From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12067: 24.1; improper menu formatting with multiple \t chars Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 06:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12067@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.134337222919106 (code B ref -1); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 06:58:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2012 06:57:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42717 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SueU0-0004y7-Tc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 02:57:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42647) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SueTx-0004xx-P9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 02:57:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SueNC-0003g3-Hk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 02:50:10 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:39722) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SueNC-0003fs-Dq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 02:50:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37232) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SueNB-0002eV-FG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 02:50:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SueN6-0003WT-CK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 02:50:05 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:39771) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SueN6-0003WJ-65 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 02:50:00 -0400 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q6R6nw0N025633 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 06:49:59 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6R6nvnZ020816 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 06:49:58 GMT Received: from abhmt112.oracle.com (abhmt112.oracle.com [141.146.116.64]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q6R6nvJM031329 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 01:49:57 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:49:57 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:49:55 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1rxAfjlCb50bXCR+iHRHkugVOa/g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) emacs -Q (defcustom foo [:ascii:] "..." :type '(choice :tag "Foobar" (const :tag "A\t\t- [:ascii:]" [:ascii:]) (const :tag "Bbbbbb\t\t- [:nonascii:]" [:nonascii:]) (const :tag "Cccccccccccc\t\t- [:word:]" [:word:]) (const :tag "Dddddddddddddddddddddddddd\t\t- [:alnum:]" [:alnum:]) (const :tag "Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee\t- [:alpha:]" [:alpha:])) :group 'convenience) M-x customize-option foo Click button Value Menu to see the menu. Each time \t\t is used, there is a rectangular artifact added also. It turns out that using only a single \t does the right thing in terms of alignment in this case. But shouldn't multiple \t's let you tab (indent) further, as they do in text buffers, doc strings, etc.? And presumably \t\t should not draw a rectangle, in any case. In GNU Emacs 24.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-06-10 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include' From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12067: 24.1; improper menu formatting with multiple \t chars Resent-From: Jason Rumney Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 12067@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12067-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12067.13434014354599 (code B ref 12067); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 12067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2012 15:03:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44212 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sum54-0001C7-8Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:03:55 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.213.44]:45794) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sum51-0001Bx-Jh for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:03:52 -0400 Received: by yhq56 with SMTP id 56so3216155yhq.3 for <12067@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:56:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=XCg6nYQ5LD9mcwIGMd2W8PkOTmprC8zohg7tqXBl41A=; b=PehUm1D3onrtZcnTK6H9dsUV0clwlObpeIXEJW/7CpS3fbLyQ+HwZPDzMRryUbaQDU 68M5GNrPDkej6fWt79x9vkwHNSs0RAf+/CqU6tfK6w/w0S4atns2j5cREpNkjXhBMmOF XBBknCUhav4kGhsuMNdl7VSzx6t40S9X92ZeWNhVO5/yjFIA9ZRHmXxMZxWXa+tJ9T7P DbCIXoUjnoGjFSRI3vOP6IrvLOl3XyTWw/d2OkCrWGu2m+97KANqFkQkbMW0d1mstfzT EGKrp5jJIwO8X8rY1dqbg+W4d879eo/tXiiqYCsgcFP5yBWhWwexp616cZ3KIjudDLzN 67TQ== Received: by 10.66.75.98 with SMTP id b2mr6052788paw.60.1343401012727; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.jasonrumney.net ([180.75.106.197]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qd10sm2047163pbb.38.2012.07.27.07.56.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by home.jasonrumney.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5C44E29DA; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:53:40 +0800 (MYT) From: Jason Rumney References: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:53:40 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:49:55 -0700") Message-ID: <87pq7hz24r.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) "Drew Adams" writes: > It turns out that using only a single \t does the right thing in terms > of alignment in this case. But shouldn't multiple \t's let you tab > (indent) further, as they do in text buffers, doc strings, etc.? And > presumably \t\t should not draw a rectangle, in any case. No. A menu is not a buffer. From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12067: 24.1; improper menu formatting with multiple \t chars Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Jason Rumney'" Cc: 12067@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12067-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12067.13434019995398 (code B ref 12067); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:14:01 +0000 Received: (at 12067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2012 15:13:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44228 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SumEA-0001P1-N6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:13:18 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:28552) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SumE8-0001Ot-Pr for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:13:17 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q6RF6GL6022914 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:06:17 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6RF6FVE020533 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:06:16 GMT Received: from abhmt101.oracle.com (abhmt101.oracle.com [141.146.116.53]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q6RF6FpL032140; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:06:15 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.222.163) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:06:15 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: <87pq7hz24r.