From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:46:37 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#11599 <11599@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#11599 <11599@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: New Gnus reads full group information too often Reply-To: bug#11599 <11599@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 14:46:37 +0000 retitle 11599 New Gnus reads full group information too often reassign 11599 emacs,gnus submitter 11599 John Wiegley severity 11599 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 31 21:03:45 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2012 01:03:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52494 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaGHI-000286-KA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 21:03:44 -0400 Received: from mail-gh0-f170.google.com ([209.85.160.170]:63280) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaGGw-00027a-HD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 21:03:42 -0400 Received: by ghbg2 with SMTP id g2so2247790ghb.29 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:01:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=to:subject:x-debbugs-version:x-debbugs-package:from:date:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=CA75X9EGhDknfmpT3jAn/TiSQCV+lH1S2qeqABth1jI=; b=tR0gl3YAzW54Hwt2Hz0V6GtjkmTxdOFbQOQo5LFPOSLKXus/lk2V7NIZLP4YN9WYes kZ0iKk+eMdTPD9aiiVWCojXKYx1sAzp/diKSEQKprxZ6Nwxvp2DeOHGQAJugj+mckq1p VrgvfaZEDHwjVWWCxONhHJtunsZuM2gRPi6cbGjxd1XrNWzxgRYjFLLQVw5DF+wKtvho w1TXe7uMF6C6mj8zKzU28cazm9eLqPtCLx2IBuhFDLeXanIEtmdmu0dejjiO9wMsLh+i GXDO/K+5EPwWlXqFDWVxd/u1Hg7FqNptmGhjkMD0MwY0/1jm7d7RwHKfrLyoXImoLV9c SQIg== Received: by 10.42.77.9 with SMTP id g9mr421768ick.4.1338512499625; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vulcan.local (c-98-215-105-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.215.105.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ut5sm562369igc.13.2012.05.31.18.01.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 31 May 2012 18:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id C2CF3EB3D3EE; Thu, 31 May 2012 20:01:37 -0500 (CDT) To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: New Gnus reads full group information too often X-Debbugs-Version: 5.130006 X-Debbugs-Package: gnus From: John Wiegley Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 20:01:37 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/23.4 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) I have many mailing lists in IMAP, newsgroups in NNTP, and virtual groups that aggregate these two into topical categories. With the latest Ma Gnus from Git: 1. Hit 'g' to update all my Groups. This is fast. 2. Hit 'g' again, this is very fast. 3. Press RET to visit any IMAP group. 4. Hit 'g', things are still very fast. 5. Press RET to visit any IMAP group. Then press RET to visit any other IMAP group. 6. Hit 'g'. Now I see this in the minibuffer: nnimap read 876k from localhost (initial sync of 1 group; please wait) 7. The real problem is that if I visit several groups (some upwards of 200,000 messages on the IMAP server), the next time I hit 'g' it will read many tens of megabytes from every one of those groups, taking more than a minute and completely locking up Emacs. This is new behavior, as I always run the following after hitting 'g': --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (defun gnus-score-groups (&optional arg) (interactive) (save-excursion (dolist (info (cdr gnus-newsrc-alist)) ;; Only consider this group if it's at or below the current level (when (<= (gnus-info-level info) (if (numberp arg) arg (or (gnus-group-default-level nil t) (funcall (symbol-function 'gnus-group-default-list-level)) gnus-level-subscribed))) (let* ((group (gnus-info-group info)) (unread (gnus-group-unread group))) (when (and (string-match "^\\(list\\.\\|nntp\\+LocalNews:\\)" group) (not (string= "INBOX" group)) (numberp unread) (> unread 0)) (ignore-errors (gnus-summary-read-group group nil t)) (when (and gnus-summary-buffer (buffer-live-p gnus-summary-buffer) (eq (current-buffer) (get-buffer gnus-summary-buffer))) (message "Exiting summary for group %s ..." group) (gnus-summary-exit)))))))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- This visits every IMAP or NNTP group that uses adaptive scoring, so that the resulting unread counts reflect reality. Yet after I run this, Gnus does an "initial sync" of 33 or more groups, bringing Emacs to its knees every time. I started noticing this behavior in the last couple days. I've updated Gnus twice in that time (I think). Right now I'm at commit 1bd6e87. Thanks, John Wiegley Ma Gnus v0.6 GNU Emacs 23.4.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin11.2.