From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:56:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12044: 24.1; ls does not support --dired Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 12044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12044@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.134321121124534 (code B ref -1); Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:14:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2012 10:13:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38461 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Styaw-0006Nf-Mg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:13:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34578) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Styau-0006NY-Ae for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:13:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StyUJ-0003uE-0T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:06:43 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:40672) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StyUI-0003uA-Sv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:06:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53917) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StyUE-0002v8-RR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:06:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StyU6-0003rG-8h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:06:34 -0400 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]:35881) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StyU6-0003r3-2w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:06:26 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.142] (helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1StyU4-0002P3-Am for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:06:24 +0200 Received: from localhost ([::1]:36744 helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1StyU4-0002Nj-0j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:06:24 +0200 Received: from [195.4.92.17] (port=39868 helo=7.mx.freenet.de) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1StyRW-0001Pd-Qw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:03:46 +0200 Received: from ip-81-210-160-98.unitymediagroup.de ([81.210.160.98]:61883 helo=[192.168.178.8]) by 7.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1StyRW-0008MT-Jr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:03:46 +0200 From: Peter Dyballa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:03:45 +0200 Message-Id: <785A137E-5BFE-4775-831E-BD943E9D7F44@Freenet.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Hello! In GNU Emacs 23 it works to launch it with -Q and a system ls which does = not support --dired (but -dired). This fails to work in version 24.1. = This version is also missing a possibly helpful setting like (setq insert-directory-program "gls" dired-use-ls-dired t) In GNU Emacs 24.1.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.8.0, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll = bars) of 2012-07-25 on Sumac.local Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version = 11.0.11202000 Configured using: `configure '--without-pop' '--without-sound' '--without-gpm' '--without-dbus' '--without-gconf' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dathena' '--disable-ns-self-contained' '--enable-dependency-tracking' '--x-libraries=3D/opt/local/lib' '--x-includes=3D/opt/local/include' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/Application Support/Emacs/calendar24:/Library/Application Support/Emacs' 'CFLAGS=3D-v= -g -H -pipe -fPIC -fno-common -Os -m64 -march=3Dcore2 -mtune=3Dcore2 -foptimize-register-move -ftree-vectorize -fomit-frame-pointer -msse4.2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-dead_strip_dylibs -Wl,-bind_at_load -Wl,-t -m64' 'CC=3Dclang' 'CXX=3Dclang++' 'LD=3Dllvm-gcc-4.2' = 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/opt/local/lib/pkgconfig:/opt/local/= share/pkgconfig'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. ls does not support --dired; see `dired-use-ls-dired' for more details. Quit -- Greetings Pete It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities = in our air and water that are doing it. From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:56:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12044: Acknowledgement (24.1; ls does not support --dired) Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 12044@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12044.13432165436526 (code B ref 12044); Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:43:01 +0000 Received: (at 12044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2012 11:42:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38565 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Stzyw-0001hC-Ns for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:42:23 -0400 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]:54893) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Stzyt-0001h2-TZ for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:42:21 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.142] (helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1StzsL-0007Qd-Rq for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:35:33 +0200 Received: from localhost ([::1]:38668 helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1StzsL-0004iN-LF for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:35:33 +0200 Received: from [195.4.92.15] (port=55289 helo=5.mx.freenet.de) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1Stzpx-00042v-1e for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:33:05 +0200 Received: from ip-81-210-160-98.unitymediagroup.de ([81.210.160.98]:62048 helo=[192.168.178.8]) by 5.