From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 28 19:54:15 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 23:54:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43817 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SD2gu-0006Oy-Tg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:54:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44953) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SD2ge-0006OK-9E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:54:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SD2CF-000829-6Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:22:32 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:41174) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SD2CF-00081q-2L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:22:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33428) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCzdi-0003N1-Sk for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:38:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCzdf-0006X4-QC for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:38:42 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-b11.telenor.se ([62.127.194.20]:52872) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCzdf-0006Vx-Jq for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:38:39 -0400 Received: from ipb3.telenor.se (ipb3.telenor.se [195.54.127.166]) by smtprelay-b11.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508F7E0BA for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:38:35 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.168.100] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnFlABV2c09T46hkPGdsb2JhbABFgx+GZq5nGQEBAQE3NII3ExyBMQwKiDuaMqBDjW6DJASVYZMW X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,333,1330902000"; d="scan'208";a="79225655" Received: from ua-83-227-168-100.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO mimmi.uddeborg.se) ([83.227.168.100]) by ipb3.telenor.se with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2012 22:38:34 +0200 Received: from freddi.uddeborg (freddi.uddeborg [172.17.0.3]) by mimmi.uddeborg.se (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2SKcW0s027905 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:38:32 +0200 Received: from freddi.uddeborg (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freddi.uddeborg (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2SKcV7U002054 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:38:31 +0200 Received: (from goeran@localhost) by freddi.uddeborg (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id q2SKcV5O002053; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:38:31 +0200 From: "=?utf-8?Q?G=C3=B6ran?= Uddeborg" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20339.30406.826836.180942@freddi.uddeborg> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:38:30 +0200 To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Subject: Suggestion to mark the the arrow for translation X-Mailer: VM 8.1.1 under 23.3.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) X-Face: "m&!q8; elk)j/GjdH0A1-5euH[VSc"z|=FSJFsZMltGCVh^{K :^Y;hs=IW^!,^]<.Do*c6+Eg2{+(^IjaW<2X,!<6=S\`8s3$0p'*sQ"tm\<(tRW?,CmQ3 X-URL: http://www.uddeborg.se/g%C3%B6ran/ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) When printing a symbolic link in ls, the target of the link is printed like this: if (f->linkname) { DIRED_FPUTS_LITERAL (" -> ", stdout); print_name_with_quoting (f, true, NULL, (p - buf) + w + 4); I would suggest marking the arrow for translation. DIRED_FPUTS_LITERAL (_(" -> "), stdout); In translations using Unicode a "real" arrow, the "rightwards arrow" (U+2192), can be used instead of the "ascii art arrow" traditionally used. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 29 02:35:14 2012 Received: (at 11117) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2012 06:35:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44003 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SD8ww-00083o-Lv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 02:35:13 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:54344) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SD8wN-00082v-3V for 11117@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 02:35:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1017439E800C; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:03:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WpDmYENq8EDc; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF8D139E800A; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F73FB20.7000409@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:03:12 -0700 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120310 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?R8O2cmFuIFVkZGVib3Jn?= Subject: Re: bug#11117: Suggestion to mark the the arrow for translation References: <20339.30406.826836.180942@freddi.uddeborg> In-Reply-To: <20339.30406.826836.180942@freddi.uddeborg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11117 Cc: 11117@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 03/28/2012 01:38 PM, G=C3=B6ran Uddeborg wrote: > DIRED_FPUTS_LITERAL (_(" -> "), stdout); Enough programs expect '->' that it may be wise to leave it alone. Also, POSIX requires that 'ls' use '->', and does not allow 'ls' to use '=E2=86=92' in any locale. I like the nicer arrows, though. Perhaps 'ls' could output them if given a new option (here I duck and run....). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 29 04:42:28 2012 Received: (at 11117-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2012 08:42:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44042 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDAw6-0002Uh-36 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:42:27 -0400 Received: from mail3.vodafone.ie ([213.233.128.45]:41991) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDAvh-0002Tv-PD for 11117-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:42:24 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBALgYdE9tTFYO/2dsb2JhbAANOA6FNbZYAQEBBAECIAQLAUYQCw0LAgIFFgsCAgkDAgECARYvBg0BBwEBiBGoVJIOgS+OWIEYBJM2gzyFAIxMOA Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.79]) ([109.76.86.14]) by mail3.vodafone.ie with ESMTP; 29 Mar 2012 09:10:14 +0100 Message-ID: <4F7418E5.4030207@draigBrady.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:10:13 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?UMOhZHJhaWcgQnJhZHk=?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110816 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: bug#11117: Suggestion to mark the the arrow for translation References: <20339.30406.826836.180942@freddi.uddeborg> <4F73FB20.7000409@cs.ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: <4F73FB20.7000409@cs.ucla.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11117-done Cc: 11117-done@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?B?R8O2cmFuIFVkZGVib3Jn?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) tags 11117 notabug On 03/29/2012 07:03 AM, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 03/28/2012 01:38 PM, Göran Uddeborg wrote: > >> DIRED_FPUTS_LITERAL (_(" -> "), stdout); > > Enough programs expect '->' that it may be wise to leave it alone. > Also, POSIX requires that 'ls' use '->', and does > not allow 'ls' to use '→' in any locale. > > I like the nicer arrows, though. Perhaps 'ls' could output > them if given a new option (here I duck and run....). This came up a couple of times already, so I'm marking this as "done". http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2009-08/msg00023.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2009-09/msg00096.html Note '→' often displays less clearly with monospace fonts used on terminals. cheers, Pádraig. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 30 16:31:01 2012 Received: (at 11117) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2012 20:31:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59739 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDiTM-0003j7-FK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:31:01 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-b12.telenor.se ([62.127.194.21]:60345) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDiTJ-0003iy-Jj for 11117@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:30:58 -0400 Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-b12.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E450AC27C for <11117@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:30:55 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [83.227.168.100] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AthXAEcXdk9T46hkPGdsb2JhbABFiguuZhkBAQEBNzSCCgEFJxMcMwtGLQwKFIgmuleNaIMkBJVhkxc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,345,1330902000"; d="scan'208";a="299459743" Received: from ua-83-227-168-100.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO mimmi.uddeborg.se) ([83.227.168.100]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 30 Mar 2012 22:30:55 +0200 Received: from freddi.uddeborg (freddi.uddeborg [172.17.0.3]) by mimmi.uddeborg.se (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2UKUrKC019465 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <11117@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:30:53 +0200 Received: from freddi.uddeborg (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freddi.uddeborg (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q2UKUqan010251 for <11117@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:30:52 +0200 Received: (from goeran@localhost) by freddi.uddeborg (8.14.5/8.14.4/Submit) id q2UKUpRr010250; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:30:51 +0200 From: "=?utf-8?Q?G=C3=B6ran?= Uddeborg" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20342.6139.333527.714251@freddi.uddeborg> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 22:30:51 +0200 To: 11117@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#11117: Suggestion to mark the the arrow for translation In-Reply-To: <4F73FB20.7000409@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20339.30406.826836.180942@freddi.uddeborg> <4F73FB20.7000409@cs.ucla.edu> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.1 under 23.3.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) X-Face: "m&!q8; elk)j/GjdH0A1-5euH[VSc"z|=FSJFsZMltGCVh^{K :^Y;hs=IW^!,^]<.Do*c6+Eg2{+(^IjaW<2X,!<6=S\`8s3$0p'*sQ"tm\<(tRW?,CmQ3 X-URL: http://www.uddeborg.se/g%C3%B6ran/ X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11117 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Paul Eggert: > Also, POSIX requires that 'ls' use '->', I was going to reply something about POSIXLY_CORRECT, but it seems I was too late for the debate. I guess we'll have to live with the ASCII art. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:34:41 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:24:02 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator