From unknown Tue Jun 17 20:18:10 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#11902 <11902@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#11902 <11902@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Emacs 23.2: dired rename file and file is hidden - Windows 7 Reply-To: bug#11902 <11902@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 03:18:10 +0000 retitle 11902 Emacs 23.2: dired rename file and file is hidden - Windows 7 reassign 11902 emacs submitter 11902 Bernard Stumpf severity 11902 normal tag 11902 moreinfo thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 10 13:52:27 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2012 17:52:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60575 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Soebr-0004Lw-4O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:52:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41718) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SoeYZ-0004Go-29 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:49:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SoeTH-0002JA-8Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:43:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:47777) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SoeTH-0002J6-52 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:43:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46324) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SoeTC-00037t-Bf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:43:34 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SoeT3-000200-0q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:43:29 -0400 Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net ([68.230.241.218]:40172) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SoeT2-0001zo-Rq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:43:20 -0400 Received: from eastrmimpo306.cox.net ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120710174318.INJF18532.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo306.cox.net> for ; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:43:18 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([72.200.136.181]) by eastrmimpo306.cox.net with bizsmtp id YhjH1j00W3v0BB402hjJEy; Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:43:18 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020205.4FFC69B6.0107,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=lR4ZvCW7HH2AmT/MrKSgFRfV9rO+LBlED2yZpX9VLDQ= c=1 sm=1 a=sXpSnxhYk0UA:10 a=vXLosn5PsWwA:10 a=5fTOHU_hwI0A:10 a=ucfg8XEUvC8SwGgVBsnGUQ==:17 a=86ac-oa4JMzbLOP3QLAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=wnUgqhO926UgPNu_hpcA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=ucfg8XEUvC8SwGgVBsnGUQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-ID: <4FFC69B3.2030805@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:43:15 -0400 From: Bernard Stumpf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Emacs 23.2: dired rename file and file is hidden - Windows 7 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020904050100050308020201" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:52:23 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020904050100050308020201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Running emacs 23.2 on Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 on a Toshiba Satellite P740. Doing a dired R filename newname after this the Dired buffer does not have the line with newname and not filename either. Typing l (= dired-do-redisplay) and the line with newname shows up. Same thing by typing g (= revert-buffer) In other words: the rename happens in the filesystem but the dired buffer display is incorrect - it looses or hides the renamed item. I've run the same verson of emacs (23.2) on a Windows XP Pro SP3 earlier this year, and this dired problem was not observed. -Bernard Stumpf In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601) of 2010-05-08 on G41R2F1 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/xpm/include' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Dired by date Minor modes in effect: display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. --------------020904050100050308020201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Running emacs 23.2 on Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 on a Toshiba Satellite P740.

Doing a dired R filename newname
   after this the Dired buffer  does not have the line with newname and not filename either.
   Typing l (= dired-do-redisplay) and the line with newname shows up. Same thing by typing g (= revert-buffer)

In other words: the rename happens in the filesystem but the dired buffer display is incorrect - it looses or hides the renamed item.

I've run the same verson of emacs (23.2) on a Windows XP Pro SP3 earlier this year, and this dired problem was not observed.

-Bernard Stumpf

In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7601)
 of 2010-05-08 on G41R2F1
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/xpm/include'

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: ENU
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: cp1252
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Dired by date

Minor modes in effect:
  display-time-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None found.

