From unknown Wed Sep 10 13:56:02 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#12028 <12028@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#12028 <12028@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Lock file name Reply-To: bug#12028 <12028@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 20:56:02 +0000 retitle 12028 Lock file name reassign 12028 emacs submitter 12028 Suvayu Ali severity 12028 wishlist tag 12028 wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 22 21:09:57 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jul 2012 01:09:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58194 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1St79p-0000FO-0r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 21:09:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53188) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1St79n-0000FH-Lu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 21:09:56 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1St73T-0007Le-Jt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 21:03:24 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:50446) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1St73T-0007LZ-Gx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 21:03:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38299) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1St73S-00059c-Ht for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 21:03:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1St73R-0007LB-HG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 21:03:22 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:57774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1St73R-0007L2-Ay for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 21:03:21 -0400 Received: by wgbez12 with SMTP id ez12so4294845wgb.30 for ; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:03:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent; bh=5CZnnKtx5OnfjRLdL2WgsnLV5fZWRUBfBL4W8vbbeSM=; b=tIZMsztkBCowKEq4dq2ARyQMDuD9A9VKV40IdxdPoQo3SfvVpXGAyfbh9dt21hfmtB 8o2hFu2f6g9ihSCaBwcs102PPTrvRw/ufojPpyV0s3rAAxFjGMA+VZyJw+TjcpSDEAua NiZmYYgoLp9nWaSE7KcSraHg0KCcfJ2Q9omy4P+CVIDreFtppy1OryZEdcB1JiXO1S7R Lk4WYT4USDWtbyCw8UhI0mB954neazMNaccGOtycvq0uSakcf+OUfKENt0zMBHbOaEo5 xFCQgpqOeomy2OartFJhy8ogGkt/8JuO5vDzCnN2McsG31vG1Un6ubwl2Ke2VNKxfvZc JBOw== Received: by 10.180.14.8 with SMTP id l8mr32445349wic.6.1343005400114; Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kuru.dyndns-at-home.com (AAnnecy-651-1-51-194.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr. [86.209.194.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y5sm14240205wiw.9.2012.07.22.18.03.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 03:03:15 +0200 From: Suvayu Ali To: Emacs bug report Subject: Lock file name Message-ID: <20120723010315.GA15885@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Hi Emacs devs, I am using GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (built 2012-07-21). I see the file naming scheme for lock files is `.#'. I seemed to recall there was trailing hash like this `.##'. But on the Emacs help list I was told there was no trailing hash in the past. So my request is, can a trailing hash be added? My issue in particular is, the lock file gets picked by a glob like `*.cxx'; with a trailing hash, this would only match source files. This can be a problem with tools that only support very basic globbing. Thanks for your consideration. PS: I'm not subscribed, please CC me in any discussion on this topic. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 29 19:24:28 2012 Received: (at 12028) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jul 2012 23:24:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49480 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvcqV-0001on-Ig for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:24:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:33281) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvcqP-0001od-Db for 12028@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:24:22 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SvcjS-0007ib-Ua; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:17:06 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Suvayu Ali Subject: Re: bug#12028: Lock file name References: <20120723010315.GA15885@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> X-Spook: undercover Crypto AG target North Korea Legion of Doom X-Ran: )5{{z:3H75Ma?n5|l;H*IUwZOK4i%\DVjz*VH.*OXV)?yFUOmSOI78Axcfoy#)=w##VI%. X-Hue: white X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:17:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20120723010315.GA15885@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> (Suvayu Ali's message of "Mon, 23 Jul 2012 03:03:15 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12028 Cc: 12028@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Suvayu Ali wrote: > I am using GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (built 2012-07-21). I see the file naming > scheme for lock files is `.#'. I seemed to recall there was > trailing hash like this `.##'. But on the Emacs help list I > was told there was no trailing hash in the past. So my request is, can a > trailing hash be added? > > My issue in particular is, the lock file gets picked by a glob like > `*.cxx'; with a trailing hash, this would only match source files. This > can be a problem with tools that only support very basic globbing. I don't think Emacs needs to change the (very long-standing) name of lockfiles for the sake of inflexible tools that cannot exclude dotfiles (note that normal shell globbing does not match dotfiles at all). Emacs 24.2 will have an option `create-lockfiles' that you can set to nil to disable the generation of lockfiles altogether, hopefully that works for you. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 29 19:24:41 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jul 2012 23:24:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49483 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Svcqm-0001pL-PK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:24:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:33284) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Svcqh-0001pC-I6 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:24:38 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Svcjl-0007ji-7C for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:17:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:17:25 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 12028 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) severity 12028 wishlist tag 12028 wontfix From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 29 19:38:13 2012 Received: (at 12028) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jul 2012 23:38:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49506 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Svd3s-00031i-EI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:38:13 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:54338) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Svd3q-00031b-4M for 12028@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:38:10 -0400 Received: by obbwc20 with SMTP id wc20so8017132obb.3 for <12028@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:30:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=rNKjPhtFegPbqoIyIeq70IV+PQNyIivJxwOUK5sDt5Y=; b=LdJP5wnt5kHTHzk/fjkkMCt4Kqxx6y2q2trqs+tcnhMO8SGRqn5HTT/JlsExqIGRgV ETrCDpBjDBagHLzJB9f4AnjyrIDUtvYkriD7LxjURzWS2Des1fNbSH0GYS1AOFnCJ7Ny 56z7RkyEgntjWDLDcl7wDH0nybZ7RmvGBkFkJ4KmaiNc7hBmwTh9QCZzm5vBPBK7qu2v TtGwtBXy5C7NSJHP+umoaE8T669WrOkJRr8p5riQDifKWIEJ/4z+yVTa5uuM0KO7fykH fcknO+46+tqI8Lwbbkx3Ao+mJvQnHhG6K99QDCeQy4ofsjbBktZdkm406Hj6PCNINwGF 1wKA== Received: by 10.182.110.37 with SMTP id hx5mr14453359obb.48.1343604658248; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:30:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.143.104 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:30:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20120723010315.GA15885@kuru.dyndns-at-home.com> From: suvayu ali Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:30:38 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eiqq4NB_XN2rANj1vHeDnHWrZdw Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#12028: Lock file name To: Glenn Morris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 12028 Cc: 12028@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Hi Glenn, On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:17 AM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Suvayu Ali wrote: > >> I am using GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (built 2012-07-21). I see the file naming >> scheme for lock files is `.#'. I seemed to recall there was >> trailing hash like this `.##'. But on the Emacs help list I >> was told there was no trailing hash in the past. So my request is, can a >> trailing hash be added? >> >> My issue in particular is, the lock file gets picked by a glob like >> `*.cxx'; with a trailing hash, this would only match source files. This >> can be a problem with tools that only support very basic globbing. > > I don't think Emacs needs to change the (very long-standing) name of > lockfiles for the sake of inflexible tools that cannot exclude dotfiles I guess you are right. I use the tool only because I have to, it's a real pain. :( > (note that normal shell globbing does not match dotfiles at all). Emacs > 24.2 will have an option `create-lockfiles' that you can set to nil to > disable the generation of lockfiles altogether, hopefully that works for > you. This will work well thank you. :) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. 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