From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:01:38 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#11103 <11103@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#11103 <11103@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") Reply-To: bug#11103 <11103@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 04:01:38 +0000 retitle 11103 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") reassign 11103 emacs submitter 11103 Jambunathan K severity 11103 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 27 15:32:23 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2012 19:32:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41609 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCc7x-0005do-Mi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:32:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50525) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCc7u-0005dg-KJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:32:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCbdY-00008V-0W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:01:01 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:57424) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCbdX-00008P-Qd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:00:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50316) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCbdR-0000zf-IC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:00:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCbdM-00006F-8i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:00:48 -0400 Received: from mail-gx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.161.169]:34092) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCbdM-00005y-0F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:00:44 -0400 Received: by ggeq1 with SMTP id q1so285354gge.0 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:00:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=M3QzIKLtBO4yJTnadZJ694igyGZXyVfoPpf+9pLGSUo=; b=H8xErzMnAbyNEoK+nFcEM40Evt0xpJRrlUElUF76I8DcgE82w20lSaLmELdsz6ulNe lumOsgAtL8qM5sqjJbHfCaAWZPXyyxko0VnivzIGSRa1HwxXry9iO9F/p6UUr4LtJ4WS E4EcHv9nVY2+qNpRkJHnU7wimjWL+4ZWuElsFg2IV5IW5vZCq7SEmE8b4dhOJix75ngw vUXeJRzYmo8kamOJc2ePFdFF5cUZeaL4+nEvFFPG8yqGG/VvLFWNtKYUu7yjv+Hk+INu u7QCzs1Ue6krQ1/n6jOF47FCnOSvUSIX+6vmcUHZbrKSnCScCITcNfKuUh1mgUxZ4UxQ wx3Q== Received: by 10.68.74.97 with SMTP id s1mr64798538pbv.46.1332874841111; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JAMBU-NETBOOK ([101.63.253.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b1sm896875pbm.68.2012.03.27.12.00.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:00:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jambunathan K To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:30:28 +0530 Message-ID: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) ;; Choose Devanagari C-x RET l D e v ;; toggle input method C-\ Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") signal(error ("Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'")) error("Can't activate input method `%s'" "dev-aiba") activate-input-method("dev-aiba") toggle-input-method(nil 1) call-interactively(toggle-input-method nil nil) In GNU Emacs 24.0.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-03-19 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENG value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 27 17:11:54 2012 Received: (at 11103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Mar 2012 21:11:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41712 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCdgH-0001A0-Gq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:11:54 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:60365) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SCdg1-00019b-KV for 11103@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:11:52 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SCdBi-0005ta-T2; Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:40:18 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Jambunathan K Subject: Re: bug#11103: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") References: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: USDOJ Chobetsu military ANDVT Rand Corporation strategic X-Ran: m[+4w@h#3;NcLY{e|STS`|0s%tYa?r-'z2A|YMy,QQX2O4]es)]9!!(x,d][yh*1F5@<4< X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:40:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2012 00:30:28 +0530") Message-ID: <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11103 Cc: 11103@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Please try this: *** lisp/language/indian.el 2012-01-19 07:21:25 +0000 --- lisp/language/indian.el 2012-03-27 20:35:25 +0000 *************** *** 46,52 **** "Devanagari" '((charset unicode) (coding-system utf-8) (coding-priority utf-8) ! (input-method . "dev-aiba") (documentation . "\ Such languages using Devanagari script as Hindi and Marathi are supported in this language environment.")) --- 46,52 ---- "Devanagari" '((charset unicode) (coding-system utf-8) (coding-priority utf-8) ! (input-method . "devanagari-aiba") (documentation . "\ Such languages using Devanagari script as Hindi and Marathi are supported in this language environment.")) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 30 14:41:33 2012 Received: (at 11103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2012 18:41:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47336 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDglR-0001vR-I2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:41:33 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:60012) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDglP-0001vK-Up for 11103@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:41:32 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SDgGq-0003dA-IS; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:09:56 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Jambunathan K Subject: Re: bug#11103: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") References: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spook: CISU Capricorn CDC radar cryptographic Abbas [Hello to X-Ran: ^~}`4jjg-OOVeH`nu*C)1ZlP?zo~=BB>!,4z'@xmp&;8LUj&<0EsaA%rxV~jH:5~Q":D*V X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:09:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:40:18 -0400") Message-ID: <80bone3qq3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11103 Cc: 11103@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) BTW, though that fix seems obviously correct to me, I won't commit it unless someone who actually uses Indian input methods tests it. For all I know, something somewhere else assumes "dev-aiba". (It's broken all the way back to Emacs 22.1.