From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 01 11:03:46 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2012 15:03:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53347 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaTOE-0005l3-MN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:03:46 -0400 Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.216.44]:47654) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaTNu-0005kV-SJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:03:46 -0400 Received: by qadz3 with SMTP id z3so483697qad.3 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:01:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:x-debbugs-version:x-debbugs-package:date:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=idBlp858NNYDVOQlvCyUAPHMdXAN3heC3+6O0zIPuyw=; b=Lpzv7pLR7/Fv81MymjRnUIQN56FIFAH9q2t23TMxs/QCXn8+psoo6grGow6YndSV3X bFL+QyZac6W8++QenJ+UBpCvt+8PhFdOBI9OUyhbBhW++e6OaTK3VP9gZZaNyTARHc28 F+Opt3xMT8CJerpq3/6k4DFfaBLTIbrov879FlgZEOaZ/AozhG13n43l1CFv6jh4k86t d7OZn11wZKOnZDZQu2rpP0o7NruHhdhvjXip7QKtBM8wmClG7z1dxnWkrwPOQQvwGkTk 4n+ByfxqXcBB9TuvbTXD12D+EqjVYu1pEsiUsBvUhY74XTIEiREHR2KdiJKSOlmNcNHb R5ow== Received: by 10.224.72.210 with SMTP id n18mr4702653qaj.10.1338562900626; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.luannocracy.com (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b2sm4062146qaf.4.2012.06.01.08.01.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 08:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.luannocracy.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0CA73508B367; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:01:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: Must subscribe in order to avoid long "nntp read:" waits X-Debbugs-Version: 5.130006 X-Debbugs-Package: gnus Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:01:35 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.0.94 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlg1i4pkyUV7WJ/KGsKZJht8FYE0pVhID6IZuZNP073KjeEJW5/okOb4ZWDorxODiNUNz3l X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) I recently got rid of my local leafnode server and went back to accessing gmane and giganews directly. However, I took things step-by-step and just added the servers without immediately subscribing any groups. What I found was that the nntp-send-mode-reader function would have to process an enormous number of lines every time I hit `G' in the *Group* buffer, which was quite slow. On a hunch I decided to subscribe a group from each of those servers and the problem went away. Ma Gnus v0.6 GNU Emacs 24.0.94.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin11.4.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0 AppKit 1138.47) of 2012-05-24 on pluto.luannocracy.com 200 news.gmane.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.1 ready (posting ok) 101 Capability list: VERSION 2 IMPLEMENTATION INN 2.5.1 AUTHINFO USER HDR LIST ACTIVE ACTIVE.TIMES DISTRIB.PATS HEADERS NEWSGROUPS OVERVIEW.FMT OVER POST READER STARTTLS . -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 11 17:20:25 2012 Received: (at 11600) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2012 21:20:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38354 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeC2D-0005JB-46 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:20:25 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:48249) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeC2A-0005J2-7k for 11600@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:20:22 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeBzV-0004Nk-Rf; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:17:37 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#11600: Must subscribe in order to avoid long "nntp read:" waits References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEXw7+ZYQyJoWDdKMRIz HgidknMXCgP2NUKkAAACa0lEQVQ4jaVTwY7jIAz1jpQPMGT2XJzyARS29wwW5zRd9r4axP9/wj5S jdRqjgtKQvywjZ8fRK9jqrU+/9evsYv4Z2AbYzpWmM8A5jTBcaKJvntMG4CXFNg8PGCdXh0e0Z4/ Xx7yPL75/O94FDy9vuq2UYpGxOy2lyazxiAxRNvY0JzZGuvmXnpITXNmdvheyGbD4uy1a1fVou0i 9aYlEwcjfmcATTUn1Q/kSb2RYyN1AC0HzeyC309Uz42EWaoMYI2qQcL2hoa8JZpwKAlse88ai+rq bwaELgdNLrAvvSN70+A4nia50e4rEFt/AujIz2LjOy2e5DS57cYCjwYgB0EB232Dxy7bPfAASuv6 ISkHjzZWID5p1hEKLyMW4R4k7hbbcyoDaF52KwLFSK3LOFFjIFgYT074/QYPV44oK8eRB8A9pmhJ JA17v+ZoZtQnUuekMZJLh8NnyRxsycbZAGrshdCJo7S++jO4cjaCYY0bQpXHOVe/aGC24Qr6AbzX 8wE0GDFsvIwMYOVS9yNWhA3FQQIW9qQU/XRFipRdUkbCYBzM6CCc/uD0y19XGo7Vs1lG9kz2F/3u