From unknown Fri Aug 15 12:53:39 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#11731 <11731@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#11731 <11731@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks Reply-To: bug#11731 <11731@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 19:53:39 +0000 retitle 11731 gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks reassign 11731 gnus submitter 11731 Dave Abrahams severity 11731 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 17 15:26:16 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jun 2012 19:26:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46120 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SgL71-0000Tk-8r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:26:16 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f44.google.com ([209.85.210.44]:39781) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SgL6z-0000TY-9i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:26:14 -0400 Received: by dacx6 with SMTP id x6so5669269dac.3 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:23:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:x-debbugs-version:x-debbugs-package:date:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=BnGm58fhGFCAOUr3fl0Y1zc3Bbj8gljPX8wL8215Op0=; b=ke9Hdb9iT9ARbQfEOBVyGQb1kZa2b2GRlqUg0q+abpLEtzx7ajA/1a9FBZtexEh5aZ 0rZ/6QAv6lMUc3m/qPfkqtkT0x2OAyXQVfY/Erc1M+xVVHSaBk/jddGZKXATBZ7AjrUt 3PP3NoFYZHwfGgBLYmgaM7L09uqYVBMzxl9zA7Atx6xJ5yyF65mhAdQtx8FAk06Q4Auf KUzA2l8BTU+m4SeZY6h2sHT8UAR/qh/DvXeJUVakwT71AW2tEn0IsUL17b4alL2iQcGE nxaXDnescanmhwI33+mN7DnUbtKv+hFZ5YhiilGMjW2NSo16T8V4J8WA3rqJ8teXHay5 qMrw== Received: by 10.68.231.10 with SMTP id tc10mr23409204pbc.107.1339960980727; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.local ([67.139.65.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id os9sm21083320pbb.62.2012.06.17.12.22.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 14AD65321232; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:22:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks X-Debbugs-Version: 5.130006 X-Debbugs-Package: gnus Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:22:51 -0700 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.0.94 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQntYN1GfZW3FBY0C1hHu+BaKVRd6vT4rc3dHd/bbPucExBBJhfSTWMok9phSvN2q4RhqjxI X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) I'm confused. According to the docs gnus-summary-rescan-group is supposed to "Exit the newsgroup, ask for new articles, and select the newsgroup." However, when I use it, articles I've marked expirable remain in the group and lose their expirable marks. I was expecting those articles to be deleted, as that's what happens when I actually exit and re-enter the group. This is on my INBOX, which is presumably controlled by the following customization: '(gnus-parameters (quote (("^INBOX" (expiry-wait . immediate) (expiry-target . delete) (display . [or (not reply) (not expire)]))))) Ma Gnus v0.6 GNU Emacs 24.0.94.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin11.4.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0 AppKit 1138.47) of 2012-05-24 on pluto.luannocracy.com -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 20 13:59:55 2012 Received: (at 11731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jun 2012 17:59:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50159 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ShPC7-0004Qo-Bk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:59:55 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:57992) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ShPC5-0004Qg-EE for 11731@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:59:54 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ShP8c-0007ol-Mp; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:56:18 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEVoaWi7u7lOT04pJyeF hYT39/cF+hMeAAACcElEQVQ4jU2TzXbjIAyFZUL2kMAeC7LPmM4ePPI+tNb7v8oI7LQlwSfxh65+ AT5X64/dv/8yyF7zzNxf1XL9Df7FnP90g08q+hfYn/d1yt2gWCj+B9zzhab8VxxoN4XrD8iilPPC bKqp8K0FLVfnyr/MTH7dCN5a8PlETJeYtza14i28teArkfkgulzbtnvfiL7BgjEi5kfzTmTsWwu+ 8rEekl8vQKgnuJ/gyvsA+AbWBkiQyPMtVWtfwfgT8ESb3aSI5G9Shwln/wPcxnaf2VZuTqXTwlcn oHmz4uSwBiVnDx9srWfHgBgUrgC0nWBI2j0kvN4SKtB0AutbZf9SxblWqa56HO3AWilQQZdw282G 9At4bnpdZzW/ppbJ8y+w+1tO6fFKKkseEhfUQdiwifNkC8b8FPvmDwvL4B0mR1qAmn2zb+AW3wAD hWSCKrpZfoNsvVG6KH3JgCLvgQ4SZRiUQlB5USFoa4Gq7f7vng0QgTQTY6gdiE7vw+YdrEEnFT+K PkH3wQ/rwG4mxCwx0AAjE2m4C4XK8AEDkBvANQu4BHpiFuBcB7WHd5NEFIZdxQVROy1A4nJky8Zm qtJDeY9BpKQvlRyxm/mlrZLRw0XJ2QPIYFrNu7QWg0w+9AShUF/slDRLkpZ4l5BIAAkpha1cppd2 CuMSn0ETyJYlV9HI0Gkpl2QYMVGvtaDC7CZpm8yQ+Ig5aPklaiDD3w7QnWeJoYMAGrYOGpQu1a9k BwFkpWFRxOQyAHYLESswRkNaUkoHcYFeACWfcSlfQRc6tAaQfQx/q4X00MogEYy1jFthjdbrCRZp c/+O4WdDpAf4D+Rr0XoeMkbcAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Oneohtrix Point Never's _Replica_: "Andro" Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:56:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:22:51 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1ShP8c-0007ol-Mp