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 30 14:47:25 2012 Received: (at 11103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2012 18:47:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59671 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDgr6-0001Bu-DA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:47:25 -0400 Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]:65405) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDgr4-0001Bg-9u for 11103@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:47:23 -0400 Received: by iazz13 with SMTP id z13so1266227iaz.3 for <11103@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:47:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Aw1//ifEvEPze89R5ZIX5oubL3CsBTSap7l+rUJY1jM=; b=fCmVHTsZBoSKTDnJACjEMaw2hAFQLeAwV/q6pme481fKkSXTr5ZoAX3+LzL2GjeoCI MiR8iSoh5XlctSUlv+hvr1uUlPh+9b6qjNNI13kBZNUMcqe+X+QsdRBiGkqokwaXzxRK AYM0VoKj1zQ1vslwTdgJmhBLmEoShkq/YtZLrJ6qcpfOIfXYXZMvsnIy53o/nz6se6J7 vsD4YIrGIeP1mV7pqRHRu7oTPhifrgn7wTf1luGtLqoiyF4fNrSOICMA5JQqSHh9o0fg gu8LpwJ4Vk3n+N9jmMHqnz47/M6KaUdhQADP9PczDVOzAgYKqIhT6Y+YTcK/fgFK5n3y oA7A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.212.97 with SMTP id nj1mr132895igc.65.1333133236221; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.102.34 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:47:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <80bone3qq3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <80bone3qq3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 00:17:16 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#11103: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") From: Jambunathan K To: Glenn Morris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11103 Cc: Rustom Mody , 11103@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On 3/30/12, Glenn Morris wrote: > > BTW, though that fix seems obviously correct to me, I won't commit it > unless someone who actually uses Indian input methods tests it. > For all I know, something somewhere else assumes "dev-aiba". > (It's broken all the way back to Emacs 22.1.) > Glenn (Refer http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11103) I am copying Rustom who has more understanding of devanagari. He can suggest the default input method to go with that particular language environment and also test your earlier patch. C-h L Devanagari actually gives the following output Devanagari language environment Such languages using Devanagari script as Hindi and Marathi are supported in this language environment. Input methods: devanagari-inscript ("DevIS" in mode line) devanagari-aiba ("DevAB" in mode line) devanagari-kyoto-harvard ("DevKH" in mode line) devanagari-itrans ("DevIT" in mode line) Character sets: unicode: Unicode (ISO10646) Coding systems: utf-8 (`U' in mode line): UTF-8 (no signature (BOM)) (alias: utf-8 mule-utf-8) [back] My 2 cents will be that the current defaults of devanagari-aiba need to be changed to devanagari-itrans. I don't speak the language that uses devanagari script. Jambunathan K. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 31 02:09:58 2012 Received: (at 11103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2012 06:09:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60023 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDrVd-0000vz-Nd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 02:09:58 -0400 Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]:34813) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDrVa-0000vr-Rr for 11103@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 02:09:56 -0400 Received: by iazz13 with SMTP id z13so1780884iaz.3 for <11103@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:09:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=FzBmdyiWg56ju8uizSvtDbrbjlgjaUyzY5Yn4JjbbEA=; b=YSoMJWiXEAjh23YbyYoBHzFJPPbePq9ZRMpTUO7PRCO8FbaWZKOIrdQP+9l8mAJew2 NbN+8vRieLVrzkH2M6HKP8+f5WkXa7OwSmypo3gP48BNwPuDIrG7DUHx95iVr9SJUlHQ smyzjCjj8v8ne6hu6NyCdxBXzj7hx6iw8EU8geqzcqElmJN/LDbpyFy34f3u/1pGPkEn XbokMr0bosNGE8+7iEM6kzjBYmCKjwPbfAXx1HrPHTjBR7jvabt0Ta0v/dog+ocI8bq8 YeIA2rFVbGTuNyNhn1DCU3rRjMC0zAXvMomdEbVt5agyt/55YrpL5pNobDZU1LwMaStf twsQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.156.166 with SMTP id wf6mr674570igb.31.1333174191289; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.23.208 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 23:09:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <80bone3qq3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:39:51 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#11103: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") From: Rustom Mody To: Jambunathan K Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3bafbb1873ad04bc83ce96 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11103 Cc: Glenn Morris , 11103@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) --e89a8f3bafbb1873ad04bc83ce96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry I dont get the context. On my emacs 23.3.1 I can activate devanagari-aiba input method. Is there something else you want me to check? I dont know this input method (and google does not help) but looking at describe-input-method and trying out a bit it seems very close (identical??) to itrans. On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jambunathan K wrote: > On 3/30/12, Glenn Morris wrote: > > > > BTW, though that fix seems obviously correct to me, I won't commit it > > unless someone who actually uses Indian input methods tests it. > > For all I know, something somewhere else assumes "dev-aiba". > > (It's broken all the way back to Emacs 22.1.) > > > > Glenn > > (Refer http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=11103) > > I am copying Rustom who has more understanding of devanagari. He can > suggest the default input method to go with that particular language > environment and also test your earlier patch. > > C-h L Devanagari actually gives the following output > > Devanagari language environment > > Such languages using Devanagari script as Hindi and Marathi > are supported in this language environment. > > Input methods: > devanagari-inscript ("DevIS" in mode line) > devanagari-aiba ("DevAB" in mode line) > devanagari-kyoto-harvard ("DevKH" in mode line) > devanagari-itrans ("DevIT" in mode line) > > Character sets: > unicode: Unicode (ISO10646) > > Coding systems: > utf-8 (`U' in mode line): > UTF-8 (no signature (BOM)) > (alias: utf-8 mule-utf-8) > > [back] > > My 2 cents will be that the current defaults of devanagari-aiba need > to be changed to devanagari-itrans. I don't speak the language that > uses devanagari script. > > Jambunathan K. > --e89a8f3bafbb1873ad04bc83ce96 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry I dont get the context.
On my emacs 23.3.1 I can activate devanaga= ri-aiba input method.
Is there something else you want me to check?
I= dont know this input method (and google does not help) but looking at desc= ribe-input-method and trying out a bit it seems very close (identical??) to= itrans.