nzyv8NCxNcYZyQ3ZD/pRWhqdK6Adz+cMu5BDkx3SodH3niPUkitkJxAD+BU2416cI+haTbVGHAB0 yrEM4A2aaBdXYUoAjEBNDgLYiFNfIQ1B0SDfMdcF3rjgi44ijd8LBOedtX4BR1AkJg5i5NyV0EXm gzxmcyK6JZAzCkTfdzfI4wcAMYOSHMlgvaM5mRHDHz+4DAB4rEEnbkDGPZrqnrpyDMQo4BbRTcU9 QAGQRIMa+R9/9sV1BsBQTAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Various Artists's _After Twilight_: "Cathy Claret - Tell Me Why Soledad" Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:17:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:01:35 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1SeBzV-0004Nk-Rf X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1340054258.03764@mrBtODfgfV+oxxlj6epL1g X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11600 Cc: 11600@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Dave Abrahams writes: > What I found was that the nntp-send-mode-reader function would have to > process an enormous number of lines every time I hit `G' in the > *Group* buffer, which was quite slow. Uhm... `nntp-send-mode-reader' doesn't process anything. Could you ELP-instrument nntp and see what takes so long? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 05 14:24:42 2012 Received: (at 11600) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2012 18:24:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40949 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9KHI-0002tq-2j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:24:42 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38189) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9KHD-0002th-7Y for 11600@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:24:39 -0400 Received: from ip-200-13-149-91.dialup.ice.net ([91.149.13.200] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9KGq-0002KC-KP; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:24:13 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#11600: Must subscribe in order to avoid long "nntp read:" waits References: X-Now-Playing: Isotope 217's _The Unstable Molecule_ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:24:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:17:37 +0200") Message-ID: <87wr08s4za.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1T9KGq-0002KC-KP X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1347474253.42741@LEEOuisK+c9eZDhRKQcXhQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11600 Cc: 11600@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> What I found was that the nntp-send-mode-reader function would have to >> process an enormous number of lines every time I hit `G' in the >> *Group* buffer, which was quite slow. > > Uhm... `nntp-send-mode-reader' doesn't process anything. > > Could you ELP-instrument nntp and see what takes so long? Any progress here? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 17 16:42:08 2012 Received: (at 11600) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2012 20:42:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40368 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDi8r-0007ss-4K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:42:08 -0400 Received: from mail-qc0-f172.google.com ([209.85.216.172]:43061) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDi8i-0007sN-5a for 11600@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:42:03 -0400 Received: by qcac10 with SMTP id c10so5873500qca.3 for <11600@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:40:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=hlxsHUFaHkKpmqvs2UZSYxI5B9UigjJkDqkOj1qsCxU=; b=Wrp14goT5W1lrH6Nerr0UoGSrgRLBqhb1wjyLD7CJ0GMzIMEW+5cSsWNbnV3lSgQKY lreleoCueQCvhMcFPP8n+q/7KnsK1i1r6xHcwyiL/CDAPI32deLc6SJPRMG28lmU0/tS 104wgGVakeBepb2jHhsM08L02phqsMxOtSXCkqswDYFcgYC7LGYGPeJCoPELomZGwLlh /WF5pQz17k1UhLaM+jPwnOQIwwicMzywAlgHdHVUD/qQJdn62nobqzQDbHrk8RzV0qDW czll/jxlBopKHC73+DNNT3RAsON3fJoXYqm1rGkQ5kR5KA4EJHiVF67mS8r3szicDNzD HNqw== Received: by 10.224.191.130 with SMTP id dm2mr29839309qab.98.1347914439334; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.local (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com. [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dg10sm16557821qab.12.2012.09.17.13.40.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pluto.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id F15AB62B4EEC; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:40:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Abrahams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#11600: Must subscribe in order to avoid long "nntp read:" waits References: <87wr08s4za.