From unknown Tue Jun 17 21:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11915: libraries that don't provide a feature or the wrong one Resent-From: Jonas Bernoulli Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 11915 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 11915@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13420403233881 (code B ref -1); Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:59:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2012 20:58:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34023 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3zf-00010X-2e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:58:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54456) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3zc-00010Q-KD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:58:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3uJ-0004CQ-K6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:53:12 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:58492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3uJ-0004CL-GM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:53:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47858) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3uI-0007eH-Ka for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:53:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3uH-0004C7-M6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:53:10 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:46724) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3uH-0004Bz-FR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:53:09 -0400 Received: by pbbrp2 with SMTP id rp2so2962517pbb.0 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:53:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=U9cgVFDKtqeH1raCwPMloShziqUN2kaqcCTGwhGstXM=; b=YpOjVU5QNU0gYM6E/7tLpFJ8KjGsmrPQbw7zsFeeGkdNfnSrI50gAkw2PFzuY46kCL 0Fi3iMrj8JZ0HTepihTikAUsx8WG667AI3eId4pmutdEsUl+rlcYJMMPu9+lFPW148KH k4Z6Pp3QMjJFFhDNj9lZTJjIsIPkEEtRCricz2HFOW4ee6tx3it4hBHVXp+MUW925b3D R8OLs1P1/wmlWk6w5+kfvAihBEvpaYsyK+OtO0sq7KhyYnRyEng5h+HfwaCg3zdaVnDG RQXeunxb6FU2mayNQovyz+GndmB0AhHiKRNI7WlVxcTPBnf8obdnuiwhDleWAP+9a/1a 2n/A== Received: by 10.68.204.33 with SMTP id kv1mr3661331pbc.22.1342039987805; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:53:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.57.65 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:52:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonas Bernoulli Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:52:47 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eIhZE7SaLCHXIokBigzYY_et1ec Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) * in the emacs-24 branch: bug-reference.el and map-ynp.el do not provide a feature. misearch.el provides `multi-isearch' instead of `misearch'. userlock.el, patcomp.el, forms-d2.el and forms-pass.el also don't provide a feature but it seems this intentional. However I think they then should not appear in `packages-builtins'. The last two could possibly be added to the forms package. * in the elpa branch: markchars.el does not provide a feature. From unknown Tue Jun 17 21:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11915: libraries that don't provide a feature or the wrong one Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11915 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jonas Bernoulli Cc: 11915@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11915-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11915.134210392318085 (code B ref 11915); Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:39:02 +0000 Received: (at 11915) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2012 14:38:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36073 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpKXS-0004hd-O7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:38:43 -0400 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:35349) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpKXP-0004hT-Ha for 11915@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:38:40 -0400 Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q6CEX1jr010223; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:33:03 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 078A2AE3BA; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:33:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:33:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Jonas Bernoulli's message of "Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:52:47 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4276=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4276> : streams <783354> : uri <1163427> X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) > * in the emacs-24 branch: > bug-reference.el and map-ynp.el do not provide a feature. Looks like a bug in bug-reference.el. For map-ynp.el, I think it's normal because that file is preloaded. > misearch.el provides `multi-isearch' instead of `misearch'. That should be fixed, and is probably a left-over from adapting the filename to 8+3 limitations. > userlock.el, patcomp.el, forms-d2.el and forms-pass.el also > don't provide a feature but it seems this intentional. userlock should arguably be preloaded. patcomp.el is obsolete and not worth fixing, and the other two indeed aren't really Lisp packages so don't need a `provide'. > However I think they then should not appear in `packages-builtins'. You might be right (at least the etc/forms/*.el files shouldn't be there), tho I'm not sure how important this is. > * in the elpa branch: > markchars.el does not provide a feature. That's an oversight, yes, thank you, Stefan From unknown Tue Jun 17 21:53:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11915: libraries that don't provide a feature or the wrong one Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11915 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: jonas@bernoul.li, 11915@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 11915-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11915.134210691222485 (code B ref 11915); Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:29:01 +0000 Received: (at 11915) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2012 15:28:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36191 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpLJg-0005qc-5Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:28:32 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:54163) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpLJd-0005qT-Qw for 11915@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:28:31 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M7200B00020AP00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 11915@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:22:49 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M7200BJT0215R20@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:22:49 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:22:48 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83629tatrr.