On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Jambunatha= n K <kjambun= athan@gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/30/12, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org= > wrote:
>
> BTW, though that fix seems obviously correct to me, I won't commit= it
> unless someone who actually uses Indian input methods tests it.
> For all I know, something somewhere else assumes "dev-aiba".=
> (It's broken all the way back to Emacs 22.1.)
>

Glenn

(Refer http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D11103)
I am copying Rustom who has more understanding of devanagari. He can
suggest the default input method to go with that particular language
environment and also test your earlier patch.

C-h L Devanagari actually gives the following output

Devanagari language environment

Such languages using Devanagari script as Hindi and Marathi
are supported in this language environment.

Input methods:
=A0devanagari-inscript ("DevIS" in mode line)
=A0devanagari-aiba ("DevAB" in mode line)
=A0devanagari-kyoto-harvard ("DevKH" in mode line)
=A0devanagari-itrans ("DevIT" in mode line)

Character sets:
=A0unicode: Unicode (ISO10646)

Coding systems:
=A0utf-8 (`U' in mode line):
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0UTF-8 (no signature (BOM))
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0(alias: utf-8 mule-utf-8)

[back]

My 2 cents will be that the current defaults of devanagari-aiba need
to be changed to devanagari-itrans. I don't speak the language that
uses devanagari script.

Jambunathan K.