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:40:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wr08s4za.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:24:09 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnAYUexQ+S0ruwi2QrF9PYSZFbUgpeE9n0Y6nosqpVY60RyhtolVIK9Z3Ipf8pFNkyQMr1o X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11600 Cc: 11600@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain on Wed Sep 05 2012, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > >>> What I found was that the nntp-send-mode-reader function would have to >>> process an enormous number of lines every time I hit `G' in the >>> *Group* buffer, which was quite slow. >> >> Uhm... `nntp-send-mode-reader' doesn't process anything. >> >> Could you ELP-instrument nntp and see what takes so long? > > Any progress here? I just reproduced this behavior and ELP'd it with mkdir /tmp/larsi mv /tmp/larsi/ HOME=/tmp/larsi emacs `M-x el-get-install RET nognus RET' `M-x RET gnus RET' Naturally, I can't give you the .authinfo file that goes with this directory, but I'm sure you can massage things appropriately. el-get takes a *long* time to initialize the first time you start emacs with this init file; I'm sure you have a faster way to get the latest Gnus into your load-path, but this is reliable. It produced the following ELP results --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- nntp-request-list 3 12.511693000 4.1705643333 nntp-with-open-group-function 3 12.511677 4.170559 nntp-send-command-and-decode 3 12.511605 4.170535 nntp-accept-process-output 1984 12.323542999 0.0062114632 nntp-open-server 3 3.848937 1.2829789999 nntp-open-connection 3 3.848764 1.2829213333 nntp-send-mode-reader 3 0.361392 0.120464 nntp-decode-text 11 0.356008 0.0323643636 nntp-send-authinfo 4 0.05992 0.01498 nntp-handle-authinfo 1 0.057592 0.057592 nntp-find-connection-buffer 1984 0.0036499999 1.839...e-06 nntp-read-server-type 3 7.9e-05 2.633...e-05 nntp-make-process-buffer 3 3.8e-05 1.266...e-05 nntp-possibly-change-group 3 2.499...e-05 8.333...e-06 nntp-erase-buffer 17 2e-05 1.176...e-06 nntp-server-opened 9 1.499...e-05 1.666...e-06 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=.emacs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (add-to-list 'load-path "~/.emacs.d/el-get/el-get") (unless (require 'el-get nil t) (url-retrieve "https://raw.github.com/dimitri/el-get/master/el-get-install.el" (lambda (s) (let (el-get-master-branch) (goto-char (point-max)) (eval-print-last-sexp))))) (el-get 'sync) (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(gnus-select-method '(nnimap "LocalIMAP" (nnimap-address "localhost") (nnimap-user "dave") (nnimap-server-port 9143) (nnimap-stream network)) ) (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(gnus-activate-level 1) '(gnus-after-getting-new-news-hook (quote (gnus-display-time-event-handler gnus-group-save-newsrc))) '(gnus-agent-expire-all t) '(gnus-agent-expire-days 14) '(gnus-agent-go-online t) '(gnus-agent-mark-unread-after-downloaded nil) '(gnus-agent-synchronize-flags t) '(gnus-always-read-dribble-file t) '(gnus-article-address-banner-alist (quote (("@sig\\.com\\'" . signature) ("@volcanocorp\\.com\\'" . signature)))) '(gnus-article-date-lapsed-new-header t) '(gnus-article-sort-functions (quote ((not gnus-article-sort-by-number)))) '(gnus-article-update-date-headers nil) '(gnus-asynchronous t) '(gnus-auto-select-next nil nil nil " *** VERY IMPORTANT SETTING ***. See http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=9399") '(gnus-buttonized-mime-types (quote ("multipart/alternative"))) '(gnus-check-new-newsgroups nil) '(gnus-cited-closed-text-button-line-format "...... ") '(gnus-cited-lines-visible (quote (5 . 10))) '(gnus-cited-opened-text-button-line-format "") '(gnus-completing-read-function (quote gnus-ido-completing-read)) '(gnus-default-article-saver (quote gnus-summary-write-to-file)) '(gnus-default-directory "~") '(gnus-duplicate-list-length 100000) '(gnus-extra-headers (quote (To Cc Content-Type))) '(gnus-gcc-mark-as-read t) '(gnus-generate-tree-function (quote gnus-generate-horizontal-tree)) '(gnus-group-default-list-level 4) '(gnus-group-line-format "%S%p%P%5y%5T: %(%B%G%B%) ") '(gnus-group-mode-hook (quote (gnus-topic-mode gnus-agent-mode))) '(gnus-group-use-permanent-levels t) '(gnus-ignored-from-addresses "^david.abrahams@rcn.com\\|dave@boost\\(-consulting\\|pro\\).com$") '(gnus-ignored-mime-types (quote ("application/x-pkcs7-signature" "application/ms-tnef" "text/x-vcard"))) '(gnus-interactive-exit (quote quiet)) '(gnus-large-newsgroup 1000) '(gnus-local-domain "boostpro.com") '(gnus-message-archive-group (quote ((format-time-string "sent.