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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) This bug report will be sent to the Bug-GNU-Emacs mailing list and the GNU bug tracker at debbugs.gnu.org. Please check that the From: line contains a valid email address. After a delay of up to one day, you should receive an acknowledgment at that address. Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators for other languages. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': I am getting the following warning: Warning: `labels' is an obsolete function (as of 24.2); use `cl-labels' instead. Annoyingly it pops up a buffer called *Compile Log* which pollutes my emacs frame. I feel it should go to *Message*. If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file /home/ubuntu/emacs-bzr/share/emacs/24.1.50/etc/DEBUG. In GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.22.0) of 2012-08-02 on tao Bzr revision: 109392 rgm@gnu.org-20120802064717-7my9ti5ms22zo998 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10900000 Configured using: `configure '--prefix=/home/ubuntu/emacs-bzr' 'CFLAGS=-g'' Important settings: locale-coding-system: nil default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Org Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t icomplete-mode: t recentf-mode: t display-time-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t auto-fill-function: org-auto-fill-function abbrev-mode: t Recent input: C-n C-n S a l u t SPC I r i s , Q ' E s t - c e SPC q u ' SPC i l SPC y SPC u a u SPC u n e SPC l i a s i s o n SPC b u s t SPC o u SPC o u t SPC SPC r t r a i n SPC e n t r e SPC m o n t r e M o n t r e a l SPC e t SPC Q u e b e c ? C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b ' e C-a I l SPC n ' SPC y SPC a SPC p a s SPC d e SPC v o l SPC d i r e c t SPC P a r i s SPC Q u e b e c ' e b e c . SPC M-q C-a I m SPC e l SPC m e s SPC s SPC s e m b l e SPC q u ' SPC M-l M-q C-n C-p C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f - SPC C-n C-e B i s o u s , I v a n C-n C-n C-a C-k C-k C-k C-c C-c y i C-o C-a C-n C-n M-w C-o M-x C-g C-x m M-k M-k M-x r e p o r t b u g Recent messages: Sending via mail... Sending email Sending email done Mark set Wrote /home/ubuntu/stat/gnus/mail/sent/14514 Sending...done Quit Mark set Ispell process killed Starting new Ispell process [aspell::default] ... 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<87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lbe83-2-78-243-104-167.fbx.proxad.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+c8aHY6BNwn5KEV9XtcOEmKdVHc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Ivan Kanis writes: > I am getting the following warning: > > Warning: `labels' is an obsolete function (as of 24.2); use `cl-labels' > instead. > > Annoyingly it pops up a buffer called *Compile Log* which pollutes my > emacs frame. I feel it should go to *Message*. Why instead of keeping old definitions of labels and flet don't we use aliases for cl-flet/labels (among others)? It would also fix a problem of compatibility of compiled files between 24.1 and 24.2.(All files containing flet or labels need recompilation). -- Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 03 06:00:17 2012 Received: (at 12124) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Aug 2012 10:00:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58311 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SxEg4-0002ig-RE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 06:00:17 -0400 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:34527) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SxEg2-0002ia-V1 for 12124@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 06:00:15 -0400 Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q739qbD9014123; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 05:52:38 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 29CC9AE2F8; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 05:52:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#12124: 24.1.50; warning pollution Message-ID: References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 05:52:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:50:59 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4298=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4298> : streams <793913> : uri <1182674> X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: 12124@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) > Why instead of keeping old definitions of labels and flet don't we use > aliases for cl-flet/labels (among others)? Because they do not do the same (almost, but not quite). > It would also fix a problem of compatibility of compiled files between > 24.1 and 24.2.(All files containing flet or labels need recompilation). That's news to me: these macros should return code that's independent from CL, so they should not require recompilation. Please report with details. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 03 06:45:17 2012 Received: (at 12124) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Aug 2012 10:45:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58344 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SxFNX-0003nh-NJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 06:45:16 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:39350) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SxFNP-0003mm-W5 for 12124@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 06:45:08 -0400 Received: by wgbdq10 with SMTP id dq10so385309wgb.15 for <12124@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 03:37:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=ck6a2mfa3Hq6CHrOcE+AU0PPxHayBreanGETQkNZkOA=; b=0ypiiioT5CnaVWFFFDzm6d4Mb0tFKPWArhCjI9xvtWIfeVnf9a0O9A/ukYaZyHIMUn 85MfiWBOrfEl/mOeVgA1+mLM3pT+B56NJom3CWAHesttOtUsMyUFdvlHAb47bsGTX+7M hRGZN7rf29iKCa4UGEf2mu+Fz8mONRA4xCpa0D1KbGNm5bdiMemYvGjetqfeRqVD4Odm tzZVsLf8wfTlb+uNPpZTVx6QOWhxBxIZgbvXNH0PBC04D3KbHjqWl/P8vd/sYnD/lFfh Zfwn52y0nFAhSNWJ13vXyreut+wZYDQWVhG6epEO/K52BaHY6gVXRLSa8EVrqfjnGC2e EzqA== Received: by 10.216.93.6 with SMTP id k6mr723968wef.86.1343990247876; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 03:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thierry-MM061 (lbe83-2-78-243-104-167.fbx.proxad.net. [78.243.104.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bc2sm24886914wib.0.2012.08.03.03.37.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 03 Aug 2012 03:37:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#12124: 24.1.50; warning pollution References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 12:37:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 03 Aug 2012 05:52:37 -0400") Message-ID: <87fw849s81.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: 12124@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Stefan Monnier writes: >> Why instead of keeping old definitions of labels and flet don't we use >> aliases for cl-flet/labels (among others)? > > Because they do not do the same (almost, but not quite). But the warnings say to use cl-flet/labels instead, so it should works as expected, what is the difference? >> It would also fix a problem of compatibility of compiled files between >> 24.1 and 24.2.(All files containing flet or labels need recompilation). > > That's news to me: these macros should return code that's independent > from CL, so they should not require recompilation. > Please report with details. It seems that a simple form of flet works without recompiling, but a more complex form with a let* inside the flet clause seems to fail silently. (not only maybe, but conjunction of other things) You can try with helm: install it and byte compile it. Do M-x helm-M-x and type some commands. You should have completion on your command. Now switch to another emacs and run the same command: It is not working, no completion. So it is not the flet itself that doesn't work but the function that is called inside this flet clause. recompile with this emacs and restart emacs. It is working. You can find the code of helm-M-x in helm-command.el. NOTE: it use local var byte-compile-dynamic. -- Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 03 19:27:55 2012 Received: (at 12124) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Aug 2012 23:27:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60181 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SxRHe-00079W-MA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:27:55 -0400 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:48058) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SxRHc-00079P-Iv for 12124@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:27:53 -0400 Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q73NKCPD017272; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 19:20:13 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E5971AE2F8; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 19:20:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#12124: 24.1.50; warning pollution Message-ID: References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> <87fw849s81.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:20:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87fw849s81.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Fri, 03 Aug 2012 12:37:18 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4299=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4299> : streams <794142> : uri <1183261> X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: 12124@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) >>> Why instead of keeping old definitions of labels and flet don't we use >>> aliases for cl-flet/labels (among others)? >> Because they do not do the same (almost, but not quite). > But the warnings say to use cl-flet/labels instead, so it should works > as expected, what is the difference? Warnings about obsolete features just point to the replacement feature, but in many/most cases a human needs to adjust the code accordingly. Some of the differences are that `labels' defines lexically-scoped vars which can be captured in closures using the lexical-let machinery, whereas `cl-labels' relies on lexical-binding to get the same effect, so the vars won't get captured if the file doesn't use lexical-binding. `flet' does something vaguely related to common-lisp's `flet' but in a very different way (basically with dynamic scoping rather than lexical scoping). `cl-flet' works like common-lisp's `flet'. As you know, lexical and dynamic scoping often can be used interchangeably, but not always. > You can try with helm: > install it and byte compile it. > Do M-x helm-M-x and type some commands. > You should have completion on your command. > Now switch to another emacs and run the same command: > It is not working, no completion. > So it is not the flet itself that doesn't work but the function that is > called inside this flet clause. > recompile with this emacs and restart emacs. > It is working. Please make a separate bug-report for that. And please give a more detailed recipe (especially regarding the "install it, byte compile it and do M-x ..." where it's not clear where and how "emacs" is started). Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 04 00:23:34 2012 Received: (at 12124) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2012 04:23:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60442 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SxVtl-0005Qi-WC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 00:23:34 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com ([209.85.212.180]:60189) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SxVtj-0005Qa-1C for 12124@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Aug 2012 00:23:32 -0400 Received: by wibhm6 with SMTP id hm6so87565wib.15 for <12124@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:15:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=YmM2V4qpGpcC0WlscUZn2Bw4ZK02+fhymwDbWn02tpc=; b=wZ8xS+AR3UtFZDHKhZLD6830a2MtRyiLS7laM1rhMuN/LdKzSnt7EmFt5vF/UyQRsf d1K7h1Ore23d4brHkNcxftYaU0hc+o2Ilav9BeAbl27iEdKUrxx5mD72qwHQ9R18QbS3 NxD/qCClZcgjCVvwrW9krdKYoghHyClJvdEUXl3wrh3svKzwzyt15PPc9BhoSUSPvreD JIEfj3n35G6utoVRE2VM0KA6Z71KffZQhZTbb/x/rPHgoZp5QrSozK0Uxz7sqEBwC+SB CqlFrTgkjpL6hcv2P+9Y65CILbQJ5ENPOWb99YNEOw5BOgnm3uCZP8LzQle0rUp76/BP Wluw== Received: by 10.180.78.170 with SMTP id c10mr1663786wix.3.1344053750741; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thierry-MM061 (lbe83-2-78-243-104-167.fbx.proxad.net. [78.243.104.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b7sm1521308wiz.9.2012.08.03.21.15.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 03 Aug 2012 21:15:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#12124: 24.1.50; warning pollution References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> <87fw849s81.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 06:15:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:20:11 -0400") Message-ID: <877gtfb8d2.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: 12124@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Stefan Monnier writes: >>>> Why instead of keeping old definitions of labels and flet don't we use >>>> aliases for cl-flet/labels (among others)? >>> Because they do not do the same (almost, but not quite). >> But the warnings say to use cl-flet/labels instead, so it should works >> as expected, what is the difference? > > Warnings about obsolete features just point to the replacement feature, > but in many/most cases a human needs to adjust the code accordingly. > > Some of the differences are that `labels' defines lexically-scoped vars > which can be captured in closures using the lexical-let machinery, > whereas `cl-labels' relies on lexical-binding to get the same effect, so > the vars won't get captured if the file doesn't use lexical-binding. > > `flet' does something vaguely related to common-lisp's `flet' but in > a very different way (basically with dynamic scoping rather than > lexical scoping). `cl-flet' works like common-lisp's `flet'. As you > know, lexical and dynamic scoping often can be used interchangeably, but > not always. Ok that's clear, thanks. >> You can try with helm: >> install it and byte compile it. >> Do M-x helm-M-x and type some commands. >> You should have completion on your command. > >> Now switch to another emacs and run the same command: >> It is not working, no completion. >> So it is not the flet itself that doesn't work but the function that is >> called inside this flet clause. >> recompile with this emacs and restart emacs. >> It is working. > > Please make a separate bug-report for that. And please give a more > detailed recipe (especially regarding the "install it, byte compile it > and do M-x ..." where it's not clear where and how "emacs" is started). Ok will do that today, thanks. -- Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 05 04:34:31 2012 Received: (at 12124) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2012 08:34:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34569 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SxwI8-0006ul-67 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 04:34:30 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com ([74.125.82.42]:39278) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SxwI5-0006ud-QG for 12124@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 04:34:27 -0400 Received: by wgbfm10 with SMTP id fm10so687860wgb.3 for <12124@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 01:26:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:face :x-hashcash:x-hashcash:x-hashcash:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=Ml3YhWYSHD4JHZjumg/ONIk3BpjmxChnE8FeFQjdA3U=; b=AqtnXAfiPLbobc2K9LhsDmVnBRl/bdY1Cvp9qPA7A+92x1tFgCvoZkTLpSQV7x6+zf cCKKZS7RzwII3KyVi7PDOLu2ovdY5w4jDOoczh5HWUuM8gLFwlQGwWwBW5R5lmhcU8gk pvSHB7wf8B3yFMAWxwFyIw9cVwLXOclB+0NMKmqpvlW1LN/ou6/N1Ofl98gi7C91IzX1 y2b8z5g43ODghCMWXWxhnjX1q3CEdViExPCR8SIbwz+YuQCU8zwT6jTa1EfK9/11VlqS lXsODW44CQSl+WukZfDGymy6TodGjuQuubaERUFXXs/4ArVCPx1XDzoWBGYyVRINXNP5 UP0A== Received: by 10.216.101.1 with SMTP id a1mr3474586weg.216.1344155197441; Sun, 05 Aug 2012 01:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tao ([89.83.137.