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:06:11 -0700 Message-ID: <8A9A3FFCBD5F433094079C3662EB3314@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1sCBAkKNxsz0vDR/OVTDSsMJVEQAAAQGNw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 In-Reply-To: <87pq7hz24r.fsf@gnu.org> X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) > > It turns out that using only a single \t does the right > > thing in terms of alignment in this case. But shouldn't > > multiple \t's let you tab (indent) further, as they do > > in text buffers, doc strings, etc.? And > > presumably \t\t should not draw a rectangle, in any case. > > No. A menu is not a buffer. No one said it is. From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12067: 24.1; improper menu formatting with multiple \t chars Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 12067@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 12067-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12067.13434045919082 (code B ref 12067); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 12067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2012 15:56:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44281 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sumty-0002MR-PW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:56:30 -0400 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:41502) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sumtw-0002MI-B3 for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:56:29 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M7T00G00T9W5J00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:49:29 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M7T00GF2TAH4N20@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:49:29 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:49:36 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83y5m5i4q7.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:49:55 -0700 > > emacs -Q > > (defcustom foo [:ascii:] > "..." > :type > '(choice :tag "Foobar" > (const :tag "A\t\t- [:ascii:]" [:ascii:]) > (const :tag "Bbbbbb\t\t- [:nonascii:]" [:nonascii:]) > (const :tag "Cccccccccccc\t\t- [:word:]" [:word:]) > (const :tag "Dddddddddddddddddddddddddd\t\t- [:alnum:]" [:alnum:]) > (const :tag "Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee\t- [:alpha:]" [:alpha:])) > :group 'convenience) > > M-x customize-option foo > > Click button Value Menu to see the menu. Each time \t\t is used, there > is a rectangular artifact added also. I cannot reproduce this here, neither in Emacs 24.1 nor in the current trunk version. What I did was copy-paste your example to a fresh Emacs session, then "M-x eval-region RET", then "M-x customize-option RET foo RET" and click the "Value Menu" to display the menu. It displayed correctly, nicely aligned and with no artifacts. From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12067: 24.1; improper menu formatting with multiple \t chars Resent-From: Jason Rumney Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 12067@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12067-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12067.134340644011680 (code B ref 12067); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:28:01 +0000 Received: (at 12067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2012 16:27:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44311 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SunNo-00032L-9A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:27:20 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.213.44]:62697) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SunNk-00032B-NZ for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:27:17 -0400 Received: by yhq56 with SMTP id 56so3314655yhq.3 for <12067@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:20:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=FVKJpSKehc7hKqQKbsq5D5gUmAxbkQlpQjfi2uh2T7I=; b=DI/i8+g5WWm2OBTMEZmAW6Cajb6jAppBekpzr3KEDnvE1t8Mr9DHK9MjBKknEt1aPh h/wqEeOsduzG2ZQEpQcarOcbHGOOyxMKqFvpnfMnpDMUm4Hsu2HoIUhLPsO3f9lRFoYh M5MNoeBadcCTiuZwDQ133Ajn8RV6PxL/l4lZshhL9m9ZL9gSVdyPLCpvQN23HMwgewc4 rU5OwEg8oPizia1VPxe62HOxM3HcU3l3AaCVxnXkK+khx1pl1kZe+2tjl4RcYb/UBROJ oxwnID9mg8E6yfVjDkQLt+Gk2KzCkViO38ARrvX9okJBB/5AebfVzQfEMvA37dXTfc5g hMSw== Received: by 10.66.88.39 with SMTP id bd7mr6591245pab.50.1343406017643; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.jasonrumney.net ([180.75.106.197]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wa14sm2179636pbc.10.2012.07.27.09.20.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by home.jasonrumney.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 30C9429F6; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:19:55 +0800 (MYT) From: Jason Rumney References: <87pq7hz24r.fsf@gnu.org> <8A9A3FFCBD5F433094079C3662EB3314@us.oracle.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:19:54 +0800 In-Reply-To: <8A9A3FFCBD5F433094079C3662EB3314@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 27 Jul 2012 08:06:11 -0700") Message-ID: <87lii5yy51.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) "Drew Adams" writes: >> > It turns out that using only a single \t does the right >> > thing in terms of alignment in this case. But shouldn't >> > multiple \t's let you tab (indent) further, as they do >> > in text buffers, doc strings, etc.? And >> > presumably \t\t should not draw a rectangle, in any case. >> >> No. A menu is not a buffer. > > No one said it is. You seem to be requesting it to act like one above. In Windows menus, a tab character is a not valid printing character, hence is drawn as a rectangle. An exception is that if one, and only one, tab character appears in a menu string, it is used as a separator to separate the menu text (left aligned in most locales) from the key shortcut (right aligned in those locales). YMMV with menus on other platforms however. From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12067: 24.1; improper menu formatting with multiple \t chars Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" Cc: 12067@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12067-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12067.134340671512113 (code B ref 12067); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:32:02 +0000 Received: (at 12067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2012 16:31:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44322 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SunSF-00039J-13 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:31:55 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:43010) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SunSC-00039B-Li for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:31:53 -0400 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q6RGOqhe008491 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:24:53 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6RGOpVr025670 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:24:52 GMT Received: from abhmt111.oracle.com (abhmt111.oracle.com [141.146.116.63]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q6RGOpMB032378; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:24:51 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.222.163) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:24:51 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: <83y5m5i4q7.