--e89a8f3bafbb1873ad04bc83ce96-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 31 03:59:04 2012 Received: (at 11103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2012 07:59:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60038 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDtDE-0003UN-1G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:59:04 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com ([209.85.160.44]:55811) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDtDB-0003Tw-E8 for 11103@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:59:02 -0400 Received: by pbbrq13 with SMTP id rq13so2422649pbb.3 for <11103@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 00:58:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=bNKUIaWV2yXm2BqjxX0k/Zp224xDwUeG8AKkLdXwECI=; b=yCTfAvuaZt329P657A0hze48vzqV5WkdbOWTFljpVKyGnEVgzw+7OT7NiqE9WWY0kd /PqGDH8/W94Va4Vn3DONiwyOgMzIsKfhFQxzOs1nuwvoWOIT+jAPi2sEbmACXSC/WZSQ 3ytjzNWxJXvE+MDsKcDr99VLm7yWzm2n54M/8PVbOVd3ycHH/1WmtGHUC8TfoFLqCd7b V5mqc8gnb5/yTKbcJqKy6s/XCeyK3SY6q46mmI/D/tP3UYBGrMshGYM0Q+onndSQw8Kc Vytfp8BmNHt6se4TjOpcGdjzJ64/sczwguZDq7tIEduN3t6Bm4wI7DEd7dP7QTmiABm6 rZ0Q== Received: by 10.68.195.3 with SMTP id ia3mr3935116pbc.20.1333180737198; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 00:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JAMBU-NETBOOK ([101.63.204.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v9sm1352516pbn.17.2012.03.31.00.58.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 31 Mar 2012 00:58:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jambunathan K To: Rustom Mody Subject: Re: bug#11103: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") References: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <80bone3qq3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:28:44 +0530 In-Reply-To: (Rustom Mody's message of "Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:39:51 +0530") Message-ID: <811uo9jj63.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11103 Cc: Glenn Morris , 11103@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glenn You can ignore this mail, if you want. Rustom, Here is the context - > Sorry I dont get the context. > On my emacs 23.3.1 I can activate devanagari-aiba input method. > Is there something else you want me to check? Are you activating the input method like this -=20 1. C-x C-m l Devanagari 2. C-\ Do you see a crash like this - Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba= '") signal(error ("Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'")) error("Can't activate input method `%s'" "dev-aiba") activate-input-method("dev-aiba") toggle-input-method(nil 1) call-interactively(toggle-input-method nil nil) > I dont know this input method (and google does not help)=20 See [1]. They apparently has something to do with diacritic marks (whatever that means). > but looking at describe-input-method and trying out a bit it seems > very close (identical??) to itrans. See [2]. The table that compares two methods and is attached here for future reference. There are 12 entries in that table where the aiba and itrans input methods differ. I was wondering, as someone who is more familiar with Devanagari which of these would you prefer as the input method. If you think that you have no particular opinion, I think we can leave the defaults as such. Here is an entry for SHA. ,---- DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA with devanagari-itrans is mapped to "sha" | position: 9395 of 15548 (60%), column: 31 | character: =E0=A4=B6 (displayed as =E0=A4=B6) (codepoint 2358= , #o4466, #x936) | preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) | code point in charset: 0x0936 | syntax: w which means: word | category: .:Base, L:Left-to-right (strong), i:Indian | to input: type "sha" with devanagari-itrans | buffer code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 | file code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 (encoded by coding system utf-8-dos) | display: by this font (glyph code) | uniscribe:-outline-Mangal-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-*-*-p-*-iso1064= 6-1 (#x9E) |=20 | Character code properties: customize what to show | name: DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA | general-category: Lo (Letter, Other) | decomposition: (2358) ('=E0=A4=B6') |=20 | [back] `---- ,---- DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA with devanagari-itrans is mapped to "^sa" | position: 2855 of 5721 (50%), column: 22 | character: =E0=A4=B6 (displayed as =E0=A4=B6) (codepoint 2358= , #o4466, #x936) | preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) | code point in charset: 0x0936 | syntax: w which means: word | category: .:Base, L:Left-to-right (strong), i:Indian | to input: type "^sa" with devanagari-aiba | buffer code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 | file code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 (encoded by coding system utf-8-dos) | display: by this font (glyph code) | uniscribe:-outline-Mangal-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-*-*-p-*-iso1064= 6-1 (#x9E) |=20 | Character code properties: customize what to show | name: DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA | general-category: Lo (Letter, Other) | decomposition: (2358) ('=E0=A4=B6') |=20 | [back] `---- Footnotes:=20 [1] http://texa.human.is.tohoku.ac.jp/aiba/codes/table/draft/r02/html/ Document has following particulars. ,----=20 | Word Processing in Tibetan and Sanskrit | Toru AIBA |=20 | Graduate School of Information Sciences, Tohoku University | March 2000 |=20 | Handout for my presentation at "Fourth International Symposium on | Multilingual 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([101.63.204.