF5cIWk XA0Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.30.168 with SMTP id t8mr10002455oeh.89.1345620100210; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.79.226 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:21:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <878vdme7jd@ch.ristopher.com> <87628lpcko@ch.ristopher.com> <87has4tuzb@ch.ristopher.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:21:40 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#12174: 24.1.50; C-h f and non-symbol remap targets From: Dani Moncayo To: 12174@debbugs.gnu.org, rgm@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12174 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Version: 24.3 One question: If some other severe bug arises upon the (not yet) released Emacs 24.2, so that a 24.3 release becomes necessary (from the emacs-24 branch), then the above tag will be incorrect, won't it? It seems that the current versioning pattern has this problem. We don't know beforehand the version under which the current trunk code will be released. So, what about switching to a different pattern which doesn't have this problem? For example: Name the next trunk's branch as "emacs-24.3", and every release made from that branch would be labeled "emacs 24.3.x". This way, we would know for sure that the trunk code would be released as version "24.4" (or "25.1" -- what the maintainer's decide). -- Dani Moncayo From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 22 03:24:39 2012 Received: (at 12174) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2012 07:24:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42574 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T45Ip-0006x6-3V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:24:39 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:47577) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T45Ij-0006ww-CF for 12174@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:24:33 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T45IL-0005ew-A6; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:24:05 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Dani Moncayo Subject: Re: bug#12174: 24.1.50; C-h f and non-symbol remap targets References: <878vdme7jd@ch.ristopher.com> <87628lpcko@ch.ristopher.com> <87has4tuzb@ch.ristopher.com> X-Spook: Operation Iraqi Freedom PGP e-bomb security Tony Blair X-Ran: xm-]@!4X9yhMW;W`0YNYa`p1[ts2NINWWzIs/!m+ (Dani Moncayo's message of "Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:21:40 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12174 Cc: 12174@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) Dani Moncayo wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Glenn Morris wrote: >> Version: 24.3 > > One question: If some other severe bug arises upon the (not yet) > released Emacs 24.2, so that a 24.3 release becomes necessary (from > the emacs-24 branch), then the above tag will be incorrect, won't it? Yes, it's a (minor) problem. I suggest discussing it on emacs-devel rather than here though. From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:00:07 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator