From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:31:54 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11601: gnus-tmp-group undocumented Resent-From: Dave Abrahams Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 11601 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 11601@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13385724513162 (code B ref -1); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:41:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2012 17:40:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53436 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaVqE-0000ox-Px for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:40:51 -0400 Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.216.44]:59717) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaVqC-0000oi-Nq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:40:50 -0400 Received: by qadz3 with SMTP id z3so595025qad.3 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:39:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:x-debbugs-version:x-debbugs-package:date:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=JB5uJZde9T8yIZeH/WcVzfafx9DMee7NjoUVIpVFiqE=; b=OnMGmaNxpO9BnEcaOeBGlHWuBYKKD31wVC8swTnfNdHAfYiLCE2rm+zpDr0J+oRHGH 7CILOfZSO3bYIlMjUAW3/ftjfMS2OmpW977gwLILbadWDY112RfMHn3pOL2kgX1Tb4ny gUhICbNa6R7m02bOs+dbD5FEkHyzhquALdozdtXhsHBNJ7uzWoyGUD9w9yORlFcyZ7R/ MdZjnNApfOfYUi+TcPza8WoSsJIPA7kj4u5mi0WQB0G+HenDXsCFEZ2T+CPJfTWdXdo6 0sXXQlwHOhTxq/cnzJ7lSwa0I1zvfGtDfIvQW7jIjNBjX9O8kl97An1VP0VZN+L8GfQk LTyQ== Received: by 10.224.96.82 with SMTP id g18mr5210654qan.0.1338572342104; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f16sm4646376qad.11.2012.06.01.10.39.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id D738A509B941; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:38:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:38:59 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.0.94 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmX9fHCuug6R5bcqXPaFktJAuZ4+IE0gzooosk3cuv8nhQNKGel15bRfM+p5aX3tI6EruGi X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) I presume all of the gnus-tmp- stuff should be documented, or this one should be changed to use some other mechanism. ,----[ (info "(gnus)Group Timestamp") ] | File: gnus, Node: Group Timestamp, Next: File Commands, Prev: Group Information, Up: Misc Group Stuff | | 2.18.3 Group Timestamp | ---------------------- | | It can be convenient to let Gnus keep track of when you last read a | group. To set the ball rolling, you should add | `gnus-group-set-timestamp' to `gnus-select-group-hook': | | (add-hook 'gnus-select-group-hook 'gnus-group-set-timestamp) | | After doing this, each time you enter a group, it'll be recorded. | | This information can be displayed in various ways--the easiest is to | use the `%d' spec in the group line format: | | (setq gnus-group-line-format | "%M\%S\%p\%P\%5y: %(%-40,40g%) %d\n") | | This will result in lines looking like: | | * 0: mail.ding 19961002T012943 | 0: custom 19961002T012713 | | As you can see, the date is displayed in compact ISO 8601 format. | This may be a bit too much, so to just display the date, you could say | something like: | | (setq gnus-group-line-format | "%M\%S\%p\%P\%5y: %(%-40,40g%) %6,6~(cut 2)d\n") | | If you would like greater control of the time format, you can use a | user-defined format spec. Something like the following should do the | trick: | | (setq gnus-group-line-format | "%M\%S\%p\%P\%5y: %(%-40,40g%) %ud\n") | (defun gnus-user-format-function-d (headers) | (let ((time (gnus-group-timestamp gnus-tmp-group))) | (if time | (format-time-string "%b %d %H:%M" time) | ""))) | `---- Ma Gnus v0.6 GNU Emacs 24.0.94.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin11.4.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0 AppKit 1138.47) of 2012-05-24 on pluto.luannocracy.com 200 news.gmane.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.1 ready (posting ok) 101 Capability list: VERSION 2 IMPLEMENTATION INN 2.5.1 AUTHINFO USER HDR LIST ACTIVE ACTIVE.TIMES DISTRIB.PATS HEADERS NEWSGROUPS OVERVIEW.FMT OVER POST READER STARTTLS . -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:31:54 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11601: gnus-tmp-group undocumented Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11601 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dave Abrahams Cc: 11601@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11601-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11601.133944942620069 (code B ref 11601); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:18:01 +0000 Received: (at 11601) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2012 21:17:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38343 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeByz-0005Dd-U4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:17:06 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:48222) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeByx-0005DU-1l for 11601@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:17:04 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeBwI-0004JP-Fl; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:14:18 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEXw7+ZYQyJoWDdKMRIz HgidknMXCgP2NUKkAAACa0lEQVQ4jaVTwY7jIAz1jpQPMGT2XJzyARS29wwW5zRd9r4axP9/wj5S jdRqjgtKQvywjZ8fRK9jqrU+/9evsYv4Z2AbYzpWmM8A5jTBcaKJvntMG4CXFNg8PGCdXh0e0Z4/ Xx7yPL75/O94FDy9vuq2UYpGxOy2lyazxiAxRNvY0JzZGuvmXnpITXNmdvheyGbD4uy1a1fVou0i 9aYlEwcjfmcATTUn1Q/kSb2RYyN1AC0HzeyC309Uz42EWaoMYI2qQcL2hoa8JZpwKAlse88ai+rq bwaELgdNLrAvvSN70+A4nia50e4rEFt/AujIz2LjOy2e5DS57cYCjwYgB0EB232Dxy7bPfAASuv6 ISkHjzZWID5p1hEKLyMW4R4k7hbbcyoDaF52KwLFSK3LOFFjIFgYT074/QYPV44oK8eRB8A9pmhJ JA17v+ZoZtQnUuekMZJLh8NnyRxsycbZAGrshdCJo7S++jO4cjaCYY0bQpXHOVe/aGC24Qr6AbzX 8wE0GDFsvIwMYOVS9yNWhA3FQQIW9qQU/XRFipRdUkbCYBzM6CCc/uD0y19XGo7Vs1lG9kz2F/3u nzyv8NCxNcYZyQ3ZD/pRWhqdK6Adz+cMu5BDkx3SodH3niPUkitkJxAD+BU2416cI+haTbVGHAB0 yrEM4A2aaBdXYUoAjEBNDgLYiFNfIQ1B0SDfMdcF3rjgi44ijd8LBOedtX4BR1AkJg5i5NyV0EXm gzxmcyK6JZAzCkTfdzfI4wcAMYOSHMlgvaM5mRHDHz+4DAB4rEEnbkDGPZrqnrpyDMQo4BbRTcU9 QAGQRIMa+R9/9sV1BsBQTAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Various Artists's _After Twilight_: "Cathy Claret - Tell Me Why Soledad" Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:14:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:38:59 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1SeBwI-0004JP-Fl X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1340054058.5608@lRw3klZZAkr7RrSoKjBHMg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Dave Abrahams writes: > I presume all of the gnus-tmp- stuff should be documented, or this one > should be changed to use some other mechanism. I've now added the following to that section in the manual: --- To see what variables are dynamically bound (like @code{gnus-tmp-group}), you have to look at the source code. The variable names aren't guaranteed to be stable over Gnus versions, either. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 11 17:17:11 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2012 21:17:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38346 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeBz5-0005Dt-J1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:17:11 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:48228) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeBz4-0005Dn-8s for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:17:10 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeBwQ-0004Jf-91 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:14:26 +0200 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:14:25 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #11601 X-MailScanner-ID: 1SeBwQ-0004Jf-91 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1340054066.47228@qACTXR2Sq2VKM2eNrDnRYw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) tags 11601 fixed close 11601 24.2 From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:31:54 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11601: gnus-tmp-group undocumented Resent-From: Dave Abrahams Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:00:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11601 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: 11601@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11601-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11601.13395131616404 (code B ref 11601); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:00:01 +0000 Received: (at 11601) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2012 14:59:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39566 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeSYy-0001fF-Nv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:59:21 -0400 Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.216.44]:44642) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeSYw-0001f6-2p for 11601@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:59:19 -0400 Received: by qadz3 with SMTP id z3so3240725qad.3 for <11601@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:56:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=onpQvSE0PUaVt9r9tLHWy4beIC7Xrlu5RV07vmCG1Aw=; b=cXG0NHTiV8xNxy+zl5TgTc9GNvp/gUcoMmsdtcPmTYDlL46JcMriaMtdxhAvARoMJP BJCBrvSMa2zkrfi4U6cyyYLQ8pZIOhADe8jFeErOtCHDZtrduuriphkKyL+W7tmH8W4k by74NVf181PQupGbKVLmQzui64iMuqeo0QewcTy6lIPR14azGg5aK2f+dnRE4ZkejjUN wZBbimmJoC8YSqLPRUDjruuj9gQzVtPaLRo9EibpSo/5EwZIZvgRmQ8h/8Xo7mCLXFrs lDOKsYurlSf5XnAJWiSUkLj25T2Ol5UJg5wUAYq4z2Lq5kwzHIJQNtvsFjOS99+gFbFO 46/w== Received: by 10.224.199.6 with SMTP id eq6mr20417355qab.90.1339512995191; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gb7sm3672399qab.12.2012.06.12.07.56.