X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1340819778.76543@EuOzNXaK6OjZRKWhUlmaUg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11731 Cc: 11731@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Dave Abrahams writes: > I'm confused. According to the docs gnus-summary-rescan-group is > supposed to "Exit the newsgroup, ask for new articles, and select the > newsgroup." However, when I use it, articles I've marked expirable > remain in the group and lose their expirable marks. I was expecting > those articles to be deleted, as that's what happens when I actually > exit and re-enter the group. That function basically just calls `gnus-summary-exit', so whatever happens when that command is called should also happen when `gnus-summary-rescan-group', as far as I can tell from the code. Do you have any hooks or customisations that may do something odd here? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 18 13:32:29 2012 Received: (at 11731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2012 17:32:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48827 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrY6t-0002vd-1j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:32:28 -0400 Received: from mail-qc0-f172.google.com ([209.85.216.172]:40344) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SrY6q-0002vU-Eh for 11731@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:32:25 -0400 Received: by qcac10 with SMTP id c10so1203206qca.3 for <11731@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:26:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=6cGdKyD9ms/FXVOtn4gTzbmf+Hipeae2U2CuK7TxqpQ=; b=WoOHljLyofOSqn3xS+Z8cDUGi/E6jHbWUum7ibkiisLrvjf9SJZL/8wNKmqK7FnGM9 kjSQzQxBxAGQznIwUEWs4mb0IF6rfwBl/1pK+bHowir0mTpyRYWbUVXhU+AjWvbFwdJV rrFgGCFBrcfTXFEjVDp1pou1sO39wEtnFhowqrvbUBS8jZb48S9Yo6VjcU/8R5KeakIu JkjR6YjWFeBZt6+G0xUqekbIDeFEu0xd+zooAlJoeAwKisNJYqRtH2NgObUKmKIchJw6 5QUE3fwr/1FMd1Ik4JlqjHZA2kQSZSRNaUa/0gpxOgoXrmPs/XDfzVGm52ahSOopR/g4 NVVg== Received: by 10.224.77.11 with SMTP id e11mr7222163qak.95.1342632377080; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p12sm29924682qae.0.2012.07.18.10.26.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 8BC895B47745; Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:26:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks References: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:26:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:56:18 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQldnzTIzlIsnql2BY+UdRz47aYhH8wYDsloIgw/mxciPl41SJ7XXO2IYCzTKglHTkrYR29A X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11731 Cc: 11731@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) on Wed Jun 20 2012, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >> I'm confused. According to the docs gnus-summary-rescan-group is >> supposed to "Exit the newsgroup, ask for new articles, and select the >> newsgroup." However, when I use it, articles I've marked expirable >> remain in the group and lose their expirable marks. I was expecting >> those articles to be deleted, as that's what happens when I actually >> exit and re-enter the group. > > That function basically just calls `gnus-summary-exit', so whatever > happens when that command is called should also happen when > `gnus-summary-rescan-group', as far as I can tell from the code. > > Do you have any hooks or customisations that may do something odd here? I don't know. Of course I have lots of hooks and customizations; it's hard to know which of these might interfere. Here they are for your amusement, though: https://github.com/dabrahams/dwamacs/blob/master/settings/gnus-settings.el -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 05 14:43:05 2012 Received: (at 11731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2012 18:43:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40994 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9KZ7-0004FG-Fb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:43:05 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:48224) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9KZ5-0004F9-Jk for 11731@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:43:04 -0400 Received: from ip-200-13-149-91.dialup.ice.net ([91.149.13.200] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9KYn-0002db-So; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:42:46 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks References: X-Now-Playing: Isotope 217's _The Unstable Molecule_ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:42:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:26:14 -0400") Message-ID: <871uigs44c.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1T9KYn-0002db-So X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1347475366.66105@HglUFMwL/Jp55PdAsEywUA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11731 Cc: 11731@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Dave Abrahams writes: > I don't know. Of course I have lots of hooks and customizations; it's > hard to know which of these might interfere. Here they are for your > amusement, though: > > https://github.com/dabrahams/dwamacs/blob/master/settings/gnus-settings.el I can't look through that. Could you just edebug through `gnus-summary-exit' and see what doesn't happen? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 17 16:47:08 2012 Received: (at 11731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2012 20:47:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40375 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDiDj-0007zx-5w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:47:08 -0400 Received: from mail-qc0-f172.google.com ([209.85.216.172]:46263) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDiDg-0007zq-QS for 11731@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:47:05 -0400 Received: by qcac10 with SMTP id c10so5878003qca.3 for <11731@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:45:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=pqwQZH257Dg+d3bg62DHDwIT3Yipmio7EJ/jKYSfFsU=; b=YmyUJv2HkjGlA+oQ7H9LS0NBdIUETd63gdZxNBYRK/nBuBr++cbu4G6rbJ1FfDzlEG 8VOj/yHnuhBSPyXQUVoc4RfNDVaf/bNvV0k5Yxa0npn0uSDWmXic0cs8hyml+am6Cmpw BkwBgnwL0q1EJW2ta/hz8ElV1VttGwQKgAgh+cBYCU6JsNHUdTziVH41yTWQj3xDaWI5 MdqzHyyzP3xlwCmWH3Inly4kXsVVjt2HnZn9m/ITRrZ7Ax2YksR042JYet3G7g/PY5Ju lzAV2lggVsSqWLvjmEE3TAVNIhDFDHLjv5Qpa09gwws4EOuiOqy+9B2ls4CFyMJlWhFu h9Lg== Received: by 10.229.137.133 with SMTP id w5mr8225668qct.21.1347914748356; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.local (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m4sm16576023qak.6.2012.09.17.13.45.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 48BF462B5032; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:45:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks References: <871uigs44c.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:45:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871uigs44c.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:42:43 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnnSeEjJSa5GjqMb2jSlIG4TKo4Ocxw5nCkWk9Xr2jtA5cIq9Pvww+HSYInaAPdRcYC2fLP X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11731 Cc: 11731@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) on Wed Sep 05 2012, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >> I don't know. Of course I have lots of hooks and customizations; it's >> hard to know which of these might interfere. Here they are for your >> amusement, though: >> >> https://github.com/dabrahams/dwamacs/blob/master/settings/gnus-settings.el > > I can't look through that. Could you just edebug through > `gnus-summary-exit' and see what doesn't happen? This appears to be a transient problem; I'm having a hard time reproducing it now, but I know I've seen it in the past few weeks. Might as well close this bug until I can give a more reliable report. -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing Software Development Training http://www.boostpro.com Clang/LLVM/EDG Compilers C++ Boost From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 26 09:51:04 2012 Received: (at 11731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Sep 2012 13:51:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56564 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TGs12-0000St-8N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:51:04 -0400 Received: from mail-qc0-f172.google.com ([209.85.216.172]:50993) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TGs0y-0000ST-S2 for 11731@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:51:02 -0400 Received: by qcac10 with SMTP id c10so528597qca.3 for <11731@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:51:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=a2Oym1Igczk1yfjHD5+wtPtGJAhPxRrKIfJnQebb+Tg=; b=pqoFrRDp3Jpw85ScWBE7Rb55KGTOa24xPbEjxbjvc6Uyz/6emRshc9k710LLsAUEWB EM3D/k7i/YFAmNt9UxeCDAVYLt0E0iUH2Wu3ekYbTLt7gH0Y9T7U5R3SqHUD5rcMIvDE GPYcJ7mUZjmdJHzBpqW3rigGqmqNtbszdwNYhk27lrouzyUdu7+BYOZoXI/d8qxWtK6j dxToIyThSl4sWe6h31l9nUEo/XDsfsQCxtpcGkbo1McgpmOpbBw6KoyXBfhc2VLM7xM/ MZMYUU6gm4AVMOVL8rs49bcqgS/V0iSYeKkBUsHNd7xV4IXgSYBnEc+UdWsNlSHw4VSJ Ew3A== Received: by 10.229.135.203 with SMTP id o11mr382321qct.90.1348667460692; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.local (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d11sm4815526qaj.18.2012.09.26.06.50.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1EE27640AFCE; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:50:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks References: <871uigs44c.