From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 15 22:34:46 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2012 02:34:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56846 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SUU4b-0006cJ-GC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2012 22:34:46 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:41582 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SUU4Y-0006cB-MR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 May 2012 22:34:43 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SUU4Q-00085k-QT; Tue, 15 May 2012 22:34:34 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: In configure.in, gl_EARLY is too early? X-Spook: Putin embassy government CDMA satellite imagery X-Ran: +$+0iQZ5}q?h~[&erv!!UtT$>%PM);b?iR=U&%T,}Q|~(5;@joFzp%):AUhEnZ00l#E^|\ X-Hue: white X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 22:34:34 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) Package: emacs Version: 24.0.96 Severity: important configure.in contains the equivalent of this (abridged): ## On several platforms: NON_GNU_CPP= # Initialize gnulib right after verifying that the C compiler works. gl_EARLY [...] ## If no CPP was specified, do something for Sun compilers. if [...] && test x"$CPP" = x; then [do stuff] [...] ## If NON_GNU_CPP was set and CPP was not, set CPP to NON_GNU_CPP. if test "x$NON_GNU_CPP" != x && test x$GCC != xyes && test "x$CPP" = x then CPP="$NON_GNU_CPP" fi [...] AC_PROG_CPP The CPP tests all predate the use of Gnulib. What gl_EARLY does is opaque, but by inspection of configure one thing it ends up doing is calling AC_PROG_CPP and so setting $CPP much earlier than the rest of configure.in expects. IIUC, this will prevent all the pre-existing code related to changing CPP from having any effect; because it all tests if CPP was already set, and if so does nothing. It was expecting that CPP could only have been set by the user at this stage; however now gnulib is going to make it always be set. Moving gl_EARLY later in configure.in (to just before the check for -Wdeclaration-after-statement) would presumably restore the behaviour of Emacs 23 and earlier. However, all previous pretesting for Emacs 24 has used the other behaviour, so I do not know if it is too late to change this. It affects the less common platforms, which might not have seen much testing. One example is using a Sun compiler on Solaris. The intent of configure was to add -Xs to the CPP options. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 16 04:01:19 2012 Received: (at 11485) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2012 08:01:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57017 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SUZAb-0008KA-PG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2012 04:01:18 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:45977) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SUZAG-0008JK-9r for 11485@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2012 04:01:15 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3Vsp3t0n36z4KLl6; Wed, 16 May 2012 10:00:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-108-175.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.108.175]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3Vsp3p4B9bz4KK9v; Wed, 16 May 2012 10:00:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 341E8CA2A3; Wed, 16 May 2012 10:00:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#11485: In configure.in, gl_EARLY is too early? References: X-Yow: This MUST be a good party -- My RIB CAGE is being painfully pressed up against someone's MARTINI!! Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 10:00:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 15 May 2012 22:34:34 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.96 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11485 Cc: 11485@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Isn't the CPP dance obsolete now that we no longer preprocess makefiles? Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 16 05:10:31 2012 Received: (at 11485) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2012 09:10:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57068 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SUaFa-0001Vc-So for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2012 05:10:31 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:38722) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SUaFY-0001VP-0v for 11485@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2012 05:10:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E29CA60002 for <11485@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 16 May 2012 02:10:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uA9DaNE1bm0U for <11485@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 16 May 2012 02:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3854F39E800A for <11485@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 16 May 2012 02:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FB36EF7.5060003@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 02:10:15 -0700 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120430 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 11485@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#11485: In configure.in, gl_EARLY is too early? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11485 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Andreas is right that CPP is no longer needed. I have removed that stuff from the trunk in bzr 108252. In the trunk, I also moved gl_EARLY to the place where Glenn suggested, as that makes sense. If gl_EARLY overrides the other CPP stuff in emacs-24, that shouldn't harm emacs-24, since we don't care what CPP is. However, if gl_EARLY overrides the other CC stuff that might be a problem. This would affect two platforms: Apple Darwin / Maco OS X (where emacs-24 currently adds -I/sw/include and -L/sw/lib) and Iris 4D (where it adds -D_LANGUAGE_C). So it might make sense in the emacs-24 trunk to move gl_EARLY as Glenn suggests, if only because of these two issues. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 16 12:21:31 2012 Received: (at 11485) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2012 16:21:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57922 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SUgyh-0003un-AI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2012 12:21:31 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:34453 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SUgyf-0003uf-JC for 11485@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 May 2012 12:21:30 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SUgyT-0007Wx-Sw; Wed, 16 May 2012 12:21:17 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Andreas Schwab Subject: Re: bug#11485: In configure.in, gl_EARLY is too early? References: X-Spook: MILSATCOM anthrax Bletchley Park bullion Firewalls Plame X-Ran: {27Vknv?SYL8f>4"k='-J`iY:Xs~q|$73qG-z4l$!lKP,DL~/xpGrRHf2=By;]xHN]G.`y X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 12:21:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Wed, 16 May 2012 10:00:38 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11485 Cc: 11485@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Andreas Schwab wrote: > Isn't the CPP dance obsolete now that we no longer preprocess makefiles? Maybe. Doesn't it affect some of the later tests that configure runs? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu May 17 13:34:56 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2012 17:34:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59576 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SV4bI-0003y9-3H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2012 13:34:56 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:41596 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SV4bG-0003y2-7B for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2012 13:34:54 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SV4az-0005jk-IO for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 May 2012 13:34:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 13:34:37 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 11485 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) fixed 11485 24.2 found 11485 24.0.97 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 18 12:34:30 2012 Received: (at 11485) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2012 16:34:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32990 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SVQ8M-0005y5-2P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 12:34:30 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:37280 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SVQ8J-0005xy-OU for 11485@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 May 2012 12:34:28 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SVQ7x-0008Bq-2o; Fri, 18 May 2012 12:34:05 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Andreas Schwab Subject: Re: bug#11485: In configure.in, gl_EARLY is too early? References: X-Spook: Putin Commecen INS wire transfer smuggle NSA explosion X-Ran: nW;--Md5SmQKU'vCYi(JpEmv7SAguR`To/6-P]-_:-3Qcux^i`F(@5:p)/rDd{fFHRte?b X-Hue: cyan X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 12:34:04 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11485 Cc: 11485@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) >> Isn't the CPP dance obsolete now that we no longer preprocess makefiles? > > Maybe. Doesn't it affect some of the later tests that configure runs? If it doesn't affect anything, why is configure testing for CPP at all... From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 16 21:56:20 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2012 01:56:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34387 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T2BnP-0008H4-K0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:56:20 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:52265) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T2BnO-0008Gy-Hf for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:56:19 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1T2Ben-0005R2-Pj for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:47:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:47:25 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 11485 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) fixed 11485 24.3 notfixed 11485 24.2 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 03 14:35:55 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Nov 2012 18:35:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47475 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TUiZX-0006qE-CY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 14:35:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:40529) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TUiZV-0006q7-NW for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 14:35:54 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TUiWg-0005Xi-59 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2012 14:32:58 -0400 Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 14:32:58 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 11485 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) close 11485 24.3 From unknown Tue Jun 24 13:56:42 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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