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q4sm8117683wix.9.2012.08.05.01.26.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 05 Aug 2012 01:26:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Ivan Kanis To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#12124: 24.1.50; warning pollution In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 03 Aug 2012 05:52:37 -0400") References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAAB5QTFRF IBkXUxMTOCwoTC4qcUY8iFxQmmper31txpaJ/v/8aKZ1oAAAAcVJREFUOMt100tu2zAQAFDCXnUZ oAcIqG68LZULVLQBbwuSiffm6AIRRyeotAySJoVu2+FPpJWWC3/4NKOZocSW/yxWfnJ2+Bdwzhj7 8gleWVy7DXC2rkMNr2V/zRbghXIwthf3VbIA9Ffc71vZCSFyCEsBggtNS8ludwvfmhYA0Vn9o4DP zMWxR7+cPWzAYFzwM0ModtdmcDbDS6i/hT7L+RZof5yCXGrYe5jn2YO6BYMjgY+51tCIAqHgBLwR pwLnGuRjAKyBJkuN4yd4U92uCY1vUr2D/c5b8DuxyQwfOHUeaLqDJhnkkuGXbB56h2C1IVBdgncc bBi6feroa9B6jUDojnQPQKupbyXyeeCE1oT7Oqrt+SnfY3mkiyGA/3AmD3H5g32CcBx6hY8pRkwJ 9PpcjRGobUfprFnhAa1vepwcgMOhwG+pdSgKHFU9HAvoAH6XUl7lDUCCq5Qb6GMbVm3Aj++qDYCt wdBc/YHgOFCmS3mjDMRcSE2qY4E3Q3PVIQRQmeodNH4QEbRUFZzW+VotzwX4yTcRTySOML1qjcE5 hTirVqDHkMAP0PjAywp3d18JZtqzvr9zDYD+GaSKtE6Zlr/DLPNFmOcvBAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Hashcash: 1:20:120805:thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com::5DM1Z5cljg2yfGta:00000000000000000000000000000000000cqE X-Hashcash: 1:20:120805:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca::7a5GU4oJYSgOGKWK:00000000000000000000000000000000000001Qlw X-Hashcash: 1:20:120805:12124@debbugs.gnu.org::iLYJ6QaQiPDb61Z9:00000000000000000000000000000000000000003BqF Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:26:28 +0200 Message-ID: <87lihtn3rf.fsf@kanis.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: 12124@debbugs.gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Why instead of keeping old definitions of labels and flet don't we use >> aliases for cl-flet/labels (among others)? > > Because they do not do the same (almost, but not quite). I think that the buffer *Compile Log* shouldn't pop up. It should behave like *Message*. The problem is in emacs-w3m. It annoys me for mundane task such as reading mail or catching up news in newsticker. -- Ivan Kanis http://ivan.kanis.fr The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion ... but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do. -- Samuel Huntington From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 06 06:43:40 2012 Received: (at 12124) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2012 10:43:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36792 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SyKme-000093-2e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 06:43:40 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:62564) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SyKmY-00008s-Ez for 12124@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 06:43:34 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09Ld/QI/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSQth28FugmLIYUjA6MzgViDBYFD X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="195033681" Received: from 75-119-244-8.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.244.8]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 06 Aug 2012 06:35:37 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id AD8AA59355; Mon, 6 Aug 2012 06:35:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Ivan Kanis Subject: Re: bug#12124: 24.1.50; warning pollution Message-ID: References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> <87lihtn3rf.fsf@kanis.fr> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 06:35:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87lihtn3rf.fsf@kanis.fr> (Ivan Kanis's message of "Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:26:28 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: 12124@debbugs.gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) >>> Why instead of keeping old definitions of labels and flet don't we use >>> aliases for cl-flet/labels (among others)? >> Because they do not do the same (almost, but not quite). > I think that the buffer *Compile Log* shouldn't pop up. It should behave > like *Message*. I think you're right that in such a use-case it shouldn't pop up, although in the usual byte-compilation case it should. > The problem is in emacs-w3m. It annoys me for mundane > task such as reading mail or catching up news in newsticker. But it's also the case that emacs-w3m probably shouldn't byte-compile code at run-time. Can you try and figure out which it does that? Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 11 10:40:14 2012 Received: (at 12124) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Aug 2012 14:40:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49479 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0CrO-0000vv-8l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:40:14 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:32956) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0CrL-0000vm-Ou for 12124@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:40:12 -0400 Received: by wgbdq10 with SMTP id dq10so1896601wgb.15 for <12124@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:31:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:face:x-hashcash:x-hashcash:x-hashcash :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=6OLVZbQIPOzq1CdNdosTN6FKev9/qqWlB7/whJUrf9M=; b=s0C0hpZP2bCxHwVXphNUBl/1JSYUVtpbwChGKGb/+fLd+zgZJ+1POl7vc9fyZnaDVW FG4l2jCBPemCr/hPhBGa77RhxLnzIotKB9h6BhwuPLSqsvXvAfwyJSrFZmC73QOSt1aT ndLL1dgAeftE1SP0eeuHIpa7uWKwROBMK1b5uvDHf4kJYkgXLJu0IWbuKalbxZTZ0acW VWT7ezbZ2Q5qzlQOiJ20FNQb3tOZhRkws/6hAnXBT30j+wFUIiNNUUww1v0lTH2Aquzd mFXdlojWi0jiyeR7ZYIj68O5nCwFweFt5UiW3ItPugElx9jQHkCzzffuBKMk6Rk+r6jf xyVQ== Received: by 10.216.3.85 with SMTP id 63mr3023209weg.134.1344695509621; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tao ([89.83.137.