From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 00/14] Copyediting: etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954759124026 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:34:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:33:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40067 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebWJ-0006FS-HI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:33:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58457) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebQ8-00062O-WC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:26:49 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebNS-0004FR-TF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:24:04 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54529) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebNS-0004FN-N4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:24:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35349) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebNQ-0005r4-Qw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:24:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebNP-0004F2-0c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:24:00 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:50852) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebNO-0004Ej-NT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:23:58 -0400 Received: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so6474wgb.30 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:23:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:date:from:to:message-id; bh=9ERvwLKMc1SjaXIbFs5oK93v+DhQcroUzC8ZjqPurpw=; b=UlBYwZMIS8HnfqrWOoziyBlFAdRHOXi7nepFWIKutwvw36gifSZ4dtbUuw/CFhmbg3 JxvDGCEVS11NsJI7euNDukKpZDLAiVjsEXF6W2C5i9vmEq1UoWPEBv3H8Vsb8XR4hgdW M9GY7uq1LwMvsZgmPSz2ONSxn1+zvnpQsDH6I+CDZBsNuQbxXMh4Bt3laGiluclb+f4F iQZ34H9XWg41sGWKrrRi9w3wSSEqj8b8hckcilknPMCurXbGbuGnk4/1fKJJU34qMOvx YZ2r20W6mgrFHawIa2DzR8kY/k/IEhIwkVX54SMgXxdhDYt+K4DPzF+oLOxmcordfnF4 ltKw== Received: by 10.216.213.226 with SMTP id a76mr9651429wep.142.1339547035145; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. [199.48.147.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id db7sm8555979wib.6.2012.06.12.17.23.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:00:54 -0000 From: Michael Witten Message-ID: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:33:07 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Whilst reading through the TUTORIAL, I made a few minor modifications. The following is a summary of the resulting patch series, the last patch of which adds an entry to etc/ChangeLog: etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Remove text saying `C-x 1' is first 2-char command etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Describe the act of scrolling text more consistently etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Remove redundant comparison of killing and deleting etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Eradicate the future tense etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Minor rewording to streamline and generalize `C-x s' intro etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Use `application' consistently by replacing an occurence of `program' etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Generalize the description of when to use `C-x C-c' etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Remove the word `globally' etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Replace occurences of `--' with more appropriate text etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: c-h-a-n-g-e-d -> "changed" etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Complete instructions by telling the user to move the cursor etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Make consistent the white space around `>>' instructions etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Place `C-x C-f' beside `find-file' for clarity etc/ChangeLog: Note my patch series for etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL etc/ChangeLog | 10 +++++ etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 118 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------------- 2 files changed, 78 insertions(+), 50 deletions(-) -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 01/14] etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Remove text saying `C-x 1' is first 2-char command Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954785524477 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:37:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40104 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebaX-0006Mh-SZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50717) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebQx-00063o-9t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:27:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebOH-0004LY-6t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:24:54 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54532) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebOH-0004LT-1b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:24:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59097) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebOE-0005rn-K3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:24:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebOC-0004KJ-Py for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:24:50 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:36490) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebOC-0004Jp-Ha for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:24:48 -0400 Received: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so6747wgb.30 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:24:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references; bh=O+BGjRvHrn31eOQvj8jSG0pu6grwASDGZBTG1CSNibE=; b=CS5AhX0fbCF6stDj2c7Kolw1ElIvjzrds3IQ4rFp4xLLbuUexSakvwcWL16+HigEHp rfkGEHd6FjX+BTmm7nvfZlFAU8qn4OoxQMT/KPvTGqtyreZcGnkduAdL9AdCZ85XQPlO 04H89NPGQVQsVM4Apnn2ZASJq0rM4l1CruFjenVvSThveZV7gXK8pN3rVP6IBsSKwhLu fiDuncqTWNwAI1zrOKcT1IwKqTm78OhHfJIL6eaGRpWd6XtSNQhEHCf/JHAZ6kS8fI6E iFV7jfCOUJlgeBb7zXdeiG0PrGYLQIayacNjt05XESWcVg4S07ogCHRP6dA9DI12HlYj EB5A== Received: by 10.216.195.12 with SMTP id o12mr10097492wen.194.1339547086470; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. [199.48.147.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ez4sm8565231wid.3.2012.06.12.17.24.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:05:43 -0000 From: Michael Witten Message-ID: <0962f23bf7054ed9b72b08b5f0b6e8d2-mfwitten@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> References: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 There are previous examples and explanations of multi-character commands, so pointing out this quality is not really consistent or even worthwhile. --- etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 2 -- 1 file changed, 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index ccd438a..c68f239 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -281,8 +281,6 @@ other windows. >> Type C-x 1 and see the documentation listing window disappear. -This command is unlike the other commands you have learned in that it -consists of two characters. It starts with the character CONTROL-x. There is a whole series of commands that start with CONTROL-x; many of them have to do with windows, files, buffers, and related things. These commands are two, three or four characters long. -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 02/14] etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Describe the act of scrolling