From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133287956429074 (code B ref -1); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:20:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2012 20:19:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41683 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCcrK-0007Yh-Ty for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:19:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39016) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCcr4-0007Y6-JK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:19:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCcMl-0006qI-Fc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:47:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:40081) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCcMl-0006q0-9Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:47:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34214) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCcMj-0003px-Br for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:47:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCcMg-0006oN-Ua for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:47:36 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:59791) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCcMg-0006nk-MU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:47:34 -0400 Received: by pbcup15 with SMTP id up15so717050pbc.0 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:47:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=ovERkDebemBW1eoJ+zFrEpFfu0L7CRp68RtgYmeiMbQ=; b=irw65CB4O3Qg+eDJ4xftT3LBthD3b9zYdZsUtCil3rCLlLn8cmvFEvBDwF6jXfeTk0 tc25O2eSbAIMZ8nUiUUUDj4DDJXSgF8i/uVoipRZs4peHOLuVjyTxuOJRz2U60H73goH g2utJ64/sJA06dmirqy3OtM5xT/uTQ9OR4rTo52J3Yt1fjmWSAMr9xcnVrQcqrA4tYWL zarmUrs64nuuux2Iprly1wA3k4zOu3nlEefzJfFc/qMUr4ykZm8rKI1hU21CEGD9ox2C uJKRAj2Idg3BQ14/UPCq+wYSfnNwrCxuJJQvF8+O9LaiSByJ/AP9PuNPb0BSVlDyvhm0 1F1g== Received: by 10.68.193.231 with SMTP id hr7mr44416382pbc.44.1332877652475; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JAMBU-NETBOOK ([101.63.177.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m1sm978582pbl.39.2012.03.27.12.47.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:47:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jambunathan K Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 01:17:21 +0530 Message-ID: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function make-local-hook) make-local-hook(kill-buffer-hook) dictionary-mode() dictionary() dictionary-ensure-buffer() dictionary-new-search((nil . "!")) dictionary-lookup-definition() call-interactively(dictionary-lookup-definition t nil) execute-extended-command(nil) call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) Library is file ~/elisp/dictionary-1.8.7/dictionary.elc I understand that this is a third party library and possibly no longer maintained. (See http://me.in-berlin.de/~myrkr/dictionary/download.html) I see the following reference to `make-local-hook' in NEWS but it doesn't help much. ,---- C-h n | * Incompatible Lisp Changes in Emacs 24. | make-local-hook (not needed), `---- Any workaround I can put locally in dictionary? In GNU Emacs 24.0.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-03-19 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include' From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:29:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jambunathan K Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.133288012229915 (code B ref 11104); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:29:07 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2012 20:28:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41688 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCd0T-0007mR-4c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:28:42 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:59450) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCd07-0007m1-Hq for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:28:39 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCcVp-0000Jx-2V; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:57:01 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: CID Maple passwd MD4 codes bomb anthrax benelux X-Ran: J$M!}XYdMd;8Aa8Vj*ol98]?/S(Lp=PiMU},h,@QMvo|Rj.@Ix9^II48~6SQM+p7@a6[+H X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:57:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 01:17:21 +0530") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Jambunathan K wrote: > Any workaround I can put locally in dictionary? Delete any calls to make-local-hook. They are... not needed. They do nothing (since Emacs 21.1). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 27 16:31:07 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2012 20:31:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41692 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCd2o-0007rD-GA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:31:07 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:59546) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCd2m-0007r7-Qh for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:31:05 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCcYV-0000Wi-H2 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:59:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:59:47 -0400 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 11104 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) unarchive 7236 forcemerge 7236 11104 From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Jambunathan K Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.13328815132589 (code B ref 11104); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2012 20:51:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41706 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCdMu-0000fh-CO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:51:53 -0400 Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.213.44]:57134) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCdML-0000f4-IW for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:51:50 -0400 Received: by yhkk25 with SMTP id k25so295147yhk.3 for <11104@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:19:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=WTR5yG9BlXETCcXqjdDb39PVd1tZNDsY1rTb6rySI6I=; b=aYiUYe61MqrE7zH/KqLepwviNrelB55DW5jyBb8VWawv/kEX+q9UqMD0xUP7W9PCix Bx4Svr10XlsTLgdkNwXFrO0hOfHqYlPdHdldI5Aa3yqUdrNjmH6CM/AtX3bY5yb+0KMP RLasu15buiuhry20hwjtr2jk1QZqzVOwysgy/95uagDZ42uo+jSppeVgt5Pnh8ZkKEHb tL3UgTMQHUAXBNUVQL/BkZBjDygd1A1BLKHU/TAR/nbjjDTt9tqqJFyPv17JvJxCF8IL U++0KW2uUB6LHzLxwrBhubS0Nf0qtQC8bHJCdx6z5eCa8rEByLUxBFQVgTyY7SZ092VS 9F2A== Received: by 10.68.237.36 with SMTP id uz4mr9798347pbc.165.1332879599220; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JAMBU-NETBOOK ([101.63.177.