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0 AppKit 1138.23) of 2012-01-31 on vulcan 200 Leafnode NNTP daemon, version 2.0.0.alpha20110815a.luascript at newartisans.com 500 Unknown command From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 11 17:27:01 2012 Received: (at 11599) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2012 21:27:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38358 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeC8b-0005Ru-B9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:27:01 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:37810) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeC8Y-0005Rl-23 for 11599@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:26:59 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeC5t-0004TC-Ih; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:24:13 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: John Wiegley Subject: Re: bug#11599: New Gnus reads full group information too often References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEXw7+ZYQyJoWDdKMRIz HgidknMXCgP2NUKkAAACa0lEQVQ4jaVTwY7jIAz1jpQPMGT2XJzyARS29wwW5zRd9r4axP9/wj5S jdRqjgtKQvywjZ8fRK9jqrU+/9evsYv4Z2AbYzpWmM8A5jTBcaKJvntMG4CXFNg8PGCdXh0e0Z4/ Xx7yPL75/O94FDy9vuq2UYpGxOy2lyazxiAxRNvY0JzZGuvmXnpITXNmdvheyGbD4uy1a1fVou0i 9aYlEwcjfmcATTUn1Q/kSb2RYyN1AC0HzeyC309Uz42EWaoMYI2qQcL2hoa8JZpwKAlse88ai+rq bwaELgdNLrAvvSN70+A4nia50e4rEFt/AujIz2LjOy2e5DS57cYCjwYgB0EB232Dxy7bPfAASuv6 ISkHjzZWID5p1hEKLyMW4R4k7hbbcyoDaF52KwLFSK3LOFFjIFgYT074/QYPV44oK8eRB8A9pmhJ JA17v+ZoZtQnUuekMZJLh8NnyRxsycbZAGrshdCJo7S++jO4cjaCYY0bQpXHOVe/aGC24Qr6AbzX 8wE0GDFsvIwMYOVS9yNWhA3FQQIW9qQU/XRFipRdUkbCYBzM6CCc/uD0y19XGo7Vs1lG9kz2F/3u nzyv8NCxNcYZyQ3ZD/pRWhqdK6Adz+cMu5BDkx3SodH3niPUkitkJxAD+BU2416cI+haTbVGHAB0 yrEM4A2aaBdXYUoAjEBNDgLYiFNfIQ1B0SDfMdcF3rjgi44ijd8LBOedtX4BR1AkJg5i5NyV0EXm gzxmcyK6JZAzCkTfdzfI4wcAMYOSHMlgvaM5mRHDHz+4DAB4rEEnbkDGPZrqnrpyDMQo4BbRTcU9 QAGQRIMa+R9/9sV1BsBQTAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Various Artists's _After Twilight_: "Blaine L. Reininger - Throat Singing" Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:24:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Thu, 31 May 2012 20:01:37 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1SeC5t-0004TC-Ih X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1340054653.64914@06T6NNkAvgH46rJ5qbOGmQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11599 Cc: 11599@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) John Wiegley writes: > 5. Press RET to visit any IMAP group. Then press RET to visit any other > IMAP group. > > 6. Hit 'g'. Now I see this in the minibuffer: > > nnimap read 876k from localhost (initial sync of 1 group; please wait) Right. Something happens to the `unexist' tracking that makes Gnus think that it needs to do a full resync, because it's gotten totally out of sync. I've had the same report from another user who's done extensive tracing to try to find out why this happens, but so far I haven't been able to reproduce or figure out why this happens. Could you try to `g' until it stops doing the "initial sync" thing. And then `G E' on a group when it's "ok", and then `G E' the group again after you've triggered the "initial sync" thing? I think nnimap messes up the group data somehow... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 11 20:37:53 2012 Received: (at 11599) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2012 00:37:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38505 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeF7F-0004UR-Qd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:37:53 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.213.44]:48006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SeF7A-0004UF-11 for 11599@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:37:48 -0400 Received: by yhq56 with SMTP id 56so3138833yhq.3 for <11599@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:35:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:references:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=PwptPoLK2vhpa/wRV18MRdw8shElpMuWEoI2WakYKRA=; b=cqXmFy3oA2QYy+96C474Kz9y7r97eBjDFiScMrtgcr6tZSX5erHtdGh8zTZoGY6hpN AxfUZaNi1HhCPu0jMZfA51sD5J+r5kMU/xkvySQ1uEnj7Kgsp++9rxiVm4tpJ7j2eklW 6YZvxswKhFZ2oTKIo+OXjDpZHQctj6wkJL6kmyaEJsMxA+3urkbA/zdZWi+rHbIql9y4 qM2a3dfK1oyk05BOLnYsAmqn7dH2B9pZsJEBMqhGB7UeOoe4UusKebHr9TbYjGxwwy/9 vkm/yxWUeUrz50rQSfx7l0Z6IZPrN9Y819MMd1KK0+dBsbDnKzgRIpKVVjhLNTvOlhME hFvw== Received: by 10.101.131.14 with SMTP id i14mr7375560ann.44.1339461304230; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vulcan.local (c-98-215-105-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.215.105.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p3sm28505980ano.11.2012.06.11.17.35.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 7A1E4EE3E108; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:35:00 -0500 (CDT) From: John Wiegley To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#11599: New Gnus reads full group information too often Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:45:41 -0500 References: Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11599 Cc: Dave Abrahams , 11599@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Right. Something happens to the `unexist' tracking that makes Gnus think > that it needs to do a full resync, because it's gotten totally out of sync. > I've had the same report from another user who's done extensive tracing to > try to find out why this happens, but so far I haven't been able to > reproduce or figure out why this happens. > Could you try to `g' until it stops doing the "initial sync" thing. And > then `G E' on a group when it's "ok", and then `G E' the group again after > you've triggered the "initial sync" thing? I think nnimap messes up the > group data somehow... You know, I think this was Dovecot's fault, not Gnus. I noticed that in the groups where this was occurring, the IMAP message counts got doubled (in some cases, many times over). So I killed all the dups, did a force-resync on everything, and since then Gnus has never said "initial