From unknown Wed Jun 25 03:57:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11664: 24.1; Cannot use OpenSSL when GnuTLS is installed Resent-From: nyc4bos@aol.com Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 11664 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 11664@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133929158020099 (code B ref -1); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:27:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2012 01:26:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36332 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWv5-0005E7-Ie for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:26:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35899) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWv0-0005Dy-O9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:26:17 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWsa-00044u-78 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:23:46 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, RCVD_IN_XBL, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:48567) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWsa-00044W-1V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:23:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37129) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWsY-0007gl-1h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:23:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWsW-00043b-1G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:23:41 -0400 Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.207.163]:60898) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SdWsV-00043T-N9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:23:39 -0400 Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q5A1NY44031359 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:23:34 -0400 Received: from STATION03 (173-13-86-254-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.13.86.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id EA286E0000C9 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:23:33 -0400 (EDT) From: nyc4bos@aol.com Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:23:24 -0400 Message-ID: <84ipf0j6yb.fsf@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1339291414; bh=4b+eQzU6PXB9NWTDpvIcej3Dx5QWD3CWxmhCUeVisHA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Uk3G3+UGjBFHw5VVV1tDhbvUtS+UcduHMhoCdg83lawtXscKCT+YyKDGVokqNdJrM BH/Aq8ZGULPYFhg+bhl7+I6k+hsctPygAxOt0cARuHgYMSDA+UxaU0X52dqxCpIf66 8BJASL7QusDS2+wT7mULFZCjzRRQm8x9p92XMWLA= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:475605312:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29434fd3f7157e56 X-AOL-IP: 173.13.86.254 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) It appears that one cannot use OpenSSL when GnuTLS is installed. Gnus, for instance, will use GnuTLS opportunistically. Glenn gave the following workaround: (defalias 'gnutls-available-p 'ignore) One used to be able to specify OpenSSL or even gnutls-cli, i.e. I believe that this is a regression. Thanks. In GNU Emacs 24.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-06-01 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp949 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: jabber-activity-mode: t show-paren-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: n q y Recent messages: Warning: Opening nnimap server on dada...failed: ; Unable to open server nnimap+dada due to: Unknown service: 993 Are you sure you want to quit reading news? 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Cannot use OpenSSL when GnuTLS is installed Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11664 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: nyc4bos@aol.com Cc: 11664@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11664-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11664.133929250321414 (code B ref 11664); Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:42:01 +0000 Received: (at 11664) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2012 01:41:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36341 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SdX9z-0005ZL-9s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:41:43 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:51903) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SdX9x-0005ZE-Gu for 11664@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:41:42 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SdX7X-0004xE-W6; Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:39:12 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <84ipf0j6yb.fsf@aol.com> X-Spook: BRLO FBI FIPS140 Mafia SRI Ruby Ridge White House enemy X-Ran: Z!2,DVVk\)nZ!@O~\Lcu%";wl7aAapg:p4>]V}Lixsq>ud!$dGAEci)]1CE\[/P X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:39:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <84ipf0j6yb.fsf@aol.com> (nyc4bos@aol.com's message of "Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:23:24 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) nyc4bos@aol.com wrote: > It appears that one cannot use OpenSSL when GnuTLS is installed. > > Gnus, for instance, will use GnuTLS opportunistically. Can you expain why you want to do this; ie force calling an external program rather than use built-in support? From unknown Wed Jun 25 03:57:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11664: 24.1; Cannot use OpenSSL when GnuTLS is installed Resent-From: nyc4bos@aol.com Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 03:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11664 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: 11664@debbugs.gnu.org, Glenn Morris Received: via spool by 11664-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11664.134007512325723 (code B ref 11664); Tue, 19 Jun 2012 03:06:01 +0000 Received: (at 11664) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2012 03:05:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47549 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sgoks-0006gq-U8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:05:23 -0400 Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.147]:34602) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sgokp-0006gh-NH for 11664@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:05:20 -0400 Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q5J31oPP020049; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:01:50 -0400 Received: from STATION04 (173-13-86-254-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.13.86.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 33884E0000C2; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:01:50 -0400 (EDT) From: nyc4bos@aol.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs References: <84ipf0j6yb.fsf@aol.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:01:32 -0400 Message-ID: <84ehpcdmyb.fsf@aol.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NKEXTet9TnbxrR0Zn25EmCDlzWk= In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:39:11 -0400") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Posted-To: gmane.emacs.bugs x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1340074910; bh=BTicZr3TutaoYXAnIXCZZnDEzDjnJt2huLpcPrMa3QU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OxDKsRi0CMmjn/Blyxb36REvnJVQ7+q3vel3Zw/3LtFrSfbdT4dcnFcShvnPavBYP O0x04WWOrVm/7p4A5mm988e0ZMvjX+Y9pEijEF8xEgB11hSBr4KiVROrJ4D2Mhqm3+ mnf5Q2nuGSLLrXmmXjSE4F4js3UGzegwA8K5d38g= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:414541440:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29054fdfeb9e5e5d X-AOL-IP: 173.13.86.254 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gmane.emacs.bugs as well. Glenn Morris writes: > nyc4bos@aol.com wrote: > >> It appears that one cannot use OpenSSL when GnuTLS is installed. >> >> Gnus, for instance, will use GnuTLS opportunistically. > > Can you expain why you want to do this; ie force calling an external > program rather than use built-in support? There's a few reasons. Here's one: GnuTLS does not allow one to specify a directory of certificates to use. OpenSSL does. From unknown Wed Jun 25 03:57:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11664: 24.1; Cannot use OpenSSL when GnuTLS is installed Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 04:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11664 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: nyc4bos@aol.com Cc: 11664@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11664-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11664.134007864930678 (code B ref 11664); Tue, 19 Jun 2012 04:05:01 +0000 Received: (at 11664) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2012 04:04:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47594 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sgpfk-0007yj-9y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:04:08 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:58169) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Sgpfh-0007yb-4d for 11664@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:04:06 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SgpcR-0006oQ-2m; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:00:43 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <84ipf0j6yb.fsf@aol.com> <84ehpcdmyb.fsf@aol.com> X-Spook: bce covert video import Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Fortezza X-Ran: YgjUCNbpwciT~KEb<%Ch1nxIh]Ed>r4b!VB,VHZA|v1fl31Q]UGS[Lk[k-/KN|SoU1'y`x X-Hue: blue X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 00:00:42 -0400 In-Reply-To: <84ehpcdmyb.fsf@aol.com> (nyc4bos@aol.com's message of "Mon, 18 Jun 2012 23:01:32 -0400") Message-ID: <2dobogj6hh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) nyc4bos@aol.com wrote: > GnuTLS does not allow one to specify a directory of certificates to > use. Can you do this with the option gnutls-trustfiles, which can also be a function? Eg (lambda () (file-expand-wildcards "/path/to/certs/*")). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 05 19:54:47 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2014 00:54:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51608 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBDEs-00077U-Qy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 19:54:47 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:55365) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WBDEr-00077K-98 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 19:54:45 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WBDEd-0007yx-3C for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 01:54:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:53:28 -0800 Message-Id: <87vbwtxdrr.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #11664 X-MailScanner-ID: 1WBDEd-0007yx-3C X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392252872.12241@vtdd0kEIGOaedzj+bw3Eqw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 11664 wontfix close 11664