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i1sm1012549pbj.70.2012.03.27.13.19.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:19:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jambunathan K References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 01:49:47 +0530 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:57:00 -0400") Message-ID: <814nt9aja4.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Glenn Morris writes: > Jambunathan K wrote: > >> Any workaround I can put locally in dictionary? > > Delete any calls to make-local-hook. They are... not needed. > They do nothing (since Emacs 21.1). Ahhh, the comment is too succinct and I got confused. For the sake of record, I have done this. (defalias 'make-local-hook 'ignore) From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Glenn Morris Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org, Jambunathan K Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.13328938882311 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 00:18:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41962 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCgaT-0000bA-BU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:18:07 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com ([209.85.212.174]:42908) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCgaC-0000aU-Ga for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:18:04 -0400 Received: by wibhr17 with SMTP id hr17so5441840wib.15 for <11104@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:46:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=3+ue2rrA9DSV3Sv3QDjP3lAG/qgZGEUhFLJJRUQb7Sc=; b=JlnoHGTRbtcF+r8MqBWDGE9X7vPhj37OJsAvNQk+oT0HtAjnnjzLAnRnM6G9JaGKTj Gl4ePg4bR/vbECvdNWhLs8dD8ay10NumG18f2SVS+r1uKPm063jZDvfy5Mi3vZjfNGjt vQyqHxvW/4qQ2thz9jmb0HoIGSLNN4zc9YZZyAdeCL5P3CEFNVvjqfljxw130H82iPIN LZmTlEBIWQvX9LmexFOmBmbijvK43nz6i8rjnpeWAOoVcu8S4nAbfGGUyx/yrYDolykr CS6n04JAK7WHNp08cw1uwvakbIHPx3pje6d2Ytmv+tThDfXEXYagDChz+SHaYnp4V7cI gqGQ== Received: by 10.180.94.161 with SMTP id dd1mr1897348wib.16.1332891989563; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhost.localdomain (pha75-11-82-236-86-204.fbx.proxad.net. [82.236.86.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n15sm53354664wiw.6.2012.03.27.16.46.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1EA3C857F; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:02:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:57:00 -0400") References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:02:07 +0200 Message-ID: <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Glenn Morris writes: > Jambunathan K wrote: > >> Any workaround I can put locally in dictionary? > > Delete any calls to make-local-hook. They are... not needed. > They do nothing (since Emacs 21.1). Comment to my previous message in this thread: (defalias 'make-local-hook (if (featurep 'xemacs) 'make-local-hook 'ignore)) is actually the same function that `gnus-make-local-hook'. Adding the defalias above is a more generalized backward-compatibility fix that other packages than Gnus would be aware of. Should we add it to Emacs? -- Bastien From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? 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[82.236.86.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ff2sm5468905wib.9.2012.03.27.16.46.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E7A42856E; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:00:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 01:17:21 +0530") References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:00:18 +0200 Message-ID: <87limlbyr1.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Jambunathan, Jambunathan K writes: > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function make-local-hook) > make-local-hook(kill-buffer-hook) > dictionary-mode() > dictionary() > dictionary-ensure-buffer() > dictionary-new-search((nil . "!")) > dictionary-lookup-definition() > call-interactively(dictionary-lookup-definition t nil) > execute-extended-command(nil) > call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) > > Library is file ~/elisp/dictionary-1.8.7/dictionary.elc > > I understand that this is a third party library and possibly no longer > maintained. (See http://me.in-berlin.de/~myrkr/dictionary/download.html) > > I see the following reference to `make-local-hook' in NEWS but it > doesn't help much. > > ,---- C-h n > | * Incompatible Lisp Changes in Emacs 24. > | make-local-hook (not needed), > `---- > > Any workaround I can put locally in dictionary? You can use this: (defalias 'make-local-hook (if (featurep 'xemacs) 'make-local-hook 'ignore)) Perhaps this should be added to Emacs, I've seen another packages that break only because of this. -- Bastien From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) On 2012-03-28 04:02 +0800, Bastien wrote: > Adding the defalias above is a more generalized backward-compatibility > fix that other packages than Gnus would be aware of. Should we add it > to Emacs? Why add it back? I think we should let those packages do it in their own name space. Leo