From unknown Sat Aug 16 19:16:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11506: 24.1.50; "C-x z" ("repeat") no longer works correctly with M-x Resent-From: Miles Bader Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 07:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 11506 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 11506@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133732500027839 (code B ref -1); Fri, 18 May 2012 07:10:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2012 07:10:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60056 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHK3-0007Eo-K9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50461) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHK0-0007Av-Uz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHJa-0002o5-R7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:32 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:42493) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHJa-0002nt-Nx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35203) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHJZ-0003Vn-0T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHJW-0002n9-Mn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:28 -0400 Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:44591) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHJW-0002mY-7J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:26 -0400 Received: from 218.231.234.39.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.234.39] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHJT-000425-Oz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 16:09:23 +0900 Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A1671E006; Fri, 18 May 2012 16:09:22 +0900 (JST) From: Miles Bader Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:09:22 +0900 Message-ID: <87wr4a6k4d.fsf@catnip.gol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) It used to be (up until fairly recently, dunno the exact point at which it changed) that "C-x z" would correctly repeat the previous extended command; e.g. if you entered "M-x pwd RET", and then "C-x z", the latter would re-invoke "pwd". This was very useful. Now it no longer does this -- instead it just repeats "M-x", prompting for a command. This is obviously far less useful behavior... To repeat: emacs -Q M-x pwd RET C-x z You will just get the M-x prompt; in older versions, it would print the output of "pwd" again. Thanks, -Miles In GNU Emacs 24.1.50.6 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2012-05-17 on catnip Configured using: `configure '--without-rsvg'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: ESC x r e p o r t - e m SPC b u g RET Recent messages: ("emacs") Loading term/xterm...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Load-path shadows: None found. 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At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 30 15:10:26 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 May 2012 19:10:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50753 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZoHp-0001tm-5N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:10:26 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36524 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SZoHm-0001td-Pi for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:10:23 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SZoGK-00018b-2V for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 May 2012 15:08:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:08:52 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 11506 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) forwarded 11506 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2012-05/msg00380.html From unknown Sat Aug 16 19:16:11 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Miles Bader Subject: bug#11506: closed (Re: bug: "C-x z" ("repeat") no longer works correctly with M-x) Message-ID: References: <87wr4a6k4d.fsf@catnip.gol.com> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 11506 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 11506@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:24:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1338665042-11348-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1338665042-11348-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #11506: 24.1.50; "C-x z" ("repeat") no longer works correctly with M-x which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 11506@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 11506: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D11506 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1338665042-11348-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 11506-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2012 19:23:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54899 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SatvP-0002wZ-79 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:23:47 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:27189) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SatvN-0002wM-4b for 11506-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:23:45 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAG6Zu09sr+UI/2dsb2JhbABEtBGBCIIVAQEEAVYjBQsLDiYSFBgNJIgcBboJkEQDozOBWIMF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="187049938" Received: from 108-175-229-8.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.175.229.8]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 02 Jun 2012 15:21:51 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8C5B859607; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 15:21:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Chong Yidong Subject: Re: bug: "C-x z" ("repeat") no longer works correctly with M-x Message-ID: References: <87396ylx5m.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87pq9ndq0n.fsf@gnu.org> <8762ba8b6p.