From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:58:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11013: gnus-use-full-window incompletely implemented Resent-From: Sam Steingold Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 11013 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 11013@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Reply-To: sds@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.13317396987438 (code B ref -1); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:42:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2012 15:41:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50718 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S7qKX-0001vu-H9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:41:38 -0400 Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com ([209.85.215.172]:48559) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S7qKL-0001vd-CP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:41:36 -0400 Received: by eaaq11 with SMTP id q11so1013601eaa.3 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:11:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:user-agent:x-debbugs-version :x-debbugs-package:return-receipt-to:reply-to:x-attribution :x-disclaimer:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=jOuD87OdZ8BRwx12V0X3V2uh2RoNgCrboDg3o1dCfWU=; b=x668MBE5sQE/d6BsZK6jT1zCrskLQPRoWhnEV0hdv/lPgukoaVfFv7g0X+/I6onnTA Yo8BH0XEOx9ACgeGSiHlLlUm8Nw0yjlXnzimixteQKwc2qKfOb3hmwJRWp7IAKho4SJD 6584gFXYousnHDbLF2GQkn99+3O/Ueqi7HND+WXvQRIqLWwK/+z5c1Epv/0GnOYxuGtC bgeIGxRoM5LbbreTvaFU7YAybtH3yMCSaK9Ucbd31h74d918ozTAZL+gup/iSopqgeKF M5vJAP9X0tSJ1yJ6PIGs9GQ1iVdfFeSAQcajRvk9gCDFBVO6TnonopgWzNxe7Rv0e9rw yfPg== Received: by 10.229.77.131 with SMTP id g3mr941827qck.147.1331737881689; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from t520sds (cl-pat-tr.clearspring.com. [8.18.54.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ec5sm9290855qab.21.2012.03.14.08.11.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:11:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Steingold User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:11:14 -0400 Message-ID: <87lin3b4kt.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) I just discovered gnus-use-full-window=nil and I am totally thrilled with a full-screen Emacs frame which gnus does not hijack. However, a couple of nits have to be picked: 1. gnus-bug did delete all the other windows and hijack the frame. my mail-user-agent is gnus-user-agent. 2. I can have two *Summary* buffers side but only one *Article* buffer, and as soon as I hit enter in one *Summary* buffer, the window with the other *Summary* buffer disappears. I wish I could read two newsgroups side by side! Thanks! Gnus v5.13 GNU Emacs 24.0.94.4 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2012-03-12 on t520sds 200 news.gmane.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.1 ready (posting ok) 101 Capability list: VERSION 2 IMPLEMENTATION INN 2.5.1 AUTHINFO USER HDR LIST ACTIVE ACTIVE.TIMES DISTRIB.PATS HEADERS NEWSGROUPS OVERVIEW.FMT OVER POST READER STARTTLS . 382 Begin TLS negotiation now 101 Capability list: VERSION 2 IMPLEMENTATION INN 2.5.1 AUTHINFO USER HDR LIST ACTIVE ACTIVE.TIMES DISTRIB.PATS HEADERS NEWSGROUPS OVERVIEW.FMT OVER POST READER . -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) X 11.0.11004000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://honestreporting.com http://pmw.org.il http://jihadwatch.org http://americancensorship.org http://dhimmi.com The plural of "anecdote" is not "data". From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:58:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11013: gnus-use-full-window incompletely implemented Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11013 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: sds@gnu.org Cc: 11013@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11013-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11013.13317400928018 (code B ref 11013); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 11013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2012 15:48:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50723 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S7qQt-00025G-QV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:48:12 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:55474) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S7qQp-000257-D7 for 11013@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:48:09 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S7pxb-00086Q-8C; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:17:55 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: <87lin3b4kt.