From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Leo Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.13329323991967 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:00:02 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 10:59:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42367 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCqbe-0000Ve-8m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 06:59:59 -0400 Received: from incoming2.cnam.fr ([163.173.128.34]:56839) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCqb5-0000Ux-Jx for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 06:59:56 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAEvjck+jrT4T/2dsb2JhbABCuHaBB4IJAQEEAXkFCwsNCwklDwEEDQsxExqHawS2RIoAhxIEjgKGCoFVhhGFIIR8gmk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,661,1325458800"; d="scan'208";a="30266434" Received: from unknown (HELO myhost.localdomain) ([163.173.62.19]) by outgoing2.cnam.fr with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2012 12:28:01 +0200 Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 993EA856E; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:29:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Leo's message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:05:35 +0800") References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:29:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87mx71t3wf.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Leo writes: > On 2012-03-28 04:02 +0800, Bastien wrote: >> Adding the defalias above is a more generalized backward-compatibility >> fix that other packages than Gnus would be aware of. Should we add it >> to Emacs? > > Why add it back? I think we should let those packages do it in their own > name space. When it's for XEmacs compatibility I agree. But this single line (defalias 'make-local-hook 'ignore) if added to Emacs, would be of great help for users who don't know what's wrong. -- Bastien From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Bastien Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org, Leo Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.13329345198297 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 11:35:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42378 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCr9m-00029h-Nq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:35:19 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:58790) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCr9S-00028r-Qz for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:35:10 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3VHmRT0Gdgz4KLNr; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:03:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from igel.home (ppp-93-104-152-34.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.152.34]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3VHmRS0q2Hz4KK96; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:03:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id BF38CCA29F; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:03:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <87mx71t3wf.fsf@altern.org> X-Yow: Yow! Are you the self-frying president? Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:03:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mx71t3wf.fsf@altern.org> (Bastien's message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:29:20 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Bastien writes: > But this single line > > (defalias 'make-local-hook 'ignore) This is wrong. It should be identity instead. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org, Leo Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.133293602910595 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 12:00:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42408 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCrY4-0002ka-Be for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:00:29 -0400 Received: from incoming2.cnam.fr ([163.173.128.34]:21906) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCrXn-0002jn-G8 for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:00:18 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AssLADPxck+jrT4T/2dsb2JhbAA8CY0yqigBA4EPgQeCCQEBBAF5BQsLDRQlDwEEGDETGodrBLp9im8tM4VDBI4Ch1+GEYocgmk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,661,1325458800"; d="scan'208";a="30267750" Received: from unknown (HELO myhost.localdomain) ([163.173.62.19]) by outgoing2.cnam.fr with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2012 13:28:41 +0200 Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1796B856E; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:30:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:03:31 +0200") References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <87mx71t3wf.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:30:00 +0200 Message-ID: <871uodt13b.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Andreas Schwab writes: > Bastien writes: > >> But this single line >> >> (defalias 'make-local-hook 'ignore) > > This is wrong. It should be identity instead. Why? -- Bastien From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) On 2012-03-28 18:29 +0800, Bastien wrote: > When it's for XEmacs compatibility I agree. > > But this single line > > (defalias 'make-local-hook 'ignore) > > if added to Emacs, would be of great help for users who don't > know what's wrong. ,---- | This function is obsolete since 21.1; not necessary any more. `---- It was removed for some time now and some code might be dependent on its removal already. So add it back is not an option. (unless (fboundp 'make-local-hook) .....) Leo From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? 