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fb20sm6322967wid.1.2012.08.11.07.31.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:31:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Ivan Kanis To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#12124: 24.1.50; warning pollution References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> <87lihtn3rf.fsf@kanis.fr> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAAB5QTFRF IBkXUxMTOCwoTC4qcUY8iFxQmmper31txpaJ/v/8aKZ1oAAAAcVJREFUOMt100tu2zAQAFDCXnUZ oAcIqG68LZULVLQBbwuSiffm6AIRRyeotAySJoVu2+FPpJWWC3/4NKOZocSW/yxWfnJ2+Bdwzhj7 8gleWVy7DXC2rkMNr2V/zRbghXIwthf3VbIA9Ffc71vZCSFyCEsBggtNS8ludwvfmhYA0Vn9o4DP zMWxR7+cPWzAYFzwM0ModtdmcDbDS6i/hT7L+RZof5yCXGrYe5jn2YO6BYMjgY+51tCIAqHgBLwR pwLnGuRjAKyBJkuN4yd4U92uCY1vUr2D/c5b8DuxyQwfOHUeaLqDJhnkkuGXbB56h2C1IVBdgncc bBi6feroa9B6jUDojnQPQKupbyXyeeCE1oT7Oqrt+SnfY3mkiyGA/3AmD3H5g32CcBx6hY8pRkwJ 9PpcjRGobUfprFnhAa1vepwcgMOhwG+pdSgKHFU9HAvoAH6XUl7lDUCCq5Qb6GMbVm3Aj++qDYCt wdBc/YHgOFCmS3mjDMRcSE2qY4E3Q3PVIQRQmeodNH4QEbRUFZzW+VotzwX4yTcRTySOML1qjcE5 hTirVqDHkMAP0PjAywp3d18JZtqzvr9zDYD+GaSKtE6Zlr/DLPNFmOcvBAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Hashcash: 1:20:120811:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca::bwW+jiZgEBO3CxoJ:00000000000000000000000000000000000000YBG X-Hashcash: 1:20:120811:12124@debbugs.gnu.org::IAe/bDYOiGDb2NwI:00000000000000000000000000000000000000005Ot0 X-Hashcash: 1:20:120811:thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com::QSuBclSHIgINYILC:00000000000000000000000000000000008KRd Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:31:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 06 Aug 2012 06:35:34 -0400") Message-ID: <87zk61qz3h.fsf@googlemail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: 12124@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-w3m@namazu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>> Why instead of keeping old definitions of labels and flet don't we use >>>> aliases for cl-flet/labels (among others)? >>> Because they do not do the same (almost, but not quite). > >> The problem is in emacs-w3m. It annoys me for mundane >> task such as reading mail or catching up news in newsticker. > > But it's also the case that emacs-w3m probably shouldn't byte-compile > code at run-time. Can you try and figure out which it does that? I synced with CVS emacs-w3m and the error went away. I saw that label got replaced with w3m-label which I think is a sign they took care of the error. There are a few files where the function byte-compile is called: w3m, w3m-ems, w3m-proc. They probably should not do that. -- Ivan Kanis http://ivan.kanis.fr The average American 10-year old recognizes less than three species of tree but more than 150 different corporate logos. -- Anonymous, Harper's Index From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 11 10:41:07 2012 Received: (at 12124) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Aug 2012 14:41:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49483 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0CsE-0000xJ-Oz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:41:06 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]:45172) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0CsD-0000xB-0A for 12124@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:41:05 -0400 Received: by weyu54 with SMTP id u54so1627869wey.3 for <12124@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:32:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:face:x-hashcash:x-hashcash:x-hashcash :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=UkvxV6VEJLjbscqvVrJlDKLPZ3JPojdQNvoHy6jGfiM=; b=qqt2sS7U/jEMcfbkehCXL83O4OeZe1kW1mR67DTxwalS72nnmCfKs4kDZKrtOjfLYY UqojVLkbx7qvithG/a/Zu9ra7tUcllX4/oVyq7I89NkMJqZraCQN68Vi8ZlKTstt5kHp haIvmM/iaiRdh/pv0427eQvPSMjYEbM37O6ELmoSBAjm8PI/kEqlsOhoII2BvPgXM2em 9hL4onIcd+ignGjEQg34W4Wl01wBG0T3sUQUNrbDOfLpjwQz9+Z3c57LHxk7Zgcqp5lZ 85KFMQPla2fZu8WQ9MH/BDllWBkXPUhdt3pCxV+Sx4kz4gSlz2bHeXIQnfuCYMYaV2MG UUlQ== Received: by 10.180.74.33 with SMTP id q1mr4238498wiv.4.1344695562971; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tao ([89.83.137.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cl8sm4399593wib.10.2012.08.11.07.32.