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:50:57 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:45:39 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnR5eT+pf2t/F23AUbxrnhu5q77692YG4XMZ+MAADtp8DiW4jcWhpCt8yXL1QWwm2biXh0O X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11731 Cc: 11731@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) on Mon Sep 17 2012, Dave Abrahams wrote: > on Wed Sep 05 2012, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > >> Dave Abrahams writes: >> >>> I don't know. Of course I have lots of hooks and customizations; it's >>> hard to know which of these might interfere. Here they are for your >>> amusement, though: >>> >>> https://github.com/dabrahams/dwamacs/blob/master/settings/gnus-settings.el >> >> I can't look through that. Could you just edebug through >> `gnus-summary-exit' and see what doesn't happen? > > This appears to be a transient problem; I'm having a hard time > reproducing it now, but I know I've seen it in the past few weeks. > Might as well close this bug until I can give a more reliable report. Well, it's happening again. Messages that I've marked expirable keep coming back after `M-g' in the summary buffer. I don't know what's causing it of course; is there anything I can do to gather useful information that will help debug it? -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing Software Development Training http://www.boostpro.com Clang/LLVM/EDG Compilers C++ Boost From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 25 12:17:19 2012 Received: (at 11731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2012 17:17:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59484 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnY7u-0001pJ-Of for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:17:19 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:48660) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnY7p-0001p8-9l for 11731@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:17:14 -0500 Received: from ip-90-20-179-93.dialup.ice.net ([93.179.20.90] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnY72-000524-9v; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 18:16:21 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks References: <871uigs44c.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Winston Tong's _Theoretically Chinese_ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 18:16:17 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:50:57 -0400") Message-ID: <87licm3vdq.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1TnY72-000524-9v X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1357060583.06874@VevE8GlCWKJ+9Dpp2X4MUg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11731 Cc: 11731@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Dave Abrahams writes: >>> Could you just edebug through `gnus-summary-exit' and see what >>> doesn't happen? >> >> This appears to be a transient problem; I'm having a hard time >> reproducing it now, but I know I've seen it in the past few weeks. >> Might as well close this bug until I can give a more reliable report. > > Well, it's happening again. Messages that I've marked expirable keep > coming back after `M-g' in the summary buffer. I don't know what's > causing it of course; is there anything I can do to gather useful > information that will help debug it? Stepping through `gnus-summary-exit' with edebug is probably the most helpful thing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 06 13:55:41 2013 Received: (at 11731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2013 17:55:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35161 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvWhw-0005mw-J9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 13:55:41 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:33850) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvWhp-0005md-EF for 11731@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 13:55:37 -0400 Received: from 46.157.223.218.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.157.223.218] helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UvWhb-0003jm-F7; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 19:55:19 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks References: <871uigs44c.fsf@gnus.org> <87licm3vdq.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 19:55:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87licm3vdq.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 25 Dec 2012 18:16:17 +0100") Message-ID: <87r4fblgjo.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1UvWhb-0003jm-F7 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1373738120.73113@1t3XF1BNg6bqEf09Z9IJJQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11731 Cc: 11731@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> Well, it's happening again. Messages that I've marked expirable keep >> coming back after `M-g' in the summary buffer. I don't know what's >> causing it of course; is there anything I can do to gather useful >> information that will help debug it? > > Stepping through `gnus-summary-exit' with edebug is probably the most > helpful thing. Did you try doing this? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 08 10:59:58 2013 Received: (at 11731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jul 2013 14:59:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39532 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwCuz-0004ui-HB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:59:57 -0400 Received: from mail-ye0-f174.google.com ([209.85.213.174]:49018) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UwCux-0004uV-Ec for 11731@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:59:56 -0400 Received: by mail-ye0-f174.google.com with SMTP id m9so1656927yen.19 for <11731@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 07:59:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to:x-gm-message-state; bh=USYJX28gpsV6V5xEr9lOI42v74qC9XwFHZOEOhI5pTk=; b=mhOYF9XIE5reh5y51Ie0KhgbaJn0bxP1iao4kDx44CNzTMtKRD1uXxLhVU8xP1QwEe oMoEzZhGSkBKhnwH98nen+Wvvl2OMiIrMrh7VhvQhZYKQ3AT6D33NctmXKIuA5cK1jt4 K9X7kw4ebV44Da0Jg1sw36kTR7r0N15aCT4gjwm/1Sj0Zo2j6/1WCKZdqdT0GL7W3xVA 52kxJZHZn42S6ZmVTPboPiaiILDId5sRnSRFY/NKrFrBHaFY/kKrwr+VCJuN4HqIMq68 4psXuPsHRUNc7yLI3WF4Reh1CknYndmxkLZCf8BcQo4EIvr26VnM7SU6HHSkBm2cTdWE 0+kg== X-Received: by 10.236.186.39 with SMTP id v27mr12241259yhm.99.1373295589616; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 07:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.188.128] (107-219-149-247.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [107.219.149.247]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w12sm37547894yhj.19.2013.07.08.07.59.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 08 Jul 2013 07:59:49 -0700 (PDT) References: <871uigs44c.fsf@gnus.org> <87licm3vdq.fsf@gnus.org> <87r4fblgjo.fsf@building.gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <87r4fblgjo.fsf@building.gnus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <58EF658C-4722-401A-A562-A6223178E802@boostpro.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:59:50 -0700 To: Lars Ingebrigtsen X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlVcOwoqtRrdGQvoLDUtLLukfjM/q40KOlYbiY4sVZ/y4inEeRfRVHBX29f0AKD123osmwY X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11731 Cc: "11731@debbugs.gnu.org" <11731@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Sorry, no time Sent from my illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >>> Well, it's happening again. Messages that I've marked expirable keep >>> coming back after `M-g' in the summary buffer. I don't know what's >>> causing it of course; is there anything I can do to gather useful >>> information that will help debug it? >> >> Stepping through `gnus-summary-exit' with edebug is probably the most >> helpful thing. > > Did you try doing this? > > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 30 18:12:12 2014 Received: (at 11731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2014 23:12:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41878 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W90mJ-0001nO-Vr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:12:12 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:33816) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W90mI-0001nH-Du for 11731@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:12:10 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1W90m3-0001wj-Na; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 00:11:56 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks References: <871uigs44c.fsf@gnus.org> <87licm3vdq.fsf@gnus.org> <87r4fblgjo.fsf@building.gnus.org> <58EF658C-4722-401A-A562-A6223178E802@boostpro.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:11:07 -0800 In-Reply-To: <58EF658C-4722-401A-A562-A6223178E802@boostpro.com> (Dave Abrahams's message of "Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:59:50 -0700") Message-ID: <871tzpcbg4.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1W90m3-0001wj-Na X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1391728317.09989@ARH7vnA9hSNRJ0UReYL2GQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11731 Cc: 11731@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Dave Abrahams writes: > Sorry, no time More data was requested a year ago, but none were giving, so I'm closing this bug report. Please reopen if further progress is made. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 30 18:12:22 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2014 23:12:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41881 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W90mU-0001no-L1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:12:22 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:33826) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W90mS-0001nf-Cs for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:12:20 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1W90m9-0001ws-QN for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 00:12:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:11:13 -0800 Message-Id: <87zjmdawvi.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #11731 X-MailScanner-ID: 1W90m9-0001ws-QN X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1391728324.95287@MvbRyAWcU27jweo3rxcwrQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 11731 From unknown Fri Aug 15 12:53:39 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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