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23.3; meta key stops working if X modifier map becomes (temporarily) empty

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From: Hans Meine <hans.meine <at> mevis.fraunhofer.de>
To: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 23.3;
	meta key stops working if X modifier map becomes (temporarily) empty
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 18:18:14 +0200

Hi everybody,

I am running (K)Ubuntu 12.04, and I am suffering from a bug in VMWare Player 
that clears the X modifier map whenever it grabs the keyboard:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/195982
The workaround is to call 'setxkbmap' without any arguments to restore the 
current xkb map, effectively repopulating the modifier map.

The (new) problem with Emacs is that it loses its meaning of the meta key 
definition (this is meant to be a very superficial description from a user's 
perspective; I could not find out what exactly goes wrong), i.e. all key 
bindings including the meta key stop working.  For instance, I need to use 
"ESC x" instead of M-x.

I am using the Alt key for Meta, here's the output of 'xmodmap -pm':

xmodmap:  up to 4 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):

shift       Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
lock        Shift_L (0x32)
control     Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x69)
mod1        Alt_L (0x40),  Meta_L (0xcd)
mod2      
mod3        ISO_Level5_Shift (0x5e)
mod4        Super_L (0x85),  Super_R (0x86),  Super_L (0xce),  Hyper_L (0xcf)
mod5        ISO_Level3_Shift (0x33),  ISO_Level3_Shift (0x5c),  Mode_switch 
(0xcb)

This is the temporary state after I used VMWare, before restoring the working 
state using 'setxkbmap':

xmodmap:  up to 0 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):

shift     
lock      
control   
mod1      
mod2      
mod3      
mod4      
mod5      

(It /may/ not be irrelevant that I am using the German Neo layout.)

If I start a new Emacs, that one is taking meta all right, so I tried having 
both side-by-side, one Emacs that lost control over meta, and one fresh Emacs 
that has not yet seen an empty modifier map, and had a look at some lisp 
varibles, e.g. 'x-{meta,alt,...}-keysym' (which are all nil) and x-keysym-
table, but could not find any difference.

So my current assumption is that there is some code in Emacs that reacts to 
the modifier change, changes some internal state, and does not react to the 
restored modifier map in a way that the old internal state is restored.  I 
hope that this can be fixed, and I think the latter behavior (i.e. that the 
meta key auto-detection internal state depends only on the /current/ external 
state, and is independent of any intermediate states) would be desirable in 
general.

The following is unmodified output of M-x report-emacs-bug:

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Message #8 received at 11682 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Hans Meine <hans.meine <at> mevis.fraunhofer.de>
To: <11682 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Problem remains
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 10:00:38 +0100

Two additional pieces of information:

1) With "(new) problem with Emacs" above, I wanted to say that the problem 
appeared in recent versions of Emacs, but was not present e.g. 2 years ago.  
Unfortunately, I cannot (yet) more precisely say when the bug appeared.

2) I have added debug output to x_find_modifier_meanings and found that it 
gets called at program start, and when I enter VMWare Player, but not when I 
restore the modifier map by calling "setxkbmap" without arguments.  I would 
expect that ensuring that x_find_modifier_meanings gets called again here 
would fix the bug.

Message #11 received at 11682 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Hans Meine <hans.meine <at> mevis.fraunhofer.de>
To: <11682 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Correction about previous Emacs versions
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 15:38:49 +0100

I have now tried to git-bisect the change, but I could not find a previous 
version of Emacs that worked.  So the change in behavior I observed must have 
to do something with either changes in VMWare, X11, or any other component of 
the (K)Ubuntu Linux distribution I am using (and I have upgraded in the 
meantime).

At least I have tried emacs-24.0.96, EMACS_23_4 („23.4.2“), and EMACS_23_2 
(„23.2.1“), and all suffered from the same problem.  (The further back I went, 
the harder it was to build, so I stopped testing older versions.)

Message #14 received at 11682 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Simon Tatham <anakin <at> pobox.com>
To: 11682 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: I believe this is an X server bug
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:12:48 +0100

Hi,

I found this bug report a few months ago when I was looking to see if
anyone had had the same problem as me. I too found that if VMware
Player had input focus when emacs started up, then emacs would never
recognise the Alt key.

Debugging with xtruss suggested that the reason for this was that
emacs queried the modifier map at startup, found it empty, and
thereafter listened for MappingNotify in order to know when to reload
the mod map but for some reason it never received any MappingNotify
events. (But it did receive the similar XkbMapNotify when vmware lost
or gained focus.)

That was on Ubuntu 10.04. The machine where I was seeing the problem
has recently been upgraded to 12.04, and now the problem has stopped
happening - on the same version of emacs. Debugging with xtruss shows
that now emacs _is_ receiving MappingNotify, suggesting that the X
server has changed its behaviour.