 --------------020904050100050308020201-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 11 12:08:25 2012 Received: (at 11902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2012 16:08:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33624 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SozSj-0002Y2-19 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:08:25 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:50608) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SozSg-0002Xt-UJ for 11902@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:08:24 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M700050075HFH00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 11902@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:02:25 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M70004G277Z54K0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:02:24 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:02:20 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#11902: Emacs 23.2: dired rename file and file is hidden - Windows 7 In-reply-to: <4FFC69B3.2030805@verizon.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Bernard Stumpf Message-id: <83y5mqb81f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4FFC69B3.2030805@verizon.net> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11902 Cc: 11902@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:43:15 -0400 > From: Bernard Stumpf > > Running emacs 23.2 on Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 on a Toshiba Satellite > P740. > > Doing a dired R filename newname > after this the Dired buffer does not have the line with newname and > not filename either. > Typing l (= dired-do-redisplay) and the line with newname shows up. > Same thing by typing g (= revert-buffer) > > In other words: the rename happens in the filesystem but the dired > buffer display is incorrect - it looses or hides the renamed item. I couldn't reproduce this, neither with Emacs 23.2 nor with the current version. The directory display refreshes automatically for me. Does the problem happen for you with every file, on every filesystem to which you have access? Or just certain files (or types of files) are prone to this? IOW, please tell more details about the problem, as it seems to be not trivial to reproduce. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 11 13:52:31 2012 Received: (at 11902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2012 17:52:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33791 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp15T-0004wF-3n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:52:31 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:61855) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp15Q-0004w8-Qz for 11902@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:52:29 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M7000K00BAP9F00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 11902@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:47:00 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M7000JQFC2CSSB0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:47:00 +0300 (IDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:46:57 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#11902: Emacs 23.2: dired rename file and file is hidden - Windows 7 In-reply-to: <4FFDB03B.5060906@verizon.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Bernard Stumpf Message-id: <83obnmb372.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4FFC69B3.2030805@verizon.net> <83y5mqb81f.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFDB03B.5060906@verizon.net> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11902 Cc: 11902@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) [Please CC the bug address on all your responses, so that this discussion gets archived by the bug tracker.] > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:56:27 -0400 > From: Bernard Stumpf > > As I stated before, I did not observe this problem on an IBM Thinkpad > running Windows XP Pro SP3. > Now I'm using a Toshiba Satellite P740 running Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 I tried on Windows 7, and didn't see the problem. > The problem has shown up on every rename in a dired buffer on this machine. Strange, it doesn't happen for me. Do you see that in "emacs -Q"? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 11 20:10:58 2012 Received: (at 11902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2012 00:10:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34213 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp6zh-00068p-Jo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:10:58 -0400 Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net ([68.230.241.215]:36575) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sp6zg-00068j-5R for 11902@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:10:56 -0400 Received: from eastrmimpo306.cox.net ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120712000526.RPUV8874.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo306.cox.net>; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:05:26 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([72.200.136.181]) by eastrmimpo306.cox.net with bizsmtp id ZC5S1j0073v0BB402C5SCK; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:05:26 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.4FFE14C6.0082,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=lR4ZvCW7HH2AmT/MrKSgFRfV9rO+LBlED2yZpX9VLDQ= c=1 sm=1 a=sXpSnxhYk0UA:10 a=3mnXv579cEkA:10 a=5fTOHU_hwI0A:10 a=ucfg8XEUvC8SwGgVBsnGUQ==:17 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=DCQvw3U32pYRMY0O1pEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=BqKhy8WwMcB_MwHJxAkA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=ii61gXl28gQA:10 a=ucfg8XEUvC8SwGgVBsnGUQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-ID: <4FFE14C5.1040307@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:05:25 -0400 From: Bernard Stumpf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#11902: Emacs 23.2: dired rename file and file is hidden - Windows 7 References: <4FFC69B3.2030805@verizon.net> <83y5mqb81f.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFDB03B.5060906@verizon.net> <83obnmb372.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83obnmb372.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060606040300090206010601" X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11902 Cc: 11902@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060606040300090206010601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just tried it in an "emacs -Q" window. Did a dired of my Users home directory and there did an R of an existing file to "newname". The line containing the file disappeared. In other words: "emacs -Q" made no difference: the problem remains. -Bernie Eli Zaretskii wrote at 13:46: >[Please CC the bug address on all your responses, so that this >discussion gets archived by the bug tracker.] > > > >>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:56:27 -0400 >>From: Bernard Stumpf >> >>As I stated before, I did not observe this problem on an IBM Thinkpad >>running Windows XP Pro SP3. >>Now I'm using a Toshiba Satellite P740 running Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 >> >> > >I tried on Windows 7, and didn't see the problem. > > > >>The problem has shown up on every rename in a dired buffer on this machine. >> >> > >Strange, it doesn't happen for me. Do you see that in "emacs -Q"? > > > > --------------060606040300090206010601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just tried it in an "emacs -Q" window. Did a dired of my Users home directory and there did an R of an existing file to "newname".  The line containing the file disappeared.

In other words: "emacs -Q" made no difference: the problem remains.