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1Stzpw-00015R-Vb for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:33:05 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Peter Dyballa In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:33:04 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <15AE0AC2-7357-4E58-B0E7-F56214D63F50@Freenet.DE> References: <785A137E-5BFE-4775-831E-BD943E9D7F44@Freenet.DE> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) After putting (setq ls-lisp-use-insert-directory-program t) (setq insert-directory-program "gls") into the site init file (/Library/Application = Support/Emacs/site-start.el) GNU Emacs 24.1 now uses gls instead of ls, = although the correct solution would be to use the system's ls and -dired = instead of --dired. This solution obviously cannot be achieved any more. = And it worked in GNU Emacs 23.4 when launched with -Q: ls seems to be = found and -dired seems to be used. A second problem exists with possible use of the variable = dired-listing-switches. With GNU gls I use "-ahlN" which has to be with = the system's ls "-ahlw". -- Greetings Pete Don't just do something, sit there. From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:56:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12044: Acknowledgement (24.1; ls does not support --dired) Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Peter Dyballa Cc: 12044@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12044.13432177548312 (code B ref 12044); Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 12044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jul 2012 12:02:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38616 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Su0IT-0002A0-7q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:02:34 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:51353) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Su0IR-00029s-BG for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:02:32 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3Whvyn4TPnz3hhVf; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:55:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: 7KbGeKIJT+zdn/kAtG7cy1F0G39XBuF/Pz/EszBDA5E= Received: from igel.home (ppp-93-104-157-219.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.157.219]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3Whvym4HRZzbbgX; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:55:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 32B1DCA2A2; Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:55:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <785A137E-5BFE-4775-831E-BD943E9D7F44@Freenet.DE> <15AE0AC2-7357-4E58-B0E7-F56214D63F50@Freenet.DE> X-Yow: Two LITTLE black dots and one BIG black dot...nice 'n' FLUFFY!! Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:55:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: <15AE0AC2-7357-4E58-B0E7-F56214D63F50@Freenet.DE> (Peter Dyballa's message of "Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:33:04 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Peter Dyballa writes: > And it worked in GNU Emacs 23.4 when launched with -Q: ls seems to be > found and -dired seems to be used. But it probably doesn't do what you think it does. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:56:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12044: 24.1; ls does not support --dired Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Peter Dyballa Cc: 12044@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12044.134360554412368 (code B ref 12044); Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 12044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jul 2012 23:45:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49511 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvdB9-0003DR-Nu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:45:43 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:33495) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvdB7-0003DI-C9 for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:45:42 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Svd4A-0000ba-00; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:38:30 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <785A137E-5BFE-4775-831E-BD943E9D7F44@Freenet.DE> X-Spook: analyzer ASPIC Venezuela AMEMB CNCIS Rand Corporation X-Ran: 3}4fx#swzR=~1O=F;o,|w^}NEyfuHVh5AQ\RPBgHrn;R-I&wcsytXx*NcV$b2&j^Hmxlzq X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:38:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <785A137E-5BFE-4775-831E-BD943E9D7F44@Freenet.DE> (Peter Dyballa's message of "Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:03:45 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Peter Dyballa wrote: > In GNU Emacs 23 it works to launch it with -Q and a system ls which > does not support --dired (but -dired). This fails to work in version > 24.1. Please give the details of how it "fails to work". Note that ls -dired is equivalent to ls -d -i -r -e -d for any sane implementation of ls, ie not relevant. > This version is also missing a possibly helpful setting like > > (setq insert-directory-program "gls" dired-use-ls-dired t) Not appropriate for Emacs, but very much so for your .emacs. From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:56:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12044: 24.1; ls does not support --dired Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Glenn Morris Cc: 12044@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12044.13436739031678 (code B ref 12044); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:46:01 +0000 Received: (at 12044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2012 18:45:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51491 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Svuxg-0000Qd-SZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:45:02 -0400 Received: from mout4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.94]:48651) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvuxZ-0000QI-AG for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:44:58 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.140] (helo=mjail0.