text more consistently Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954785624484 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:37:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40106 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebaZ-0006Ml-H8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50936) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebRv-00065V-UV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:28:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPF-0004pA-IO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:25:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54546) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPF-0004ow-Ck for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:25:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59305) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPD-0005xY-Lz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:25:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPB-0004nq-8F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:25:51 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:55658) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPA-0004nE-VB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:25:49 -0400 Received: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so7126wgb.30 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:25:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references; bh=HKYlzy6gNLza+nOSHq5tEzNd1Nx5+JNpLgcoA1+4Ugw=; b=EqtOUfIH734cqTEKNxZOMp54652gwpm5p7WLCErbyFY29nhwW+gt7IfjBIq+53BwF1 7vd+5HlfGgMYCPQ/WazqbXdFv4bitay31RFUUv5Tym7SsAb/0TNx1KWEtw1PfYGrEYQO Egcf4nhxQIzK3Vt/5UO0hCM03iaRTxiJAQfc0iUrJ9uVh6cff9gZTvyOTwN5cfULUvJG CG5Jy7lYHFEWjBxr7pXKTO5EUxa6LHzEuTOscBMxoUXHgvL/eQCsY5LAX/x+EAqsk6rM CaZT8Sar+cbpE/IlgLlgvMi6v186aiE0x5RxJgsw96Shfz/xBNZLeT9wHUNCOHa68xxD VFow== Received: by 10.216.193.166 with SMTP id k38mr9506822wen.200.1339547140656; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. [199.48.147.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n6sm3298524wie.7.2012.06.12.17.25.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:06:29 -0000 From: Michael Witten Message-ID: <502c1b1e4e6c4a0e8bbd86f1b5c252de-mfwitten@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> References: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 The action of "scrolling the text up and down" is commonly described as "scrolling the screen (or window) down and up". In particular, note the way in which the two descriptions use direction; scrolling may be interpreted as either moving the text with respect to the user's view, or moving the user's view with respect to the text. This commit clarifies this discrepancy in terminology, and introduces language that prefers EMACS's tradition of describing the scrolling of text (rather than of screens/windows). --- etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 28 +++++++++++++++++++--------- 1 file changed, 19 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index c68f239..e873023 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -208,22 +208,31 @@ those you have learned so far) use it as a flag--the presence of a prefix argument, regardless of its value, makes the command do something different. -C-v and M-v are another kind of exception. When given an argument, -they scroll the screen up or down by that many lines, rather than by a -screenful. For example, C-u 8 C-v scrolls the screen by 8 lines. +C-v and M-v are other exceptions. When given an argument, each scrolls +the text up or down, respectively, by that many lines, rather than by +the usual screenful of text. For example, C-u 8 C-v scrolls the text +up by 8 lines. >> Try typing C-u 8 C-v now. -This should have scrolled the screen up by 8 lines. If you would like -to scroll it down again, you can give an argument to M-v. +This should have scrolled the text up by 8 lines. If you would like +to scroll the text down again, you can give an argument to M-v. If you are using a graphical display, such as X or MS-Windows, there should be a tall rectangular area called a scroll bar on one side of the Emacs window. You can scroll the text by clicking the mouse in -the scroll bar. +the scroll bar; one often drags the scroll bar's handle, a rectangular +region that is within the scroll bar and that is used to represent the +portion of the text that is currently visible in the associated window. If your mouse has a wheel button, you can also use this to scroll. +(Note that "scrolling the text up and down" is commonly described as +"scrolling the screen (or window) down and up". In particular, note +the way in which the two descriptions use direction; scrolling may +be interpreted as either moving the text with respect to the user's +view, or moving the user's view with respect to the text.) + * IF EMACS STOPS RESPONDING --------------------------- @@ -873,7 +882,7 @@ Emacs terms.) Both windows display this tutorial. The editing cursor stays in the top window. ->> Type C-M-v to scroll the bottom window. +>> Type C-M-v to scroll the text of the bottom window up. (If you do not have a real META key, type C-v.) >> Type C-x o ("o" for "other") to move the cursor to the bottom window. @@ -891,7 +900,8 @@ display, those cursors are drawn as unblinking hollow boxes. The command C-M-v is very useful when you are editing text in one window and using the other window just for reference. Without leaving -the selected window, you can scroll the other window with C-M-v. +the selected window, you can use C-M-v to scroll the text of the other +window up. C-M-v is an example of a CONTROL-META character. If you have a META (or Alt) key, you can type C-M-v by holding down both CONTROL and META @@ -1042,7 +1052,7 @@ This displays in another window a list of all M-x commands with "file" in their names. You will see character-commands like C-x C-f listed beside the corresponding command names such as find-file. ->> Type C-M-v to scroll the help window. Do this a few times. +>> Type C-M-v to scroll the text of the help window up. Do this a few times. >> Type C-x 1 to delete the help window. -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 03/14] etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Remove redundant comparison of killing and deleting Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954785724490 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:37:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40108 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sebaa-0006Mr-Db for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51033) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebSF-000666-KD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:29:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPZ-0004sh-Ia for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:26:14 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54547) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPZ-0004sW-D3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:26:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59431) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPX-0005y6-NY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:26:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPV-0004s7-TS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:26:11 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:55658) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPV-0004nE-KS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:26:09 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id ds1so7126wgb.30 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:26:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references; bh=0YZrzYZxfKWHJnIa0Ss5fkUtsBBrs9sQFg9Rlj9XFC8=; b=IY35rVBkchKQGVSFOFqMpqySbTgDuEReLeukKCO149EVxvmGksKFqe3ooGm3LIs/ps jbQJnCfTTL1VkVqWCWVitNr2Mrz1FYn7OKGDqCy0wj6F5s/A1bMgwRPnF7Opto5gJBvm 5wV1SyZ9Mun7nuaSPvIc2koDgBvD07CAk+oaXlCgUrtlQA8EfX4mwz9eLMrivMcL2a0a R11S0ePtlc+pZhDsv0L6556gv2GbKcQc3pEZx6mOEC35g8rbZ2qGJ+X1znu2fTxgKptj Bs1VPjHr75I4o4Fk2Dn1MGWu6kqX8MngRW9IIsOU9UVRqEPFjRVPFRryD9o+66Y0IwC7 DC4g== Received: by 10.180.82.195 with SMTP id k3mr33180813wiy.9.1339547168556; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. [199.48.147.