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24.0.94; etc/HELLO error (or duplicate) for Dutch

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From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.0.94; etc/HELLO error (or duplicate) for Dutch
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 16:42:09 +0100

In etc/HELLO there are the two lines:

Dutch (Nederlands)	Hallo / Dag
Nederlands, Vlaams	Hallo / Dag

Since all other languages are named by their English designation,
the second entry should probably be named "Belgian Dutch (Vlaams)"
or "Flemish (Vlaams)".

OTOH, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Belgium#Dutch>
says that the language is officially called Dutch which would make
the line a duplicate.

Message #10 received at 11024-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: 11024-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11024: 24.0.94; etc/HELLO error (or duplicate) for Dutch
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:22:43 -0400

Version: 24.0.95

I removed the second one, since HELLO is more for demonstrating
character sets than providing a comprehensive list.

Message #13 received at 11024 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: rgm <at> gnu.org, 11024 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11024: 24.0.94; etc/HELLO error (or duplicate) for Dutch
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:46:59 +0200

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:22:43 -0400
> 
> Version: 24.0.95
> 
> I removed the second one, since HELLO is more for demonstrating
> character sets than providing a comprehensive list.

Are you sure?  The file itself says:

  This is a list of ways to say hello in various languages.

FWIW, I'd rather have duplication that start a national/language-pride
flamewar here.

Message #16 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Deniz Dogan <deniz <at> dogan.se>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11024: 24.0.94; etc/HELLO error (or duplicate) for Dutch
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:16:13 +0100

On 2012-03-17 08:46, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Glenn Morris<rgm <at> gnu.org>
>> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 19:22:43 -0400
>>
>> Version: 24.0.95
>>
>> I removed the second one, since HELLO is more for demonstrating
>> character sets than providing a comprehensive list.
>
> Are you sure?  The file itself says:
>
>    This is a list of ways to say hello in various languages.
>
> FWIW, I'd rather have duplication that start a national/language-pride
> flamewar here.
>

If it's just a list of ways to say hello in various languages and people 
are going to bikeshed about it, why not just remove it?

(I'm bikeshedding.)

Message #19 received at 11024 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 11024 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11024: 24.0.94; etc/HELLO error (or duplicate) for Dutch
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:23:14 +0100

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> FWIW, I'd rather have duplication that start a national/language-pride
> flamewar here.

Don't forget the religious flamewar (see the German entry).

Andreas.

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Message #22 received at 11024 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
Cc: rgm <at> gnu.org, 11024 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11024: 24.0.94; etc/HELLO error (or duplicate) for Dutch
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:56:33 +0200

> From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
> Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>,  11024 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 11:23:14 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > FWIW, I'd rather have duplication that start a national/language-pride
> > flamewar here.
> 
> Don't forget the religious flamewar (see the German entry).

Gott forbid!

Message #25 received at 11024 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: rgm <at> gnu.org
Cc: 11024 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#11024: 24.0.94; etc/HELLO error (or duplicate) for Dutch
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:58:29 +0200

> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:46:59 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: 11024 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> FWIW, I'd rather have duplication that start a national/language-pride
> flamewar here.                    ^^^^

I meant "than" there, obviously.

Sorry.

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