%Y-%m")))) '(gnus-message-replyencrypt nil) '(gnus-novice-user nil) '(gnus-parameters (quote (("^INBOX" (expiry-wait . immediate) (expiry-target . delete) (display . [or (not reply) (not expire)]))))) '(gnus-read-active-file nil) '(gnus-read-newsrc-file nil) '(gnus-refer-article-method (quote (current (nnregistry) (nnir "nnimap:LocalIMAP") (nntp "Gmane" (nntp-address "news.gmane.org")) (nntp "GigaNews" (nntp-address "text.giganews.com") (nntp-authinfo-user "dabrahams")) (nntp "LocalNNTP" (nntp-address "localhost") (nntp-port-number 9119)))) nil nil "***** NOTE: NEED TO RESTORE (nnregistry) here") '(gnus-refer-thread-use-nnir t) '(gnus-safe-html-newsgroups ".") '(gnus-save-duplicate-list t) '(gnus-save-killed-list nil) '(gnus-save-newsrc-file nil) '(gnus-score-default-duration (quote p)) '(gnus-score-expiry-days 30) '(gnus-score-find-score-files-function (quote (gnus-score-find-hierarchical))) '(gnus-secondary-select-methods (quote ((nntp "GigaNews" (nntp-address "text.giganews.com") (nntp-authinfo-user "dabrahams")) (nntp "Gmane" (nntp-address "news.gmane.org")) (nnimap "GMail" (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com") (nnimap-server-port 993) (nnimap-stream ssl) (nnimap-user "dave.abrahams@gmail.com")) (nntp "Gwene" (nntp-address "news.gwene.org"))))) '(gnus-select-group-hook (quote (gnus-group-set-timestamp))) '(gnus-select-method (quote (nnimap "LocalIMAP" (nnimap-address "localhost") (nnimap-user "dave") (nnimap-server-port 9143) (nnimap-stream network)))) '(gnus-signature-separator (quote ("^-- $" "^-- *$" "^_____+$" "^-----+ ? NOTICE: "))) '(gnus-simplify-subject-functions (quote (gnus-simplify-subject-fuzzy))) '(gnus-sort-gathered-threads-function (quote gnus-thread-sort-by-date) t) '(gnus-spam-process-destinations (quote (("^\\(\\(nnimap\\+\\)?LocalIMAP:\\)?[^+]*$" "[Gmail].Spam")))) '(gnus-spam-process-newsgroups (quote (("^\\(\\(nntp\\+\\)?LocalNNTP:\\)?gmane\\." 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custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. ) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain HTH, -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing Software Development Training http://www.boostpro.com Clang/LLVM/EDG Compilers C++ Boost --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 25 12:08:24 2012 Received: (at 11600) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2012 17:08:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59439 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnXzI-0000et-5F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:08:24 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:52047) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnXzC-0000eh-1o for 11600@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:08:18 -0500 Received: from ip-90-20-179-93.dialup.ice.net ([93.179.20.90] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnXyQ-0004qu-1i; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 18:07:27 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#11600: Must subscribe in order to avoid long "nntp read:" waits In-Reply-To: (Dave Abrahams's message of "Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:40:35 -0400") References: <87wr08s4za.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Winston Tong's _Theoretically Chinese_ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 18:07:23 +0100 Message-ID: <87bodi5ad0.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1TnXyQ-0004qu-1i X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1357060047.37614@Lp7ZtvGBBkEEAkqvEs5FwQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11600 Cc: 11600@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Dave Abrahams writes: > It produced the following ELP results > nntp-request-list 3 12.511693000 4.1705643333 > nntp-with-open-group-function 3 12.511677 4.170559 > nntp-send-command-and-decode 3 12.511605 4.170535 > nntp-accept-process-output 1984 12.323542999 0.0062114632 This just seems to say that you're reading huge active files. Or big active files from slow servers. All the time is spent waiting for output. The confusing thing is that you have `gnus-read-active-file' set to nil (which isn't a good choice, but, anyway), but still `nntp-request-list' is called three times. When I set that variable to nil, I get no calls to that function. Could you do a `debug-on-entry' on that function to see what's triggering the calls? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 06 14:05:34 2013 Received: (at 11600) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jul 2013 18:05:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35187 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvWrW-00074C-Dq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:05:34 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:57523) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvWrR-00073x-Fl for 11600@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:05:32 -0400 Received: from 46.157.223.218.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.157.223.218] helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UvWrD-0003tk-5v; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:05:15 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#11600: Must subscribe in order to avoid long "nntp read:" waits References: <87wr08s4za.fsf@gnus.org> <87bodi5ad0.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:05:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87bodi5ad0.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 25 Dec 2012 18:07:23 +0100") Message-ID: <874nc7lg34.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1UvWrD-0003tk-5v X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1373738716.52781@dr7jx357BAzAAIw0POyoJA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11600 Cc: 11600@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Could you do a `debug-on-entry' on that function to see what's > triggering the calls? Did you try this? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 30 18:11:53 2014 Received: (at 11600) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2014 23:11:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41871 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W90lx-0001lx-Vy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:11:53 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:36388) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W90lr-0001le-SB for 11600@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:11:47 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1W90lZ-0001vx-MO; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 00:11:26 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Dave Abrahams Subject: Re: bug#11600: Must subscribe in order to avoid long "nntp read:" waits References: <87wr08s4za.fsf@gnus.org> <87bodi5ad0.fsf@gnus.org> <874nc7lg34.fsf@building.gnus.org> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:10:37 -0800 In-Reply-To: <874nc7lg34.fsf@building.gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 06 Jul 2013 20:05:03 +0200") Message-ID: <877g9hcbgy.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1W90lZ-0001vx-MO X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1391728287.3582@LT+Pv88UxiJ5uujv+9cS0A X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11600 Cc: 11600@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Could you do a `debug-on-entry' on that function to see what's >> triggering the calls? > > Did you try this? More data was requested a year ago, but none were giving, so I'm closing this bug report. Please reopen if further progress is made. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 30 18:11:50 2014 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2014 23:11:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41869 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W90lx-0001lv-HN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:11:49 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:36394) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W90lv-0001li-A1 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:11:47 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1W90lf-0001wF-UL for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 00:11:32 +0100 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:10:43 -0800 Message-Id: <8761p1cbgs.fsf@building.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #11600 X-MailScanner-ID: 1W90lf-0001wF-UL X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1391728294.12618@xQj8aazzdfofZTGaHb3uYg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 11600 From unknown Mon Jun 23 13:12:16 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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