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fo7sm8562332wib.9.2012.06.12.17.26.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:06:46 -0000 From: Michael Witten Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> References: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 There's no point in rehashing the distinction; it is enough simply to state that undoing the removal of text works regardless of how that text was removed. --- etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 6 +++--- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index e873023..e426056 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -469,9 +469,9 @@ convenient to type. A numeric argument to C-/, C-_, or C-x u acts as a repeat count. -You can undo deletion of text just as you can undo killing of text. -The distinction between killing something and deleting it affects -whether you can yank it with C-y; it makes no difference for undo. +You can undo the removal of text regardless of whether the text was +yanked or killed; there is no distinction as far as undoing is +concerned. * FILES -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 04/14] etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Eradicate the future tense Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954785724497 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:37:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40110 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sebaa-0006My-Sb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51133) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebSd-000677-4m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:29:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPx-0004x1-3x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:26:38 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54552) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPw-0004wm-Un for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:26:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59525) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPv-0005yp-90 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:26:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPt-0004wG-Cz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:26:34 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:37997) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebPt-0004vi-51 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:26:33 -0400 Received: by wefh52 with SMTP id h52so128523wef.0 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:26:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references; bh=Hi//0q7cDqsviSVdLW/Hy1hv7oNoCXqVDQ6/+HZ5kZw=; b=WsLYmI+EdFmTrAmJ66XB9H6DBKP/wLdWgOuyRnaxP01i5nQkzh5NKMuh0kiB/pQD8A 2tRAh/M6c/yxelsf2fUcmwRetgd/SPBUZU6u7cb9Ej89B3ItHHbYZ8yXYnH+pryAZwCi kxuazpkddRMnOz+nCnna22WscId44qXM6EhN/mJ3KGOEoNarzkoqEe1d744AeiEdL23T l20HjtSI5ScG6zi1vvuRp+T9FQNqaZfsWG6+HX5jl89oiuMUBXZADz/ExoCUd3gEfArI 4TPMwV8T9+4m9dveU7J6ZJA8z9mNWeWO5nJH/efImWD94gVgpBLwoAFJTb7SZSwSLEHV RC/Q== Received: by 10.216.144.201 with SMTP id n51mr159101wej.73.1339547191045; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. [199.48.147.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hv7sm3344042wib.0.2012.06.12.17.26.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:07:05 -0000 From: Michael Witten Message-ID: <73b28061a65c42eaa6ed6977ce94e23d-mfwitten@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> References: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 There is usually very little value in using the future tense when writing about universal and eternal principles. --- etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 10 +++++----- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index e426056..7d027f7 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -532,8 +532,8 @@ not lost. The new name is made by adding "~" to the end of the original file's name. When saving is finished, Emacs displays the name of the file written. -You should save fairly often, so that you will not lose very much -work if the system should crash (see the section "Auto Save" below). +You should save fairly often, so that you do not lose very much +work if the system crashes (see the section "Auto Save" below). >> Type C-x C-s TUTORIAL . This should save this tutorial to a file named TUTORIAL, and show @@ -541,10 +541,10 @@ work if the system should crash (see the section "Auto Save" below). You can find an existing file, to view it or edit it. You can also find a file which does not already exist. This is the way to create a -file with Emacs: find the file, which will start out empty, and then +file with Emacs: find the file, which starts out empty, and then begin inserting the text for the file. When you ask to "save" the -file, Emacs will really create the file with the text that you have -inserted. From then on, you can consider yourself to be editing an +file, Emacs actually creates the file with the text that you have +inserted. From then on, you may consider yourself to be editing an already existing file. -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 05/14] etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Minor rewording to streamline and generalize `C-x s' intro Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954785824504 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:37:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40112 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sebab-0006N5-9D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51196) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebT3-000687-Ka for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:29:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebQM-00050F-3y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:27:04 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54558) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebQL-000503-VS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:27:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59595) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebQK-00061v-Ba for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:27:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebQI-0004zh-E4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:26:59 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com ([209.85.212.177]:50816) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebQI-0004zK-5g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:26:58 -0400 Received: by wibhm14 with SMTP id hm14so8935wib.12 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:26:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references; bh=R4ui6XXFCsZaozcc3SJLOBrNJdgzoF5NhcnMdbo3cfM=; b=SjZVpJkXojAyyaSj/l5aWMwO+AwHx1cQMIS65pqSTBQcIkR94xu7mPPqJi5NNgXc4i RSz4FQKfQnkCwg18GGdR4T+aakLGXXmlXMwZYy1VbtLRpMzCNyAEGwrYWjJX5Ti3cTjL IocyZV/kq/IxLoOp4C4oSbhPy3gLts1YtDf3Vj4lkbEN1O1UR0jZ0j7izODe80wDbP+1 68WA9skG0454OOC9G3KpuFC8dRjHplSN5ZeL2ISU6getdIZLLt0yPqre8gHycvYJMrXS d78ZHExoAELw6K25+4Mmpigy36BEaJxCcHe/HgVK/HSS8UWnzseXe0K4KUok11s9AmAX vLQg== Received: by 10.180.84.6 with SMTP id u6mr33094841wiy.11.1339547212491; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. [199.48.147.