I suspect, in fact, that the following X.Org commit is the fix:

  http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?id=3231962db826f5efd431596a309c96e907a191d1

which appeared in xorg-server 1.11, which would indeed be consistent
with me having this problem in Ubuntu 10.04 but not 12.04 (which use
xorg-server versions 1.7.6 and 1.11.4 respectively).

So if anyone else still has this problem, it might be worth letting
them know to check the version of their X server.

Hope this is helpful!

Cheers,
Simon
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Message #17 received at 11682 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: Simon Tatham <anakin <at> pobox.com>
Cc: Hans Meine <hans.meine <at> mevis.fraunhofer.de>, 11682 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: I believe this is an X server bug
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2019 19:29:09 +0100

Simon Tatham <anakin <at> pobox.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I found this bug report a few months ago when I was looking to see if
> anyone had had the same problem as me. I too found that if VMware
> Player had input focus when emacs started up, then emacs would never
> recognise the Alt key.
>
> Debugging with xtruss suggested that the reason for this was that
> emacs queried the modifier map at startup, found it empty, and
> thereafter listened for MappingNotify in order to know when to reload
> the mod map but for some reason it never received any MappingNotify
> events. (But it did receive the similar XkbMapNotify when vmware lost
> or gained focus.)
>
> That was on Ubuntu 10.04. The machine where I was seeing the problem
> has recently been upgraded to 12.04, and now the problem has stopped
> happening - on the same version of emacs. Debugging with xtruss shows
> that now emacs _is_ receiving MappingNotify, suggesting that the X
> server has changed its behaviour.
>
> I suspect, in fact, that the following X.Org commit is the fix:
>
>   http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?id=3231962db826f5efd431596a309c96e907a191d1
>
> which appeared in xorg-server 1.11, which would indeed be consistent
> with me having this problem in Ubuntu 10.04 but not 12.04 (which use
> xorg-server versions 1.7.6 and 1.11.4 respectively).
>
> So if anyone else still has this problem, it might be worth letting
> them know to check the version of their X server.
>
> Hope this is helpful!

Thanks, that is helpful.  It seems like this is not a bug in Emacs then?
Hans, can you confirm if using a newer version of xorg-server fixes the
problem?

If I don't hear back from you within a couple of weeks, Ill just assume
that this has been fixed and close this bug.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

Message #22 received at 11682 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Meine, Hans" <hans.meine <at> mevis.fraunhofer.de>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: "11682 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <11682 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: I believe this is an X server bug
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 14:23:53 +0000

Hi Stefan,

thanks for following up. I must admit that after this long time, my setup has changed too much to try to reproduce the problem.

I agree that it looks like this issue can be closed.

Have a nice day
  Hans

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> Am 01.11.2019 um 19:29 schrieb Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>:
> 
> Simon Tatham <anakin <at> pobox.com> writes:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I found this bug report a few months ago when I was looking to see if
>> anyone had had the same problem as me. I too found that if VMware
>> Player had input focus when emacs started up, then emacs would never
>> recognise the Alt key.
>> 
>> Debugging with xtruss suggested that the reason for this was that
>> emacs queried the modifier map at startup, found it empty, and
>> thereafter listened for MappingNotify in order to know when to reload
>> the mod map but for some reason it never received any MappingNotify
>> events. (But it did receive the similar XkbMapNotify when vmware lost
>> or gained focus.)
>> 
>> That was on Ubuntu 10.04. The machine where I was seeing the problem
>> has recently been upgraded to 12.04, and now the problem has stopped
>> happening - on the same version of emacs. Debugging with xtruss shows
>> that now emacs _is_ receiving MappingNotify, suggesting that the X
>> server has changed its behaviour.
>> 
>> I suspect, in fact, that the following X.Org commit is the fix:
>> 
>>  http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?id=3231962db826f5efd431596a309c96e907a191d1
>> 
>> which appeared in xorg-server 1.11, which would indeed be consistent
>> with me having this problem in Ubuntu 10.04 but not 12.04 (which use
>> xorg-server versions 1.7.6 and 1.11.4 respectively).
>> 
>> So if anyone else still has this problem, it might be worth letting
>> them know to check the version of their X server.
>> 
>> Hope this is helpful!
> 
> Thanks, that is helpful.  It seems like this is not a bug in Emacs then?
> Hans, can you confirm if using a newer version of xorg-server fixes the
> problem?
> 
> If I don't hear back from you within a couple of weeks, Ill just assume
> that this has been fixed and close this bug.
> 
> Best regards,
> Stefan Kangas

Message #27 received at 11682-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: "Meine\, Hans" <hans.meine <at> mevis.fraunhofer.de>
Cc: 11682-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11682: I believe this is an X server bug
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 16:25:10 +0100

"Meine, Hans" <hans.meine <at> mevis.fraunhofer.de> writes:

> thanks for following up. I must admit that after this long time, my
> setup has changed too much to try to reproduce the problem.
>
> I agree that it looks like this issue can be closed.

Thank you for reporting back.  Closing the bug now.

Best regards,
Stefan Kangas

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