From unknown Tue Jun 17 20:10:53 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#11248 <11248@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#11248 <11248@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Problems with article search Keys in Summary Reply-To: bug#11248 <11248@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 03:10:53 +0000 retitle 11248 Problems with article search Keys in Summary reassign 11248 gnus submitter 11248 Michael Heerdegen severity 11248 normal tag 11248 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 15 14:50:55 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Apr 2012 18:50:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59910 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SJUXH-00004y-B7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:50:55 -0400 Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242]:58644) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SJUXD-0008WV-EX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:50:52 -0400 Received: from moweb001.kundenserver.de (moweb001.kundenserver.de [172.19.20.114]) by fmmailgate04.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919E675FC645 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 20:49:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dragon.dragon ([88.67.107.46]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb001) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0McFgl-1SbRQw31xH-00Jbya; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 20:49:19 +0200 From: Michael Heerdegen To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: Problems with article search Keys in Summary X-Debbugs-Version: 5.13 X-Debbugs-Package: gnus Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 20:55:41 +0200 Message-ID: <86obqseseq.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:wmJgi3avBRhEc45ZitBXgiQepzghrih6OJMnnQVT2dI RPv+2VtR/OY8VmMF9rS3J6dOXuw6OkrBJdzPZwSQTfY3xzIW3A 85GixLIbYs7pRRiqMgQuh9hIq+VdMRJxnqZE3A6s/QPHU/Wx6d Ltln+JkvuPmodmJNuuc4LzIhswV/HlNn6CU9n9lH8TcKd5MQ5O cYV0+NJrHfd7mzdIkNNpMVVQhSz0Sdj+WfrAs3ASPA= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Hi, These are the article search key bindings in `gnus-summary-mode-map': "\M-s" gnus-summary-search-article-forward "\M-r" gnus-summary-search-article-backward "\M-S" gnus-summary-repeat-search-article-forward "\M-R" gnus-summary-repeat-search-article-backward I want to make the proposal to move the first two to something different, maybe C-S and C-R. Background: M-s is already a prefix key in the global-map in modern Emacsen. The binding of M-s in `gnus-summary-mode-map' shadows it. But it becomes worse: If a minor-mode (like icicles-mode indeed does) adds bindings to the M-s prefix in its minor-mode-map, the minor mode binding shadows M-s in the gnus-summary-mode-map, so that `gnus-summary-search-article-forward' is unreachable with keys! You have to call it with M-x. Bad. Regards, Michael. Gnus v5.13 GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.2.3) of 2012-04-10 on zelenka, modified by Debian 201 news.cambrium.nl NNRP Service Ready (no posting). 500 What? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 05 13:23:24 2012 Received: (at 11248) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2012 17:23:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40768 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9JJz-00067u-Nm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 13:23:24 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:55786) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9JJw-00067Z-N0 for 11248@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 13:23:21 -0400 Received: from ip-200-13-149-91.dialup.ice.net ([91.149.13.200] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1T9JJh-0001Hw-Ds; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:23:06 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#11248: Problems with article search Keys in Summary References: <86obqseseq.fsf@web.de> X-Now-Playing: Isotope 217's _The Unstable Molecule_ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:23:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86obqseseq.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 15 Apr 2012 20:55:41 +0200") Message-ID: <87a9x4wfii.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1T9JJh-0001Hw-Ds X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1347470586.50159@zlD237Xl0mtg3EfZTRnU8g X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11248 Cc: 11248@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: > These are the article search key bindings in `gnus-summary-mode-map': > > "\M-s" gnus-summary-search-article-forward > "\M-r" gnus-summary-search-article-backward > "\M-S" gnus-summary-repeat-search-article-forward > "\M-R" gnus-summary-repeat-search-article-backward > > I want to make the proposal to move the first two to something > different, maybe C-S and C-R. `C-s' is a very useful command. None of the commands under `M-s' seem particularly useful in the summary buffer. > But it becomes worse: If a minor-mode (like icicles-mode indeed does) > adds bindings to the M-s prefix in its minor-mode-map, the minor > mode binding shadows M-s in the gnus-summary-mode-map, so that > `gnus-summary-search-article-forward' is unreachable with keys! You > have to call it with M-x. Bad. Are there any icicles-mode commands that are useful in the summary buffer? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 07 15:13:58 2012 Received: (at 11248) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2012 19:13:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47112 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TA403-000701-1u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:13:58 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.4]:53102) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TA3zy-0006zs-52 for 11248@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:13:54 -0400 Received: from snow.dragon ([89.204.137.6]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M40zy-1TRBAg3DNK-00rHgD; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:13:29 +0200 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#11248: Problems with article search Keys in Summary In-Reply-To: <87a9x4wfii.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:23:01 +0200") Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:35:10 +0200 References: <86obqseseq.fsf@web.de> <87a9x4wfii.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]) by mx-ha.web.de (mxweb104) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LoWGc-1TlULs1Ip0-00gp9F for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:32:54 +0200 Received: from snow.dragon ([82.113.99.148]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MPpE6-1TEdVL12w6-005Bq3; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:32:54 +0200 X-UI-Filterresults: ;V01:K0:iotOP/Qn:a/8+7N84eXhCbNpnycIMgS1kDePbQ/wMIS1 gjbvbTpgaeu72s0ygYGWVODmq3AhFR2VxvNQbqPI2pKSWB1Q7i5PJY/+4bxgZck7t/ZFIVA 4f//Qp1Lyjdy+uoV5kFoRAp8gBSfXNLsn0UiAzfMXNg0/2MEipUB/bboWVIiVuHEhlhzwiX bEAKOFGtnfmZPh8ms9h3nXbKVUxG5gvtvDqlm2geCw6LoTy3H5pN8zrbh4px69uUKRRvLqI hAC8O1a1Rg3RluUI2Nu3aPa6xm7PuazdGK2CDLHg1tqXaofQTgEpR7sz312ATErypwnplgz 8D+o3otgLcScAc/cJn9yIb36GrIm9wDesZOrxQlmgIJdkUt/z1OQQ0Nxc+RACXkOyfhndF1 nUdT32BhN7ja4XlXf4FOkklqtr//iXI6iZ+38f9wwnInQEsPRvWAK9q6l6Xpp7gKojpmTTh /Rxf+a446dfoITrjQ+qXhVAPT39jkbiP/ze17eRG36Tr0LMB3kpIo0VfepMpOCiTq6f7klx buxencNSpj8/hHfWbPPaAEMQD1+VHGRkRki2av+wj503/jsLStmzU+HlCQMiT0qDoY2RJIj Vd4ezps7XPZZ6ZNANhgXOJO6MnVSpIKXnER/PKhtQoRcMtJvPVek4RtDWx4QEcPJf+lyZRh 0tF0MylfGk6eBailKkdMNImyY3BqA1kujCmNRktNKKX5XZf4P1bA8yZ6G0bUEVWBhxwTk55 WNviiFdrnYDUBrfEsenEncXgZZ1Sr+8JcOxVosjXZVDCnDCQ6JTlPgv/j1aZ4bnK8BEdjoX HKBtyA3c7+xUFxKbVgosrcTbg73ywpVgn+rez41FHAXYUo+r7VzJX2sqkLlrIQV0GfmBTVa YQaP24JAZrtDxE9E/sgXxea0rlarUwItupV1zdsHULfSU+ABt6hVZ8cLRVKC/VxMzzZvfPi urYKbWHJeEDvaStJxsyM5gS2TRULd2GL0RMKXttm1ln3j4+tXdUPncbf9YFYi6Ne7PsoH+w OHsBMDfUSj5RDHG1CajaLM5Nz9n74wqvFZsGHQQG8lGeq1+1vJR4NzuWZPe/JZy76Uk9hDr dZqJdVZia/MhH/+49B7WjncBn8Lh/5c2kyF9K0FsrDCsJ21lLxD+iJx3ZWlTSnF668Oz+X1 nqZ0et/inxzfKOvEiFX2isZM= Message-ID: <87k3w51w5z.fsf@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:x82aQlx7FX57G3Zmo5iMPkcnEigVSduOZMcsJn348IM F3Nqey5le9ymp4afSh4Egvwx8A1WYXY7T5CnvVpOFnB91QIFxL Ykfuq8Q112HJqqjOVFfUusjcVmeDUPlSK8GZ3fLnqlCp6U4t7/ opy+rbwBnhXzk8NA4YmZMJ/ZvTuRV2yJDq6KxU2wC2AwEm8TZ9 NtRjZPcJWyqfq9oIlaAm2/MFDqdH+ffHhu8Z6vJnm0= X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11248 Cc: 11248@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Michael Heerdegen writes: > > > These are the article search key bindings in `gnus-summary-mode-map': > > > > "\M-s" gnus-summary-search-article-forward > > "\M-r" gnus-summary-search-article-backward > > "\M-S" gnus-summary-repeat-search-article-forward > > "\M-R" gnus-summary-repeat-search-article-backward > > > > I want to make the proposal to move the first two to something > > different, maybe C-S and C-R. > > `C-s' is a very useful command. I don't understand how `C-s' is involved here. I meant C-S, meaning C-S-s. > None of the commands under `M-s' seem particularly useful in the > summary buffer. Right. > > But it becomes worse: If a minor-mode (like icicles-mode indeed does) > > adds bindings to the M-s prefix in its minor-mode-map, the minor > > mode binding shadows M-s in the gnus-summary-mode-map, so that > > `gnus-summary-search-article-forward' is unreachable with keys! You > > have to call it with M-x. Bad. > > Are there any icicles-mode commands that are useful in the summary > buffer? Icicles uses M-s M-s as a prefix for all its several search commands - no doubt some of them could indeed be useful in the summary buffer, e.g. M-s M-s l (`icicle-search-lines') or M-s M-s M-s (`icicle-search-generic'). But that's not my point. There are lots of people that use both Gnus and Icicles. And for all of them, currently `gnus-summary-search-article-forward' is by default not reachable by any key in the summary buffer, and thus e.g. not "discoverable" with C-h b or C-h w. Of course I'm open to other suggestions than mine, but IMHO this binding conflict should be solved in one way or another. Thanks, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 25 11:58:59 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2012 16:58:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59410 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnXqF-0007y2-6w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 11:58:59 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:59308) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnXqD-0007xu-2e for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 11:58:57 -0500 Received: from ip-90-20-179-93.dialup.ice.net ([93.179.20.90] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnXpV-0004e6-Nn for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:58:14 +0100 Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:58:11 +0100 Message-Id: <87k3s65asc.