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEX9+eHKz9b//+9jal/2 7dv+/eb///D///MyNS2ho53//+j+//PsU5X4AAACWklEQVQ4jW2UsWvbQBTGb4iXbkKGWnTqQWXQ Fl8IEl0kUCjePNgteNQgQafYpHe7ReFMJyPa+vASBBmqLWRI89/1vXc6xwn9jOWTfv7e3Xund2yY M9SgC6OoW1jBfQ4fGHWou8UMBzyCC7CUwR3nPOKklocl/HQzlg7geRjySipVKfxWShYRgpaX6lRl BeCWpUs+Vq/Vg0qtM4+Ug7IDAgi1DJVae88KJkpJcowf1fUroGwo9QI0F0pWBMJT4O+aBNaMoAPw LTsC04hPSn69ZYxAMHSBAPxWkjtHkGcOBAiKHlx7DhgCuKqrFhK/yRxITBC/pVA9OMutITG++NI7 KgQsI4sRxoflKnKUFCpHS5AIEVxYkKJjlaXZLw3ZJWLrf1d2uT2Y/qy90RaARoA7SHMEaRYknqch 1P7oUDjH52ykvQCBv1H9ciHBm3ye7fX5VMd17U8cgFBPZrrbax1rULNxocDxIHZmrxODIN7YHSTH Cmq010LoWmh96lhBbg2AWABEUByBMb4GVwLbcYnvT5/gPYCRNrvROdTl3f/AFup4cADKfm9wcvhu YXBwRRxjHo2IcfLkBODrg46jDrjcO8YIBC+AXAMYdP0cEE3EO2PE5HHN+dyCJwSi12bOZtiWXWsn rx24VLIsMBT0xwOUyD0XH6Gpis6Cv1DV2ll+AKDJqexWiXXIAkEbVs/NJ20LctiPwZKXZeieF3SF IwDboIWGPzYuNLmSHxYIlnQwhCUFLBEVf7yrGQFU1JYF7/V++IZSZHTkwB/ouMGDZrk4Y9jzdDLR IE+ZVf4P7+yWyAKfbGIAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Pink Floyd's _Wish You Were Here_ Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:17:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87lin3b4kt.fsf@gnu.org> (Sam Steingold's message of "Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:11:14 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1S7pxb-00086Q-8C X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1332343075.4583@P7H4A7hI0z4TPXmQTM2Sdw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Sam Steingold writes: > I just discovered gnus-use-full-window=nil and I am totally thrilled > with a full-screen Emacs frame which gnus does not hijack. > However, a couple of nits have to be picked: > > 1. gnus-bug did delete all the other windows and hijack the frame. > my mail-user-agent is gnus-user-agent. I think I've fixed this now in No Gnus. > 2. I can have two *Summary* buffers side but only one *Article* buffer, > and as soon as I hit enter in one *Summary* buffer, the window with the > other *Summary* buffer disappears. I wish I could read two newsgroups > side by side! Do you have `gnus-single-article-buffer' set? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:58:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11013: gnus-use-full-window incompletely implemented Resent-From: Sam Steingold Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11013 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: 11013@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: sds@gnu.org Received: via spool by 11013-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11013.133174321112493 (code B ref 11013); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 11013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2012 16:40:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50759 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S7rFC-0003FS-Sr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:40:11 -0400 Received: from mail-fa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.161.44]:47375) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S7rF9-0003FH-2z for 11013@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:40:08 -0400 Received: by faaa25 with SMTP id a25so398812faa.3 for <11013@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:10:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :return-receipt-to:reply-to:x-attribution:x-disclaimer:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=BUqbuv5ywJovYo5A4yv42wKMYxTZBj/B1C2gp2mtJTE=; b=Mm05OyDzG5HeFis9XPogxD7UNLNUfhLeMA/+9o1mxebV4xnA2lVqlzW9jwERFIFABw b7RPdJEjbYzZMVW8YXJo1u0ugoNg++7SQZ79hBo9BURLPnocP/L/mrYnIsCvJQsLS5Ni cCvDhl4a2MxNPm/syjyrLtqSpk8VaaCXsID4U3G1z69IwcXjSa3+aQroO/LDU9UAOhz/ RHmXlq8gPu0P1eNXEgxbKusxsWKsF+zPjRj7MMOMzOWAiK0M9AOzNID4MqN1lItH+XVy 6bNwe0EAeZZV6OQVl6k3y8d9od4l6yAZR/mCA7AuZeqlwb3HLIE9Ut6d3a97fL9KqnZL SKYg== Received: by 10.224.95.210 with SMTP id e18mr3601960qan.81.1331741403029; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from t520sds (cl-pat-tr.clearspring.com. [8.18.54.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cw5sm9506881qab.20.2012.03.14.09.10.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Steingold In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 14 Mar 2012 16:17:54 +0100") References: <87lin3b4kt.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:10:00 -0400 Message-ID: <87d38fb1uv.