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SvuqX-0005vR-80; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:37:37 +0200 Received: from localhost ([::1]:60177 helo=mjail0.freenet.de) by mjail0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SvuqX-0001a1-48; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:37:37 +0200 Received: from [195.4.92.18] (port=58999 helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mjail0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1Svuny-0000ed-88; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:34:58 +0200 Received: from ip-81-210-160-98.unitymediagroup.de ([81.210.160.98]:50183 helo=[192.168.178.8]) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1Svuny-0004lG-1E; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:34:58 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: Peter Dyballa In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:34:56 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <785A137E-5BFE-4775-831E-BD943E9D7F44@Freenet.DE> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Am 30.07.2012 um 01:38 schrieb Glenn Morris: > Please give the details of how it "fails to work". It reports ls does not support --dired; see `dired-use-ls-dired' for more = details. but produces somehow a good directory listing with file names like = (where the umlauts cannot be found, but that's another problem = probably): -rw-r--r-- 1 pete admin 17 25 M=C3=A4r 2010 o=E2=82=82 -rw-rw-r--@ 1 pete admin 32216 17 Nov 2002 RGB = =C3=A4=C3=B6=C3=BC=C3=A6=C3=86=C3=9C=C3=96=C3=84.txt Maybe I am misinterpreting this message. I am concerned because I had = prepared for GNU Emacsen 23 and 24 customisation =C3=A0 la '(dired-listing-switches "-ahlN") which are only OK for gls. Previously I could simply (setq dired-use-ls-dired "gls --dired") now it's getting a bit confusing. Is gls found and used or is the ls = emulation doing the job? It would be an improvement when GNU Emacs would = also report what it will use to generate the dired buffers. >=20 > Note that >=20 > ls -dired >=20 > is equivalent to >=20 > ls -d -i -r -e -d >=20 > for any sane implementation of ls, ie not relevant. I see! -- Greetings Pete Don't just do something, sit there. From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:56:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12044: 24.1; ls does not support --dired Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Peter Dyballa Cc: 12044@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12044.13436748443029 (code B ref 12044); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 12044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2012 19:00:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51517 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvvCu-0000mo-6u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:00:44 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:56947) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvvCs-0000mh-8n for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:00:42 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Svv5q-00031e-Es; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:53:26 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <785A137E-5BFE-4775-831E-BD943E9D7F44@Freenet.DE> X-Spook: Watergate electronic surveillance Forte World Trade X-Ran: u/nM/UZ!tYje[K!Z>,)uML'wo_*Sm_ue$@JCb!;eJfj;9G5B}ExBWE:}O:!sNII{Np*#UT X-Hue: yellow X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:53:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Peter Dyballa's message of "Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:34:56 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Peter Dyballa wrote: >> Please give the details of how it "fails to work". > > It reports > > ls does not support --dired; see `dired-use-ls-dired' for more details. And when you read the documentation of dired-use-ls-dired, what was unclear? > Previously I could simply > > (setq dired-use-ls-dired "gls --dired") Why would you do this? It is a boolean option. From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:56:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12044: 24.1; ls does not support --dired Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Peter Dyballa Cc: 12044@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12044.13436751433455 (code B ref 12044); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:06:01 +0000 Received: (at 12044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2012 19:05:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51527 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvvHi-0000tf-UR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:05:43 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:57054) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvvHg-0000tX-PU for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:05:41 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SvvAf-0003TZ-HO; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:58:25 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <785A137E-5BFE-4775-831E-BD943E9D7F44@Freenet.DE> X-Spook: terrorism MILSATCOM ISEC INS Merlin csystems ammunition X-Ran: k4'?`N|b4M>(x1UB/K+b&G=Ooocog (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:53:26 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) PS If I can summarize, dired is working exactly as it used to before, but is giving an extra informative message that your "ls" does not support "--dired", so it will perform suboptimally, as described in the doc of dired-use-ls-dired. I cannot see why you think it is failing to work. Either customize dired-use-ls-dired to nil, to suppress the message and go back to how it used to be, or it seems on your system you can set insert-directory-program to "gls", which is GNU ls I assume. From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:56:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12044: 24.1; ls does not support --dired Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Glenn Morris Cc: 12044@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12044.134368305514820 (code B ref 12044); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 12044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2012 21:17:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51680 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvxLL-0003qz-FL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:17:35 -0400 Received: from mout6.freenet.de ([195.4.92.96]:52212) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvxLI-0003qr-Qv for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:17:33 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.142] (helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mout6.