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:21:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8762ba8b6p.fsf@gnu.org> (Chong Yidong's message of "Sat, 02 Jun 2012 14:44:46 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11506-done Cc: 11506-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > The problem is that the old execute-extended-command sets the > real_this_command internal variable, which causes the Emacs command loop > to record the command that was actually executed into real-last-command > and last-repeatable-command. Indeed. > In other words, it's not just the fact that `C-x z' doesn't work > properly. Moving execute-extended-command to Lisp produces a > backward-incompatible change in the values of the real-last-command and > last-repeatable-command variables for M-x. I suspect this may break > things other than `C-x z'. I guess we could fix this by exposing > real_this_command to Lisp too, but that kinda defeats the point of that > variable... I don't see why this would defeat anything. Clearly, execute-extended-command demonstrates that there can be very good reasons to change real-this-command. I installed a change that does just that. > Is there a strong rationale for moving execute-extended-command to Lisp, > other than the general principle that we want as much functionality > implemented Lisp as possible? To me, an important part of moving code to Elisp is to make sure that it *can* be implemented in Elisp (i.e. that some third-party package can provide a new implementation of that functionality). Stefan ------------=_1338665042-11348-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2012 07:10:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60056 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHK3-0007Eo-K9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50461) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHK0-0007Av-Uz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHJa-0002o5-R7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:32 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:42493) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHJa-0002nt-Nx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35203) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHJZ-0003Vn-0T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHJW-0002n9-Mn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:28 -0400 Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:44591) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHJW-0002mY-7J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 03:09:26 -0400 Received: from 218.231.234.39.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.234.39] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) (envelope-from ) id 1SVHJT-000425-Oz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 16:09:23 +0900 Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A1671E006; Fri, 18 May 2012 16:09:22 +0900 (JST) From: Miles Bader To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.1.50; "C-x z" ("repeat") no longer works correctly with M-x Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:09:22 +0900 Message-ID: <87wr4a6k4d.fsf@catnip.gol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) It used to be (up until fairly recently, dunno the exact point at which it changed) that "C-x z" would correctly repeat the previous extended command; e.g. if you entered "M-x pwd RET", and then "C-x z", the latter would re-invoke "pwd". This was very useful. Now it no longer does this -- instead it just repeats "M-x", prompting for a command. This is obviously far less useful behavior... To repeat: emacs -Q M-x pwd RET C-x z You will just get the M-x prompt; in older versions, it would print the output of "pwd" again. Thanks, -Miles In GNU Emacs 24.1.50.6 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2012-05-17 on catnip Configured using: `configure '--without-rsvg'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: ESC x r e p o r t - e m SPC b u g RET Recent messages: ("emacs") Loading term/xterm...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort gnus-util mail-extr emacsbug message format-spec rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel x-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list newcomment lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty emacs) -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche ------------=_1338665042-11348-1-- From unknown Sat Aug 16 19:16:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11506: bug: "C-x z" ("repeat") no longer works correctly with M-x Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11506 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Cc: 11506-done@debbugs.gnu.org, 'Chong Yidong' , 11506@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11506-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11506.133881780916025 (code B ref 11506); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:51:02 +0000 Received: (at 11506) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2012 13:50:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56911 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SbXfc-0004AP-V1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:50:09 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:50823) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SbXfa-00049o-Oo; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:50:07 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q54Dm2Ox027136 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:48:03 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q54Dm2C2007500 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:48:02 GMT Received: from abhmt118.oracle.com (abhmt118.oracle.com [141.146.116.70]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q54Dm1PS018336; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:48:01 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.218.251) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:48:01 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: <87396ylx5m.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87pq9ndq0n.fsf@gnu.org><8762ba8b6p.fsf@gnu.org> <4DDFBCA4D529431F922887DF34538295@us.oracle.com><702924CEED3B405D81D118DDE532C97F@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:47:46 -0700 Message-ID: <0359C772AE3B4139B5F5C59DC160D56F@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac1BnGBNiEUVBm02ThyH9+MX2olsdgAADHmQAC5XUbA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Is there a problem with the automatic mailing of bug-thread messages, or is there perhaps a problem with my mail server? I sent two messages to this bug thread, and never received those mails from the bug list. But they showed up on the archive site OK: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11506#15 http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11506#17 Similarly, I received Stefan's reply to the first of these directly from him, but I did not receive his message from the bug address. If there is a mail problem at the Emacs BUGS end, is it perhaps only for the -done@debbugs.gnu.org address? If so, can that please be fixed? Whatever discussion continues in a bug thread should be echoed to the bug mailing list, no? If not, I will no doubt have to manually remove "-done" from the cc address from now on (or else add the address without "-done", in addition to "-done"). Users do not pay a lot of attention to the cc addresses when they hit `Reply All'. This bug server automatically changes the address from @debbugs.gnu.org to -done@debbugs.gnu.org, which is arguably not very user friendly to begin with (changing recipient lists is not a great idea). If we cannot figure out a better way to handle routing/classifying messages than simply changing addresses, too bad. But can't we at least continue to echo the discussion to @debbugs.gnu.org (as well as cc or bcc it to -done@debbugs.gnu.org), so that readers of the thread receive the message? The classification of a bug is not the same thing as the end of the discussion of it.