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dg2sm3323037wib.4.2012.06.12.17.26.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:07:33 -0000 From: Michael Witten Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> References: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 --- etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index 7d027f7..3f0942c 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -603,7 +603,7 @@ in that file's buffer. The creation or editing of the second file's buffer has no effect on the first file's buffer. This is very useful, but it also means that you need a convenient way to save the first file's buffer. It would be a nuisance to have to switch back to -it with C-x C-f in order to save it with C-x C-s. So we have +a buffer in order to save it with C-x C-s, so we have C-x s Save some buffers -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 06/14] etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Use `application' consistently by replacing an occurence of `program' Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954785924511 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:37:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40114 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sebac-0006NC-Bp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebTX-0006A0-6A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:30:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebQr-0005Bi-6A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:27:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54559) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebQr-0005Be-0h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:27:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59646) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebQp-00062s-Di for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:27:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebQn-00058o-Hr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:27:30 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:65500) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebQn-00058a-97 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:27:29 -0400 Received: by wefh52 with SMTP id h52so129024wef.0 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:27:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references; bh=/EGDVXJ9hi3kny+6uWQf5btQ6YvoMORB4cRr3GgpE3w=; b=iXxMe3cEgKu1CDu6KjN/5UEt2LtPNiBY1GhBxeetWwSQzHFs+uVlLWh7cnEV05o4Fk D7522wWmWbSNRAq5C5PfTvdk5Cpcfu3UtS0ecHIdKbhLHkVc4nXaqys5ErXGgx36m2VL L9A5uy/aMr96c1fMjj7vBHVVgrDKD+1G1en9f1dPGVX4Cx+TqSZp9FEyb62zZXHP1ryj HafUSadikzPj/Qohy9R9fEaA3reZONXd/GC9wMsoWEexY9BXdp719QLsh/Hs8SdoCXmy fcI0CjgzxK3dLO1yWU4uzlMDxu3dbWVWayvJbdJJPJhmLJu3EIbChV/HljGvHgt1CLQi SREA== Received: by 10.180.96.106 with SMTP id dr10mr32884655wib.3.1339547247183; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 --- etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index 3f0942c..e0eaa35 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -638,7 +638,7 @@ If you are using a graphical display, you don't need any special command to move from Emacs to another application. You can do this with the mouse or with window manager commands. However, if you're using a text terminal which can only show one application at a time, -you need to "suspend" Emacs to move to any other program. +you need to "suspend" Emacs to move to any other application. C-z is the command to exit Emacs *temporarily*--so that you can go back to the same Emacs session afterward. When Emacs is running on a -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 07/14] etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Generalize the description of when to use `C-x C-c' Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954785924517 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:37:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40116 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sebac-0006NJ-TT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51367) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebU4-0006Ap-JX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:30:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebRO-0005P5-G0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:28:07 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, GAPPY_SUBJECT, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54560) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebRO-0005P1-AC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:28:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59771) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebRM-00063Z-PB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:28:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebRL-0005Ob-1k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:28:04 -0400 Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:42204) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebRK-0005OG-PE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:28:02 -0400 Received: by wefh52 with SMTP id h52so129325wef.0 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:28:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references; bh=UIkdBfViZVYRuBNFf+tE8jhDwlZlpwHqmSQDLAa0R2w=; b=DuePvtslO+NnAcQZC3ZTRLwcxSeP6XGpBapRp+uU+m6zN8HnFuzdGaV+ECd5RgA1mt Zupwt+rts2U9VmWmdlxkNj+o8InQzy2x5MbEt2CxqFdnNojIKV15y73rE4ce0PcS6Mm2 SDYyOhFyNwiDPv+meAOla3oxLUUO2veyXaLWxMk3EJlzJhT4WdTrhJrkhpFG0ucKEODa lb2lJdkSxtz2mRbT6t2+y5z/V47x/SfDmHYeNquOLk/FQIprtQ90DQ5jZk4H+CKJ59oU r4LI5Qr2J2E9GMNp8dPfCaBh60h3vaSRSZLYUfsP5EqhFNUzbHv2OvUtJws2vV/UhWj9 Asdw== Received: by 10.216.225.23 with SMTP id y23mr9278755wep.67.1339547280575; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 Listing the specific case of "mail handling programs" so prominently was confusing to me at first blush. Also, the original text mixes plurality; an Emacs can only be invoked by ONE such program at a time, a pedantic subtlety that is reflected in the new language. --- etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index e0eaa35..0b3cd77 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -647,8 +647,8 @@ but does not destroy the Emacs job. In the most common shells, you can resume Emacs with the `fg' command or with `%emacs'. The time to use C-x C-c is when you are about to log out. It's also -the right thing to use to exit an Emacs invoked under mail handling -programs and other miscellaneous utilities. +the right thing to use to exit an Emacs invoked for temporary input +by some utility (such as a mail handling program). There are many C-x commands. Here is a list of the ones you have learned: -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 08/14] etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Remove the word `globally' Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954786024524 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:37:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40118 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sebad-0006NP-IH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51449) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebUT-0006Bo-4b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:31:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebRn-0005Si-1l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:28:32 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54564) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebRm-0005Se-S2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:28:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59848) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebRl-00064A-9A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:28:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebRj-0005SI-Jt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:28:28 -0400 Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:34403) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebRj-0005S0-BT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:28:27 -0400 Received: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so8056wgb.30 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:28:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references; bh=SAYul6r6wTjBzLs/wOG+LqJNbV6n639eAdVIKPeqpKo=; b=NkkfvNI9NdkC0Oj+LPtr8Kc/8vAfQeih/0URgeM5aEixAboEf1eQUPehYNxDYwGybb B3kWe291dXH/2SmSZI41FmJfJ1yyJoErkx82HIhT4uuAb+sfSz2WuQ7r+myPZkiaQnHV Ia7rc+ZFfH/rHp/cMPSIpdFisXYAuNBW8dx1DYBcyNJKNX0st/dRGVU+MgSS/6UZZvh9 ZUpsRncIFlnnD0I0cZCfzE4tV8C+LNSZFe4tFBaz3axPaI4XIe1lhMXlSVRP4L2tSF0A r2CCiZNjV6olcffBW0KAA1vzyHeFacSLCmZkIePuae6uD+W4G3uSl6DK6B91hqfvfmbn N4wg== Received: by 10.180.100.2 with SMTP id eu2mr33138878wib.10.1339547305247; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 If anything, "in the buffer" is the more accurate notion to convey; I would have liked to write "in the active buffer", but that extended the line of text a bit too much, requiring changes to more lines (would that there were a widely used diff format more amenable to altering human languages). --- etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index 0b3cd77..a754b47 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -663,8 +663,8 @@ There are many C-x commands. Here is a list of the ones you have learned: Named eXtended commands are commands which are used even less frequently, or commands which are used only in certain modes. An -example is the command replace-string, which globally replaces one -string with another. When you type M-x, Emacs prompts you at the +example is the command replace-string, which replaces one string with +another in the buffer. When you type M-x, Emacs prompts you at the bottom of the screen with M-x and you should type the name of the command; in this case, "replace-string". Just type "repl s" and Emacs will complete the name. ( is the Tab key, usually found -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 09/14] etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Replace occurences of `--' with more appropriate text Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954786124531 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:37:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40120 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sebae-0006NW-Ld for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51512) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebV0-0006Cc-5a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:31:51 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebSJ-0005Wc-GR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:29:05 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54565) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebSJ-0005WW-9a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:29:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59905) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebSH-00064R-3L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:29:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebSE-0005Vt-QG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:29:00 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com ([209.85.212.177]:51040) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebSE-0005VY-EZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:28:58 -0400 Received: by wibhm14 with SMTP id hm14so9693wib.12 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:28:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references; bh=38p7POuTLUw/85eYeiztLKjuGqxYieHU7T3daVK/ufc=; b=fi80ykOoFOtwAXOtb00u1BuIDMnr4xdXj9UGuypX+W/7RO8K6rmZNVP6vKSd+uDYtE CbIiMsg1kP8vFt8xXtAsLgXdJyH8wnHpIFIt3hWaMcSE+shjz9H51X0QSYUvhvNJxreD 8Y14dscm799Aa8560llksWZvMqOqGGgvXCz5bJeBCUCWRF30aFT04mMpsLctoYCiwHhA 6eRLK+h9MBE/TjofF7qSTTWIKknt9EcjVui3O+mgmH9vlOcTLlDg2QSCNnZfMp7khcz0 xVO7jBeH3M0ij9jRfBI4TQvf6AGH4X077BWSB7FLsPf6nV/DXwYm1mGQpHdZ7RwLpa5M qgNw== Received: by 10.216.226.233 with SMTP id b83mr851289weq.204.1339547333665; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 Under TeX and Texinfo, `---' is actually what is meant to be an em dash, so that would be a better choice than `--', and is thus used to replace `--' a few times. However, other occurrences of `--' have been replaced entirely with other punctuation (such as `:' or `;' or `,') or verbiage in order to make the intention clearer. --- etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 32 ++++++++++++++++---------------- 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index a754b47..ba89417 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -204,7 +204,7 @@ For instance, C-u 8 C-f moves forward eight characters. Most commands use the numeric argument as a repeat count, but some commands use it in some other way. Several commands (but none of -those you have learned so far) use it as a flag--the presence of a +those you have learned so far) use it as a flag---the presence of a prefix argument, regardless of its value, makes the command do something different. @@ -311,7 +311,7 @@ the last character typed. There may also be another key on your keyboard labeled , but that's not the one we refer to as . ->> Do this now--type a few characters, then delete them by +>> Do this now; type a few characters, then delete them by typing a few times. Don't worry about this file being changed; you will not alter the master tutorial. This is your personal copy of it. @@ -344,7 +344,7 @@ Remember that most Emacs commands can be given a repeat count; this includes text characters. Repeating a text character inserts it several times. ->> Try that now -- type C-u 8 * to insert ********. +>> Try that now; type C-u 8 * to insert ********. You've now learned the most basic way of typing something in Emacs and correcting errors. You can delete by words or lines @@ -381,7 +381,7 @@ the text between the two positions. The difference between "killing" and "deleting" is that "killed" text can be reinserted (at any position), whereas "deleted" things cannot -be reinserted in this way (you can, however, undo a deletion--see below). +be reinserted in this way (you can, however, undo a deletion---see below). Reinsertion of killed text is called "yanking". Generally, the commands that can remove a lot of text kill the text (they are set up so that you can yank the text), while the commands that remove just one @@ -630,8 +630,8 @@ These are commands that are generally useful but are used less than the commands you have already learned about. You have already seen a few of them: the file commands C-x C-f to Find and C-x C-s to Save, for example. Another example is the command to end the Emacs -session--this is the command C-x C-c. (Do not worry about losing -changes you have made; C-x C-c offers to save each changed file before +session: C-x C-c. (Do not worry about losing changes you have +made; C-x C-c offers to save each changed file before it kills Emacs.) If you are using a graphical display, you don't need any special @@ -640,7 +640,7 @@ with the mouse or with window manager commands. However, if you're using a text terminal which can only show one application at a time, you need to "suspend" Emacs to move to any other application. -C-z is the command to exit Emacs *temporarily*--so that you can go +C-z is the command to exit Emacs *temporarily*, so that you can go back to the same Emacs session afterward. When Emacs is running on a text terminal, C-z "suspends" Emacs; that is, it returns to the shell but does not destroy the Emacs job. In the most common shells, you @@ -671,7 +671,7 @@ Emacs will complete the name. ( is the Tab key, usually found above the CapsLock or Shift key near the left edge of the keyboard.) Submit the command name with . -The replace-string command requires two arguments--the string to be +The replace-string command requires two arguments: the string to be replaced, and the string to replace it with. You must end each argument with . @@ -720,7 +720,7 @@ The mode line says something like this: This line gives useful information about the status of Emacs and the text you are editing. -You already know what the filename means--it is the file you have +You already know what the filename means: it is the file you have found. NN% indicates your current position in the buffer text; it means that NN percent of the buffer is above the top of the screen. If the top of the buffer is on the screen, it will say "Top" instead @@ -857,8 +857,8 @@ This erases the "u" from the search string, and the cursor moves back to the first occurrence of "c". If you are in the middle of a search and type a control or meta -character (with a few exceptions--characters that are special in a -search, such as C-s and C-r), the search is terminated. +character, the search is terminated---with a few exceptions; characters +such as C-s and C-r are special during a search. C-s starts a search that looks for any occurrence of the search string AFTER the current cursor position. If you want to search for @@ -872,7 +872,7 @@ the search is reversed. One of the nice features of Emacs is that you can display more than one window on the screen at the same time. (Note that Emacs uses the -term "frames"--described in the next section--for what some other +term "frames"---described in the next section---for what some other applications call "windows". The Emacs manual contains a Glossary of Emacs terms.) @@ -917,8 +917,8 @@ in its own right, not a modifier key. >> Type C-x 1 (in the top window) to get rid of the bottom window. (If you had typed C-x 1 in the bottom window, that would get rid -of the top one. Think of this command as "Keep just one -window--the window I am already in.") +of the top one. Think of this command as "Keep just one window, +namely the window I am already in.") You do not have to display the same buffer in both windows. If you use C-x C-f to find a file in one window, the other window does not @@ -1011,7 +1011,7 @@ The message should be something like this: This tells you the "name of the function". Since function names are chosen to indicate what the command does, they can serve as -very brief documentation--sufficient to remind you of commands you +very brief documentation sufficient to remind you of commands you have already learned. Multi-character commands such as C-x C-s and (if you have no META or @@ -1095,7 +1095,7 @@ The manual also describes many other Emacs features. To exit Emacs use C-x C-c. This tutorial is meant to be understandable to all new users, so if -you found something unclear, don't sit and blame yourself - complain! +you found something unclear, don't sit and blame yourself---complain! * COPYING -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 10/14] etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: c-h-a-n-g-e-d -> "changed" Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954786124537 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:05 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:37:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40122 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sebaf-0006Nd-HP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51585) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebVL-0006DW-66 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:32:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebSf-0005ZS-2W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:29:26 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, GAPPY_SUBJECT, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54566) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebSe-0005ZO-Sp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:29:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59990) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebSd-00064j-60 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:29:24 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebSb-0005Z5-DN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:29:22 -0400 Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:37931) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebSb-0005Yv-6k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:29:21 -0400 Received: by vbkv13 with SMTP id v13so107830vbk.0 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:29:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references; bh=gpionmzMqjbLi4cnCtIuUmGYBzej8HpqLma1doGyR9w=; b=jtHsVYnVikszL2fo+voXuhzTZ+Gj9CiBqrSUQnlwt5zPRTcMgoB/x7Plq+DyvzwwGB zotFC0bOhf/7cIC8meKcR2BPmEUpKL/CwqUT7KY3all4N2olNwp8uiNzY3H1IQTAbEaS 2QsSvyN3ailuUlpIOMcfv8F/X7Ovjcx8KgYXedXzYxnpbhw/cE50/7vooDfTjaF2EreP v8sMKfwIhiChibSoSMju4OERib3tj5i8FTGdnnauFc0VFbQUhOuWTz0IDF1dzB9rZuar EuLoIXZ371/uQzGQA2Mfv6AKPExVbWGP4bV6hALRCHT+QO3NdgFkkrXEmw/HXgBaIQVK FreA== Received: by 10.221.0.197 with SMTP id nn5mr15919581vcb.0.1339547359360; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 As the replacement string is already listed in double quotes ("altered"), I don't see the value in using a different format for emphasizing the text "changed"; both now use double quotes. --- etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index ba89417..84bf892 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -679,7 +679,7 @@ argument with . Then type M-x repl schangedaltered. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 The original text is unclear, because it doesn't tell the user that it is necessary to place the cursor on a particular line. --- etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 3 ++- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index 84bf892..ca451b6 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -769,7 +769,8 @@ differently. To view documentation on your current major mode, type C-h m. ->> Type C-l C-l to bring this line to the top of screen. +>> Move the cursor to the line that follows this line. +>> Type C-l C-l to bring this line to the top of the screen. >> Type C-h m, to see how Text mode differs from Fundamental mode. >> Type C-x 1 to remove the documentation from the screen. -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 12/14] etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Make consistent the white space around `>>' instructions Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:06 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954786324550 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:06 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:37:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40126 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sebag-0006Nq-Bv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47700) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebWd-0006Fw-TB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:33:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebTw-00069Q-Qt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:30:46 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54570) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebTw-00069G-GK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:30:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43322) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebTu-0006Ag-9r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:30:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebTq-00066K-RW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:30:41 -0400 Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]:58922) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebTq-0005rU-FX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:30:38 -0400 Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id fl10so10004vcb.0 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:30:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references; bh=PzidQdbsKj23N4VBKrKuyu1IAwd9OQcpJqE4GsEYu00=; b=rQUcV6X92YsbdRadbB3FIVAoydkGwrYL9+JRAFGFemfFiDPito781J2o2Npsx130lI qb8liPgfval/tvg7erLWp+EnL94uvXAwYDlDnW431I65E9cOZUq4RIZhkvJsce4rRGkj ffilVo5D4sTwgZNzp/0BAure2xqPzSfI5w7eqRbdOoWDW2NS+5OFhVx3yPUCVnGJNDbN G/IBfnB51zGR5P2vXy1H9OGwCboP9fFLTQFBlisH8LpqZ0mmfoKlMHZmFhTQ0xLAsLAw 7RUmAwgZHLlrkN9wCg8wZxg6D+KtOMlcv0drZw7CCwUhKFeRKP0SPzu96ov4xc0s0T4O 9oKg== Received: by 10.52.98.226 with SMTP id el2mr13304670vdb.119.1339547437558; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 --- etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 21 +++++++++++++++------ 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index ca451b6..8f4d8fd 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -16,10 +16,10 @@ The characters ">>" at the left margin indicate directions for you to try using a command. For instance: <> [Middle of page left blank for didactic purposes. Text continues below] ->> Now type C-v (View next screen) to move to the next screen. - (go ahead, do it by holding down the CONTROL key while typing v). - From now on, you should do this again whenever you finish - reading the screen. +>> Now type C-v (View next screen) to move to the next screen. + (go ahead, do it by holding down the CONTROL key while typing v). + From now on, you should do this again whenever you finish + reading the screen. Note that there is an overlap of two lines when you move from screen to screen; this provides some continuity so you can continue reading @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ to place in the text. You already know how to move forward one screen, with C-v. To move backwards one screen, type M-v (hold down the META key and type v, or type v if you do not have a META, EDIT, or ALT key). ->> Try typing M-v and then C-v, a few times. +>> Try typing M-v and then C-v, a few times. * SUMMARY @@ -284,6 +284,7 @@ which contains the cursor, to occupy the full screen. It deletes all other windows. >> Move the cursor to this line and type C-u 0 C-l. + >> Type C-h k C-f. See how this window shrinks, while a new one appears to display documentation on the C-f command. @@ -344,7 +345,7 @@ Remember that most Emacs commands can be given a repeat count; this includes text characters. Repeating a text character inserts it several times. ->> Try that now; type C-u 8 * to insert ********. +>> Try that now; type C-u 8 * to insert ********. You've now learned the most basic way of typing something in Emacs and correcting errors. You can delete by words or lines @@ -372,10 +373,13 @@ position where you typed C-. Finally, type C-w. This kills all the text between the two positions. >> Move the cursor to the Y at the start of the previous paragraph. + >> Type C-. Emacs should display a message "Mark set" at the bottom of the screen. + >> Move the cursor to the n in "end", on the second line of the paragraph. + >> Type C-w. This will kill the text starting from the Y, and ending just before the n. @@ -391,6 +395,7 @@ case, with no argument. When given an argument, they kill instead. >> Move the cursor to the beginning of a line which is not empty. Then type C-k to kill the text on that line. + >> Type C-k a second time. You'll see that it kills the Newline which follows that line. @@ -836,8 +841,11 @@ you want to search for. terminates a search. type the word 'cursor', pausing after you type each character to notice what happens to the cursor. Now you have searched for "cursor", once. + >> Type C-s again, to search for the next occurrence of "cursor". + >> Now type four times and see how the cursor moves. + >> Type to terminate the search. Did you see what happened? Emacs, in an incremental search, tries to @@ -887,6 +895,7 @@ Emacs terms.) (If you do not have a real META key, type C-v.) >> Type C-x o ("o" for "other") to move the cursor to the bottom window. + >> Use C-v and M-v in the bottom window to scroll it. Keep reading these directions in the top window. -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 13/14] etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL: Place `C-x C-f' beside `find-file' for clarity Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:06 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954786324557 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:06 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:37:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40128 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sebag-0006Nw-Ug for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47784) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebX4-0006Gg-LX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:33:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebUO-0006FE-DP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:31:13 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, GAPPY_SUBJECT, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54571) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebUO-0006F2-7y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:31:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43414) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebUM-0006BC-Id for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:31:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebUK-0006EF-Mp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:31:09 -0400 Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:50244) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebUK-0006Dw-GM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:31:08 -0400 Received: by vbkv13 with SMTP id v13so108579vbk.0 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:31:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references; bh=eIUXxVt+TRn1ClfeFHml50A5oAx4tyXgFrPGmFjmfiA=; b=xH+/B29bJpjAZlDBxz+obQmzn5gGlaOtVPWtkegWWO/ZaakquqlGGqq+xBDHz+taaF dvuEdMndcfW/UyL/7LHybRn4pVoVruNew9lLbapgrzkJTJ2Rh28K59CWPypVBuKLFhmU gfNxAJz7gY3VgoUZvXzXoPEtH0zXNxupLXPZ0aMt4OjS2N1oG/cCxPkAFSBCEKTwce3L HKtpKvRCMOwa8rMqkpvDWjDFFyvmYaTuT4JIlFTWBmuxYwZEYJdUxgwVnKBv6HEs/oul uJC+j9Yv9XDxkVlFetWuan6OKXMBbBGIBcVwQ3OljpyyeKt2FX74XQrOwFiW2SQS7xM9 FSgw== Received: by 10.220.106.135 with SMTP id x7mr15891608vco.28.1339547466810; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 --- etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index 8f4d8fd..11f2e29 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -1059,8 +1059,8 @@ You need to type in the name of the variable when Emacs prompts for it. >> Type C-h a file . This displays in another window a list of all M-x commands with "file" -in their names. You will see character-commands like C-x C-f listed -beside the corresponding command names such as find-file. +in their names. You will see character-commands listed beside corresponding +command names (such as C-x C-f beside find-file). >> Type C-M-v to scroll the text of the help window up. Do this a few times. -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 14/14] etc/ChangeLog: Note my patch series for etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL Resent-From: Michael Witten Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133954786324562 (code B ref -1); Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:38:07 