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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) On 2012-03-28 19:30 +0800, Bastien wrote: > Why? Check the documentation on the return value. Leo From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: "'Leo'" , <11104@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.133294078821141 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:20:02 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 13:19:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42546 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCsmw-0005Uu-Ht for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:19:48 -0400 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:39454) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCsmf-0005UX-Hc for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:19:44 -0400 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q2SCm6x3006894 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:48:07 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q2SCm5F0001012 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:48:06 GMT Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q2SCm5sQ012980; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:48:05 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.35.243) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 05:48:04 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 05:47:56 -0700 Message-ID: <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac0MyoDzm+NmQS5GSReR+Ly8r+z1tQAFSsMw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090208.4F730887.00CB,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) > Why add it back? I think we should let those packages do it > in their own name space. It seems to be part of GNU Emacs already, albeit in Gnusland. And maybe soon in Orgland as well? Or are you suggesting that Gnus (& Org...) be removed from Emacs? Relegated to Elpagatory perhaps? ;-) (Sure, why not?) From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org, 'Leo' Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.133294263826976 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:51:02 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 13:50:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42576 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCtGY-00070m-OA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:50:37 -0400 Received: from incoming2.cnam.fr ([163.173.128.34]:30771) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCtGH-00070I-5w for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:50:20 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAIMNc0+jrT4T/2dsb2JhbAA8CbhtgQeCCQEBBAF5EAsNFCUPAQQYMRMah2sEunaKb4YjBI4Ch1+GEYocgmk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,661,1325458800"; d="scan'208";a="30271100" Received: from unknown (HELO myhost.localdomain) ([163.173.62.19]) by outgoing2.cnam.fr with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2012 15:18:42 +0200 Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DC4F2856E; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:20:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 05:47:56 -0700") References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:20:01 +0200 Message-ID: <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) "Drew Adams" writes: >> Why add it back? I think we should let those packages do it >> in their own name space. > > It seems to be part of GNU Emacs already, albeit in Gnusland. > And maybe soon in Orgland as well? And Gnus defines it using 'ignore. I've check the docstrings of 'ignore and 'identity and I still don't understand why 'identity should be used instead of 'ignore (as Gnus does). Any useful hint? -- Bastien From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? In-Reply-To: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> Resent-From: Leo Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.1332946440770 (code B ref -1); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:54:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 14:54:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43346 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCuG6-0000CK-W7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:54:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39586) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCuFZ-0000Bd-0V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:53:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCtl8-00054x-9P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:22:03 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:41023) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCtl8-00054t-6j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:21:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49728) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCtl6-0000Cp-JA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:21:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCtkw-00053D-Q9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:21:55 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36049) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCtkw-000537-JX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:21:46 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SCtku-0007p8-NE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:21:44 +0200 Received: from 123.114.35.136 ([123.114.35.136]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:21:44 +0200 Received: from sdl.web by 123.114.35.136 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:21:44 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Leo Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:21:33 +0800 Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 123.114.35.136 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAGFBMVEUKDAg1NjRWV1V9fnyg op/DxcLk5uP8/voi63ReAAAACXBIWXMAAAWJAAAFiQFtaJ36AAAAB3RJTUUH1goZAgAz00bgXgAA AeVJREFUKM9lk0Fz2jAQhQXJD3CCO70CmcC1YMtcWyTZ14Bl69xats4N9r6/3zWQBlodNKNPu/s0 b1cCQFuZGpfVVh3vAvBJolIXRkapSuoRUtIdFyo1Y5xSdlAj7OtvD1XnXxmWRi+eWgcxyCed1lVV B1CrKyujMoi+eLA5kU1SsjoHlW+nQjTtFxk4MXgrOxvIqzoTZR8XgPaLl419zgsMaSGFPiUOZCIh thsx5Xy9NsK8Kwf/JoQgMxcVJ301HKkcSWaT0O7FY056J4U9xcYfnmVXG4801lW6lqwu2nKFZoHC HuzvaTVndZ+LaRQgZdthXw1cpynEkLEwyFHXk/aIxNQ6QeooJuzPMB+wn+D7JJNsiCcVA13/A3h/ xE9J+WidpAwoYNmRFwyvSRhNVtsdaAewzZZP5uw82QL9+tyNfocyP0McAzICUr5Mk9RdIjWasUNx aIIt6NK4ZtXIMdfMQt3nuMAyWbLI4DqZ4xPq/ag8jPond4XU/cLuOgw6XCFX/YCUfcDAMMH58fD4 G9kDchwfqVefkBwup2uZM+Q4WhJt5jN3AxXCsaS2yXEDuWgS8VOzW0gFjhEPmLyFMKBFaLb1HRwc DiaKwx0EeTMRYnYPQRW3PP4HApvlMv0PttX5v/D6Aws3IOSEwzmLAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (Mac OS X 10.6.8) Cancel-Lock: sha1:VJffYtZTZDcEgZExtfFe/oWR7aA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) ...... This function is obsolete since 21.1; not necessary any more. Make the hook HOOK local to the current buffer. The return value is HOOK. ^ +----- see? Leo From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Leo Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.13329469251544 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 15:02:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43350 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCuNv-0000Op-2g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:02:04 -0400 Received: from incoming2.cnam.fr ([163.173.128.34]:56822) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCuNf-0000OC-0s for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:02:02 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsoLAFMgc0+jrT4T/2dsb2JhbABFjTKqKAEDgQ+BB4IKAQV5EAsNFCUPAQQNCzETGodvuwCKAIEcMxiFKwSOAoYKgVWGEYUghHyCaQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,661,1325458800"; d="scan'208";a="30273522" Received: from unknown (HELO myhost.localdomain) ([163.173.62.19]) by outgoing2.cnam.fr with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2012 16:30:02 +0200 Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1F04E856E; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:31:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Leo's message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:21:33 +0800") References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:31:21 +0200 Message-ID: <87r4wcre4m.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Leo writes: > ...... > This function is obsolete since 21.1; > not necessary any more. > > Make the hook HOOK local to the current buffer. > The return value is HOOK. > ^ > +----- see? No, I don't see. Can you be more explicit? -- Bastien From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Bastien Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org, 'Leo' , Drew Adams Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.13329472402001 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:08:02 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 15:07:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43354 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCuT1-0000WE-Jx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:07:20 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:44144) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCuSS-0000VD-NH for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:07:18 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3VHs7t0FxYz3hkRk; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:35:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from igel.home (ppp-93-104-152-34.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.152.34]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3VHs7q6km0z4KKKX; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:35:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id E680ECA29F; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:35:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> X-Yow: We are now enjoying total mutual interaction in an imaginary hot tub... Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:35:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> (Bastien's message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:20:01 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Bastien writes: > And Gnus defines it using 'ignore. It doesn't. It defines gnus-make-local-hook. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org, 'Leo' , Drew Adams Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.13329481113514 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:22:01 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 15:21:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43406 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCuh3-0000uc-TG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:21:51 -0400 Received: from incoming2.cnam.fr ([163.173.128.34]:55141) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCuh1-0000uU-Jv for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:21:48 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAOwkc0+jrT4T/2dsb2JhbAA8CbhtgQeCCQEBBAF5BQsLDRQlDwEEGDETGodrBLsAim+GIwSOAodfhhGKHIJp X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,661,1325458800"; d="scan'208";a="30274197" Received: from unknown (HELO myhost.localdomain) ([163.173.62.19]) by outgoing2.cnam.fr with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2012 16:50:02 +0200 Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D3A82856E; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:42:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:35:18 +0200") References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:42:46 +0200 Message-ID: <87k424rdll.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Andreas Schwab writes: > Bastien writes: > >> And Gnus defines it using 'ignore. > > It doesn't. It defines gnus-make-local-hook. This is in gnus-utils.el: ;; The LOCAL arg to `add-hook' is interpreted differently in Emacs and ;; XEmacs. In Emacs we don't need to call `make-local-hook' first. ;; It's harmless, though, so the main purpose of this alias is to shut ;; up the byte compiler. (defalias 'gnus-make-local-hook (if (featurep 'xemacs) 'make-local-hook 'ignore)) IIUC, you think it should be (defalias 'gnus-make-local-hook (if (featurep 'xemacs) 'make-local-hook 'identity)) right? -- Bastien From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Bastien Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org, 'Leo' , Drew Adams Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.13329499139214 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 15:51:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43420 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCvA8-0002OX-A7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:51:53 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:34154) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCv9r-0002Nr-6I for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:51:50 -0400 Received: from frontend2.mail.m-online.net (frontend2.