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x1sm9249601pbp.50.2012.03.31.01.46.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 31 Mar 2012 01:46:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jambunathan K To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#11103: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") References: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:16:32 +0530 In-Reply-To: <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:40:18 -0400") Message-ID: <811uo9rwd3.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11103 Cc: 11103@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) I applied this patch. I continue to get the orignal crash. Quick look suggests that language-info-alist (right after emacs -Q and no intervening commands) continues to refer to "dev-aiba". As a result when I do, C-x C-m l Devanagari, the `default-input-method' picked up is "dev-aiba". This results in a crash when I do C-\ Log: ==== (pp-eval-expression (quote language-info-alist)) => --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- ("Devanagari" (documentation . "Such languages using Devanagari script as Hindi and Marathi\nare supported in this language environment.") (input-method . "dev-aiba") (coding-priority utf-8) (coding-system utf-8) (charset unicode)) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- (set-language-environment "Devanagari") (eval-expression (quote default-input-method) nil) => "dev-aiba" > Please try this: > > *** lisp/language/indian.el 2012-01-19 07:21:25 +0000 > --- lisp/language/indian.el 2012-03-27 20:35:25 +0000 > *************** > *** 46,52 **** > "Devanagari" '((charset unicode) > (coding-system utf-8) > (coding-priority utf-8) > ! (input-method . "dev-aiba") > (documentation . "\ > Such languages using Devanagari script as Hindi and Marathi > are supported in this language environment.")) > --- 46,52 ---- > "Devanagari" '((charset unicode) > (coding-system utf-8) > (coding-priority utf-8) > ! (input-method . "devanagari-aiba") > (documentation . "\ > Such languages using Devanagari script as Hindi and Marathi > are supported in this language environment.")) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 31 06:37:19 2012 Received: (at 11103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2012 10:37:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60136 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDvgL-0007IR-EY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:37:18 -0400 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:55995) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDvgG-0007Hk-BY for 11103@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 06:37:16 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M1Q00C00W2EIS00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 11103@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:37:01 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.100.223]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M1Q00BKLW5OSEJ0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:37:01 +0300 (IDT) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:37:03 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#11103: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") In-reply-to: <811uo9rwd3.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Jambunathan K Message-id: <83obrdjbu8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <811uo9rwd3.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11103 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 11103@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Jambunathan K > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:16:32 +0530 > Cc: 11103@debbugs.gnu.org > > > I applied this patch. > > I continue to get the orignal crash. > > Quick look suggests that language-info-alist (right after emacs -Q and > no intervening commands) continues to refer to "dev-aiba". > > As a result when I do, C-x C-m l Devanagari, the `default-input-method' > picked up is "dev-aiba". > > This results in a crash when I do C-\ Please don't call "a crash" something that is merely an error. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 31 10:31:19 2012 Received: (at 11103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2012 14:31:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32895 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDzKo-0005Mw-4d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:31:18 -0400 Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]:51838) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SDzKY-0005MS-7C for 11103@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:31:16 -0400 Received: by iazz13 with SMTP id z13so2064550iaz.3 for <11103@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 07:30:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lQ+nqt00Gej9Fa/h2QeseCMhg/rUiKDkAbDIQBaH2g8=; b=vfD4Tcf67pf/MnCF+Aym47z+cNODQLgNDjEiOZUWu6/05cRiHkQVs0A6aR9mbux1Va yS8ykMZnoU2NVnFOzxNVY19sA7Oxc0Skty4M7dtJt7Ghc31RFFkL7NmB/os8y1/FgZS6 w6xjKoN+WATmZfP87Y3EWdZ3Onie2SBqli7go+zRpyKF2KW0qQ4lGXbtbBIidPhHk+PK R1zsdkBaTvuFFqPqtPw2hDqNXj6vAkJUnefqSSUzMeuG4FJhYecE3KWiLkbK+9Y/KHcb 75r6qrgVx7Jp8OLw2IWxJhIXVka20vo9cla7POK9dGsXC0LXfmElN+SV6+n4I9hX5kFm 4mtA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.94.200 with SMTP id de8mr1518324igb.21.1333204256372; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 07:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.23.208 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 07:30:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <811uo9jj63.fsf@gmail.com> References: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <80bone3qq3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <811uo9jj63.