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) > * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen [2012-03-14 16:17:54 +0100]: > > Sam Steingold writes: > >> I just discovered gnus-use-full-window=nil and I am totally thrilled >> with a full-screen Emacs frame which gnus does not hijack. >> However, a couple of nits have to be picked: >> >> 1. gnus-bug did delete all the other windows and hijack the frame. >> my mail-user-agent is gnus-user-agent. > > I think I've fixed this now in No Gnus. good! gnus-version ==> "Gnus v5.13" which one is that? emacs-version "24.0.94.4" >> 2. I can have two *Summary* buffers side but only one *Article* buffer, >> and as soon as I hit enter in one *Summary* buffer, the window with the >> other *Summary* buffer disappears. I wish I could read two newsgroups >> side by side! > > Do you have `gnus-single-article-buffer' set? gnus-single-article-buffer nil I was wrong, sorry. The buffer is there, but it is not displayed. Here is what happens. I have a maximized emacs frame. I split it side-by-side (C-x 3). I make the left window show *Summary group1* and the right window show *Summary group2*. I hit RET in the left window. EXPECTED behavior: left window is split below (like C-x 2) and the *Article group1* is shown below the *Summary group1*. The right window still shows *Summary group2*. ACTUAL behavior: *Summary group2* disappears and the whole frame is hijacked by *Summary group1* and *Article group1*. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) X 11.0.11004000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://memri.org http://www.memritv.org http://www.PetitionOnline.com/tap12009/ http://thereligionofpeace.com Oh Lord, give me the source code of the Universe and a good debugger! From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:58:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11013: gnus-use-full-window incompletely implemented Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11013 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: sds@gnu.org Cc: 11013@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 11013-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11013.133245441212359 (code B ref 11013); Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:14:02 +0000 Received: (at 11013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Mar 2012 22:13:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33612 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SAqGB-0003DH-8G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:13:31 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:59048) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SAqG8-0003D9-JO for 11013@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:13:29 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SApmD-0001Ka-5A; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:42:33 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: <87lin3b4kt.fsf@gnu.org> <87d38fb1uv.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEW6sLYkHSYLBQoIAwfQ xso+N0EPCQ8MBwzo4uMXERgSDBKAdoEXJomGAAACVElEQVQ4jWWSMY+bQBCFp3AqV5zERfi6RQo9 /AEXFC5DQaSIzpEWHeVaYqWrXdD6omAtXRSFE1s5hYuIP5c3a+PjLtMgz8d7b2YM5X7+f2VeQPdV JStr7WBcWdvjl9QJtRLVSyBrhq7Do+9lXYYMeuk0lruskKVUO+pkWSst9RVa6EutI+GslFZC1RUk 7F/WWkTOqg5DIZQT9LYqJV4TCXUWo0iXYJwXBJHYJWRm1Q22qrZaCBEmFBgTBJ7nHRi4cM19AO+1 3IZyq8QOCm9ekHe9Vmz2FrCorzGuiBzIszzLJk0vNS4SMphueiEdFg9dxvzaTqIjJd4CJzJdWSoR vgNMOgvBewW7dRanmhTFiJpAqW7hrj+RtsRFcEQG47XODHr0sUd3uAmcJgu+JUmMqQ6+PwMgwXcY xTG1gwPE5cxYwWdvKx8RJ7oSgF8QhDE91z9eAUie3Ykk1hrgMLLTIl1PkucwjgA+HfLihD5q7WKy NhSRUzBAe5+mRMtx/CoTEUUACGewaZxkOWadEFrQUT5eQHoxW455q4Qu6fhk/CvYwGwNry+IiOlY /5xA0zSQIESIXUR39eBPUwFwyPlli89nVVk31QbvN/uUd8laFSm6H568h0XTXPou/m/PH9yqDfyC XMAF0fIcbLXifzArrk6cDrPROwoAP/eLxQ0wWWZmy9+uKU6LtLkVVjkPpaCP5QPPOgMY2FvhiL9P NO83e6zyZ3WkVcGCzRysP2RGk3894K2PjNyYF/pMNBe4O2adaQFmTntM68Y1BgD9dNqBi+hsjPcP 6d6hlWDfX2AAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Various's _Lou Lou... in Tokyon_: "Mammifer - Lilac" Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:42:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87d38fb1uv.fsf@gnu.org> (Sam Steingold's message of "Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:10:00 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1SApmD-0001Ka-5A X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1333057353.37342@zshPE87ZgsqZZB+1Bwl90w X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Sam Steingold writes: >> I think I've fixed this now in No Gnus. > > good! > gnus-version > ==> "Gnus v5.13" > which one is that? > > emacs-version > "24.0.94.4" For all intensive purposes, No Gnus is 5.13. > I was wrong, sorry. The buffer is there, but it is not displayed. > > Here is what happens. > I have a maximized emacs frame. > I split it side-by-side (C-x 3). > I make the left window show *Summary group1* > and the right window show *Summary group2*. > I hit RET in the left window. > > EXPECTED behavior: left window is split below (like C-x 2) and the > *Article group1* is shown below the *Summary group1*. The right window > still shows *Summary group2*. > > ACTUAL behavior: *Summary group2* disappears and the whole frame is > hijacked by *Summary group1* and *Article group1*. I see. Looking at the code, that does seem to be almost the intended outcome. The `gnus-use-full-window' logic is "leave non-Gnus buffers be, but use the Gnus buffers as normal". That is, it computes the area of the Gnus windows, and then arranges the buffers inside that area, instead of the default, which is to use the entire frame. So Gnus just doesn't support having two summary/article buffer pairs side by side in a frame. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:58:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#11013: gnus-use-full-window incompletely implemented Resent-From: Sam Steingold Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 05:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11013 X-GNU-PR-Package: gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Cc: 11013@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: sds@gnu.org Received: via spool by 11013-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11013.133247997818773 (code B ref 11013); Fri, 23 Mar 2012 05:20:02 +0000 Received: (at 11013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Mar 2012 05:19:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33964 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SAwuY-0004sk-5H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 01:19:38 -0400 Received: from mail-qa0-f51.google.com ([209.85.216.51]:44819) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SAwuW-0004sd-Ck for 11013@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 01:19:37 -0400 Received: by qaea16 with SMTP id a16so782773qae.3 for <11013@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:48:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :return-receipt-to:reply-to:x-attribution:x-disclaimer:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=mdgP/9Vf0z29fmYGjdMzEsENbvvMrmAmE21O74TilDc=; b=QpUYXzXZBUb7pEZqQTm23x6+r1jot/7ru52/98P9+9W7i5ilUcO7sI8CQpLKXWLsBx TcRkQyluj1tuow9He19TtBFnV5EQYPd1SurIK2zMWcItYphqSOBjX3GqBoUt3e9Pqy2U XjQ/YOeR4VwaYhbVGrCcc/vo/viwxZSz9cp1LeDrtgQZhq1ElWhcKGN1lXqhGN0DCLl9 5lc9i3ZjNMRndaci7eS/10wUbMTEK0Rjx8AIyVK4Z81ybfB42NaqNtp9fp3HVJZHamQU DuZW3gxUWwtkcIjYxNNs/Yw4asP/nfOlVp6zYlKViUkVk5Qx1kyvoz1RcFllmgH5yUHX YIMA== Received: by 10.224.102.8 with SMTP id e8mr14216693qao.50.1332478125117; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from t520sds (ool-4357782b.dyn.optonline.net. [67.87.120.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eo4sm12144292qab.16.2012.03.22.21.48.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:48:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Steingold In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:42:32 +0100") References: <87lin3b4kt.fsf@gnu.org> <87d38fb1uv.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:48:43 -0400 Message-ID: <874ntf6hxw.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) > * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen [2012-03-22 22:42:32 +0100]: > > So Gnus just doesn't support having two summary/article buffer pairs > side by side in a frame. that's too bad. please consider this an RFE. e.g., when I read related groups, I want to see related discussions next to each other. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) X 11.0.11004000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://ffii.org http://pmw.org.il http://camera.org http://thereligionofpeace.com http://honestreporting.com War has never solved anything - except for ending Slavery, Nazism, Communism. From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:58:05 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.428 (Entity 5.428) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: sds@gnu.org Subject: bug#11013: closed (Re: bug#11013: gnus-use-full-window incompletely implemented) Message-ID: References: <87lin3b4kt.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 11013 X-Gnu-PR-Package: gnus Reply-To: 11013@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 17:55:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1334080502-26138-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1334080502-26138-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #11013: gnus-use-full-window incompletely implemented which was filed against the gnus package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 11013@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 11013: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D11013 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1334080502-26138-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 11013-close) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Apr 2012 17:54:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49184 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHfGX-0006mL-I7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:54:05 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:40066) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHfGV-0006mA-68 