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.181]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3VHt7c0qzFz3hkRy; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:20:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: wpaVpG73km03UE/nfWN/jryE4Tavc5TQZ2TxMBpxVHc= Received: from igel.home (ppp-93-104-152-34.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.152.34]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F25421C0008F; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:20:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 6F745CA29F; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:20:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> <87k424rdll.fsf@altern.org> X-Yow: I want EARS! I want two ROUND BLACK EARS to make me feel warm 'n secure!! Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:20:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87k424rdll.fsf@altern.org> (Bastien's message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:42:46 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Bastien writes: > IIUC, you think it should be > > (defalias 'gnus-make-local-hook (if (featurep 'xemacs) > 'make-local-hook > 'identity)) > > right? No. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org, 'Leo' , Drew Adams Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.13329500939494 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:55:02 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 15:54:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43424 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCvD2-0002T3-Fw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:54:53 -0400 Received: from incoming2.cnam.fr ([163.173.128.34]:14795) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCvD0-0002Sw-Jc for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:54:51 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EALopc0+jrT4T/2dsb2JhbAA8CbhsgQeCCQEBBAF5BQsLDRQlDwEEGDETGodrBLsGim+GIwSOAodfhhGKHIJp X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,661,1325458800"; d="scan'208";a="30275274" Received: from unknown (HELO myhost.localdomain) ([163.173.62.19]) by outgoing2.cnam.fr with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2012 17:23:26 +0200 Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E3EB3856E; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:24:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:20:11 +0200") References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> <87k424rdll.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:24:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87398slpdu.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Andreas Schwab writes: > Bastien writes: > >> IIUC, you think it should be >> >> (defalias 'gnus-make-local-hook (if (featurep 'xemacs) >> 'make-local-hook >> 'identity)) >> >> right? > > No. You said: >> (defalias 'make-local-hook 'ignore) > >This is wrong. It should be identity instead. So you are suggesting (defalias 'make-local-hook 'ignore) should be (defalias 'make-local-hook 'identity) instead. Am I right? -- Bastien, trying to communicate with a sphinx From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Bastien Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab , Leo Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.133295055713309 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 16:02:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43458 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCvKW-0003Sc-Bb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:02:36 -0400 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44]:39740) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCvKT-0003SU-MI for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:02:35 -0400 Received: by lagj5 with SMTP id j5so1313632lag.3 for <11104@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:31:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zsimuQOoS9w++N+e0uTn3b+CtIZ3OkU3sIldo3ZbVZw=; b=TdWwTmIVQr71ymrsD04pYFYMRH3JeMyJkjYLNF/b54SOTF3KbIpMjsVDU2o0FIvRAe 6OqtxW1/Lk2E+OI84b68hy99rEOCYoILpBJNvZGp1Kw81k8dbZH5z61brnue0/8EPHVi pDQS/R915uhGte5Xj6iQbXdy57/pn8cDoDwCQMNAwsq0UgzRGgl52YQxaelI3BHBJiig 8JRX/7ShYqhY+WG9ezttAXM7RiAAU7GZLLJ8pzck/4yjG4fehnRuYpgc1Ck6SdJWtBMe Mb68xCkrc3le42G9tjhldFoNprePAX95tQe/No1pCWG0J+pYJclsBDMZHL9J71WIJAaz 3SGg== Received: by 10.152.148.234 with SMTP id tv10mr23611623lab.41.1332948671029; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:31:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.2.200 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:30:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87398slpdu.fsf@altern.org> References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> <87k424rdll.fsf@altern.org> <87398slpdu.fsf@altern.org> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:30:50 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 17:24, Bastien wrote: > Andreas Schwab writes: > >> Bastien writes: >> >>> IIUC, you think it should be >>> >>> (defalias 'gnus-make-local-hook (if (featurep 'xemacs) >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 'make-local-hook >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 'identity)) >>> >>> right? >> >> No. :-) -- This kind of humourness is hard on the internet. I am glad when it is seen as humour. From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Lennart