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SvxEF-0006TP-SP; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:10:15 +0200 Received: from localhost ([::1]:57586 helo=mjail2.freenet.de) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SvxEF-0003Px-Mc; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:10:15 +0200 Received: from [195.4.92.15] (port=39646 helo=5.mx.freenet.de) by mjail2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SvxBn-0002pH-UT; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:07:43 +0200 Received: from ip-81-210-160-98.unitymediagroup.de ([81.210.160.98]:50287 helo=[192.168.178.8]) by 5.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1SvxBn-0003b4-Pd; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:07:43 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Peter Dyballa In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:07:42 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <785A137E-5BFE-4775-831E-BD943E9D7F44@Freenet.DE> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Am 30.07.2012 um 20:53 schrieb Glenn Morris: > Peter Dyballa wrote: >=20 >>> Please give the details of how it "fails to work". >>=20 >> It reports >>=20 >> ls does not support --dired; see `dired-use-ls-dired' for more = details. >=20 > And when you read the documentation of dired-use-ls-dired, what was > unclear? Most. The documentation starts with: dired-use-ls-dired is a variable defined in `dired.el'. Its value is nil Original value was unspecified So GNU Emacs started with a promising value, "unspecified". It then = found that ls is not right, and it then did not find =96 or search for =96= gls, because "unspecified" was reset to nil. Why did it so? What is the = reason for the failure? In GNU Emacs 24.0.50=20 >=20 >> Previously I could simply >>=20 >> (setq dired-use-ls-dired "gls --dired") >=20 > Why would you do this? It is a boolean option. Maybe I thought it would teach GNU Emacs to use the right programme. = Probably I found this was faulty because the line is commented with a = ";" =96 and no text in my init file. What seemed to have worked once (in = GNU Emacs < 24) are these two lines from my site init file: (setq ls-lisp-use-insert-directory-program t) (setq insert-directory-program "gls") -- Greetings Pete There's something the technicians need to learn from the artists. If it = isn't aesthetically pleasing, it's probably wrong. From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:56:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12044: 24.1; ls does not support --dired Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Glenn Morris Cc: 12044@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12044.134368636919474 (code B ref 12044); Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:13:02 +0000 Received: (at 12044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2012 22:12:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51746 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvyCn-000543-3M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:12:49 -0400 Received: from mout6.freenet.de ([195.4.92.96]:39753) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvyCk-00053v-6o for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:12:47 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.140] (helo=mjail0.freenet.de) by mout6.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1Svy5h-0004g3-G6; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:05:29 +0200 Received: from localhost ([::1]:37793 helo=mjail0.freenet.de) by mjail0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1Svy5h-0001vT-CD; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:05:29 +0200 Received: from [195.4.92.26] (port=39201 helo=16.mx.freenet.de) by mjail0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1Svy3F-0001Fl-Kz; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:02:57 +0200 Received: from ip-81-210-160-98.unitymediagroup.de ([81.210.160.98]:50339 helo=[192.168.178.8]) by 16.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1Svy3E-0006x7-RP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:02:57 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Peter Dyballa In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:02:55 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1C81D4D1-B775-4D64-9146-8E9B2AB020A6@Freenet.DE> References: <785A137E-5BFE-4775-831E-BD943E9D7F44@Freenet.DE> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Am 30.07.2012 um 20:58 schrieb Glenn Morris: > Either customize dired-use-ls-dired to nil, to suppress the message = and > go back to how it used to be, or it seems on your system you can set > insert-directory-program to "gls", which is GNU ls I assume. (setq insert-directory-program "gls")=20 still seems to do the job =96 and it silences the report. This "gls" is = indeed GNU ls (8.17). But=85 'emacs -Q' shows the report on ls and = starts the dired buffer with: /Users/pete: total used in directory 1149800 available 159246008 drwxr-xr-x+ 92 pete admin 23188 29 Jul 22:50 . When I execute (setq insert-directory-program "gls")=20 in *scratch* buffer, then the opened dired buffer starts with: /Users/pete: insgesamt 574900 drwxr-xr-x+ 92 pete admin 23188 29. Jul 22:50 . For both cases this is valid: dired-listing-switches is a variable defined in `dired.el'. Its value is "-al" The latter output is from gls, the former from the ls emulation? -- Greetings Pete Time flies like an error =96 but fruit flies like a banana! - (almost) Groucho Marx From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:56:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12044: 