GNU bug report logs - #11987
use of -h and -V

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Package: coreutils;

Reported by: Marcel Partap <mpartap <at> gmx.net>

Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:43:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: Eric Blake <eblake <at> redhat.com>

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Report forwarded to bug-coreutils <at> gnu.org:
bug#11987; Package coreutils. (Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:43:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Marcel Partap <mpartap <at> gmx.net>:
New bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to bug-coreutils <at> gnu.org. (Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:43:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Marcel Partap <mpartap <at> gmx.net>
To: bug-coreutils <at> gnu.org
Subject: peace and happiness will spread more widely once coreutils...
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:35:32 +0200
..more thoroughly supports the short options -h and -V for --help and
--version respectively.
Or are there convincing arguments in favor of f.e. *date -h* telling
people to try harder asking for help?
> date: invalid option -- 'h'
> Try `date --help' for more information.
#Regards!Marcel C;




Changed bug title to 'use of -h and -V' from 'peace and happiness will spread more widely once coreutils...' Request was from Eric Blake <eblake <at> redhat.com> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:08:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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You have taken responsibility. (Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:08:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Eric Blake <eblake <at> redhat.com>
To: Marcel Partap <mpartap <at> gmx.net>
Cc: 11987-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11987: peace and happiness will spread more widely once
	coreutils...
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 07:01:40 -0600
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retitle 11987 use of -h and -V
tag notabug
thanks

On 07/19/2012 06:35 AM, Marcel Partap wrote:
> ..more thoroughly supports the short options -h and -V for --help and
> --version respectively.

GNU Coding Standards require '--help' and '--version', but do not
require -h or -V (in fact, is -v or -V the more common abbreviation?).
We'd rather not burn short option letters on these, since we risk
collisions with future standardized uses of those short options for
other reasons.

> Or are there convincing arguments in favor of f.e. *date -h* telling
> people to try harder asking for help?
>> date: invalid option -- 'h'
>> Try `date --help' for more information.

Yes, there is a convincing argument - future POSIX may standardize 'date
-h' to mean something else, and we don't want to get in the way of that
potential addition.

I'm going to close this bug out, but you can feel free to continue to
add arguments if you think you can be convincing enough to change our minds.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake <at> redhat.com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org



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