Borgman Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab , Leo Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.133297379916865 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 22:29:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43783 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SD1NN-0004Nx-T7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:29:59 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com ([209.85.212.170]:57271) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SD1N7-0004Na-LX for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:29:56 -0400 Received: by wibhr17 with SMTP id hr17so6284374wib.3 for <11104@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:58:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:organization:references :user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=G92cRJenlyFV5SI+Q3mShFZKBFHqbyTFIcfdLpPEZm8=; b=Sir+sED+LQs//HRCIhx88GzQRETZeTBW0HbIOrmnmCjPByOVZTjja2ZGrtCT/obwiv FO6FXCJ6GRQYP/Z6tocPOJ1w09gkDmncUh+kvH9YQi1JXIsfbIIwoXEkoH6YxSbCTDKy SGTzEdwmmVszkWvlYWDFwi11QmgHRWgc6GNt0Aa/s4sVlItzGGH/D3HaOeo9Lj5TnqaF +A+0GT1uRAVu1hQ6mYQ5BZ5Ly24j60hxRmMmKFsjXpQXp9h49eA4gOghqqNI290Udd2s 6+9ef3E+S81a7ejqsiZFJG1hRk5bJUZ5fWtbF+SjQJSnTPipPurLVUWw7sIhe1DQiYzD mFVw== Received: by 10.216.144.138 with SMTP id n10mr18070355wej.56.1332971897410; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhost.localdomain (pha75-11-82-236-86-204.fbx.proxad.net. [82.236.86.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l5sm61358635wia.11.2012.03.28.14.58.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A10A4856E; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:59:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 17:30:50 +0200") Organization: None References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> <87k424rdll.fsf@altern.org> <87398slpdu.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:59:34 +0200 Message-ID: <87wr64tmih.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Lennart Borgman writes: > :-) -- This kind of humourness is hard on the internet. I am glad > when it is seen as humour. I see it as such. But I still don't understand why we should use (defalias 'make-local-hook 'identity) instead of (defalias 'make-local-hook 'ignore) Life is full of mysteries, that's alright. -- Bastien From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Bastien Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab , Leo Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.133297391317100 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 28 Mar 2012 22:32:01 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2012 22:31:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43790 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SD1PF-0004Rg-0B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:31:53 -0400 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44]:50279) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SD1Ot-0004R4-9w for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:31:46 -0400 Received: by lagj5 with SMTP id j5so1708793lag.3 for <11104@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:00:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=B+Dd5UUR2u2bTcaX5up3+yCoCOeIoE5YvkAEwKApUhs=; b=vtGS1EVhBpsuym0iX/ZzvqEK+qAXKDiTYtBJNLBXQDdfvoIQMRgzS/XMJpw67i42UX FjE7VLn3qh3Sh/FQ5kZCLwd/A+XActb5Pz6IUDl8Y06sOcUPZEUeHJqtQP7FGErANWby 9SPVpCmL9gpCVY4h55fP/8BJk4c+rVyS+6aKb1tC1Z4ze2YHai+0P4Q/0VSYj2/kTS+m 7sNUkgAOyP+T4Oelr2gzLdo2BlP+0NXhBDmlhnF+KyG1uhIhH3f2EDxWoXyiB8GfjsLS 5RUKb2XvU7Od8PHe4o/wYMr0+90Nk8EtobyaiI6ADb5Vxkvle5gwjYTJO12mwgOvla33 8W3g== Received: by 10.152.123.229 with SMTP id md5mr24874948lab.34.1332972006803; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:00:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.2.200 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:59:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87wr64tmih.fsf@altern.org> References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> <87k424rdll.fsf@altern.org> <87398slpdu.fsf@altern.org> <87wr64tmih.fsf@altern.org> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:59:46 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 23:59, Bastien wrote: > Lennart Borgman writes: > >> :-) =C2=A0-- This kind of humourness is hard on the internet. I am glad >> when it is seen as humour. > > I see it as such. =C2=A0But I still don't understand why we should use > > (defalias 'make-local-hook 'identity) > > instead of > > (defalias 'make-local-hook 'ignore) > > Life is full of mysteries, that's alright. Just to be backward compatible, or? From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Lennart Borgman Cc: 11104@debbugs.gnu.org, Andreas Schwab , Leo Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.13330069304400 (code B ref 11104); Thu, 29 Mar 2012 07:43:01 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2012 07:42:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44018 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SD9zk-00018t-JY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 03:42:10 -0400 Received: from mail-ee0-f44.google.com ([74.125.83.44]:50937) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SD9zS-00018F-Ko for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 03:42:06 -0400 Received: by eeke51 with SMTP id e51so840563eek.3 for <11104@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:10:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:organization:references :user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BOVbyQhZbBZaEk6MBzVZBrxEyAJKolReK8ikSH1LRfg=; b=esuS9qexwO2zSEwo5/1SBPGgtKJhq7ureM91lELnVuFMIkJ/ThUZVGV52cn2jlU9VI lDAHLvCPi9H8N8g9C9fEGfgrd7cy44U9a22qANAsJ7Uxy8Ei/NEuwAV8VUQRgmUiuUPC GI8x/ZeiVzXEMFBum5gw6RhVN+tTn9xGxoaYviDzHbu+j53E9E8Gd7ExOiMkQuf+S5it WHsFgWg/D8/mxNKkxrqq6DcmtVnbB+zdVn/a6U1v0VuIGdoAcC2xB1ulbxusnkUVV5Pw ojfOuTYg2Y1BLXelGjSBspCegXNP1fGKHn1vpboL0kHb0MQ5G0Fd3SF0AUw4OI6t8PZY G/cQ== Received: by 10.14.187.134 with SMTP id y6mr1274203eem.44.1333005023139; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhost.localdomain (pha75-11-82-236-86-204.fbx.proxad.net. [82.236.86.