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24.1; "scroll-bar-mode disabled" not honored when emacs started as daemon

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reynaldo Baquerizo <reynaldomic <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.1; "scroll-bar-mode disabled" not honored when emacs started as
	daemon
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:14:12 -0500

In my .emacs file I keep this

(if (fboundp 'menu-bar-mode) (menu-bar-mode -1))
(if (fboundp 'tool-bar-mode) (tool-bar-mode -1))
(if (fboundp 'scroll-bar-mode) (scroll-bar-mode -1))

- I start emacs as a daemon. emacs --daemon
- I create a new frame. emacsclient -c

I expect:
A frame with no scroll-bar

Instead I get:
A frame with scroll-bar

Additional:
(fboundp 'scroll-bar-mode) evaluates to true. I checked this adding the
following and can see in buffer *Messages* the debug message.

(when (fboundp 'scroll-bar-mode)
      (scroll-bar-mode -1)
      (message "[DBG] scroll-bar-mode disabled"))

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In GNU Emacs 24.1.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10)
 of 2012-06-11 on bitzer.hoetzel.info
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11202000
Configured using:
 `configure '--prefix=/usr' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib'
 '--localstatedir=/var' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--with-xft'
 'CFLAGS=-march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector
 --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2'
 'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: en_US.utf8
  value of $LC_MONETARY: es_PE.utf8
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: es_PE.utf8
  value of $LC_TIME: es_PE.utf8
  value of $LANG: es_PE.utf8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Emacs-Lisp

Minor modes in effect:
  display-time-mode: t
  auto-insert-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  delete-selection-mode: t
  ido-everywhere: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up>
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up>
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<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <down> <down> <down>
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> C-g C-M-SPC C-g
C-M-d C-M-d C-M-u C-M-SPC C-g C-M-f C-f C-M-SPC C-g
C-M-u <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> M-x e m a c s - C-SPC
b v u <backspace> <backspace> u g C-s C-s <return>

Recent messages:
~/.emacs and /home/rbm/dotemacs/.emacs are the same file
(No changes need to be saved)
Mark saved where search started
byte-code: Beginning of buffer [13 times]
Quit
Mark set
Quit
Mark set
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Mark set
Quit

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None found.

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Message #8 received at 11830 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Reynaldo Baquerizo <reynaldomic <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 11830 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11830: 24.1;
	"scroll-bar-mode disabled" not honored when emacs started as daemon
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2012 15:05:05 -0400

Reynaldo Baquerizo wrote:

> In my .emacs file I keep this
>
> (if (fboundp 'menu-bar-mode) (menu-bar-mode -1))
> (if (fboundp 'tool-bar-mode) (tool-bar-mode -1))
> (if (fboundp 'scroll-bar-mode) (scroll-bar-mode -1))
>
> - I start emacs as a daemon. emacs --daemon
> - I create a new frame. emacsclient -c
>
> I expect:
> A frame with no scroll-bar

Works for me. I tried both Gtk and Lucid toolkit builds.

> In GNU Emacs 24.1.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10)
>  of 2012-06-11 on bitzer.hoetzel.info

Message #11 received at 11830 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reynaldo Baquerizo <reynaldomic <at> gmail.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 11830 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11830: 24.1; "scroll-bar-mode disabled" not honored when
	emacs started as daemon
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 14:54:57 -0500

> > In my .emacs file I keep this
> >
> > (if (fboundp 'menu-bar-mode) (menu-bar-mode -1))
> > (if (fboundp 'tool-bar-mode) (tool-bar-mode -1))
> > (if (fboundp 'scroll-bar-mode) (scroll-bar-mode -1))
> >
> > - I start emacs as a daemon. emacs --daemon
> > - I create a new frame. emacsclient -c
> >
> > I expect:
> > A frame with no scroll-bar
> 
> Works for me. I tried both Gtk and Lucid toolkit builds.

I left only those lines in my .emacs file and it did work.
Later I found that messing with default-frame-alist produced the unwanted result.

(setq default-frame-alist '((font . "Monaco-11"))

If instead I use:
(add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(font . "Monaco-11"))

then it's OK.

It's a bit confusing the behaviour of frame related parameterers when used --daemon.

With the .emacs working file the value of default-parameter-list is

Its value is ((width . 112)
 (height . 30)
 (font . "Monaco-11")
 (vertical-scroll-bars))

I know that when --daemon is used initial-parameter-list has no effect, but
default-parameter-list does. 

Then, that (vertical-scroll-bars) shouldn't make new frames have a scroll-bar?

Message #14 received at 11830 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Reynaldo Baquerizo <reynaldomic <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 11830 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11830: 24.1;
	"scroll-bar-mode disabled" not honored when emacs started as daemon
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2012 20:49:25 -0400

Reynaldo Baquerizo wrote:

> Later I found that messing with default-frame-alist produced the
> unwanted result.
>
> (setq default-frame-alist '((font . "Monaco-11"))

I think that explains it.

> With the .emacs working file the value of default-parameter-list is
>
> Its value is ((width . 112)
>  (height . 30)
>  (font . "Monaco-11")
>  (vertical-scroll-bars))

The last one can be written as (vertical-scroll-bars . nil).
By setq'ing default-frame-alist, you were clobbering this setting.

Message #17 received at 11830 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Reynaldo Baquerizo <reynaldomic <at> gmail.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 11830 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11830: 24.1; "scroll-bar-mode disabled" not honored when
	emacs started as daemon
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 20:56:13 -0500

> > Later I found that messing with default-frame-alist produced the
> > unwanted result.
> >
> > (setq default-frame-alist '((font . "Monaco-11"))
> 
> I think that explains it.
> 
> > With the .emacs working file the value of default-parameter-list is
> >
> > Its value is ((width . 112)
> >  (height . 30)
> >  (font . "Monaco-11")
> >  (vertical-scroll-bars))
> 
> The last one can be written as (vertical-scroll-bars . nil).
> By setq'ing default-frame-alist, you were clobbering this setting.

Ach, I see. Sorry for the noise.

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