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:24:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01CD6BD9.AB0FB120" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1sD2p1ywnC4fncR6etl05l5HwKGQAA78Nw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 In-Reply-To: <83y5m5i4q7.fsf@gnu.org> X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CD6BD9.AB0FB120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > emacs -Q > > (defcustom foo [:ascii:] > > "..." > > :type > > '(choice :tag "Foobar" > > (const :tag "A\t\t- [:ascii:]" [:ascii:]) ... > > I cannot reproduce this here, neither in Emacs 24.1 nor in the current > trunk version. > > What I did was copy-paste your example to a fresh Emacs session, then > "M-x eval-region RET", then "M-x customize-option RET foo RET" and > click the "Value Menu" to display the menu. It displayed correctly, > nicely aligned and with no artifacts. What can I say? 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debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Jason Rumney'" Cc: 12067@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12067-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12067.134340724612840 (code B ref 12067); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 12067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2012 16:40:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44329 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sunao-0003L3-0K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:40:46 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:47727) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sunal-0003Kv-Ra for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:40:44 -0400 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q6RGXhmj016571 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:33:44 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6RGXgcG008079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:33:43 GMT Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q6RGXgJu021253; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:33:42 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.222.163) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:33:42 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: <87pq7hz24r.fsf@gnu.org><8A9A3FFCBD5F433094079C3662EB3314@us.oracle.com> <87lii5yy51.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:33:38 -0700 Message-ID: <163A3A85C7FB4ED8AEC5572A092FA0E3@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1sE7dbXBdmYMt0REyWG6xKCZxYQgAAKq+g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 In-Reply-To: <87lii5yy51.fsf@gnu.org> X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) > In Windows menus, a tab character is a not valid printing character, > hence is drawn as a rectangle. An exception is that if one, and only > one, tab character appears in a menu string, it is used as a separator > to separate the menu text (left aligned in most locales) from the key > shortcut (right aligned in those locales). I see. Perhaps that should be mentioned in the doc? If Emacs cannot control or work around that limitation, so be it. Feel free to close the enhancement request as unrealizable in that case. > YMMV with menus on other platforms however. Got it. Thx. From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12067: 24.1; improper menu formatting with multiple \t chars Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12067@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.134342092032685 (code B ref -1); Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:29:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2012 20:28:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44682 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sur9M-0008V7-64 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:28:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57083) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sur9K-0008V1-Mx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:28:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sur2Z-0006R0-It for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:21:40 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RCVD_IN_XBL autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:43944) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sur2Z-0006Qw-G3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:21:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54521) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sur2Y-0001Ei-Fg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:21:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sur2X-0006QN-NL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:21:38 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.4]:60747) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sur2X-0006Pv-Dj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:21:37 -0400 Received: from snow.dragon ([82.113.121.219]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MXpqx-1THZ6H0brD-00WZ8A; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:21:35 +0200 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <83y5m5i4q7.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:24:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:24:47 -0700") Message-ID: <87zk6lx89r.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:nQpU+48CXwH2MeK1wxzN+AWc4E8pggg0eHzdj2hT1Lp u4LLCb5ta2EAKF7OdgCwFZxivVIfdz05biufatp/2NiWdqK6gZ IyIcbBMpCWkvWiXwAvS+0BU7Et4kFzHXunJNj/4mxUuiXVkR8h uD6HODfzTOySRbYgwSz01wJ1xqJqm0BsRweSdH1qwzvVy/+MGM Xf+jA+Ls5deYDWq+tFNChcW5jgfN4oIVUpnPET1XdQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) "Drew Adams" writes: > > > emacs -Q > > > (defcustom foo [:ascii:] > > > "..." > > > :type > > > '(choice :tag "Foobar" > > > (const :tag "A\t\t- [:ascii:]" [:ascii:]) > ... > > > > I cannot reproduce this here, neither in Emacs 24.1 nor in the current > > trunk version. > > > > What I did was copy-paste your example to a fresh Emacs session, then > > "M-x eval-region RET", then "M-x customize-option RET foo RET" and > > click the "Value Menu" to display the menu. It displayed correctly, > > nicely aligned and with no artifacts. > > What can I say? I do exactly that, with Emacs 24.1 and emacs -Q, and > I see what > is in the attached screenshot. A third version: I see no artifacts, but also no nice alignment. Looks like tab chars are formatted for me as spaces with constant width. (I use