24.1; ls does not support --dired Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Peter Dyballa Cc: 12044@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12044.134427572912489 (code B ref 12044); Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 12044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Aug 2012 17:55:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37875 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SyRWa-0003FO-Oz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:55:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:56237) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SyRWY-0003FH-S4 for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:55:27 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SyROt-0005XQ-QR; Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:47:31 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <785A137E-5BFE-4775-831E-BD943E9D7F44@Freenet.DE> <1C81D4D1-B775-4D64-9146-8E9B2AB020A6@Freenet.DE> X-Spook: weapons of mass destruction Steve Case MD4 Abbas Freeh X-Ran: lOjU4FihPFymZmVs]v!cd+(rG~2`H'iC=pfS^zQ?(;,'KS(]1c$CsH->&NUea610A9*'zC X-Hue: yellow X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:47:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1C81D4D1-B775-4D64-9146-8E9B2AB020A6@Freenet.DE> (Peter Dyballa's message of "Tue, 31 Jul 2012 00:02:55 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Peter Dyballa wrote: >> Either customize dired-use-ls-dired to nil, to suppress the message and >> go back to how it used to be, or it seems on your system you can set >> insert-directory-program to "gls", which is GNU ls I assume. > > (setq insert-directory-program "gls")=20 > > still seems to do the job =E2=80=93 and it silences the report. As I said. Nothing has changed in this regard. > But=E2=80=A6 'emacs -Q' shows the report As expected. > The latter output is from gls, the former from the ls emulation? I have no idea what you mean, or what the bug is supposed to be here.=20 Emulation of ls in lisp is used by default on MS Windows only. It has no relevance to any other platform unless you explicitly choose to use it. From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:56:10 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#12044: 24.1; ls does not support --dired Resent-From: Peter Dyballa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 12:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Glenn Morris Cc: 12044@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 12044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12044.134442758914953 (code B ref 12044); Wed, 08 Aug 2012 12:07:01 +0000 Received: (at 12044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Aug 2012 12:06:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41356 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sz51x-0003t7-MB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:06:29 -0400 Received: from mout4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.94]:48324) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sz51w-0003t0-3o for 12044@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:06:29 -0400 Received: from [195.4.92.141] (helo=mjail1.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1Sz4u7-0004bw-5t; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:58:23 +0200 Received: from localhost ([::1]:52743 helo=mjail1.freenet.de) by mjail1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1Sz4u7-0007Sn-07; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:58:23 +0200 Received: from [195.4.92.18] (port=58363 helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mjail1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1Sz4rI-0006ZC-JL; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:55:28 +0200 Received: from ip-81-210-160-98.unitymediagroup.de ([81.210.160.98]:50397 helo=[192.168.178.8]) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.76 #1) id 1Sz4rI-0005I6-C6; Wed, 08 Aug 2012 13:55:28 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Peter Dyballa In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 13:55:27 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <785A137E-5BFE-4775-831E-BD943E9D7F44@Freenet.DE> <1C81D4D1-B775-4D64-9146-8E9B2AB020A6@Freenet.DE> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Let's say it's solved now. -- Greetings Pete One cannot live by television, video games, top ten CDs, and dumb movies = alone. =96 Amiri Baraka, 1999 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 14 13:26:10 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2012 17:26:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56701 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Ksb-0004hL-QK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:26:10 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:35882) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T1Ksa-0004hF-Kq for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:26:09 -0400 Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so777388obb.3 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:17:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=Zm67gfJdqqHmTIS+m2ODcyfhtr0fp9pwHav984qh+L0=; b=SKq6k4+2YULWrGo9kCo6+02sUVFGK63yMaBIRFjOBv5MmGembYa8pOsVODIFBs3j1q SCh7qhkYl6lK0oHllweqipaGFdglVcryVcvMOYPyaWmOGAnXjOh4ry5+7yRcaYLw4R3f opljM/8iy/idP2QgjsnbNF5/VSLviBIz7z7GiX7MkhV74rliwskCLa+qJ4qMTpujQzxl 2nSV1LpiBI+7h+QVlMsK9UO8zhGJDqBNEdO/ChvYLpdMOSBsa9OvGdQfw+spdy0FqWRX b4RmBvIGeXz4oAiRulywGX9oyyDG4u9lttBeXgZVQZWa+hhC+bhkBrNq/aRNMfouShKt xaSA== Received: by 10.182.108.71 with SMTP id hi7mr20313077obb.21.1344964649271; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulysses ([155.69.183.59]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cp8sm3210060obc.23.2012.08.14.10.17.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:17:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 12044 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:17:24 +0800 Message-ID: <871uj9o0kb.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) close 12044 thanks