-Bernie


Eli Zaretskii wrote at 13:46:
[Please CC the bug address on all your responses, so that this
discussion gets archived by the bug tracker.]

  
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:56:27 -0400
From: Bernard Stumpf <bernard.stumpf@verizon.net>

As I stated before, I did not observe this problem on an IBM Thinkpad 
running Windows XP Pro SP3.
Now I'm using a Toshiba Satellite P740 running Windows 7 Home Premium SP1
    

I tried on Windows 7, and didn't see the problem.

  
The problem has shown up on every rename in a dired buffer on this machine.
    

Strange, it doesn't happen for me.  Do you see that in "emacs -Q"?
--------------060606040300090206010601-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 12 01:20:58 2012 Received: (at 11902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2012 05:20:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34570 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpBpi-0004dG-L7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 01:20:58 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:47036) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpBpg-0004d4-8l for 11902@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 01:20:57 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M71003007VYDR00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 11902@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:15:24 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M71003PU7XNDM00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:15:24 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:15:21 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#11902: Emacs 23.2: dired rename file and file is hidden - Windows 7 In-reply-to: <4FFE14C5.1040307@verizon.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Bernard Stumpf Message-id: <83fw8xblw6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4FFC69B3.2030805@verizon.net> <83y5mqb81f.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFDB03B.5060906@verizon.net> <83obnmb372.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFE14C5.1040307@verizon.net> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11902 Cc: 11902@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:05:25 -0400 > From: Bernard Stumpf > CC: 11902@debbugs.gnu.org > > I just tried it in an "emacs -Q" window. Did a dired of my Users home > directory and there did an R of an existing file to "newname". The line > containing the file disappeared. > > In other words: "emacs -Q" made no difference: the problem remains. Thanks. Does the "newname" affect the problem? E.g., if you rename file "foo" to "foo1", does the problem still happen? Also, can you perhaps debug this in Edebug? I can provide guidance if needed. The function that refreshes the display is dired-do-redisplay, defined on dired-aux.el, and the actual refresh of the line of the affected file is in dired-update-file-line, also in dired-aux.el. Just step through these two functions and see what is going wrong there and where. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 12 07:59:44 2012 Received: (at 11902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2012 11:59:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35382 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpI3b-00011Z-Vv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 07:59:44 -0400 Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net ([68.230.241.216]:38285) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpI3Z-00011R-VP for 11902@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 07:59:42 -0400 Received: from eastrmimpo109.cox.net ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120712115409.RTVK5450.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo109.cox.net>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 07:54:09 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([72.200.136.181]) by eastrmimpo109.cox.net with bizsmtp id ZPu81j00C3v0BB402Pu9nP; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 07:54:09 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.4FFEBAE1.0059,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=9HMd7jR9KCc8p+qwB+ROrEvp+A6zOZycv59oE9Qyi2w= c=1 sm=1 a=sXpSnxhYk0UA:10 a=3mnXv579cEkA:10 a=5fTOHU_hwI0A:10 a=ucfg8XEUvC8SwGgVBsnGUQ==:17 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=suD4rU67MjhyCMtrUrMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=aiETy150nSW4I_cYJ4MA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=ii61gXl28gQA:10 a=ucfg8XEUvC8SwGgVBsnGUQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-ID: <4FFEBADF.30101@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 07:54:07 -0400 From: Bernard Stumpf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#11902: Emacs 23.2: dired rename file and file is hidden - Windows 7 References: <4FFC69B3.2030805@verizon.net> <83y5mqb81f.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFDB03B.5060906@verizon.net> <83obnmb372.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFE14C5.1040307@verizon.net> <83fw8xblw6.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83fw8xblw6.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080801020005070901080101" X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11902 Cc: 11902@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080801020005070901080101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have not noticed any sensitivity to the characters in "newname". I just created a file named "foo" and did an R to "foo1" - the line disappeared. I did the same with file "bar" to "bar1". Here's output in *Messages* ... (New file) Saving file c:/Users/bernie/bar... Wrote c:/Users/bernie/bar Overwrite `c:/Users/bernie/bar'? [Type yn!q or C-h] [5 times] Quit Move: 1 of 1 Move: 1 file ... As to using Edebug: I don't know Edebug. Is there a way to set breakpoints inside emacs from emacs? -Bernie Eli Zaretskii wrote at 01:15: >>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:05:25 -0400 >>From: Bernard Stumpf >>CC: 11902@debbugs.gnu.org >> >>I just tried it in an "emacs -Q" window. Did a dired of my Users home >>directory and there did an R of an existing file to "newname". The line >>containing the file disappeared. >> >>In other words: "emacs -Q" made no difference: the problem remains. >> >> > >Thanks. > >Does the "newname" affect the problem? E.g., if you rename file "foo" >to "foo1", does the problem still happen? > >Also, can you perhaps debug this in Edebug? I can provide guidance if >needed. The function that refreshes the display is >dired-do-redisplay, defined on dired-aux.el, and the actual refresh of >the line of the affected file is in dired-update-file-line, also in >dired-aux.el. Just step through these two functions and see what is >going wrong there and where. > > > > --------------080801020005070901080101 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have not noticed any sensitivity to the characters in "newname". I just created a file named "foo" and did an R to "foo1" - the line disappeared.