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 11 Aug 2012 07:32:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Ivan Kanis To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#12124: 24.1.50; warning pollution References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> <87lihtn3rf.fsf@kanis.fr> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAAB5QTFRF IBkXUxMTOCwoTC4qcUY8iFxQmmper31txpaJ/v/8aKZ1oAAAAcVJREFUOMt100tu2zAQAFDCXnUZ oAcIqG68LZULVLQBbwuSiffm6AIRRyeotAySJoVu2+FPpJWWC3/4NKOZocSW/yxWfnJ2+Bdwzhj7 8gleWVy7DXC2rkMNr2V/zRbghXIwthf3VbIA9Ffc71vZCSFyCEsBggtNS8ludwvfmhYA0Vn9o4DP zMWxR7+cPWzAYFzwM0ModtdmcDbDS6i/hT7L+RZof5yCXGrYe5jn2YO6BYMjgY+51tCIAqHgBLwR pwLnGuRjAKyBJkuN4yd4U92uCY1vUr2D/c5b8DuxyQwfOHUeaLqDJhnkkuGXbB56h2C1IVBdgncc bBi6feroa9B6jUDojnQPQKupbyXyeeCE1oT7Oqrt+SnfY3mkiyGA/3AmD3H5g32CcBx6hY8pRkwJ 9PpcjRGobUfprFnhAa1vepwcgMOhwG+pdSgKHFU9HAvoAH6XUl7lDUCCq5Qb6GMbVm3Aj++qDYCt wdBc/YHgOFCmS3mjDMRcSE2qY4E3Q3PVIQRQmeodNH4QEbRUFZzW+VotzwX4yTcRTySOML1qjcE5 hTirVqDHkMAP0PjAywp3d18JZtqzvr9zDYD+GaSKtE6Zlr/DLPNFmOcvBAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Hashcash: 1:20:120811:thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com::mu2fQ8xuinKZcI0v:00000000000000000000000000000000001NCo X-Hashcash: 1:20:120811:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca::t40GnE9zFAdOBPdi:0000000000000000000000000000000000000EYNy X-Hashcash: 1:20:120811:12124@debbugs.gnu.org::jXHrcfAWVSgTmbkC:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000IIGS Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:32:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 06 Aug 2012 06:35:34 -0400") Message-ID: <87sjbtqz1y.fsf@googlemail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: 12124@debbugs.gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I think that the buffer *Compile Log* shouldn't pop up. It should behave >> like *Message*. > > I think you're right that in such a use-case it shouldn't pop up, Is there a possibility to remove the pop up? -- Ivan Kanis http://ivan.kanis.fr To live is so startling it leaves little time for anything else. -- Emily Dickinson From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 11 11:37:41 2012 Received: (at 12124) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Aug 2012 15:37:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49594 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0Dkz-0002IO-IV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:37:41 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:26104) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0Dky-0002II-Qi for 12124@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:37:41 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu0+4rw0x/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIHAW6CZBEA6MzgViDBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="195491090" Received: from 184-175-13-49.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([184.175.13.49]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 11 Aug 2012 11:29:18 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 74AA159305; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:29:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Ivan Kanis Subject: Re: bug#12124: 24.1.50; warning pollution Message-ID: References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> <87lihtn3rf.fsf@kanis.fr> <87zk61qz3h.fsf@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:29:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87zk61qz3h.fsf@googlemail.com> (Ivan Kanis's message of "Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:31:46 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: 12124@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-w3m@namazu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > the error. There are a few files where the function byte-compile is > called: w3m, w3m-ems, w3m-proc. They probably should not do that. It's not necessarily bad or wrong, tho it's a bit like `eval' in the sense that it's a sign that the code might benefit from a redesign. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 11 11:38:28 2012 Received: (at 12124) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Aug 2012 15:38:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49598 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0Dlj-0002Jh-Rg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:38:28 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:23116) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0Dlh-0002JZ-6H for 12124@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:38:25 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu0+4rw0x/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNJIgcBboJkEQDozOBWIMF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="195491114" Received: from 184-175-13-49.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([184.175.13.49]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 11 Aug 2012 11:30:03 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id CCF9E59305; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:30:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Ivan Kanis Subject: Re: bug#12124: 24.1.50; warning pollution Message-ID: References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> <87lihtn3rf.fsf@kanis.fr> <87sjbtqz1y.fsf@googlemail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:30:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87sjbtqz1y.fsf@googlemail.com> (Ivan Kanis's message of "Sat, 11 Aug 2012 16:32:41 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: 12124@debbugs.gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) >>> I think that the buffer *Compile Log* shouldn't pop up. It should behave >>> like *Message*. >> I think you're right that in such a use-case it shouldn't pop up, > Is there a possibility to remove the pop up? We'd have to distinguish the cases where we do want to popup from the other