From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:28:22 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#12046 <12046@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#12046 <12046@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.1.50; Regression: command `ucs-insert' is no longer recognized Reply-To: bug#12046 <12046@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 01:28:22 +0000 retitle 12046 24.1.50; Regression: command `ucs-insert' is no longer recogn= ized reassign 12046 emacs submitter 12046 "Drew Adams" severity 12046 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 25 18:57:06 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2012 22:57:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39718 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SuAVu-0000AV-5U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:57:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55163) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SuAVr-0000AM-9d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:57:04 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SuAPG-0001zP-PV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:50:15 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:51092) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SuAPG-0001zL-KX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:50:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56164) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SuAPF-00039O-Ex for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:50:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SuAPE-0001yt-DF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:50:13 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:41762) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SuAPE-0001yl-61 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 18:50:12 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q6PMoAM6005034 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:50:11 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q6PMo9ih014521 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:50:10 GMT Received: from abhmt103.oracle.com (abhmt103.oracle.com [141.146.116.55]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q6PMo9qP003236 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:50:09 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.179.10) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:50:09 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.1.50; Regression: command `ucs-insert' is no longer recognized Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:50:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac1qt9bYo26/RqQVTEiCkthh5aeHEQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) It's one thing to want to alias `ucs-insert' to `insert-char' or vice versa. It is another thing to simply remove `ucs-insert' as a command. That is not kosher. That is not deprecation - it is immediate desupport. Please restore `ucs-insert', at least as an alias, so that users and code that calls `ucs-insert' do not find themselves orphaned. Furthermore, I see this in NEWS: ** `insert-char' is now a command, and `ucs-insert' an obsolete alias for it. No, the latter part is apparently not true. Neither `M-x' nor `C-h f' recognizes `ucs-insert' at all. I also do not understand this, which is the only occurrence of `ucs-insert' in the distributed Lisp files: (define-obsolete-variable-alias 'ucs-insert 'insert-char "24.2") What is that about? Variable? Seems like this is the cause of the bugged behavior: the function no longer exists. In GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-07-22 on MARVIN Bzr revision: 109189 vincentb1@users.sourceforge.net-20120722211412-mnq2ih82me0bpuhx Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.13.1-1-dev/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8/include/libxml2' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 25 19:21:41 2012 Received: (at 12046-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2012 23:21:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39740 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SuAtg-0000ik-1j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:21:40 -0400 Received: from mail-gg0-f172.google.com ([209.85.161.172]:65167) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SuAtc-0000ib-MS for 12046-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:21:38 -0400 Received: by ggnc4 with SMTP id c4so1331475ggn.3 for <12046-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:14:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=RXxeiX0hPLTYkoETbkjQMNRJBbmswR7eBZ3iYZ6aHJs=; b=C57a+uJYU5UmUotXPUghq6nzp1pBPX51kogu7Bzme36A6mOfgMNzO9NHnoxfxIFX46 kI3179K4lhb2y0QjY0ZpWn84RhqyyqKHVs8XOi0i06jTEf3EPf2w3TVEf2Hu/CX9pmYZ pu9EUmh/iVkq5Qe9IKji3xSZQEsYBoBSiArb2LtQYHtGWhbZpmq4lDdFwk21ieyn1jaz nISH0v63G06Q5wHCjEtVsbf57wMMkpSlrQY80ToHsK2KcVCZxTl4bhJMRGujcnZbrCtl FqQygNw6pTKiVDeLuzcCmeRaIF83V3hVL6+e+B8c7FgCoHkimlVgwYEP3CkJXekxc3pV YoGQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.45.197 with SMTP id p5mr179581igm.73.1343258086811; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.142.70 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:14:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:14:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#12046: 24.1.50; Regression: command `ucs-insert' is no longer recognized From: Alp Aker To: Drew Adams Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12046-done Cc: 12046-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Drew Adams wrote: > It's one thing to want to alias `ucs-insert' to `insert-char' or vice > versa. It is another thing to simply remove `ucs-insert' as a command. > > That is not kosher. That is not deprecation - it is immediate > desupport. That was a apparently typo, now fixed. From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:28:22 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator