From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 22 20:51:03 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Apr 2012 00:51:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47387 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SM7Uc-0008Qz-NQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:51:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60420) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SM7Ub-0008QX-4m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:51:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SM7Tr-0005B1-97 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:50:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:49017) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SM7Tr-0005Ag-6n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:50:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41514) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SM7To-0002bH-Nl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:50:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SM7Tm-00056B-KX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:50:12 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:30688) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SM7Tm-000521-De for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 20:50:10 -0400 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q3N0o32A012170 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:50:05 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q3N0o2dG017957 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:50:03 GMT Received: from abhmt103.oracle.com (abhmt103.oracle.com [141.146.116.55]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q3N0o2ub021482 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:50:02 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.170.90) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:50:02 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.1.50; Bind to `backward-kill-sexp' in Lisp modes - like it used to be Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:49:50 -0700 Message-ID: <2CB186B33EC146018ED50123D6EA636B@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac0g6v0LNtaVHU/5Q4eobi/lA/u4YQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Wow. I've had this for so long in my setup that I forgot that this was removed from vanilla Emacs in Emacs 22. It was always present in older Emacs releases, and it makes sense (IMO). Please restore the binding of to `backward-kill-sexp' in the Lisp modes, so others can benefit from it by default. This seems to have been a mistake, rather than a deliberate change - or else it was perversely deliberate. `backward-kill-sexp' IS bound to ESC , but it is not bound to . What's that about? It is also bound to ESC , but not to . Yes, some systems like Windows (which I use) will not let you use . But that is no reason not to bind it in Emacs for people who can use it. (Actually, I would probably argue that ESC and should both kill a sexp forward, not backward, i.e., `kill-sexp'. The key generally kills forward, in Emacs, as in other apps. But I don't really care about that. And you'd probably argue that `C-M-k' would then also be forward, by analogy with `C-k', or some such.) In GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-04-19 on MARVIN Bzr revision: 107968 monnier@iro.umontreal.ca-20120419220225-gijdcbfxuiqy5dhb Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.13.1-1-dev/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8/include/libxml2' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 22 22:06:38 2012 Received: (at 11313) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Apr 2012 02:06:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47445 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SM8fm-0001fL-19 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 22:06:38 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:46268 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SM8fi-0001fC-5I for 11313@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 22:06:34 -0400 Received: from bb116-14-12-6.singnet.com.sg ([116.14.12.6]:42896 helo=ulysses) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SM8f3-0003yR-69; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 22:05:53 -0400 From: Chong Yidong To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#11313: 24.1.50; Bind to `backward-kill-sexp' in Lisp modes - like it used to be References: <2CB186B33EC146018ED50123D6EA636B@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 10:05:46 +0800 In-Reply-To: <2CB186B33EC146018ED50123D6EA636B@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:49:50 -0700") Message-ID: <8762crnqx1.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.95 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11313 Cc: 11313@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) "Drew Adams" writes: > Wow. I've had this for so long in my setup that I forgot that this was > removed from vanilla Emacs in Emacs 22. It was always present in older > Emacs releases, and it makes sense (IMO). Please restore the binding of > to `backward-kill-sexp' in the Lisp modes, so others can > benefit from it by default. See NEWS.22: ** The old bindings C-M-delete and C-M-backspace have been deleted, since there are situations where one or the other will shut down the operating system or your X server. Closing this non-bug. 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