cases. Patch welcome, Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 12 04:35:13 2012 Received: (at 12124) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Aug 2012 08:35:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50560 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0Tdg-0002P3-CH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 04:35:12 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com ([209.85.212.180]:51968) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0Tdc-0002Ou-5I for 12124@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 04:35:10 -0400 Received: by wibhm6 with SMTP id hm6so2045113wib.15 for <12124@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 01:26:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:face:x-hashcash:x-hashcash:x-hashcash :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=zX+eraxOXgv/Ah5tb7dXC2KG67ChqSWtx/aFvm6QIaQ=; b=KG3Wk3BOOUF1tYBJldVul0EcLB7vy6ekKHSJ7RshatC7DkNo4MAArwSJ2b9T9b/nSu rVrglMbes8BRMWicigjBbzbT/L4ayaY58V2f66WqqsBlBuOz3ovDOpQjKkSCOCVAB7IZ 97ElZcDJK3v7AVNZjw6VDcVsqcW9TqGSNIDwC85s5e07CKWLunNk4df3zbeoEfUulBy5 AJjUmaRnpcEwA/VgHIctQk3ZBaQdPJwtNufjFzxGfFVfI3f23TIPJFflSWhVLb7TGERA e9mjNNipyi+qWfmLGieaQpJupCXbxpG342BEDKvw3/KMFCKRGZBknAXCd7azV6HVs6xi 6mmQ== Received: by 10.180.109.166 with SMTP id ht6mr9192235wib.11.1344760001589; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 01:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tao ([89.83.137.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cl8sm8841053wib.10.2012.08.12.01.26.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 12 Aug 2012 01:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ivan Kanis To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#12124: 24.1.50; warning pollution References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> <87lihtn3rf.fsf@kanis.fr> <87sjbtqz1y.fsf@googlemail.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAAB5QTFRF IBkXUxMTOCwoTC4qcUY8iFxQmmper31txpaJ/v/8aKZ1oAAAAcVJREFUOMt100tu2zAQAFDCXnUZ oAcIqG68LZULVLQBbwuSiffm6AIRRyeotAySJoVu2+FPpJWWC3/4NKOZocSW/yxWfnJ2+Bdwzhj7 8gleWVy7DXC2rkMNr2V/zRbghXIwthf3VbIA9Ffc71vZCSFyCEsBggtNS8ludwvfmhYA0Vn9o4DP zMWxR7+cPWzAYFzwM0ModtdmcDbDS6i/hT7L+RZof5yCXGrYe5jn2YO6BYMjgY+51tCIAqHgBLwR pwLnGuRjAKyBJkuN4yd4U92uCY1vUr2D/c5b8DuxyQwfOHUeaLqDJhnkkuGXbB56h2C1IVBdgncc bBi6feroa9B6jUDojnQPQKupbyXyeeCE1oT7Oqrt+SnfY3mkiyGA/3AmD3H5g32CcBx6hY8pRkwJ 9PpcjRGobUfprFnhAa1vepwcgMOhwG+pdSgKHFU9HAvoAH6XUl7lDUCCq5Qb6GMbVm3Aj++qDYCt wdBc/YHgOFCmS3mjDMRcSE2qY4E3Q3PVIQRQmeodNH4QEbRUFZzW+VotzwX4yTcRTySOML1qjcE5 hTirVqDHkMAP0PjAywp3d18JZtqzvr9zDYD+GaSKtE6Zlr/DLPNFmOcvBAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Hashcash: 1:20:120812:12124@debbugs.gnu.org::RttfLt1vhZhbfhDa:00000000000000000000000000000000000000002560 X-Hashcash: 1:20:120812:thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com::cEWMewCtANXe6EiZ:00000000000000000000000000000000002o7b X-Hashcash: 1:20:120812:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca::/EhssXl+JPB2Sm+H:00000000000000000000000000000000000009gIY Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 10:26:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 11 Aug 2012 11:30:02 -0400") Message-ID: <874no8tt1h.fsf@googlemail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: 12124@debbugs.gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>> I think that the buffer *Compile Log* shouldn't pop up. It should behave >>>> like *Message*. >>> I think you're right that in such a use-case it shouldn't pop up, >> Is there a possibility to remove the pop up? > > We'd have to distinguish the cases where we do want to popup from the > other cases. Patch welcome, What do you have in mind when we should popup? -- Ivan Kanis http://ivan.kanis.fr There is a land of the living and a land of the dead and the bridge is love, the only survival, the only meaning. -- Thornton Wilder From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 12 12:52:56 2012 Received: (at 12124) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Aug 2012 16:52:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51532 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0bPL-00074H-QE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:52:55 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:2826) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0bPJ-000749-FN for 12124@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:52:53 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAG6Zu09MCqXx/2dsb2JhbABEsEiDSYEIghUBAQQBViMFCws0EhQYDSSIHAW6CZBEA6MzgViDBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="195529311" Received: from 76-10-165-241.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.165.241]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 12 Aug 2012 12:44:24 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id CEF4E59305; Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:44:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Ivan Kanis Subject: Re: bug#12124: 24.1.50; warning pollution Message-ID: References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> <87lihtn3rf.fsf@kanis.fr> <87sjbtqz1y.fsf@googlemail.com> <874no8tt1h.fsf@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:44:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <874no8tt1h.fsf@googlemail.com> (Ivan Kanis's message of "Sun, 12 Aug 2012 10:26:34 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: 12124@debbugs.gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > What do you have in mind when we should popup? At least when you do M-x byte-compile-file (or cal the byte-compiler from dired). Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 13 14:25:48 2012 Received: (at 12124) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Aug 2012 18:25:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53935 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0zKm-0004Dq-0P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:25:48 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com ([74.125.82.42]:47416) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T0zKk-0004Dj-5L for 12124@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:25:47 -0400 Received: by wgbfm10 with SMTP id fm10so3211263wgb.3 for <12124@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:17:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:face:x-hashcash:x-hashcash:x-hashcash :date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=q+N2cZb0F5RGh0FqFio2xjQl3L/UImWkEcZnZSBLFqE=; b=olTZh8ohOFJDxejRmndauhfQFzwfIOD0FQ+7cdo040QYsEfu+H8gbqQOMFL1J5KKUX QuZb25GI1vyf317Mqw2JZmaJ2jKKsF3VGErZo9nqNYn8DWFP0dLTx4ZCRdGhdOSIpHGG YTiP0a/oGeYaO4Hcip/GujFXYGk1BMECyuFqjLirbIUVds+198kG4cwKNiiT97jea1hw M5c8YBrKEdT3+xUoYpMS1m86kFs/Q6wuQaIDokaA9Gw3eEK/doo1IY0n40T6YXIfamQA xaYyS1XGH8/LO2FsQaL0Pot2oE3xLMnWezjssHw9mf1S2I99OVE/y9RMivwiDKazqCy6 Ht1w== Received: by 10.180.78.2 with SMTP id x2mr20454537wiw.10.1344881831805; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tao ([89.83.137.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j6sm25759970wiy.4.2012.08.13.11.17.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:17:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Ivan Kanis To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#12124: 24.1.50; warning pollution References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> <87lihtn3rf.fsf@kanis.fr> <87sjbtqz1y.fsf@googlemail.com> <874no8tt1h.fsf@googlemail.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAAXNSR0IArs4c6QAAAB5QTFRF IBkXUxMTOCwoTC4qcUY8iFxQmmper31txpaJ/v/8aKZ1oAAAAcVJREFUOMt100tu2zAQAFDCXnUZ oAcIqG68LZULVLQBbwuSiffm6AIRRyeotAySJoVu2+FPpJWWC3/4NKOZocSW/yxWfnJ2+Bdwzhj7 8gleWVy7DXC2rkMNr2V/zRbghXIwthf3VbIA9Ffc71vZCSFyCEsBggtNS8ludwvfmhYA0Vn9o4DP zMWxR7+cPWzAYFzwM0ModtdmcDbDS6i/hT7L+RZof5yCXGrYe5jn2YO6BYMjgY+51tCIAqHgBLwR pwLnGuRjAKyBJkuN4yd4U92uCY1vUr2D/c5b8DuxyQwfOHUeaLqDJhnkkuGXbB56h2C1IVBdgncc bBi6feroa9B6jUDojnQPQKupbyXyeeCE1oT7Oqrt+SnfY3mkiyGA/3AmD3H5g32CcBx6hY8pRkwJ 9PpcjRGobUfprFnhAa1vepwcgMOhwG+pdSgKHFU9HAvoAH6XUl7lDUCCq5Qb6GMbVm3Aj++qDYCt wdBc/YHgOFCmS3mjDMRcSE2qY4E3Q3PVIQRQmeodNH4QEbRUFZzW+VotzwX4yTcRTySOML1qjcE5 hTirVqDHkMAP0PjAywp3d18JZtqzvr9zDYD+GaSKtE6Zlr/DLPNFmOcvBAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Hashcash: 1:20:120813:thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com::AVSAqwNhi8/z8iXt:00000000000000000000000000000000000tMk X-Hashcash: 1:20:120813:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca::m1hBejGHD4LAyB7T:0000000000000000000000000000000000000Bj5K X-Hashcash: 1:20:120813:12124@debbugs.gnu.org::II1kKT011zp3F7Cd:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000EY8L Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:17:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:44:23 -0400") Message-ID: <87boieejxb.fsf@kanis.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: 12124@debbugs.gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Stefan Monnier wrote: >> What do you have in mind when we should popup? > > At least when you do M-x byte-compile-file (or cal the byte-compiler > from dired). 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Mon, 06 Dec 2021 15:36:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Tue, 7 Dec 2021 00:36:27 +0100 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 06 Aug 2012 06:35:34 -0400") References: <87txwlkxwd.fsf@kanis.fr> <87ipd19o8s.fsf@gmail.com> <87lihtn3rf.fsf@kanis.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2021 00:36:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#12124: *Compile Log* pops up for compile warnings from programatic calls to byte-compile To: Stefan Monnier Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12124 Cc: Thierry Volpiatto , Ivan Kanis , 12124@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) tags 12124 wontfix close 12124 thanks Stefan Monnier writes: >> I think that the buffer *Compile Log* shouldn't pop up. It should behave >> like *Message*. > > I think you're right that in such a use-case it shouldn't pop up, > although in the usual byte-compilation case it should. > >> The problem is in emacs-w3m. It annoys me for mundane >> task such as reading mail or catching up news in newsticker. > > But it's also the case that emacs-w3m probably shouldn't byte-compile > code at run-time. Can you try and figure out which it does that? I think you should just not byte-compile things at runtime in user-facing code. That sounds pretty bad and unusual. There has been no further requests for the feature not to popup warnings when doing that in 9 years, so I'm taking that as a sign that there is not much need for the feature, and I'm closing this bug. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:48 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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