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:00:56 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#11103: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") From: Rustom Mody To: Jambunathan K Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f234bed1d36d904bc8acebf X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11103 Cc: Glenn Morris , 11103@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) --e89a8f234bed1d36d904bc8acebf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Jambunathan K wrot= e: > > Glenn > > You can ignore this mail, if you want. > > Rustom, > > Here is the context - > > > Sorry I dont get the context. > > On my emacs 23.3.1 I can activate devanagari-aiba input method. > > Is there something else you want me to check? > > Are you activating the input method like this - > > 1. C-x C-m l Devanagari > 2. C-\ > > Do you see a crash like this - > If I do it like you say I only see Can't activate input method `dev-aiba' No backtrace. If I do what I usually do ie C-x RET C-\ and then give devanagari-aiba (not dev-aiba) it seems to work for me My preferences later (I'll look more carefully at both) Rusi > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Can't activate input method > `dev-aiba'") > signal(error ("Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'")) > error("Can't activate input method `%s'" "dev-aiba") > activate-input-method("dev-aiba") > toggle-input-method(nil 1) > call-interactively(toggle-input-method nil nil) > > > I dont know this input method (and google does not help) > > See [1]. They apparently has something to do with diacritic marks > (whatever that means). > > > but looking at describe-input-method and trying out a bit it seems > > very close (identical??) to itrans. > > See [2]. The table that compares two methods and is attached here for > future reference. There are 12 entries in that table where the aiba and > itrans input methods differ. > > I was wondering, as someone who is more familiar with Devanagari which > of these would you prefer as the input method. If you think that you > have no particular opinion, I think we can leave the defaults as such. > > Here is an entry for SHA. > > ,---- DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA with devanagari-itrans is mapped to "sha" > | position: 9395 of 15548 (60%), column: 31 > | character: =E0=A4=B6 (displayed as =E0=A4=B6) (codepoint 23= 58, #o4466, #x936) > | preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) > | code point in charset: 0x0936 > | syntax: w which means: word > | category: .:Base, L:Left-to-right (strong), i:Indian > | to input: type "sha" with devanagari-itrans > | buffer code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 > | file code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 (encoded by coding system > utf-8-dos) > | display: by this font (glyph code) > | > uniscribe:-outline-Mangal-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-*-*-p-*-iso10646-1 > (#x9E) > | > | Character code properties: customize what to show > | name: DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA > | general-category: Lo (Letter, Other) > | decomposition: (2358) ('=E0=A4=B6') > | > | [back] > `---- > > ,---- DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA with devanagari-itrans is mapped to "^sa" > | position: 2855 of 5721 (50%), column: 22 > | character: =E0=A4=B6 (displayed as =E0=A4=B6) (codepoint 23= 58, #o4466, #x936) > | preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) > | code point in charset: 0x0936 > | syntax: w which means: word > | category: .:Base, L:Left-to-right (strong), i:Indian > | to input: type "^sa" with devanagari-aiba > | buffer code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 > | file code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 (encoded by coding system > utf-8-dos) > | display: by this font (glyph code) > | > uniscribe:-outline-Mangal-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-*-*-p-*-iso10646-1 > (#x9E) > | > | Character code properties: customize what to show > | name: DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA > | general-category: Lo (Letter, Other) > | decomposition: (2358) ('=E0=A4=B6') > | > | [back] > `---- > > Footnotes: > > [1] http://texa.human.is.tohoku.ac.jp/aiba/codes/table/draft/r02/html/ > > Document has following particulars. > > ,---- > | Word Processing in Tibetan and Sanskrit > | Toru AIBA > | > | Graduate School of Information Sciences, Tohoku University > | March 2000 > | > | Handout for my presentation at "Fourth International Symposium on > | Multilingual Information Processing" at Tsukuba in March 26, 2000. > `---- > > [2] Image captioned "Table 3: Transliteration Schemes in Sanskrit > (Substitutional)", > > --e89a8f234bed1d36d904bc8acebf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Jambuna= than K <kjam= bunathan@gmail.com> wrote:

Glenn

You can ignore this mail, if you want.

Rustom,

Here is the context -

> Sorry I dont get the context.
> On my emacs 23.3.1 I can activate devanagari-aiba input method.
> Is there something else you want me to check?

Are you activating the input method like this -

1. C-x C-m l Devanagari
2. C-\

Do you see a crash like this -

If I do it like you= say I only see
Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'

<= br>No backtrace.

If I do what I usually do ie C-x RET C-\
and the= n give devanagari-aiba (not dev-aiba) it seems to work for me

My preferences later (I'll look more carefully at both)

Rusi=



Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Can't activate input method = `dev-aiba'")
=C2=A0signal(error ("Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'&q= uot;))
=C2=A0error("Can't activate input method `%s'" "dev= -aiba")
=C2=A0activate-input-method("dev-aiba")
=C2=A0toggle-input-method(nil 1)
=C2=A0call-interactively(toggle-input-method nil nil)

> I dont know this input method (and google does not help)

See [1]. They apparently has something to do with diacritic marks
(whatever that means).

> but looking at describe-input-method and trying out a bit it seems
> very close (identical??) to itrans.

See [2]. =C2=A0The table that compares two methods and is attached he= re for
future reference. =C2=A0There are 12 entries in that table where the aiba a= nd
itrans input methods differ.

I was wondering, as someone who is more familiar with Devanagari which
of these would you prefer as the input method. =C2=A0If you think that you<= br> have no particular opinion, I think we can leave the defaults as such.

Here is an entry for SHA.

,---- DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA with devanagari-itrans is mapped to "sha&q= uot;
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0position: 9395 of 15548 (= 60%), column: 31
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 character: =E0=A4=B6 (displayed= as =E0=A4=B6) (codepoint 2358, #o4466, #x936)
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
| code point in charset: 0x0936
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0syntax: w =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0which means: word
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0category: .:Base, L:Left-= to-right (strong), i:Indian
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to input: type "sha&= quot; with devanagari-itrans
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 buffer code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 file code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 (enco= ded by coding system utf-8-dos)
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 display: by this font (g= lyph code)
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 uniscribe:-outline-Mangal-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-*-*-p= -*-iso10646-1 (#x9E)
|
| Character code properties: customize what to show
| =C2=A0 name: DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA
| =C2=A0 general-category: Lo (Letter, Other)
| =C2=A0 decomposition: (2358) ('=E0=A4=B6')
|
| [back]
`----

,---- DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA with devanagari-itrans is mapped to "^sa&q= uot;
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0position: 2855 of 5721 (5= 0%), column: 22
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 character: =E0=A4=B6 (displayed= as =E0=A4=B6) (codepoint 2358, #o4466, #x936)
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
| code point in charset: 0x0936
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0syntax: w =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0which means: word
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0category: .:Base, L:Left-= to-right (strong), i:Indian
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to input: type "^sa&= quot; with devanagari-aiba
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 buffer code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 file code: #xE0 #xA4 #xB6 (enco= ded by coding system utf-8-dos)
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 display: by this font (g= lyph code)
| =C2=A0 =C2=A0 uniscribe:-outline-Mangal-normal-normal-normal-*-20-*-*-*-p= -*-iso10646-1 (#x9E)
|
| Character code properties: customize what to show
| =C2=A0 name: DEVANAGARI LETTER SHA
| =C2=A0 general-category: Lo (Letter, Other)
| =C2=A0 decomposition: (2358) ('=E0=A4=B6')
|
| [back]
`----

Footnotes:

[1] http://texa.human.is.tohoku.ac.jp/aiba/codes/tabl= e/draft/r02/html/

Document has following particulars.

,----
| Word Processing in Tibetan and Sanskrit
| Toru AIBA
|
| Graduate School of Information Sciences, Tohoku University
| March 2000
|
| Handout for my presentation at "Fourth International Symposium on | Multilingual Information Processing" at Tsukuba in March 26, 2000. `----

[2] Image captioned "Table 3: Transliteration Schemes in Sanskrit
(Substitutional)",