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 382B9529AF0B; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:56:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams References: Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:56:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:14:18 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.0.94 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm1pgQ8fhjhe937OweVNezbOF9b2NLxnNQ71/BiLNrnMoZI/sM6aABWaZGDScUTftjRN9oE X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) on Mon Jun 11 2012, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >> I presume all of the gnus-tmp- stuff should be documented, or this one >> should be changed to use some other mechanism. > > I've now added the following to that section in the manual: > > --- > To see what variables are dynamically bound (like > @code{gnus-tmp-group}), you have to look at the source code. The > variable names aren't guaranteed to be stable over Gnus versions, > either. You're actually recommending a customization in the manual that relies on implementation details? In fact... is there any way to write a useful gnus-user-format-function-* that doesn't rely on implementation details? This just doesn't seem right. -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:31:54 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11601: gnus-tmp-group undocumented Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11601 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Dave Abrahams Cc: 11601@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11601-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11601.134021254210095 (code B ref 11601); Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:16:01 +0000 Received: (at 11601) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jun 2012 17:15:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50128 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ShOVJ-0002cj-9U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:15:41 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:45937) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ShOVH-0002cc-Gu for 11601@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:15:40 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ShORl-00075Y-Ti; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:12:01 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEW3GDo3AARNAAnhYIqp DyvVQWnHJUrme5v3scyZCiR4BBeUCCKpmv4mAAACRElEQVQ4jV2Tv4rbQBDGB6JTuKTyQV7A6dIu /lOq2EsQaQJida1JrA2kCohjnQcIUplCCQh1gRCQmhTXyPty982sZPvyYTffb2d2ZnZEzpVKbepq HXWt9/69F/3zVDM41PV93rWd919969u2fd6RghxAubqGIS6rI5MF4JzZt2cBmBUTh986DWajddsC GAC5516naatZSZSSBcnUymSH+rsOLlFsr6kweWFMTsV2BrGxhdkjVW6LfHeV3yEVRFQopPjAgKyN dFKoNdvWbJzauDW53ALoBhl2OrE4fKhR/j3MHRGlDQ6Tpk8b7qmuXEnwI66b02u6q0WVc4TzUaql q5hoGwDmgHidTu3aM6gcfM3+D80gnkFdURtm+nP/FNTkR3kZXJ48BcPA/sggJnsBsr4fBCQY3iXo oWEYpUGym3NVDHo/hmEXofEzGBq2LQ/QzeC3gOTz2toCoJaQQ1XSksEDvxX+GSJ4MQS8AfhlWMoo BhVGiOkuOeQ2U2aV8YbNYoCQW7wmg9nGI9JLAZwo40QwS+zSVoWIt1YAhLNBALjkAVu0kv1SOK64 kgCG5lluePXAMqnQ0EJyjVgK7pxrZlk7gSEhK6wIdgAgwzRdW4or4EZukSdM4snlVVtMIWPTaIli RYmmKwZc2MgbFIWF1+8iRDDp/3zh9230SRNYDuHl09NHyCDcggKwRX7EN+27MYBQmKzLSQIWoUsO mtlxAjchZNIR/wn8Ry7AXMCLYA89vQ7+q49LafRbAH+PpwgpLUjqeATRRbvlXWAhHAAAAABJRU5E rkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Arthur Russell's _World of Echo_: "The Name of The Next Song" Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:12:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:56:32 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1ShORl-00075Y-Ti X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1340817121.97968@Lp0hPOqR8tlHsV4kWNE+XA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Dave Abrahams writes: > You're actually recommending a customization in the manual that relies > on implementation details? Yes. > In fact... is there any way to write a useful > gnus-user-format-function-* that doesn't rely on implementation > details? Nope. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/