From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:44:38 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#12149 <12149@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#12149 <12149@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.1; `C-h f' is worse and worse at telling where a function was defined Reply-To: bug#12149 <12149@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2025 07:44:38 +0000 retitle 12149 24.1; `C-h f' is worse and worse at telling where a function = was defined reassign 12149 emacs submitter 12149 "Drew Adams" severity 12149 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 06 13:57:21 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2012 17:57:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37885 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SyRYP-0003LM-4g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:57:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44826) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SyRYM-0003LE-9m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:57:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyRQh-0007mh-JH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:49:24 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:48858) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyRQh-0007md-GE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:49:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41075) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyRQg-0005Yo-GC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:49:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyRQf-0007mE-DR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:49:22 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:49514) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyRQf-0007lz-79 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:49:21 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q76HnHjl030088 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:49:18 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q76HnGkK000512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:49:17 GMT Received: from abhmt107.oracle.com (abhmt107.oracle.com [141.146.116.59]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q76HnGbP032571 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:49:16 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.248) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 10:49:16 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.1; `C-h f' is worse and worse at telling where a function was defined Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 10:49:15 -0700 Message-ID: <28819A29BB374779AEEA60B7FF63A25B@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1z+8ugNDNInFAtRSmcSpG68Rcx4A== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) I have this code: (defun 1on1-setup-minibuffer-frame-coloring () "Redefine some built-in functions so they color the minibuffer frame. Functions redefined: `y-or-n-p', `top-level', `abort-recursive-exit'." (or (fboundp '1on1-ORIG-y-or-n-p) (fset '1on1-ORIG-y-or-n-p (symbol-function 'y-or-n-p))) (defun y-or-n-p (prompt) "Ask user a \"y or n\" question. Return t if answer is \"y\". Takes one argument, which is the string to display to ask the question. It should end in a space; `y-or-n-p' adds `(y or n) ' to it. No confirmation of answer is requested; a single character is enough. Also accepts SPC to mean yes, or DEL to mean no." (if (> (minibuffer-depth) 0) (1on1-ORIG-y-or-n-p prompt) (1on1-color-minibuffer-frame-on-setup) (prog1 (1on1-ORIG-y-or-n-p prompt) (1on1-color-minibuffer-frame-on-exit)))) (or (fboundp '1on1-ORIG-top-level) (fset '1on1-ORIG-top-level (symbol-function 'top-level))) (defun top-level () "Exit all recursive editing levels." (interactive) (1on1-color-minibuffer-frame-on-exit) (1on1-ORIG-top-level)) ...) In Emacs prior to Emacs 23, `C-h f' did not point to the wrong files as having defined these function. At least it did not lie and steer you wrong. Emacs 23.4 did not point to the wrong file for `y-or-n-p', but it did point to the wrong file for `top-level'. Emacs 24.1 gets them both wrong. It simply gives the original location (from emacs -Q) for each of them: `C source code' for `top-level' and `subr.el' for `y-or-n-p'. This is not good. Better to say "no idea" than to mislead the user this way. Instead of improving locating function definitions, things have gotten worse. In GNU Emacs 24.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-06-10 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 16 19:37:03 2012 Received: (at 12149) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2012 23:37:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37660 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDOOc-0005Uq-OK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:37:03 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:39265) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDOOa-0005UN-U0 for 12149@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:37:01 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q8GNZm5g026701 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <12149@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:35:49 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8GNZmJh008642 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <12149@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:35:48 GMT Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q8GNZmEJ004617 for <12149@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:35:48 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.170.142) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:35:47 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: <12149@debbugs.gnu.org> References: <28819A29BB374779AEEA60B7FF63A25B@us.oracle.com> Subject: RE: bug#12149: 24.1; `C-h f' is worse and worse at telling where a function was defined Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:35:37 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <28819A29BB374779AEEA60B7FF63A25B@us.oracle.com> Thread-Index: Ac1z+8ugNDNInFAtRSmcSpG68Rcx4AgaCktQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12149 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) ping From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 12:20:20 2016 Received: (at 12149) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 16:20:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53389 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avofs-0001mk-GW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:20:20 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:60319) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avofq-0001mc-BQ for 12149@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:20:19 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avofn-0004pM-S3; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 18:20:17 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#12149: 24.1; `C-h f' is worse and worse at telling where a function was defined References: <28819A29BB374779AEEA60B7FF63A25B@us.oracle.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 18:20:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: <28819A29BB374779AEEA60B7FF63A25B@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 6 Aug 2012 10:49:15 -0700") Message-ID: <87a8kd903l.