From unknown Sun Sep 21 00:07:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11217: Bugs in coreutils 8.13-8.16 (German localization) Resent-From: cbrill@arcor.de Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 11217 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 11217@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13341076462583 (code B ref -1); Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:28:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Apr 2012 01:27:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49743 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHmLF-0000fb-IR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:27:26 -0400 Received: from mail-in-11.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.51]:43286) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHm7t-0000Im-Pw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:13:39 -0400 Received: from mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.34]) by mx.arcor.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3226735A3AA for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:12:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-11.arcor-online.net (mail-in-11.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.51]) by mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F62F36628C for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:12:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail17.arcor-online.net (webmail17.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.75]) by mail-in-11.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2705D35A3AA for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:12:32 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-11.arcor-online.net 2705D35A3AA DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1334106752; bh=vi4iBiyY2rDLOCrh0TXRb7l5g7Wns7EPhf8lCfnty88=; h=Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RgLpE+kU1Jk7vOuPxtJpUOutU6IvtIJRWRxRGCRE79xZ1EyYurgmNHX7jgLSWPa6X OKHWAq6qDSXPlpFCtN83xOa9UhUyf3FBg11MF/vsoPLIReAIFqjwfQEhGheuzbgDXr 4JofCWpTE0K9hFInYcBOPb/FPXny7dmklUnWa6S4= Received: from [212.23.103.20] by webmail17.arcor-online.net (151.189.8.75) with HTTP (Arcor Webmail); Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:12:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:12:32 +0200 (CEST) From: cbrill@arcor.de Message-ID: <1534919762.486972.1334106752141.JavaMail.ngmail@webmail17.arcor-online.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ngMessageSubType: MessageSubType_MAIL X-WebmailclientIP: 212.23.103.20 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:27:24 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Package: coreutils Version: 8.13 - 8.16 Faults: (only applicable to german localization): When trying to re-create an already created symbolic link, ln's error messa= ge contains three faults, one grammatical, one [important] logical one orthographical. Reproduction: touch ./foo ln -s ./foo ./bar >>>then again: ln -s ./foo ./bar ln: Symbolischen Verkn=FCpfung =84./bar=93 konnte angelgt werden: Die Datei= existiert bereits. Corrected error message reads like this: ln: Symbolische Verkn=FCpfung =84./bar=93 konnte nicht angelegt werden: Die= Datei existiert bereits. Corrections: - 1) Symbolische Verkn=FCpfung [...] -> minor important grammatical mistake= . - 2) [...] konnte nicht angelgt werden: [...] -> this one is important, the= negotiation is missing. - 3) [...] angelegt werden: [...] -> minor important ortographical mistake = (typo). whereas original english errStr is correct: LC_ALL=3DC ln -s ./foo ./bar ln: failed to create symbolic link `bar': File exists File /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo (binary) - (tested usin= g Debian coreutils 8.13-3.1) resp. ./po/de.po & ./po/de.gmo source (8.13, 8.14, 8.15, 8.16) belong to 'c= oreutils', not 'locales', so this is a coreutils problem. I've reported the problem at bugs.debian.org, too - since it may be in the = interest of Debian to correct this in distribution packages before 8.17 or = so migrates to sid/testing. Yfyi: German localization files contain several other typos/mistakes. Best regards, C. Brill Frankfurt /Germany From unknown Sun Sep 21 00:07:37 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: cbrill@arcor.de Subject: bug#11217: closed (Re: bug#11217: Bugs in coreutils 8.13-8.16 (German localization)) Message-ID: References: <4F853266.9050309@draigBrady.com> <1534919762.486972.1334106752141.JavaMail.ngmail@webmail17.arcor-online.net> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 11217 X-Gnu-PR-Package: coreutils Reply-To: 11217@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:29:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1334129342-16967-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1334129342-16967-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #11217: Bugs in coreutils 8.13-8.16 (German localization) which was filed against the coreutils package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 11217@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 11217: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D11217 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1334129342-16967-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 11217-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Apr 2012 07:28:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50274 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHryx-0004PH-P2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:28:48 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:30211) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHryv-0004P9-3u for 11217-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:28:46 -0400 Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q3B7RaCK014841 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:27:36 -0400 Received: from [10.36.116.52] (ovpn-116-52.ams2.redhat.com [10.36.116.52]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q3B7RYC3014394 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:27:35 -0400 Message-ID: <4F853266.9050309@draigBrady.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:27:34 +0100 From: =?windows-1252?Q?P=E1draig_Brady?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110816 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cbrill@arcor.de Subject: Re: bug#11217: Bugs in coreutils 8.13-8.16 (German localization) References: <1534919762.486972.1334106752141.JavaMail.ngmail@webmail17.arcor-online.net> In-Reply-To: <1534919762.486972.1334106752141.JavaMail.ngmail@webmail17.arcor-online.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mx1.redhat.com id q3B7RaCK014841 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11217-done Cc: 11217-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) tags 11217 notabug On 04/11/2012 02:12 AM, cbrill@arcor.de wrote: > Package: coreutils > Version: 8.13 - 8.16 >=20 > Faults: > (only applicable to german localization): > When trying to re-create an already created symbolic link, ln's error m= essage contains three faults, > one grammatical, one [important] logical one orthographical. >=20 > Reproduction: >=20 > touch ./foo > ln -s ./foo ./bar >>>> then again: > ln -s ./foo ./bar > ln: Symbolischen Verkn=FCpfung =84./bar=93 konnte angelgt werden: Die D= atei existiert bereits. >=20 > Corrected error message reads like this: > ln: Symbolische Verkn=FCpfung =84./bar=93 konnte nicht angelegt werden:= Die Datei existiert bereits. >=20 > Corrections: > - 1) Symbolische Verkn=FCpfung [...] -> minor important grammatical mis= take. > - 2) [...] konnte nicht angelgt werden: [...] -> this one is important,= the negotiation is missing. > - 3) [...] angelegt werden: [...] -> minor important ortographical mist= ake (typo). >=20 > whereas original english errStr is correct: > LC_ALL=3DC ln -s ./foo ./bar > ln: failed to create symbolic link `bar': File exists >=20 > File /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo (binary) - (tested = using Debian coreutils 8.13-3.1) > resp. ./po/de.po & ./po/de.gmo source (8.13, 8.14, 8.15, 8.16) belong t= o 'coreutils', not 'locales', so this is a coreutils problem. >=20 > I've reported the problem at bugs.debian.org, too - since it may be in = the interest of Debian to correct this in distribution packages before 8.= 17 or so migrates to sid/testing. >=20 > Yfyi: German localization files contain several other typos/mistakes. >=20 > Best regards, > C. Brill Frankfurt /Germany Thanks. You may want to join http://translationproject.org/team/de.html and fix the translations directly. We get our translations from there. cheers, P=E1draig. ------------=_1334129342-16967-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Apr 2012 01:27:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49743 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHmLF-0000fb-IR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:27:26 -0400 Received: from mail-in-11.arcor-online.net ([151.189.21.51]:43286) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHm7t-0000Im-Pw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:13:39 -0400 Received: from mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.34]) by mx.arcor.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3226735A3AA for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:12:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-in-11.arcor-online.net (mail-in-11.arcor-online.net [151.189.21.51]) by mail-in-17-z2.