emacs-snapshot on Debian.) From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12067: 24.1; improper menu formatting with multiple \t chars Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: 12067@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 12067-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12067.134345902529439 (code B ref 12067); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:04:01 +0000 Received: (at 12067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2012 07:03:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45617 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv13x-0007em-73 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 03:03:45 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:47340) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv13t-0007ec-SX for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 03:03:43 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M7U00E00YP6CT00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:56:39 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M7U00E0EZAEA670@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:56:39 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:56:47 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87zk6lx89r.fsf@web.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83obn0idao.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y5m5i4q7.fsf@gnu.org> <87zk6lx89r.fsf@web.de> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Michael Heerdegen > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:24:00 +0200 > > A third version: I see no artifacts, but also no nice alignment. Looks > like tab chars are formatted for me as spaces with constant width. (I > use emacs-snapshot on Debian.) Please state the toolkit that was used to build Emacs. This issue is definitely toolkit-dependent. From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12067: 24.1; improper menu formatting with multiple \t chars Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12067@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13434801761932 (code B ref -1); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:57:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2012 12:56:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46111 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv6Z6-0000V6-27 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:56:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41086) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv6Z2-0000Ut-TG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:56:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv6SD-00081S-Hf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:49:10 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RCVD_IN_XBL autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:51255) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv6SD-00081N-F0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:49:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35051) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv6SC-0002bS-PP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:49:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv6SC-00080f-1s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:49:08 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:59778) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sv6SB-00080V-On for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 08:49:07 -0400 Received: from snow.dragon ([89.204.139.116]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MYO45-1TGm363bf7-00UueU; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:49:06 +0200 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <83y5m5i4q7.fsf@gnu.org> <87zk6lx89r.fsf@web.de> <83obn0idao.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:51:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83obn0idao.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:56:47 +0300") Message-ID: <87obn09hgs.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:BqMUpt4uTP7PYB3fNe/lWSVAGuCB9wkpFXFveV9g2N6 oI46O6FoAgc3kPC+4ZjGH2qWSqcGR4kUILDe73k6oMIEVFRgJH CBFdYSykeZ3cFMr7n5fGIKJ8MzrA3Kkv3sghs1fnG+0vi505RF fqhtBIwMiRU7s2lEfOjFg+bE/rfIbhKCGPqUWrffpOH9jc0h0n 81cY4dmBeoEKwevG2p28tmzTVzbGre1t2l5igZrHRU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Eli Zaretskii writes: > > A third version: I see no artifacts, but also no nice alignment. Looks > > like tab chars are formatted for me as spaces with constant width. (I > > use emacs-snapshot on Debian.) > > Please state the toolkit that was used to build Emacs. This issue is > definitely toolkit-dependent. GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 2012-07-21 on keller, modified by Debian From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12067: 24.1; improper menu formatting with multiple \t chars Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: 12067@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 12067-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12067.134350595614170 (code B ref 12067); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:06:01 +0000 Received: (at 12067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2012 20:05:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47182 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvDGu-0003gV-DT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:05:56 -0400 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:44691) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvDGr-0003gM-S6 for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:05:54 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M7V00000ZHH3W00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:58:48 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M7V000J3ZI00730@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:58:48 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:58:58 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87obn09hgs.fsf@web.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83k3xnhd31.