I did the same with file "bar" to "bar1". Here's output in *Messages*
...
(New file)
Saving file c:/Users/bernie/bar...
Wrote c:/Users/bernie/bar
Overwrite `c:/Users/bernie/bar'? [Type yn!q or C-h]  [5 times]
Quit
Move: 1 of 1
Move: 1 file
...

As to using Edebug: I don't know Edebug.  Is there a way to set breakpoints inside emacs from emacs?

-Bernie


Eli Zaretskii wrote at 01:15:
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 20:05:25 -0400
From: Bernard Stumpf <bernard.stumpf@verizon.net>
CC:  11902@debbugs.gnu.org

I just tried it in an "emacs -Q" window. Did a dired of my Users home 
directory and there did an R of an existing file to "newname".  The line 
containing the file disappeared.

In other words: "emacs -Q" made no difference: the problem remains.
    

Thanks.

Does the "newname" affect the problem?  E.g., if you rename file "foo"
to "foo1", does the problem still happen?

Also, can you perhaps debug this in Edebug?  I can provide guidance if
needed.  The function that refreshes the display is
dired-do-redisplay, defined on dired-aux.el, and the actual refresh of
the line of the affected file is in dired-update-file-line, also in
dired-aux.el.  Just step through these two functions and see what is
going wrong there and where.
--------------080801020005070901080101-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 12 08:53:17 2012 Received: (at 11902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2012 12:53:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35508 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpItR-0002GK-0e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:53:17 -0400 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:64799) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpItO-0002GB-Ft for 11902@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:53:15 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M7100900SSBH500@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 11902@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:47:41 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.210.75]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M71008K0SVGWBA0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:47:41 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:47:39 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#11902: Emacs 23.2: dired rename file and file is hidden - Windows 7 In-reply-to: <4FFEBADF.30101@verizon.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Bernard Stumpf Message-id: <838vepb0yc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4FFC69B3.2030805@verizon.net> <83y5mqb81f.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFDB03B.5060906@verizon.net> <83obnmb372.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFE14C5.1040307@verizon.net> <83fw8xblw6.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFEBADF.30101@verizon.net> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11902 Cc: 11902@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 07:54:07 -0400 > From: Bernard Stumpf > CC: 11902@debbugs.gnu.org > > I have not noticed any sensitivity to the characters in "newname". I > just created a file named "foo" and did an R to "foo1" - the line > disappeared. OK. > I did the same with file "bar" to "bar1". Here's output in *Messages* > ... > (New file) > Saving file c:/Users/bernie/bar... > Wrote c:/Users/bernie/bar > Overwrite `c:/Users/bernie/bar'? [Type yn!q or C-h] [5 times] Any idea what that "Overwrite" message was about? > As to using Edebug: I don't know Edebug. Is there a way to set > breakpoints inside emacs from emacs? Edebug _is_ used from inside Emacs. For example, to step through dired-do-redisplay and dired-update-file-line, you do this: emacs -Q M-x load-library dired-aux.el RET C-x d some/directory RET C-x C-f path/to/dired-aux.el RET go to the function dired-do-redisplay with cursor inside dired-do-redisplay's body, type: M-x edebug-defun RET This instruments dired-do-redisplay, such that when it is called, the debugger kicks in automatically. Think if this as a kind of a breakpoint you set on the function. Now, go to the Dired buffer to the line of the file you want to rename and press "R". Emacs will pop up a window with the source of dired-do-redisplay, with a small arrow at the left showing the current line. Typing SPC repeatedly will step through the code one Lisp form at a time, and will also show in the echo area the result of evaluating each form, so you can track what Emacs does and why. To step into dired-update-file-line, type 'i' when you get just before the form that calls that function; then step through dired-update-file-line by repeatedly typing SPC again. Easy enough, isn't it? >From what you describe, I'd expect that dired-update-file-line deletes the line of the file being renamed, but then doesn't add the line for the new file, for some reason. The addition is done by dired-add-entry, which dired-update-file-line calls; you can step into it by typing 'i' again. The information you obtain by stepping through these functions will probably get us much closer to resolving the problem, if not point out the problem right away. And just for the record: the way to reproduce the problem on that machine is just the following sequence, and nothing else, right? emacs -Q C-x d RET go to some file type R foo RET There's nothing else you do except the above sequence, correct? Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 12 09:36:13 2012 Received: (at 11902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2012 13:36:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35612 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpJYy-0003EU-Pu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:36:13 -0400 Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net ([68.230.241.218]:33276) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpJYv-0003EM-HI for 11902@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:36:10 -0400 Received: from eastrmimpo305.cox.net ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120712133036.YNON18532.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo305.cox.net>; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:30:36 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([72.200.136.181]) by eastrmimpo305.cox.net with bizsmtp id ZRWb1j0043v0BB402RWbyT; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:30:36 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.4FFED17C.00F3,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=BVyT7h+t3ityXLBgEmLzYQZBSaYV0O3qTPjyTgNRzn0= c=1 sm=1 a=sXpSnxhYk0UA:10 a=3mnXv579cEkA:10 a=5fTOHU_hwI0A:10 a=ucfg8XEUvC8SwGgVBsnGUQ==:17 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=6VnZLV8GTGqv333rR5gA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=StVYY9tD0UHwJVndkjEA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=ii61gXl28gQA:10 a=ucfg8XEUvC8SwGgVBsnGUQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-ID: <4FFED179.6040802@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:30:33 -0400 From: Bernard Stumpf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#11902: Emacs 23.2: dired rename file and file is hidden - Windows 7 References: <4FFC69B3.2030805@verizon.net> <83y5mqb81f.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFDB03B.5060906@verizon.net> <83obnmb372.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFE14C5.1040307@verizon.net> <83fw8xblw6.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFEBADF.30101@verizon.net> <838vepb0yc.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <838vepb0yc.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030608060104040601070809" X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11902 Cc: 11902@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030608060104040601070809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The overwrite with "bar" was caused by me: hitting return on rename and not typing "bar1". I will try out the Edebug and get back to you later. As to the sequence I usually do, you are very close. I usually already have the dired buffer open from before. It is: C-x b Bernie down arrow to someFile R newName RET (in minibuffer after "Rename someFile to: ~/" ) -Bernie Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 07:54:07 -0400 >>From: Bernard Stumpf >>CC: 11902@debbugs.gnu.org >> >>I have not noticed any sensitivity to the characters in "newname". I >>just created a file named "foo" and did an R to "foo1" - the line >>disappeared. >> >> > >OK. > > > >>I did the same with file "bar" to "bar1". Here's output in *Messages* >>... >>(New file) >>Saving file c:/Users/bernie/bar... >>Wrote c:/Users/bernie/bar >>Overwrite `c:/Users/bernie/bar'? [Type yn!q or C-h] [5 times] >> >> > >Any idea what that "Overwrite" message was about? > > > >>As to using Edebug: I don't know Edebug. Is there a way to set >>breakpoints inside emacs from emacs? >> >> > >Edebug _is_ used from inside Emacs. For example, to step through >dired-do-redisplay and dired-update-file-line, you do this: > > emacs -Q > M-x load-library dired-aux.el RET > C-x d some/directory RET > C-x C-f path/to/dired-aux.el RET > go to the function dired-do-redisplay > with cursor inside dired-do-redisplay's body, type: > M-x edebug-defun RET > >This instruments dired-do-redisplay, such that when it is called, the >debugger kicks in automatically. Think if this as a kind of a >breakpoint you set on the function. > >Now, go to the Dired buffer to the line of the file you want to rename >and press "R". Emacs will pop up a window with the source of >dired-do-redisplay, with a small arrow at the left showing the current >line. Typing SPC repeatedly will step through the code one Lisp form >at a time, and will also show in the echo area the result of >evaluating each form, so you can track what Emacs does and why. To >step into dired-update-file-line, type 'i' when you get just before >the form that calls that function; then step through >dired-update-file-line by repeatedly typing SPC again. > >Easy enough, isn't it? > >>>From what you describe, I'd expect that dired-update-file-line deletes >the line of the file being renamed, but then doesn't add the line for >the new file, for some reason. The addition is done by >dired-add-entry, which dired-update-file-line calls; you can step into >it by typing 'i' again. > >The information you obtain by stepping through these functions will >probably get us much closer to resolving the problem, if not point out >the problem right away. > >And just for the record: the way to reproduce the problem on that >machine is just the following sequence, and nothing else, right? > > emacs -Q > C-x d RET > go to some file > type R foo RET > >There's nothing else you do except the above sequence, correct? > >Thanks. > --------------030608060104040601070809 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The overwrite with "bar" was caused by me: hitting return on rename and not typing "bar1".