--e89a8f234bed1d36d904bc8acebf-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 31 14:15:49 2012 Received: (at 11103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2012 18:15:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33188 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SE2q4-0002IK-Sy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:15:49 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:59136) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SE2q3-0002ID-1h for 11103@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:15:47 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SE2pu-0005jF-OQ; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:15:38 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Jambunathan K Subject: Re: bug#11103: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") References: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <811uo9rwd3.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: Capricorn BRLO pipeline Compsec MILSATCOM MIT-LL Israel X-Ran: 7K?@d7kj~r>z5rN4U<1=Ey|SE1/cn%A$xk{"\T_WNht~$"> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:16:32 +0530") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11103 Cc: 11103@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Jambunathan K wrote: > I continue to get the orignal crash. I echo the comments about this not being a crash. > Quick look suggests that language-info-alist (right after emacs -Q and > no intervening commands) continues to refer to "dev-aiba". Mine doesn't. You need to rebuild Emacs to pick up the change. Did you do that? You need to get leim-list.el regenerated. I don't know the minimum steps needed for that, so, as always, I suggest bootstrapping. > As a result when I do, C-x C-m l Devanagari, the `default-input-method' > picked up is "dev-aiba". I get devanagari-aiba. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 31 15:26:41 2012 Received: (at 11103) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2012 19:26:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33233 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SE3wf-0003ym-3s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:26:41 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f42.google.com ([209.85.210.42]:61491) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SE3wc-0003yd-PX for 11103@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:26:39 -0400 Received: by dang27 with SMTP id g27so1055204dan.29 for <11103@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:26:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=lnFkONc/sFjDd+g2wpig8SDmCk1jo0PeZe4LV1GMtLM=; b=pkPOdpFPhujbMhVBeEflokDnT+N/kxDzu7wgTLbBP/2UcItyYO6mEb2ja4atlFoQTl gCQEBDIgqnEKzgwxtpTovByGNGY6vFeK7d3dO9n2n7FLhRV3trv3vV7xOJAf4pRteany Jd3Z0JAfN4MskJmCZ4tXfDb68YAIABL7dtQF8ZerJ1kSwEPNLzssEZjJ4BMHA38SnAu1 9IvY1zRFI9lmTW2ZLYF5vxehvqA0pwdkYf5TymNxIOW3yBEYuOrTrLEFWMNdB1mMIf3Z UXOtlxZS1L+cbcvQPeTUDoq9ttw7bbk24E3v7Yvwms8pAYCt71axL+u56hXj7vMqgp4r WZCQ== Received: by 10.68.216.98 with SMTP id op2mr7816389pbc.93.1333221991968; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JAMBU-NETBOOK ([115.241.46.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v9sm2410866pbn.17.2012.03.31.12.26.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:26:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jambunathan K To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#11103: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") References: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <811uo9rwd3.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 00:56:22 +0530 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:15:38 -0400") Message-ID: <817gy0inc1.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11103 Cc: 11103@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) >> Quick look suggests that language-info-alist (right after emacs -Q and >> no intervening commands) continues to refer to "dev-aiba". > > Mine doesn't. Ok. > You need to rebuild Emacs to pick up the change. Did you do that? No. I wasn't aware of it. It's all new to me. > You need to get leim-list.el regenerated. I don't know the minimum > steps needed for that, so, as always, I suggest bootstrapping. I rely only on binaries. I have not built Emacs at all and I don't want to build one. >> As a result when I do, C-x C-m l Devanagari, the `default-input-method' >> picked up is "dev-aiba". > > I get devanagari-aiba. Check your fix in. Once Christopher Scholtes makes available a new binary build, I will update the status of this bug. Meanwhile Rustom might have also made his opinion on whether he wants aiba or itrans by default. Jambunathan K. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 31 16:08:10 2012 Received: (at 11103-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2012 20:08:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33268 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SE4ao-0004yT-98 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:08:10 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:60494) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SE4ak-0004yL-LR for 11103-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:08:08 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SE4ad-0002lG-Gl; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:07:59 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 11103-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#11103: 24.0.94; (error "Can't activate input method `dev-aiba'") References: <81bonhlvhv.fsf@gmail.com> <0eehsdkcb1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <811uo9rwd3.fsf@gmail.com> <817gy0inc1.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: quarter digicash lock picking interception Fortezza X-Ran: /T%EVc<}UhFR)dq-IzQiK~Mq3-~z~rTp`L-;d?95k'~r`od4NXv4.lcrC;zCrqt}f!J:f~ X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:07:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: <817gy0inc1.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Sun, 01 Apr 2012 00:56:22 +0530") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11103-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.7 (-----) Version: 24.0.95 Fair enough, I checked it in. If you think there should be actual changes to the input method, I suggest making a new report with the details. Followup to this report if there turns out to be some problem with the fix for the input method not working at all. 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