GNU bug report logs - #11731
gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks

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Reported by: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>

Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 19:27:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 5.130006

Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>

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From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys)
Subject: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:22:51 -0700
I'm confused.  According to the docs gnus-summary-rescan-group is
supposed to "Exit the newsgroup, ask for new articles, and select the
newsgroup."  However, when I use it, articles I've marked expirable
remain in the group and lose their expirable marks.  I was expecting
those articles to be deleted, as that's what happens when I actually
exit and re-enter the group.  This is on my INBOX, which is presumably
controlled by the following customization:

 '(gnus-parameters
   (quote
    (("^INBOX"
      (expiry-wait . immediate)
      (expiry-target . delete)
      (display .
               [or
                (not reply)
                (not expire)])))))


Ma Gnus v0.6
GNU Emacs 24.0.94.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin11.4.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0 AppKit 1138.47)
 of 2012-05-24 on pluto.luannocracy.com

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com





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bug#11731; Package gnus. (Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:00:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #8 received at 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:56:18 +0200
Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:

> I'm confused.  According to the docs gnus-summary-rescan-group is
> supposed to "Exit the newsgroup, ask for new articles, and select the
> newsgroup."  However, when I use it, articles I've marked expirable
> remain in the group and lose their expirable marks.  I was expecting
> those articles to be deleted, as that's what happens when I actually
> exit and re-enter the group.

That function basically just calls `gnus-summary-exit', so whatever
happens when that command is called should also happen when
`gnus-summary-rescan-group', as far as I can tell from the code.

Do you have any hooks or customisations that may do something odd here?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/




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Message #11 received at 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:26:14 -0400
on Wed Jun 20 2012, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi-AT-gnus.org> wrote:

> Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:
>
>> I'm confused.  According to the docs gnus-summary-rescan-group is
>> supposed to "Exit the newsgroup, ask for new articles, and select the
>> newsgroup."  However, when I use it, articles I've marked expirable
>> remain in the group and lose their expirable marks.  I was expecting
>> those articles to be deleted, as that's what happens when I actually
>> exit and re-enter the group.
>
> That function basically just calls `gnus-summary-exit', so whatever
> happens when that command is called should also happen when
> `gnus-summary-rescan-group', as far as I can tell from the code.
>
> Do you have any hooks or customisations that may do something odd here?

I don't know.  Of course I have lots of hooks and customizations; it's
hard to know which of these might interfere.  Here they are for your
amusement, though:

https://github.com/dabrahams/dwamacs/blob/master/settings/gnus-settings.el

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com




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Message #14 received at 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:42:43 +0200
Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:

> I don't know.  Of course I have lots of hooks and customizations; it's
> hard to know which of these might interfere.  Here they are for your
> amusement, though:
>
> https://github.com/dabrahams/dwamacs/blob/master/settings/gnus-settings.el

I can't look through that.  Could you just edebug through
`gnus-summary-exit' and see what doesn't happen?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no  *  Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen




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bug#11731; Package gnus. (Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:48:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #17 received at 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:45:39 -0400
on Wed Sep 05 2012, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi-AT-gnus.org> wrote:

> Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:
>
>> I don't know.  Of course I have lots of hooks and customizations; it's
>> hard to know which of these might interfere.  Here they are for your
>> amusement, though:
>>
>> https://github.com/dabrahams/dwamacs/blob/master/settings/gnus-settings.el
>
> I can't look through that.  Could you just edebug through
> `gnus-summary-exit' and see what doesn't happen?

This appears to be a transient problem; I'm having a hard time
reproducing it now, but I know I've seen it in the past few weeks.
Might as well close this bug until I can give a more reliable report.

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing                  Software Development        Training
http://www.boostpro.com             Clang/LLVM/EDG Compilers  C++  Boost




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Message #20 received at 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:50:57 -0400
on Mon Sep 17 2012, Dave Abrahams <dave-AT-boostpro.com> wrote:

> on Wed Sep 05 2012, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi-AT-gnus.org> wrote:
>
>> Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:
>>
>>> I don't know.  Of course I have lots of hooks and customizations; it's
>>> hard to know which of these might interfere.  Here they are for your
>>> amusement, though:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/dabrahams/dwamacs/blob/master/settings/gnus-settings.el
>>
>> I can't look through that.  Could you just edebug through
>> `gnus-summary-exit' and see what doesn't happen?
>
> This appears to be a transient problem; I'm having a hard time
> reproducing it now, but I know I've seen it in the past few weeks.
> Might as well close this bug until I can give a more reliable report.

Well, it's happening again.  Messages that I've marked expirable keep
coming back after `M-g' in the summary buffer.  I don't know what's
causing it of course; is there anything I can do to gather useful
information that will help debug it?

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing                  Software Development        Training
http://www.boostpro.com             Clang/LLVM/EDG Compilers  C++  Boost




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Message #23 received at 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 18:16:17 +0100
Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:

>>> Could you just edebug through `gnus-summary-exit' and see what
>>> doesn't happen?
>>
>> This appears to be a transient problem; I'm having a hard time
>> reproducing it now, but I know I've seen it in the past few weeks.
>> Might as well close this bug until I can give a more reliable report.
>
> Well, it's happening again.  Messages that I've marked expirable keep
> coming back after `M-g' in the summary buffer.  I don't know what's
> causing it of course; is there anything I can do to gather useful
> information that will help debug it?

Stepping through `gnus-summary-exit' with edebug is probably the most
helpful thing.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no  *  Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen




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Message #26 received at 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 19:55:07 +0200
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

>> Well, it's happening again.  Messages that I've marked expirable keep
>> coming back after `M-g' in the summary buffer.  I don't know what's
>> causing it of course; is there anything I can do to gather useful
>> information that will help debug it?
>
> Stepping through `gnus-summary-exit' with edebug is probably the most
> helpful thing.

Did you try doing this?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/




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Message #29 received at 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: "11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:59:50 -0700
Sorry, no time

Sent from my illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator

On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote:

> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
> 
>>> Well, it's happening again.  Messages that I've marked expirable keep
>>> coming back after `M-g' in the summary buffer.  I don't know what's
>>> causing it of course; is there anything I can do to gather useful
>>> information that will help debug it?
>> 
>> Stepping through `gnus-summary-exit' with edebug is probably the most
>> helpful thing.
> 
> Did you try doing this?
> 
> -- 
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
>  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/




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Message #32 received at 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11731: gnus-summary-rescan-group loses expirable marks
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:11:07 -0800
Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:

> Sorry, no time

More data was requested a year ago, but none were giving, so I'm closing
this bug report.  Please reopen if further progress is made.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/




bug closed, send any further explanations to 11731 <at> debbugs.gnu.org and Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> Request was from Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Thu, 30 Jan 2014 23:13:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <help-debbugs <at> gnu.org> to internal_control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:24:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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