I will try out the Edebug and get back to you later.  As to the sequence I usually do, you are very close. I usually already have the dired buffer open from before. It is:

C-x b Bernie
down arrow to someFile
R newName RET  (in minibuffer after "Rename someFile to: ~/"  )

-Bernie

Eli Zaretskii wrote:
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 07:54:07 -0400
From: Bernard Stumpf <bernard.stumpf@verizon.net>
CC:  11902@debbugs.gnu.org

I have not noticed any sensitivity to the characters in "newname". I 
just created a file named "foo" and did an R to "foo1" - the line 
disappeared.
    

OK.

  
I did the same with file "bar" to "bar1". Here's output in *Messages*
...
(New file)
Saving file c:/Users/bernie/bar...
Wrote c:/Users/bernie/bar
Overwrite `c:/Users/bernie/bar'? [Type yn!q or C-h]  [5 times]
    

Any idea what that "Overwrite" message was about?

  
As to using Edebug: I don't know Edebug.  Is there a way to set 
breakpoints inside emacs from emacs?
    

Edebug _is_ used from inside Emacs.  For example, to step through
dired-do-redisplay and dired-update-file-line, you do this:

  emacs -Q
  M-x load-library dired-aux.el RET
  C-x d some/directory RET
  C-x C-f path/to/dired-aux.el RET
  go to the function dired-do-redisplay
  with cursor inside dired-do-redisplay's body, type:
    M-x edebug-defun RET

This instruments dired-do-redisplay, such that when it is called, the
debugger kicks in automatically.  Think if this as a kind of a
breakpoint you set on the function.

Now, go to the Dired buffer to the line of the file you want to rename
and press "R".  Emacs will pop up a window with the source of
dired-do-redisplay, with a small arrow at the left showing the current
line.  Typing SPC repeatedly will step through the code one Lisp form
at a time, and will also show in the echo area the result of
evaluating each form, so you can track what Emacs does and why.  To
step into dired-update-file-line, type 'i' when you get just before
the form that calls that function; then step through
dired-update-file-line by repeatedly typing SPC again.

Easy enough, isn't it?

>From what you describe, I'd expect that dired-update-file-line deletes
the line of the file being renamed, but then doesn't add the line for
the new file, for some reason.  The addition is done by
dired-add-entry, which dired-update-file-line calls; you can step into
it by typing 'i' again.

The information you obtain by stepping through these functions will
probably get us much closer to resolving the problem, if not point out
the problem right away.

And just for the record: the way to reproduce the problem on that
machine is just the following sequence, and nothing else, right?

  emacs -Q
  C-x d RET
  go to some file
  type R foo RET

There's nothing else you do except the above sequence, correct?