sync" to me. So, all is back to normal here, but I'm still in the dark as to what caused the message duplication, or the re-syncing in Gnus. Which one came first is a mystery to me. John From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 20 13:32:59 2012 Received: (at 11599) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jun 2012 17:33:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50142 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ShOm3-0003qD-Bt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:32:59 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:49936) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ShOm1-0003q6-Aw for 11599@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:32:58 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ShOiV-0007NY-DX; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:29:19 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: John Wiegley Subject: Re: bug#11599: New Gnus reads full group information too often References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEW3GDo3AARNAAnhYIqp DyvVQWnHJUrme5v3scyZCiR4BBeUCCKpmv4mAAACRElEQVQ4jV2Tv4rbQBDGB6JTuKTyQV7A6dIu /lOq2EsQaQJida1JrA2kCohjnQcIUplCCQh1gRCQmhTXyPty982sZPvyYTffb2d2ZnZEzpVKbepq HXWt9/69F/3zVDM41PV93rWd919969u2fd6RghxAubqGIS6rI5MF4JzZt2cBmBUTh986DWajddsC GAC5516naatZSZSSBcnUymSH+rsOLlFsr6kweWFMTsV2BrGxhdkjVW6LfHeV3yEVRFQopPjAgKyN dFKoNdvWbJzauDW53ALoBhl2OrE4fKhR/j3MHRGlDQ6Tpk8b7qmuXEnwI66b02u6q0WVc4TzUaql q5hoGwDmgHidTu3aM6gcfM3+D80gnkFdURtm+nP/FNTkR3kZXJ48BcPA/sggJnsBsr4fBCQY3iXo oWEYpUGym3NVDHo/hmEXofEzGBq2LQ/QzeC3gOTz2toCoJaQQ1XSksEDvxX+GSJ4MQS8AfhlWMoo BhVGiOkuOeQ2U2aV8YbNYoCQW7wmg9nGI9JLAZwo40QwS+zSVoWIt1YAhLNBALjkAVu0kv1SOK64 kgCG5lluePXAMqnQ0EJyjVgK7pxrZlk7gSEhK6wIdgAgwzRdW4or4EZukSdM4snlVVtMIWPTaIli RYmmKwZc2MgbFIWF1+8iRDDp/3zh9230SRNYDuHl09NHyCDcggKwRX7EN+27MYBQmKzLSQIWoUsO mtlxAjchZNIR/wn8Ry7AXMCLYA89vQ7+q49LafRbAH+PpwgpLUjqeATRRbvlXWAhHAAAAABJRU5E rkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Arthur Russell's _World of Echo_: "Our Last Night Together" Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:29:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:45:41 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1ShOiV-0007NY-DX X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1340818159.52614@UyUQWzqje7zq7WwscUv8rA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11599 Cc: Dave Abrahams , 11599@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) John Wiegley writes: > You know, I think this was Dovecot's fault, not Gnus. I noticed that > in the groups where this was occurring, the IMAP message counts got > doubled (in some cases, many times over). So I killed all the dups, > did a force-resync on everything, and since then Gnus has never said > "initial sync" to me. Right. But since this is something that Dovecot seems to do sporadically, it's probably a bug in Gnus that triggers it somehow. I still haven't been able to reproduce it, though. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 22 12:05:04 2012 Received: (at 11599) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jun 2012 16:05:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53114 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Si6Lz-00038r-U2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:05:04 -0400 Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com ([209.85.213.172]:54914) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Si1lX-0003LQ-0j for 11599@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:11:06 -0400 Received: by yenq13 with SMTP id q13so1384949yen.3 for <11599@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:07:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=C7vmh1NTzV4GW612be6ywwRUdtIvWjm+IZJtF2dRL+E=; b=W1vOd2V1Qhke8dWpbKcBl1VIobxKyo+sf4mUrMXcB1MmqI38UEkPoA13d8cdBVow2e cP4baEYbRzjLjfNTQQ08obLn8OARYVm/TWogjl5sG6aznUD3WEb+dy0sheI/2MhkrDvi pJNsi0kPGVtEO3JStD6gKAW0G9hTq5p6L/1K123BvRUxYQjUSB/WzBB10ogNhXGe91De dVx58AQ1IOEQvrYzMhHEj99S3ph6wvBHngxW+qyIA5CrSMZcXEUj0796Nx4FKQEvJGvR H7YBR7ccSJvuqIW7MreusywBn3WB6icsU66Vd4zm1ijJgDx8Klbt3rMzhXk2OVkVTnbx M8Cg== Received: by 10.50.187.200 with SMTP id fu8mr1063874igc.6.1340363244532; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vulcan.local (c-98-215-105-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [98.215.105.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bj4sm20676597igc.16.2012.06.22.04.07.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 22 Jun 2012 04:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vulcan.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id E8277F03E9EE; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:07:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "John Wiegley" To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#11599: New Gnus reads full group information too often Organization: BoostPro Computing, Inc. References: Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:07:22 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:29:19 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11599 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:04:58 -0400 Cc: Dave Abrahams , 11599@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Right. But since this is something that Dovecot seems to do > sporadically, it's probably a bug in Gnus that triggers it somehow. I > still haven't been able to reproduce it, though. It's come back again, somewhat. When I hit '6 g', I see "initial sync of 1 group(s)", every time. No message duplication happening in Dovecot this time, though. -- John Wiegley BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 05 14:23:34 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2012 18:23:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40944 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9KGD-0002ru-ND for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:23:33 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38162) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9KGC-0002rn-Fv for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 14:23:32 -0400 Received: from ip-200-13-149-91.dialup.ice.net ([91.149.13.200] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9KFy-0002IZ-Bx for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:23:18 +0200 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:23:15 +0200 Message-Id: <871uigtjl8.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #12133 X-MailScanner-ID: 1T9KFy-0002IZ-Bx X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1347474199.1053@z5I0mg+i9c2bzl2ScDSQ3w X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) merge 12133 11599 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 25 09:46:01 2017 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2017 14:46:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41687 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWOpl-0003Dc-0B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 09:46:01 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:42112) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWOph-00039U-Cp for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 09:45:57 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWOeZ-0002Nc-Ml for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:34:30 +0100 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:34:22 +0100 Message-Id: <874m0n6wep.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #11599 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) reassign 11599 emacs,gnus From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 25 09:46:06 2017 Received: (at 11599) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2017 14:46:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41691 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWOpn-0003GB-7l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 09:46:06 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:42112) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWOph-00039U-S6 for 11599@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 09:46:02 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWObq-0007b1-NF; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:31:42 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "John Wiegley" Subject: Re: bug#11599: New Gnus reads full group information too often References: Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:31:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Fri, 22 Jun 2012 06:07:22 -0500") Message-ID: <8760l36wjf.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11599 Cc: Dave Abrahams , 11599@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "John Wiegley" writes: >>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Right. But since this is something that Dovecot seems to do >> sporadically, it's probably a bug in Gnus that triggers it somehow. I >> still haven't been able to reproduce it, though. > > It's come back again, somewhat. When I hit '6 g', I see "initial sync of 1 > group(s)", every time. No message duplication happening in Dovecot this time, > though. I think the message duplication issue has been fixed? But I still see the "Initial sync" thing from time on some servers, mainly Gmail. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 19 12:14:50 2020 Received: (at 11599) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2020 16:14:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32874 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxBxi-0000PP-K6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 12:14:50 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35406) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxBxg-0000P8-IV for 11599@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 12:14:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=X5I8oQZbhqm9g5wfYgq18j5XvYd3/JYR4bNUeHeYWsw=; b=AJIeWPd9gCLHG5sg+uGgTaNAtI KTn7YjcYeID+oSVMbZngnQt16Qo9JMWtXYTL9RC44eXZidyfovAk4clzebueZWDcUe5f8VMe78eci TzkMYb3aOie/eUqfsW8dxqSlz77ODbLWBUZtB+eTakTMHwn7uYqaiWZEIzBNy5caCo7s=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jxBxW-0001Rt-Tr; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 18:14:41 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "John Wiegley" Subject: Re: bug#11599: New Gnus reads full group information too often References: <8760l36wjf.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 18:14:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8760l36wjf.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:31:32 +0100") Message-ID: <87pn8rmqhe.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I think the message duplication issue has been fixed? But I still see > the "Initial sync" thing from time on some servers, mainly Gmail. I haven't seen this is some years now, so I'm going to go ahead and guess that this problem has gone away, and I'm closing this bug report. 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