From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat May 26 15:51:11 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 May 2012 19:51:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44480 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SYN14-0005Qa-Kl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 May 2012 15:51:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45138) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SYN11-0005QN-Ub for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 May 2012 15:51:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SYMzp-0001nx-Nl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 May 2012 15:49:54 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:56559) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SYMzp-0001nr-KO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 May 2012 15:49:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50867) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SYMzo-0003xL-1A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 May 2012 15:49:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SYMzm-0001nf-5J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 May 2012 15:49:51 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:25133) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SYMzl-0001nW-Ue for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 May 2012 15:49:50 -0400 Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q4QJnkuL015074 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 19:49:47 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4QJnjxp009581 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 19:49:46 GMT Received: from abhmt116.oracle.com (abhmt116.oracle.com [141.146.116.68]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q4QJnjWT013137 for ; Sat, 26 May 2012 14:49:45 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.171.147) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 26 May 2012 12:49:45 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.0.97; doc string of command `dired-insert-subdir' Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 12:49:38 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac07eK7uRcirZAhbR+eMu7VJRZ76jw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) The doc string says (correctly): "With a prefix arg, you may edit the `ls' switches used for this listing. You can add `R' to the switches to expand the whole tree starting at this subdirectory." However, it seems like it should also mention that an error will be raised if the switches you specify are incompatible with the switches in the Dired buffer. But that begs the question of what those incompatibilities are. We should tell users in the doc string just what they cannot do, instead of making them discover this by trial and error. According to `dired-insert-subdir-validate' the incompatibilities are for `F' and `b': a Dired buffer cannot have listings with and without `F' or with and without `b'. This should be said in the doc string of `dired-insert-subdir'. In GNU Emacs 24.0.97.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-05-16 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 16 19:53:31 2012 Received: (at 11563) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2012 23:53:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37792 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDOeZ-0005xP-BA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:53:31 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:47412) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDOeX-0005xI-Gi for 11563@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:53:30 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q8GNqHI4002283 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <11563@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:52:18 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8GNqG8s019192 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <11563@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:52:17 GMT Received: from abhmt117.oracle.com (abhmt117.oracle.com [141.146.116.69]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q8GNqGNP006844 for <11563@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:52:16 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.170.142) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:52:16 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: <11563@debbugs.gnu.org> References: Subject: RE: bug#11563: 24.0.97; doc string of command `dired-insert-subdir' Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:52:04 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac07eK7uRcirZAhbR+eMu7VJRZ76jxY7ZJqQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11563 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) ping From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 08 23:09:24 2014 Received: (at 11563) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 04:09:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58759 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCLhs-00089v-Dg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 23:09:24 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:37340) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCLhq-00089o-R2 for 11563@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 23:09:23 -0500 Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCLhb-00053O-Vj; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 05:09:08 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#11563: 24.0.97; doc string of command `dired-insert-subdir' References: Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 20:07:57 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 26 May 2012 12:49:38 -0700") Message-ID: <87k3d5exnm.fsf@building.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCLhb-00053O-Vj X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392523748.67535@PajQfnAf/l9mA6cxPu1AMg X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11563 Cc: 11563@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" writes: > But that begs the question of what those incompatibilities are. We > should tell users in the doc string just what they cannot do, instead > of making them discover this by trial and error. > > According to `dired-insert-subdir-validate' the incompatibilities are > for `F' and `b': a Dired buffer cannot have listings with and without > `F' or with and without `b'. This should be said in the doc string of > `dired-insert-subdir'. Actually, I can't parse what "with and without `F' or with and without `b'" is supposed to mean, either... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 16 07:03:47 2021 Received: (at 11563) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2021 11:03:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50602 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m4LdC-0001DJ-Po for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 07:03:46 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39804) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m4LdA-0001D1-3w for 11563@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 07:03:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=NW+ZYYZHpXShxOXIJ/5YRlX9A9nv3M6Wsx8+inwcWDQ=; b=tQmE6phjgZQX66CoDHjkasfDu2 ZX/B9g2D0sk32f+ctWlZYWz2eCQSGUMZga5EdqlyHcq/8h/PmJ5+Gl1B1OyVyWIXXGv/zoJ1Bp9Sf eQmc4YVQXUWGfeA8YjmMcEXeu0mzm+PMcqXKflGihf/GcSschPR7cUXkTUPi79wbX/AM=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m4Ld1-0003W2-6Q; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 13:03:37 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#11563: 24.0.97; doc string of command `dired-insert-subdir' References: X-Now-Playing: Charli XCX's _Pop 2_: "I Got It (feat. Brooke Candy, CupcakKe and Pabllo Vittar)" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 13:03:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 26 May 2012 12:49:38 -0700") Message-ID: <87k0lqbjw9.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "Drew Adams" writes: > According to `dired-insert-subdir-validate' the incompatibilities are > for `F' and `b': a Dired buffer cannot have listings with and without > `F' or with and without `b'. This should be said in th [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11563 Cc: 11563@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) "Drew Adams" writes: > According to `dired-insert-subdir-validate' the incompatibilities are > for `F' and `b': a Dired buffer cannot have listings with and without > `F' or with and without `b'. This should be said in the doc string of > `dired-insert-subdir'. No, I think it's sufficient that the user gets an error when inserting the sub-dir. What switches are incompatible is an implementation detail, and may change over time. 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