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #11248 X-MailScanner-ID: 1TnXpV-0004e6-Nn X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1357059494.20228@SRSie6C7A5LO8+xee6OC2A X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) tags 11248 notabug close 11248 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 25 11:59:06 2012 Received: (at 11248) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2012 16:59:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59412 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnXqI-0007yQ-Mh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 11:59:06 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:59307) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnXqD-0007xt-2b for 11248@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 11:59:02 -0500 Received: from ip-90-20-179-93.dialup.ice.net ([93.179.20.90] helo=rusty) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnXpP-0004dr-D7; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:58:08 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#11248: Problems with article search Keys in Summary References: <86obqseseq.fsf@web.de> <87a9x4wfii.fsf@gnus.org> <87k3w51w5z.fsf@web.de> X-Now-Playing: Winston Tong's _Theoretically Chinese_ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:58:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87k3w51w5z.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:35:10 +0200") Message-ID: <87licm5asj.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1TnXpP-0004dr-D7 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1357059490.05065@jV4bmWYuwVMnu7HghO0AhA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11248 Cc: 11248@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: >> Are there any icicles-mode commands that are useful in the summary >> buffer? > > Icicles uses M-s M-s as a prefix for all its several search commands - > no doubt some of them could indeed be useful in the summary buffer, > e.g. M-s M-s l (`icicle-search-lines') or M-s M-s M-s > (`icicle-search-generic'). > > But that's not my point. But that's my point. If the icicles commands aren't useful in the Gnus buffers, then switching icicles on in those buffers is the wrong thing to do. > There are lots of people that use both Gnus and Icicles. And for all > of them, currently `gnus-summary-search-article-forward' is by default > not reachable by any key in the summary buffer, and thus e.g. not > "discoverable" with C-h b or C-h w. > > Of course I'm open to other suggestions than mine, but IMHO this binding > conflict should be solved in one way or another. Well, `M-s' isn't going to change in Gnus. It's been that way forever. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 25 13:04:43 2012 Received: (at 11248) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2012 18:04:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59541 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnYrn-0004me-5D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:04:43 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:64901) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TnYrf-0004mM-Gh for 11248@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:04:37 -0500 Received: from drachen.dragon ([89.204.138.92]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0Ljaiq-1TC1773IQC-00bOiU; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 19:03:53 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#11248: Problems with article search Keys in Summary References: <86obqseseq.fsf@web.de> <87a9x4wfii.fsf@gnus.org> <87k3w51w5z.fsf@web.de> <87licm5asj.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 19:04:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87licm5asj.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:58:04 +0100") Message-ID: <87k3s6m2in.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:cLtrzSK3j3u2n77Lj/KfFDmoC6LTwMfMHWX41Nr6x4u kK8waul5QQoXukhFacqZJwKjGo9eO83Wzt6sS5j15HwcPJO7Lg wLL/ko3agCJZfylJDJZYAeMsVVNf6QcGYQYjCAToDLW+0v+dWe h8M33759sTatD/QQe+begddiA1GpFcHWKZWSpAvogK6YsIP/lQ luAStlvhASVoG0hdzH42hIOKL6TfrVWjB3bwSDM0q0= X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11248 Cc: 11248@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Michael Heerdegen writes: > > >> Are there any icicles-mode commands that are useful in the summary > >> buffer? > > > > Icicles uses M-s M-s as a prefix for all its several search commands - > > no doubt some of them could indeed be useful in the summary buffer, > > e.g. M-s M-s l (`icicle-search-lines') or M-s M-s M-s > > (`icicle-search-generic'). > > > > But that's not my point. > > But that's my point. If the icicles commands aren't useful in the Gnus > buffers, then switching icicles on in those buffers is the wrong thing > to do. But `icicle-mode' is a _global_ minor mode. It's typically on for a whole session. Users can't use your M-s binding _all_the_time_! Once you understood that there is really a problem for users, and decide not to change anything, I'm ok. > > There are lots of people that use both Gnus and Icicles. And for all > > of them, currently `gnus-summary-search-article-forward' is by default > > not reachable by any key in the summary buffer, and thus e.g. not > > "discoverable" with C-h b or C-h w. > > > > Of course I'm open to other suggestions than mine, but IMHO this binding > > conflict should be solved in one way or another. > > Well, `M-s' isn't going to change in Gnus. It's been that way > forever. Ok, it's your decision. How about using C-S and C-R as alternative bindings, as I suggested? Regards, Michael. 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