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r44sm18672831eef.2.2012.03.29.00.10.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 29 Mar 2012 00:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EEEC2856E; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:11:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:59:46 +0200") Organization: None References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> <87k424rdll.fsf@altern.org> <87398slpdu.fsf@altern.org> <87wr64tmih.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:11:38 +0200 Message-ID: <87obrfubit.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Lennart Borgman writes: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 23:59, Bastien wrote: >> Lennart Borgman writes: >> >>> :-)  -- This kind of humourness is hard on the internet. I am glad >>> when it is seen as humour. >> >> I see it as such.  But I still don't understand why we should use >> >> (defalias 'make-local-hook 'identity) >> >> instead of >> >> (defalias 'make-local-hook 'ignore) >> >> Life is full of mysteries, that's alright. > > Just to be backward compatible, or? Yes. The `gnus-make-local-hook' uses the 'ignore function for its backward-compatibility function. The Sphinx said we should use 'identity for the defalias. So I'm a bit loss. But that's okay, I can live with it. -- Bastien From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Bastien Cc: Andreas Schwab , Lennart Borgman , Leo , 11104@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.13330273379564 (code B ref 11104); Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2012 13:22:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44216 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDFIu-0002U7-EK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:22:17 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:30252) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDFIf-0002TJ-4i for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:22:15 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicFAKU/KE9MCqRV/2dsb2JhbACBX5x7eYhwnhmDFYMEBJsZhAk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,1,1325480400"; d="scan'208";a="170559754" Received: from 76-10-164-85.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.164.85]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 29 Mar 2012 08:50:33 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3643159437; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:50:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> <87k424rdll.fsf@altern.org> <87398slpdu.fsf@altern.org> <87wr64tmih.fsf@altern.org> <87obrfubit.fsf@altern.org> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:50:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87obrfubit.fsf@altern.org> (Bastien's message of "Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:11:38 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > Yes. The `gnus-make-local-hook' uses the 'ignore function for its > backward-compatibility function. The Sphinx said we should use > 'identity for the defalias. So I'm a bit loss. But that's okay, > I can live with it. To be backward compatible, a redefinition of make-local-hook should use `identity' so as to return the same value as the old definition did. For gnus-make-local-hook that's not necessary because Gnus's code doesn't use the return value of make-local-hook. Stefan From unknown Sat Aug 16 16:21:44 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11104: 24.0.94; (void-function make-local-hook): Update NEWS maybe? Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 08:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11104 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Stefan Monnier Cc: Andreas Schwab , Lennart Borgman , Leo , 11104@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11104-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11104.133352817810953 (code B ref 11104); Wed, 04 Apr 2012 08:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 11104) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2012 08:29:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38944 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SFLb0-0002qa-7D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:29:38 -0400 Received: from incoming2.cnam.fr ([163.173.128.34]:36219) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SFLax-0002qQ-4b for 11104@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Apr 2012 04:29:37 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgwKANIDfE+jrT4T/2dsb2JhbAA8CbcMA4ELgQeCCQEBBAF5EAsNFCUPAQQYMRMah2oEuX2LCj+FCwSOAodhhhKKHoJp X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,367,1330902000"; d="scan'208";a="30437572" Received: from unknown (HELO myhost.localdomain) ([163.173.62.19]) by outgoing2.cnam.fr with ESMTP; 04 Apr 2012 10:29:07 +0200 Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DBF66856E; Wed, 4 Apr 2012 10:30:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:50:33 -0400") References: <81zkb1kera.fsf@gmail.com> <87ehsdbyo0.fsf@altern.org> <9D2CF145175B4F5090DA2D7094775259@us.oracle.com> <87iphosvzy.fsf@altern.org> <87k424rdll.fsf@altern.org> <87398slpdu.fsf@altern.org> <87wr64tmih.fsf@altern.org> <87obrfubit.fsf@altern.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 10:30:24 +0200 Message-ID: <87pqbnrja7.fsf@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Stefan Monnier writes: >> Yes. The `gnus-make-local-hook' uses the 'ignore function for its >> backward-compatibility function. The Sphinx said we should use >> 'identity for the defalias. So I'm a bit loss. But that's okay, >> I can live with it. > > To be backward compatible, a redefinition of make-local-hook should use > `identity' so as to return the same value as the old definition did. > For gnus-make-local-hook that's not necessary because Gnus's code > doesn't use the return value of make-local-hook. Got it, thanks. -- Bastien