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:33:00 -0400 > Cc: 11915@debbugs.gnu.org > > > misearch.el provides `multi-isearch' instead of `misearch'. > > That should be fixed, and is probably a left-over from adapting the > filename to 8+3 limitations. AFAIK, there was never such a limitation in Emacs sources. From unknown Tue Jun 17 21:53:49 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Jonas Bernoulli Subject: bug#11915: closed (Re: bug#11915: libraries that don't provide a feature or the wrong one) Message-ID: References: X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 11915 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 11915@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:51:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1342612262-28628-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1342612262-28628-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #11915: libraries that don't provide a feature or the wrong one which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 11915@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 11915: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D11915 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1342612262-28628-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 11915-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2012 11:50:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47660 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrSmM-0007RQ-9u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:50:54 -0400 Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:54064) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrSmJ-0007RH-2Y for 11915-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:50:52 -0400 Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q6IBidRS030646; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:44:41 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 17704AECAF; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:44:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Jonas Bernoulli Subject: Re: bug#11915: libraries that don't provide a feature or the wrong one Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:44:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Jonas Bernoulli's message of "Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:42:47 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4282=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4282> : streams <786664> : uri <1168415> X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11915-done Cc: 11915-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) >>> * in the emacs-24 branch: >>> bug-reference.el and map-ynp.el do not provide a feature. >> Looks like a bug in bug-reference.el. > This bug does not appear to be fixed yet. Should be fixed now. >> For map-ynp.el, I think it's normal because that file is preloaded. I added: > ;; Package: emacs > to it's header. >>> misearch.el provides `multi-isearch' instead of `misearch'. >> That should be fixed, > This does not appear to be fixed yet. Should be fixed now. >>> userlock.el, patcomp.el, forms-d2.el and forms-pass.el also >>> don't provide a feature but it seems this intentional. >> userlock should arguably be preloaded. > Then it should also not be an "independent package" but be part of the > "emacs" package just like `map-ynp.el'. Done. >> patcomp.el is obsolete and not worth fixing, > Shouldn't it be moved to lisp/obsolete then (or since it was only used by > maintainers removed right away)? Also it should not appear in > `package--builtins'. It's already been moved to obsolete in trunk a while ago. >>> However I think they then should not appear in `packages-builtins'. >> You might be right (at least the etc/forms/*.el files shouldn't be >> there), tho I'm not sure how important this is. > It would be easy to make them part of the `forms' package. Oh, I see, you're looking at the 24.1 code, but in the trunk these files have been moved to "etc/forms" so they should not be a problem any more. >>> * in the elpa branch: >>> markchars.el does not provide a feature. >> That's an oversight, yes, thank you, > This does not appear to be fixed yet. Should be fixed now. Stefan ------------=_1342612262-28628-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2012 20:58:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34023 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3zf-00010X-2e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:58:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54456) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3zc-00010Q-KD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:58:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3uJ-0004CQ-K6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:53:12 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:58492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3uJ-0004CL-GM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:53:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47858) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3uI-0007eH-Ka for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:53:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3uH-0004C7-M6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:53:10 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:46724) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp3uH-0004Bz-FR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:53:09 -0400 Received: by pbbrp2 with SMTP id rp2so2962517pbb.0 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:53:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=U9cgVFDKtqeH1raCwPMloShziqUN2kaqcCTGwhGstXM=; b=YpOjVU5QNU0gYM6E/7tLpFJ8KjGsmrPQbw7zsFeeGkdNfnSrI50gAkw2PFzuY46kCL 0Fi3iMrj8JZ0HTepihTikAUsx8WG667AI3eId4pmutdEsUl+rlcYJMMPu9+lFPW148KH k4Z6Pp3QMjJFFhDNj9lZTJjIsIPkEEtRCricz2HFOW4ee6tx3it4hBHVXp+MUW925b3D R8OLs1P1/wmlWk6w5+kfvAihBEvpaYsyK+OtO0sq7KhyYnRyEng5h+HfwaCg3zdaVnDG RQXeunxb6FU2mayNQovyz+GndmB0AhHiKRNI7WlVxcTPBnf8obdnuiwhDleWAP+9a/1a 2n/A== Received: by 10.68.204.33 with SMTP id kv1mr3661331pbc.22.1342039987805; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:53:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.57.65 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:52:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonas Bernoulli Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:52:47 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eIhZE7SaLCHXIokBigzYY_et1ec Message-ID: Subject: libraries that don't provide a feature or the wrong one To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) * in the emacs-24 branch: bug-reference.el and map-ynp.el do not provide a feature. misearch.el provides `multi-isearch' instead of `misearch'. userlock.el, patcomp.el, forms-d2.el and forms-pass.el also don't provide a feature but it seems this intentional. However I think they then should not appear in `packages-builtins'. The last two could possibly be added to the forms package. * in the elpa branch: markchars.el does not provide a feature. ------------=_1342612262-28628-1--