From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 15 12:45:46 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2012 16:45:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52255 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S8Do9-0001y8-AK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:45:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58295) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S8B5z-0004iB-TV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:52:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8Ack-0008O0-80 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:21:51 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:38742) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8Ack-0008Nq-4i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:21:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57738) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8Acf-0005z8-IA for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:21:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8AcL-0008JA-IZ for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:21:40 -0400 Received: from mail.hillenius.net ([178.63.187.164]:34549 helo=hillenius.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8AcL-0008H4-C9 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:21:21 -0400 Received: from [109.130.33.231] (helo=altiphrynoides.hillenius.net) by hillenius.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S8AcB-0000eH-Dc for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:21:11 +0100 From: Gijs Hillenius To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Subject: man page Tail : last -> most recent? Organization: Using Emacs' Org Mode X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux Sid X-Homepage: http://www.hillenius.net/ X-GPGP-Fingerprint: 0D0B 9C67 0520 3B27 A91C 369B 7154 1B0A 04CF 3929 Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:23:07 +0100 Message-ID: <87lin2nglg.fsf@hillenius.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:45:44 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Hello, I just happen to notice an extra space in the man page of tail between Print and the "Print the last 10 lines of each FILE to standard output" that is in the man page of the tail application included in Debian Linux. But, more importantly: I would write Print the most recent 10 lines of each FILE to standard output .... Kind greetings Gijs Hillenius -- Afternoon very favorable for romance. Try a single person for a change. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 15 14:57:36 2012 Received: (at 11020) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Mar 2012 18:57:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52344 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S8Frh-00051W-SQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:57:36 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:45502) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S8Fre-00051N-Rx for 11020@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:57:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F8DB39E8008; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:27:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vv5VMyW6KCe9; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from penguin.cs.ucla.edu (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD1A939E8006; Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F623488.5060305@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:27:20 -0700 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120209 Thunderbird/10.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gijs Hillenius Subject: Re: bug#11020: man page Tail : last -> most recent? References: <87lin2nglg.fsf@hillenius.net> In-Reply-To: <87lin2nglg.fsf@hillenius.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11020 Cc: 11020@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 03/15/2012 06:23 AM, Gijs Hillenius wrote: > I just happen to notice an extra space in the man page of tail between Thanks, but that's due to nroff justification to make the line lengths all the same; it's a property of how your man pages are formatting, not 'tail' per se, which means the proper change would be somewhere in the man-page macros not in coreutils proper. > I would write > > Print the most recent 10 lines of each FILE to standard output .... Hmm, why is "most recent" better than "last"? "Most recent" is a longer phrase, and technically, the lines most recently added to a file are not necessarily its last lines, so "most recent" is less technically accurate. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 16 04:52:21 2012 Received: (at 11020-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Mar 2012 08:52:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52957 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S8StZ-0002hN-3n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 04:52:21 -0400 Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:46080) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S8StN-0002h6-5O for 11020-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 04:52:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA9639E800C; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 01:21:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M8dxDcgJs5T1; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 01:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AE47039E8006; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 01:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F62F828.4080802@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 01:22:00 -0700 From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gijs Hillenius Subject: Re: bug#11020: man page Tail : last -> most recent? References: <87lin2nglg.fsf@hillenius.net> <4F623488.5060305@cs.ucla.edu> <87haxpvwyg.fsf@hillenius.net> In-Reply-To: <87haxpvwyg.fsf@hillenius.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11020-done Cc: 11020-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) On 03/16/2012 12:14 AM, Gijs Hillenius wrote: > I figured "most recent" would clearify that in a brief manner, but it > does not either. Yes, it's hard to write clear and brief usage messages and sometimes there just isn't any good solution. Anyway, I'm closing out this bug report for now. 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