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F62F36628C for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:12:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail17.arcor-online.net (webmail17.arcor-online.net [151.189.8.75]) by mail-in-11.arcor-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2705D35A3AA for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:12:32 +0200 (CEST) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-11.arcor-online.net 2705D35A3AA DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1334106752; bh=vi4iBiyY2rDLOCrh0TXRb7l5g7Wns7EPhf8lCfnty88=; h=Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=RgLpE+kU1Jk7vOuPxtJpUOutU6IvtIJRWRxRGCRE79xZ1EyYurgmNHX7jgLSWPa6X OKHWAq6qDSXPlpFCtN83xOa9UhUyf3FBg11MF/vsoPLIReAIFqjwfQEhGheuzbgDXr 4JofCWpTE0K9hFInYcBOPb/FPXny7dmklUnWa6S4= Received: from [212.23.103.20] by webmail17.arcor-online.net (151.189.8.75) with HTTP (Arcor Webmail); Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:12:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:12:32 +0200 (CEST) From: cbrill@arcor.de To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Message-ID: <1534919762.486972.1334106752141.JavaMail.ngmail@webmail17.arcor-online.net> Subject: Bugs in coreutils 8.13-8.16 (German localization) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ngMessageSubType: MessageSubType_MAIL X-WebmailclientIP: 212.23.103.20 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:27:24 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Package: coreutils Version: 8.13 - 8.16 Faults: (only applicable to german localization): When trying to re-create an already created symbolic link, ln's error messa= ge contains three faults, one grammatical, one [important] logical one orthographical. Reproduction: touch ./foo ln -s ./foo ./bar >>>then again: ln -s ./foo ./bar ln: Symbolischen Verkn=FCpfung =84./bar=93 konnte angelgt werden: Die Datei= existiert bereits. Corrected error message reads like this: ln: Symbolische Verkn=FCpfung =84./bar=93 konnte nicht angelegt werden: Die= Datei existiert bereits. Corrections: - 1) Symbolische Verkn=FCpfung [...] -> minor important grammatical mistake= . - 2) [...] konnte nicht angelgt werden: [...] -> this one is important, the= negotiation is missing. - 3) [...] angelegt werden: [...] -> minor important ortographical mistake = (typo). whereas original english errStr is correct: LC_ALL=3DC ln -s ./foo ./bar ln: failed to create symbolic link `bar': File exists File /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo (binary) - (tested usin= g Debian coreutils 8.13-3.1) resp. ./po/de.po & ./po/de.gmo source (8.13, 8.14, 8.15, 8.16) belong to 'c= oreutils', not 'locales', so this is a coreutils problem. I've reported the problem at bugs.debian.org, too - since it may be in the = interest of Debian to correct this in distribution packages before 8.17 or = so migrates to sid/testing. Yfyi: German localization files contain several other typos/mistakes. Best regards, C. Brill Frankfurt /Germany ------------=_1334129342-16967-1-- From unknown Sun Sep 21 00:07:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11217: Bugs in coreutils 8.13-8.16 (German localization) Resent-From: Philipp Thomas Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11217 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: cbrill@arcor.de Cc: 11217@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11217-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11217.13343288509615 (code B ref 11217); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:55:02 +0000 Received: (at 11217) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Apr 2012 14:54:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57392 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIht3-0002V1-T1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:54:10 -0400 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:47294 helo=mx2.suse.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SIht1-0002Us-6J for 11217@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:54:08 -0400 Received: from relay1.suse.de (unknown [195.135.220.254]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCD990B49; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:52:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:52:47 +0200 From: Philipp Thomas Message-ID: <20120413145247.GA17508@paradies.suse.de> References: <1534919762.486972.1334106752141.JavaMail.ngmail@webmail17.arcor-online.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1534919762.486972.1334106752141.JavaMail.ngmail@webmail17.arcor-online.net> X-Operating-System: openSUSE - Kernel Linux 3.3.0-1-desktop x86_64 Organization: SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix =?UTF-8?Q?Imend=C3=B6rffer,?= HRB 21284 (AG =?UTF-8?Q?N=C3=BCrnberg?=) User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) * cbrill@arcor.de (cbrill@arcor.de) [20120411 10:13]: > ln: Symbolischen Verkn=FCpfung =84./bar=93 konnte angelgt werden: Die D= atei existiert bereits. >=20 > Corrected error message reads like this: > ln: Symbolische Verkn=FCpfung =84./bar=93 konnte nicht angelegt werden:= Die Datei existiert bereits. When you do 'ln --help' the german message will tell you in the second to last line: Melden Sie =DCbersetzungsfehler f=FCr ln an meaning Report ln translation bugs to Why didn't you do so? Please send your bug report to the stated mailing = list address. As I am the current translator for german I'll fix this when tim= e permits, but please do report the bug to help me keep track. Philipp