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12149 Cc: 12149@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" writes: > In Emacs prior to Emacs 23, `C-h f' did not point to the wrong files > as having defined these function. At least it did not lie and steer > you wrong. > > Emacs 23.4 did not point to the wrong file for `y-or-n-p', but it did > point to the wrong file for `top-level'. > > Emacs 24.1 gets them both wrong. It simply gives the original location > (from emacs -Q) for each of them: `C source code' for `top-level' and > `subr.el' for `y-or-n-p'. This is not good. Better to say "no idea" > than to mislead the user this way. (progn (defun yes-or-no-p (prompt) (y-or-n-p prompt)) (describe-function 'yes-or-no-p)) => yes-or-no-p is a Lisp function. (yes-or-no-p PROMPT) Not documented. So I seem to be unable to reproduce this bug. Are you still seeing it? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 12:34:50 2016 Received: (at 12149) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 16:34:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53406 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avotu-0003nG-FC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:34:50 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:20561) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avott-0003n1-5o for 12149@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:34:49 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u3SGYgOR014208 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 16:34:43 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3SGYgIh031640 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 16:34:42 GMT Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3SGYe5q003543; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 16:34:41 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:34:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: RE: bug#12149: 24.1; `C-h f' is worse and worse at telling where a function was defined References: <28819A29BB374779AEEA60B7FF63A25B@us.oracle.com> <87a8kd903l.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87a8kd903l.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12149 Cc: 12149@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Whatever. Lots of users mention that `C-h f' is worse and worse at telling where a function was defined. Closing the bug won't change that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 17:31:53 2016 Received: (at 12149) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 21:31:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53605 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avtXM-0002Hr-Tl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:31:53 -0400 Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be ([164.15.128.112]:8518) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avtXK-0002Hg-Ta for 12149@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:31:51 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqsEAOmAIlekD4Xx/2dsb2JhbABegmeCIYJzuHKGDwKBcgEBAQEBAWYnhEIBAQMBbgsFCwgDISUPAQRJExWIDQi/b4QHAQEBAQYBAQEBHIYhhEuKEwEEmBCXQ4VljzBiggUbFoE3OjCHaAEBAQ Received: from mathsrv4.ulb.ac.be (HELO localhost) ([164.15.133.241]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 28 Apr 2016 23:31:38 +0200 From: Nicolas Richard To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#12149: 24.1; `C-h f' is worse and worse at telling where a function was defined References: <28819A29BB374779AEEA60B7FF63A25B@us.oracle.com> <87a8kd903l.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 23:31:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:34:39 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <874malv2ri.fsf@ulb.ac.be> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12149 Cc: 12149@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Drew Adams writes: > Whatever. > > Lots of users mention that `C-h f' is worse and worse at telling > where a function was defined. Closing the bug won't change that. You report a bug, someone says they can't reproduce and asks if you still see it, and this is your answer ? Perhaps this is a case of culture clash, perhaps I see problems where there are none, but atm I'm really wondering why you are acting so negatively. I guess the answer lies somewhere within the many years of archives of the various emacs-related mailing lists, but to the young ignorant eye (like mine), your answers oftentimes... look really weird. I'm aware this message is pretty much out of the topic, so feel free (of course) to ignore or respond privately if you like. Anyway, back to the topic, I tried loading a file test.el with content: (defun do-silly-things nil (defun scroll-up (&optional arg) "Do nothing and pretend all is fine." t)) (provide 'test) then run "emacs -Q -l test -f do-silly-things" and finally describe the function scroll-up. The result was that emacs did not tell where the function is defined, only that it's a Lisp function/closure. i.e. this matches what Lars said. -- Nicolas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 29 16:23:35 2016 Received: (at 12149) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 20:23:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55924 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awEwp-0003et-83 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:23:35 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:50410) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awEwn-0003el-RH for 12149@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:23:34 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awEwk-0002TX-Bg; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:23:32 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Nicolas Richard Subject: Re: bug#12149: 24.1; `C-h f' is worse and worse at telling where a function was defined References: <28819A29BB374779AEEA60B7FF63A25B@us.oracle.com> <87a8kd903l.fsf@gnus.org> <874malv2ri.fsf@ulb.ac.be> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:23:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: <874malv2ri.fsf@ulb.ac.be> (Nicolas Richard's message of "Thu, 28 Apr 2016 23:31:45 +0200") Message-ID: <87a8kcuptq.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12149 Cc: 12149@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Nicolas Richard writes: > Anyway, back to the topic, I tried loading a file test.el with content: > > (defun do-silly-things nil > (defun scroll-up (&optional arg) > "Do nothing and pretend all is fine." > t)) > > (provide 'test) > > then run "emacs -Q -l test -f do-silly-things" and finally describe the > function scroll-up. The result was that emacs did not tell where the > function is defined, only that it's a Lisp function/closure. i.e. this > matches what Lars said. Thanks for checking, Nicolas. This has probably been fixed after Drew's bug report. Closing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 29 16:23:45 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 20:23:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55927 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awEwz-0003fI-H4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:23:45 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:50418) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awEwx-0003fA-MP for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:23:43 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1awEwv-0002Th-IJ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:23:43 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:23:41 +0200 Message-Id: <878tzwupte.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #12149 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 12149 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:44:38 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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