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y5m5i4q7.fsf@gnu.org> <87zk6lx89r.fsf@web.de> <83obn0idao.fsf@gnu.org> <87obn09hgs.fsf@web.de> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Michael Heerdegen > Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:51:31 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > A third version: I see no artifacts, but also no nice alignment. Looks > > > like tab chars are formatted for me as spaces with constant width. (I > > > use emacs-snapshot on Debian.) > > > > Please state the toolkit that was used to build Emacs. This issue is > > definitely toolkit-dependent. > > GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) > of 2012-07-21 on keller, modified by Debian Thanks. If we care about this issue, we could perhaps expand TABs into the appropriate number of spaces, before passing the menu items to the toolkit. From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12067: 24.1; improper menu formatting with multiple \t chars Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" , "'Michael Heerdegen'" Cc: 12067@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12067-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12067.134350668815216 (code B ref 12067); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:19:01 +0000 Received: (at 12067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2012 20:18:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47199 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvDSi-0003xM-8O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:18:08 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:19521) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvDSf-0003xC-Lx for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 16:18:06 -0400 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q6SKAxnl019453 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:11:00 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6SKAw3h028536 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:10:59 GMT Received: from abhmt115.oracle.com (abhmt115.oracle.com [141.146.116.67]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q6SKAwbW032435; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:10:58 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.164.157) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:10:57 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: <83y5m5i4q7.fsf@gnu.org><87zk6lx89r.fsf@web.de> <83obn0idao.fsf@gnu.org><87obn09hgs.fsf@web.de> <83k3xnhd31.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:10:50 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1s+3ISALXVo+rYS4iinkPCHf5q0gAAQVKA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 In-Reply-To: <83k3xnhd31.fsf@gnu.org> X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) > If we care about this issue, we could perhaps expand TABs into the > appropriate number of spaces, before passing the menu items to the > toolkit. I thought of that, but menu items are often realized using proportional fonts. What is really needed, I guess, is the equivalent of `move-to-column'. From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12067: 24.1; improper menu formatting with multiple \t chars Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 12067@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 12067-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12067.134353058716374 (code B ref 12067); Sun, 29 Jul 2012 02:57:02 +0000 Received: (at 12067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jul 2012 02:56:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47403 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvJgB-0004G3-1v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:56:27 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:37397) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvJg7-0004Fs-4B for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:56:24 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M7W00700IDK8Z00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 05:49:15 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M7W007NAII34C60@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 05:49:15 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 05:49:25 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83ipd7gu2y.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y5m5i4q7.fsf@gnu.org> <87zk6lx89r.fsf@web.de> <83obn0idao.fsf@gnu.org> <87obn09hgs.fsf@web.de> <83k3xnhd31.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <12067@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:10:50 -0700 > > > If we care about this issue, we could perhaps expand TABs into the > > appropriate number of spaces, before passing the menu items to the > > toolkit. > > I thought of that, but menu items are often realized using proportional fonts. > > What is really needed, I guess, is the equivalent of `move-to-column'. move-to-column won't help, as it doesn't take pixel width of each character into account. From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:06 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12067: 24.1; improper menu formatting with multiple \t chars Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12067 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 12067@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12067-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12067.139191668118195 (code B ref 12067); Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:32:02 +0000 Received: (at 12067) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 03:31:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58668 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCL72-0004jN-1Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 22:31:20 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:35157) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCL6z-0004jF-WE for 12067@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 22:31:18 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCL6j-0004bs-2c; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 04:31:01 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 19:29:50 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:49:55 -0700") Message-ID: <87a9e1hsk1.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCL6j-0004bs-2c X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392521463.65164@6c0ZESp8tpU4XEY3kjMELA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" writes: > emacs -Q > > (defcustom foo [:ascii:] > "..." > :type > '(choice :tag "Foobar" > (const :tag "A\t\t- [:ascii:]" [:ascii:]) > (const :tag "Bbbbbb\t\t- [:nonascii:]" [:nonascii:]) > (const :tag "Cccccccccccc\t\t- [:word:]" [:word:]) > (const :tag "Dddddddddddddddddddddddddd\t\t- [:alnum:]" [:alnum:]) > (const :tag "Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee\t- [:alpha:]" [:alpha:])) > :group 'convenience) > > M-x customize-option foo The conclusion seems to be "tabs aren't really supported in menus". Closing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 22:31:29 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 03:31:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58671 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCL78-0004jh-5V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 22:31:27 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:35167) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCL75-0004jY-LV for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 22:31:23 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCL6p-0004c6-HA for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 04:31:08 +0100 Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 19:29:56 -0800 Message-Id: <878utlhsjv.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #12067 X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCL6p-0004c6-HA X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392521470.07222@MKFZtNaTRB2fRO5QCvRSvA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 12067 wontfix close 12067