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2012 00:37:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40130 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sebah-0006O3-CS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47907) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SebXP-0006Hv-1Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:34:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebUj-0006Li-0Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:31:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:54712) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebUi-0006Ld-Qw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:31:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43551) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebUh-0006GN-45 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:31:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebUf-0006L4-4P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:31:30 -0400 Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]:58950) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SebUe-0006Ka-UH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:31:29 -0400 Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so10592vcb.0 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:31:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:from:date:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references; bh=bwPBD1JilBv2s5pdO0SL0v0QWOV2vOK9eMeaNml7fRQ=; b=BZDLnox2EqcNrDuAdI1cFrfWBhmpvzrSwYA6l+4SZi5/EiT9hQ20zDv1NaZVsrFkD/ k7RgObWh8X21yeXPfVJnm0gErQmz4F2VRfIJmrZo1DPiwGYme2ii1FCj331JkhhIohsG uMhepFQEpNpBVaRAQ8EAwrOXfpAJYD/030RfAM/XPTpvoY9tAClPIB7bkYqvRvaH+y+3 gxHvQBjgKOwX39Y3oDqW92SA6WUGHLi4Ik3TmB1sXtfqatNjDy80xqVuc8+ERkKnQbsD QK9Y+1MxpcYUjytqMnfkOrJ16S6Y6MbI2MNeyET8k5jE869yV4PA89xes/u+iYQoCLp4 DCOA== Received: by 10.52.93.75 with SMTP id cs11mr12901343vdb.52.1339547487138; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gmail.com (tor-exit-router35-readme.formlessnetworking.net. [199.48.147.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j2sm26465509vde.16.2012.06.12.17.31.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 17:31:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Witten Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:19:05 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> References: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:37:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:47:39 +0000 --- etc/ChangeLog | 10 ++++++++++ 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+) diff --git a/etc/ChangeLog b/etc/ChangeLog index 0c43d4c..35364b2 100644 --- a/etc/ChangeLog +++ b/etc/ChangeLog @@ -1,3 +1,13 @@ +2012-06-12 Michael Witten + + * tutorials/TUTORIAL: Some simple copyediting to reduce + redundancy and improve the consistency of terminology, + whitespace, punctuation, and grammar. In particular, + the topic of scrolling was expounded upon in minor + ways for preciseness. For the most part, the nature + of the content remains unchanged for the entire + document. + 2012-06-04 Paul Eggert * PROBLEMS (68000 C compiler problems): Remove obsolete section. -- 1.7.10.2.484.gcd07cc5 From unknown Tue Sep 09 00:07:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11689: [PATCH 00/14] Copyediting: etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 10:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11689 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Michael Witten Cc: 11689@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11689-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11689.134165794026568 (code B ref 11689); Sat, 07 Jul 2012 10:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 11689) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2012 10:45:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54017 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SnSWB-0006uT-HE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 06:45:39 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:47401) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SnSW8-0006uL-94 for 11689@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 06:45:37 -0400 Received: from [155.69.186.151] (port=33374 helo=ulysses) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnSRC-0000GY-UE; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 06:40:31 -0400 From: Chong Yidong References: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 18:40:25 +0800 In-Reply-To: <1c1914fbe9e641219e6fff6d7fe92428-mfwitten@gmail.com> (Michael Witten's message of "Wed, 13 Jun 2012 00:00:54 -0000") Message-ID: <877gufetwm.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) > Whilst reading through the TUTORIAL, I made a few minor modifications. > The following is a summary of the resulting patch series Thanks. I've committed these changes, with some exceptions: > +the scroll bar; one often drags the scroll bar's handle, a rectangular > +region that is within the scroll bar and that is used to represent the > +portion of the text that is currently visible in the associated window. I don't see the point of teaching people how to use scroll bars in the Emacs tutorial, and anyway this is wrong for non-toolkit X builds. > +(Note that "scrolling the text up and down" is commonly described as > +"scrolling the screen (or window) down and up". In particular, note > +the way in which the two descriptions use direction; scrolling may > +be interpreted as either moving the text with respect to the user's > +view, or moving the user's view with respect to the text.) I'd rather not get into this in the tutorial, where the scroll-up/scroll-down command names are not mentioned. > -You can undo deletion of text just as you can undo killing of text. > -The distinction between killing something and deleting it affects > -whether you can yank it with C-y; it makes no difference for undo. > +You can undo the removal of text regardless of whether the text was > +yanked or killed; there is no distinction as far as undoing is > +concerned. This change is gratuitous, since it's more or less the same length. > -You should save fairly often, so that you will not lose very much > -work if the system should crash (see the section "Auto Save" below). > +You should save fairly often, so that you do not lose very much > +work if the system crashes (see the section "Auto Save" below). I simply removed this, since the Emacs tutorial is not the place to dispense this kind of general advice. > Under TeX and Texinfo, `---' is actually what is meant to be an > em dash, so that would be a better choice than `--', and is thus > used to replace `--' a few times. This is gratuitous--since this is a text file, not TeX or Texinfo, the meaning should be fairly obvious. Thanks for the copyedits. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 07 06:45:52 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2012 10:45:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54020 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SnSWO-0006uq-21 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 06:45:52 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:47409) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SnSWM-0006uk-Bh for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 06:45:50 -0400 Received: from [155.69.186.151] (port=33375 helo=ulysses) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SnSRS-0000HK-AI for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2012 06:40:46 -0400 From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 11689 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 18:40:42 +0800 Message-ID: <87bojryhud.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) close 11689 thanks