Thanks.
--------------030608060104040601070809-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 31 02:13:37 2019 Received: (at 11902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Oct 2019 06:13:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52024 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQ3iD-0004AT-65 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 02:13:37 -0400 Received: from giraff.fripost.org ([193.234.15.44]:43400 helo=outgoing.fripost.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iQ3iC-0004AH-4Y for 11902@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 02:13:36 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outgoing.fripost.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6210187F9D4; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 07:13:30 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=x.fripost.org; h= message-id:in-reply-to:date:date:references:subject:subject:from :from; s=9df9cdc7e101629b5003b587945afa70; t=1572502410; x= 1574316811; bh=P9DRsfo2j/jUyoS7H7Z/fvDHJaRkLyvGJ2uQIxf0K2U=; b=Q foO8mhojCfcNcrKmXLl0SDffcEMyvsznP0cT9jF9iyHGe59KKWmAe2vYJ3UqWp1F 1Fzmy8eLfsIm7XMLmr7vTB+knYsrJqdG2WEgmKeZKdzmUhczcFn/EJsmN/QORz6o ejxtcVvHsD3r97ID6CGE1Ld9S1io3FNvxSLmqUVE/2dNex4Qh01STURlvK5r2Orl ErHyJ21eewSAiVFyrJ8ZPvCu0d+nVKDUSpP3YOZnDBlkIAuxeYA+YdXjr80nIfyv zcYxNCPU8pLKD1HRr5TaxJr8m03DMc4m5k5k112Fk8Rd9AGCgJiQnskERTA0aZ2U CDiEySQOQXTvnVLcjZ4Mw== X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fripost.org Received: from outgoing.fripost.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (giraff.fripost.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10040) with LMTP id iIyJj9DMIYiJ; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 07:13:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.fripost.org (unknown [172.16.0.6]) by outgoing.fripost.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA3A187F9D0; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 07:13:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by smtp.fripost.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 59EA959A2532; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 07:13:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from skangas by joffe.skangas.se with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iQ3ht-0001h3-JB; Thu, 31 Oct 2019 07:13:17 +0100 From: Stefan Kangas To: Bernard Stumpf Subject: Re: bug#11902: Emacs 23.2: dired rename file and file is hidden - Windows 7 References: <4FFC69B3.2030805@verizon.net> <83y5mqb81f.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFDB03B.5060906@verizon.net> <83obnmb372.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFE14C5.1040307@verizon.net> <83fw8xblw6.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFEBADF.30101@verizon.net> <838vepb0yc.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFED179.6040802@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 01:53:20 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4FFED179.6040802@verizon.net> (Bernard Stumpf's message of "Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:30:33 -0400") Message-ID: <87sgn9loqn.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11902 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 11902@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Bernard Stumpf writes: > The overwrite with "bar" was caused by me: hitting return on rename and not typing "bar1". > > I will try out the Edebug and get back to you later. That was 7 years ago. Are you still seeing this? If yes, did you ever get around to trying this in edebug? It seems like we would need the information gained by doing that in order to make any progress here. 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Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:45206 helo=localhost) by ted.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1icoyt-001EBc-5G; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 06:07:35 -0500 From: Stefan Kangas To: Bernard Stumpf Subject: Re: bug#11902: Emacs 23.2: dired rename file and file is hidden - Windows 7 In-Reply-To: <87sgn9loqn.fsf@gmail.com> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Thu, 31 Oct 2019 01:53:20 +0100") References: <4FFC69B3.2030805@verizon.net> <83y5mqb81f.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFDB03B.5060906@verizon.net> <83obnmb372.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFE14C5.1040307@verizon.net> <83fw8xblw6.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFEBADF.30101@verizon.net> <838vepb0yc.fsf@gnu.org> <4FFED179.6040802@verizon.net> <87sgn9loqn.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 12:07:32 +0100 Message-ID: <87fthzghe3.fsf@marxist.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ted.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ted.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: ted.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11902-done Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 11902-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas writes: > Bernard Stumpf writes: > >> The overwrite with "bar" was caused by me: hitting return on rename and not typing "bar1". >> >> I will try out the Edebug and get back to you later. > > That was 7 years ago. Are you still seeing this? > > If yes, did you ever get around to trying this in edebug? It seems like > we would need the information gained by doing that in order to make any > progress here. More information was requested, but none was given within 5 weeks, so I'm closing this bug. If this is still an issue, please reply to this email (use "Reply to all" in your email client) and we can reopen the bug report. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From unknown Tue Jun 17 20:18:10 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 12:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator