From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:34:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11597: df calculus wrong? 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:50:39 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Hello everybody, first of all let me say a big thank you -and all the others- for spending time and life donation to the GPL, FSF, .... world of Linux. I am not an developer but mathematics is one of my favs so how can the following explained? Command issued df -h response ----paste start ----- Dateisystem Größe Benut Verf Ben% Eingehängt auf /dev/sda1 36G 25G 9,1G 73% / .... ----paste end ----- Circumstances and conditions: Ubuntu 10.04 lts server SDA is a physical SATA connected drive Installation language de Execution is done via ssh due to headless server system If size (Größe) is 36GB and occupied space (Benut) is 25GB -guess- remaining space (Verf) is below 10GB there must be a bug in calculation or in the way the first two values were derived from the system. If there would be a diff of +-1 digit nobody would think about but in this case there is a mismatch in the msd (most signifikant digit) I would really appreciate feedback that the mail is recieved and if there will be actions taken upon. Sincerely Sterzenbach From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:34:07 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: system@wody2001.de Subject: bug#11597: closed (Re: bug#11597: df calculus wrong?) Message-ID: References: <4FC7F9D0.9000901@draigBrady.com> <1338503161.3864.25.camel@vdr-big.fritz.box> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 11597 X-Gnu-PR-Package: coreutils Reply-To: 11597@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:11:01 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1338505861-27447-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1338505861-27447-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #11597: df calculus wrong? which was filed against the coreutils package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 11597@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 11597: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D11597 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1338505861-27447-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 11597-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2012 23:10:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52410 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaEVL-00077c-Hk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 19:10:08 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:14719) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaEV0-00076R-LW for 11597-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 19:10:06 -0400 Received: from int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.22]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4VN83ZS016637 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 31 May 2012 19:08:03 -0400 Received: from [10.36.116.54] (ovpn-116-54.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.116.54]) by int-mx09.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4VN81IX029884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 31 May 2012 19:08:02 -0400 Message-ID: <4FC7F9D0.9000901@draigBrady.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:08:00 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UMOhZHJhaWcgQnJhZHk=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110816 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: system@wody2001.de Subject: Re: bug#11597: df calculus wrong? References: <1338503161.3864.25.camel@vdr-big.fritz.box> In-Reply-To: <1338503161.3864.25.camel@vdr-big.fritz.box> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mx1.redhat.com id q4VN83ZS016637 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11597-done Cc: 11597-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) tags 11597 notabug On 05/31/2012 11:26 PM, system wrote: > Hello everybody,=20 >=20 > first of all let me say a big thank you -and all the others- for > spending time and life donation to the GPL, FSF, .... world of Linux.=20 >=20 >=20 > I am not an developer but mathematics is one of my favs so how can the > following explained?=20 >=20 > Command issued=20 > df -h >=20 > response=20 > ----paste start ----- > Dateisystem Gr=C3=B6=C3=9Fe Benut Verf Ben% Eingeh=C3=A4ngt= auf > /dev/sda1 36G 25G 9,1G 73% / > .... > ----paste end ----- >=20 > Circumstances and conditions:=20 > Ubuntu 10.04 lts server > SDA is a physical SATA connected drive=20 > Installation language de > Execution is done via ssh due to headless server system >=20 > If size (Gr=C3=B6=C3=9Fe) is 36GB and occupied space (Benut) is 25GB -g= uess- > remaining space (Verf) is below 10GB there must be a bug in calculatio= n > or in the way the first two values were derived from the system.=20 > If there would be a diff of +-1 digit nobody would think about but in > this case there is a mismatch in the msd (most signifikant digit)=20 >=20 > I would really appreciate feedback that the mail is recieved and if > there will be actions taken upon.=20 There can be less available space due to reservations for example. I think the specific issue here is that 5% of the / file system is reserved for the root user and thus is not included in the generally available count returned by the file system. cheers, P=C3=A1draig. ------------=_1338505861-27447-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 May 2012 22:50:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52405 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaECW-0006gX-9M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:50:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53257) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaDqU-00068K-1T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:28:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SaDoo-00057n-6m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:26:11 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, TO_NO_BRKTS_PCNT autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:35940) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SaDoo-00057N-3G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:26:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58989) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SaDom-0005vG-FH for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:26:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SaDok-00052s-Ls for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:26:07 -0400 Received: from mo-p00-ob.rzone.de ([81.169.146.161]:51663) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SaDok-0004yJ-G3 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:26:06 -0400 X-RZG-AUTH: :P3UXYUWlW+jDoBmqEKgwMdSrGKSCJOlb2u4JE4NPYzG38DxH0tdVBKbowHnmGg== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from gw.fritz.box (static-87-79-68-213.netcologne.de [87.79.68.213]) by smtp.strato.de (joses mo26) (RZmta 29.10 AUTH) with ESMTPA id t02290o4VJS0Ql for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:26:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw.fritz.box (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E732048C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:26:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at fritz.box Received: from gw.fritz.box ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gw.fritz.box [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Anr3K15UPLtU for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:26:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.12.200] (vdr-big.fritz.box [192.168.12.200]) by gw.fritz.box (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776C620048 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:26:01 +0200 (CEST) Subject: df calculus wrong? From: system To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: wody2001.de Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:26:01 +0200 Message-ID: <1338503161.3864.25.camel@vdr-big.fritz.box> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:50:39 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: system@wody2001.de List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Hello everybody, first of all let me say a big thank you -and all the others- for spending time and life donation to the GPL, FSF, .... world of Linux. I am not an developer but mathematics is one of my favs so how can the following explained? Command issued df -h response ----paste start ----- Dateisystem Größe Benut Verf Ben% Eingehängt auf /dev/sda1 36G 25G 9,1G 73% / .... ----paste end ----- Circumstances and conditions: Ubuntu 10.04 lts server SDA is a physical SATA connected drive Installation language de Execution is done via ssh due to headless server system If size (Größe) is 36GB and occupied space (Benut) is 25GB -guess- remaining space (Verf) is below 10GB there must be a bug in calculation or in the way the first two values were derived from the system. If there would be a diff of +-1 digit nobody would think about but in this case there is a mismatch in the msd (most signifikant digit) I would really appreciate feedback that the mail is recieved and if there will be actions taken upon. Sincerely Sterzenbach ------------=_1338505861-27447-1-- From unknown Mon Jun 23 18:34:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11597: df calculus wrong? Resent-From: Bob Proulx Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11597 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: system Cc: 11597@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11597-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11597.133850897131982 (code B ref 11597); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 00:03:01 +0000 Received: (at 11597) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2012 00:02:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52450 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaFKM-0008Jn-QK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 20:02:51 -0400 Received: from joseki.proulx.com ([216.17.153.58]:47906) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaFK1-0008JM-KK for 11597@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 20:02:48 -0400 Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B47211EE; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:00:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 558722DC57; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:00:51 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:00:51 -0600 From: Bob Proulx Message-ID: <20120601000051.GA29967@hysteria.proulx.com> References: <1338503161.3864.25.camel@vdr-big.fritz.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1338503161.3864.25.camel@vdr-big.fritz.box> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) system wrote: > I am not an developer but mathematics is one of my favs so how can the > following explained?=20 >=20 > Command issued=20 > df -h >=20 > response=20 > ----paste start ----- > Dateisystem Gr=F6=DFe Benut Verf Ben% Eingeh=E4ngt auf > /dev/sda1 36G 25G 9,1G 73% / As P=E1draig noted this is minfree at work. 36G * 0.95 =3D 34.20 25G / 34.2G =3D 73% Please see this reference for more information. http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/#df-Size-and-Used-and-Availab= le-do-not-add-up Bob From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 31 20:04:21 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2012 00:04:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52454 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaFLm-0008Lw-TY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 20:04:20 -0400 Received: from joseki.proulx.com ([216.17.153.58]:47914) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SaFLj-0008Ln-J4 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 May 2012 20:04:17 -0400 Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C19211EE for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:02:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E6C9F2DC57; Thu, 31 May 2012 18:02:37 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 18:02:37 -0600 From: Bob Proulx To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: update tags Message-ID: <20120601000237.GA32375@hysteria.proulx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) tag 11597 + notabug thanks