From unknown Mon Sep 08 20:52:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11523: 24.0.97; doc string too wide: `transient-mark-mode' Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 22:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 11523 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 11523@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133746608426564 (code B ref -1); Sat, 19 May 2012 22:22:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2012 22:21:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34768 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs1b-0006uO-4v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:21:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44121) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs1H-0006tV-5e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:21:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs0h-000118-Rh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:20:29 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:56321) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs0h-000113-OS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:20:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54779) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs0e-0000oI-Vm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:20:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs0d-00010R-6R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:20:24 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:22798) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs0d-00010G-07 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:20:23 -0400 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q4JMKHxj025987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 19 May 2012 22:20:18 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4JMKGdO020814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 19 May 2012 22:20:17 GMT Received: from abhmt119.oracle.com (abhmt119.oracle.com [141.146.116.71]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q4JMKGMh023545 for ; Sat, 19 May 2012 17:20:16 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.216.57) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 19 May 2012 15:20:16 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 15:20:09 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac02DYzha4HRhHoGS2u/4HqT83moLA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) With t-m mode turned on by default, every `C-h m' shows it, and its extra-wide line stands out (and interferes with fitting a frame to the buffer text). Here is the offender: "Many commands change their behavior when Transient Mark mode is in effect and the mark is active, by acting on the region instead of their usual default part of the buffer's text. Examples of such commands include M-;, M-x flush-lines, M-x keep-lines, M-x query-replace, C-M-%, M-x ispell, and C-x u. Invoke C-h d and type "transient" or "mark.*active" at the prompt, to see the documentation of commands which are sensitive to the Transient Mark mode." Not to mention that the sentence is incorrect. `M-;', `C-M-%', and `C-x u' are key sequences, not commands. And the others (`M-x ...') are not commands either. And then there's the line that follows the long one, which is too short: "Invoke C-h d and type "transient" or" In GNU Emacs 24.0.97.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-05-16 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include' From unknown Mon Sep 08 20:52:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11523: 24.0.97; doc string too wide: `transient-mark-mode' Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11523 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: <11523@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 11523-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11523.134783968823034 (code B ref 11523); Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:55:02 +0000 Received: (at 11523) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2012 23:54:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37799 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDOfn-0005zS-Ko for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:54:47 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:47579) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TDOfl-0005zM-Tt for 11523@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:54:46 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q8GNrXBO002804 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <11523@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:53:34 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8GNrXGf024339 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <11523@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 23:53:33 GMT Received: from abhmt113.oracle.com (abhmt113.oracle.com [141.146.116.65]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q8GNrXu0007315 for <11523@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:53:33 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.170.142) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:53:32 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:53:22 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac02DYzha4HRhHoGS2u/4HqT83moLBeWOQQg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -7.4 (-------) ping From unknown Mon Sep 08 20:52:11 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: "Drew Adams" Subject: bug#11523: closed (Re: bug#11523: 24.0.97; doc string too wide: `transient-mark-mode') Message-ID: References: <87vccqtcx7.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 11523 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 11523@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 07:19:01 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1354087141-30771-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1354087141-30771-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #11523: 24.0.97; doc string too wide: `transient-mark-mode' which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 11523@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 11523: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D11523 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1354087141-30771-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 11523-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2012 07:18:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42509 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tdbup-0007zg-2U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:18:39 -0500 Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com ([209.85.160.44]:33949) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tdbun-0007zY-9R for 11523-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Nov 2012 02:18:38 -0500 Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id uo1so9021625pbc.3 for <11523-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:16:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=oPelLAwcN8KbhpcVreN/65ITgRLe9QSlJILDWnCMAkI=; b=JtpqLGTXpg5W8Ggg8e/jcNEYhRXso0jLn0wA3hFibNgeXNjfyrI0aKRLWoH8qPa2PJ c3lPullC1qFFLWpXYvpo3pJyHMQB5Es2biTuLF7hr/YZSquFhhZRl/BXI90dc9wCHHgv mdt9o3bXjIXUkb0/K0dn5gKWpI0QfoeZWWgakuokpZR+i48If8prAo2acTrOmGC6TWmp 6YIyTSbxhRuKi1aG+MzCCXDA4pOEIxh7smPT+zZiB8Fhqk5ztZhonLugx/TSG8bS8nGW Bn2HOptSojfqP4QS5C6EOQKcpf41u5QXub/gn+Zh7subp5HhcCThMLVWtTfIDqUiBeg2 rFfg== Received: by 10.68.217.137 with SMTP id oy9mr55916155pbc.50.1354087003924; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ulysses ([155.69.18.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vi9sm11997409pbc.41.2012.11.27.23.16.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:16:41 -0800 (PST) From: Chong Yidong To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#11523: 24.0.97; doc string too wide: `transient-mark-mode' References: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:16:36 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 19 May 2012 15:20:09 -0700") Message-ID: <87vccqtcx7.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11523-done Cc: 11523-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) "Drew Adams" writes: > With t-m mode turned on by default, every `C-h m' shows it, and its > extra-wide line stands out (and interferes with fitting a frame to the > buffer text). Fixed, thanks. ------------=_1354087141-30771-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2012 22:21:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34768 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs1b-0006uO-4v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:21:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44121) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs1H-0006tV-5e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:21:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs0h-000118-Rh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:20:29 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:56321) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs0h-000113-OS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:20:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54779) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs0e-0000oI-Vm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:20:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs0d-00010R-6R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:20:24 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:22798) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVs0d-00010G-07 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 May 2012 18:20:23 -0400 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q4JMKHxj025987 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 19 May 2012 22:20:18 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4JMKGdO020814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 19 May 2012 22:20:17 GMT Received: from abhmt119.oracle.com (abhmt119.oracle.com [141.146.116.71]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q4JMKGMh023545 for ; Sat, 19 May 2012 17:20:16 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.216.57) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 19 May 2012 15:20:16 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.0.97; doc string too wide: `transient-mark-mode' Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 15:20:09 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac02DYzha4HRhHoGS2u/4HqT83moLA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) With t-m mode turned on by default, every `C-h m' shows it, and its extra-wide line stands out (and interferes with fitting a frame to the buffer text). Here is the offender: "Many commands change their behavior when Transient Mark mode is in effect and the mark is active, by acting on the region instead of their usual default part of the buffer's text. Examples of such commands include M-;, M-x flush-lines, M-x keep-lines, M-x query-replace, C-M-%, M-x ispell, and C-x u. Invoke C-h d and type "transient" or "mark.*active" at the prompt, to see the documentation of commands which are sensitive to the Transient Mark mode." Not to mention that the sentence is incorrect. `M-;', `C-M-%', and `C-x u' are key sequences, not commands. And the others (`M-x ...') are not commands either. And then there's the line that follows the long one, which is too short: "Invoke C-h d and type "transient" or" In GNU Emacs 24.0.97.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-05-16 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include' ------------=_1354087141-30771-1--