for 11013-close@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:54:04 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SHfFO-0005Vy-D0; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:52:54 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: sds@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#11013: gnus-use-full-window incompletely implemented References: <87lin3b4kt.fsf@gnu.org> <87d38fb1uv.fsf@gnu.org> <874ntf6hxw.fsf@gnu.org> X-Now-Playing: Digital Mystikz's _Return II Space_: "Pop Pop Epic" Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:52:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <874ntf6hxw.fsf@gnu.org> (Sam Steingold's message of "Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:48:43 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1SHfFO-0005Vy-D0 X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1334685174.84805@fdLSnoV3hMCzRLebbMJdxQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 11013-close Cc: 11013-close@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Sam Steingold writes: > that's too bad. please consider this an RFE. > e.g., when I read related groups, I want to see related discussions next > to each other. The way the Gnus window control mechanisms work, I think the complexity involved doesn't warrant the added functionality. Especially since you can get the desired look by just using two frames side-by-side instead. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ ------------=_1334080502-26138-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Mar 2012 15:41:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50718 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S7qKX-0001vu-H9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:41:38 -0400 Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com ([209.85.215.172]:48559) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S7qKL-0001vd-CP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:41:36 -0400 Received: by eaaq11 with SMTP id q11so1013601eaa.3 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:11:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:user-agent:x-debbugs-version :x-debbugs-package:return-receipt-to:reply-to:x-attribution :x-disclaimer:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=jOuD87OdZ8BRwx12V0X3V2uh2RoNgCrboDg3o1dCfWU=; b=x668MBE5sQE/d6BsZK6jT1zCrskLQPRoWhnEV0hdv/lPgukoaVfFv7g0X+/I6onnTA Yo8BH0XEOx9ACgeGSiHlLlUm8Nw0yjlXnzimixteQKwc2qKfOb3hmwJRWp7IAKho4SJD 6584gFXYousnHDbLF2GQkn99+3O/Ueqi7HND+WXvQRIqLWwK/+z5c1Epv/0GnOYxuGtC bgeIGxRoM5LbbreTvaFU7YAybtH3yMCSaK9Ucbd31h74d918ozTAZL+gup/iSopqgeKF M5vJAP9X0tSJ1yJ6PIGs9GQ1iVdfFeSAQcajRvk9gCDFBVO6TnonopgWzNxe7Rv0e9rw yfPg== Received: by 10.229.77.131 with SMTP id g3mr941827qck.147.1331737881689; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from t520sds (cl-pat-tr.clearspring.com. [8.18.54.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ec5sm9290855qab.21.2012.03.14.08.11.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:11:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Steingold To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: gnus-use-full-window incompletely implemented User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-Debbugs-Version: 5.13 X-Debbugs-Package: gnus X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:11:14 -0400 Message-ID: <87lin3b4kt.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: sds@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) I just discovered gnus-use-full-window=nil and I am totally thrilled with a full-screen Emacs frame which gnus does not hijack. However, a couple of nits have to be picked: 1. gnus-bug did delete all the other windows and hijack the frame. my mail-user-agent is gnus-user-agent. 2. I can have two *Summary* buffers side but only one *Article* buffer, and as soon as I hit enter in one *Summary* buffer, the window with the other *Summary* buffer disappears. I wish I could read two newsgroups side by side! Thanks! Gnus v5.13 GNU Emacs 24.0.94.4 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2012-03-12 on t520sds 200 news.gmane.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.1 ready (posting ok) 101 Capability list: VERSION 2 IMPLEMENTATION INN 2.5.1 AUTHINFO USER HDR LIST ACTIVE ACTIVE.TIMES DISTRIB.PATS HEADERS NEWSGROUPS OVERVIEW.FMT OVER POST READER STARTTLS . 382 Begin TLS negotiation now 101 Capability list: VERSION 2 IMPLEMENTATION INN 2.5.1 AUTHINFO USER HDR LIST ACTIVE ACTIVE.TIMES DISTRIB.PATS HEADERS NEWSGROUPS OVERVIEW.FMT OVER POST READER . -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 11.10 (oneiric) X 11.0.11004000 http://www.childpsy.net/ http://honestreporting.com http://pmw.org.il http://jihadwatch.org http://americancensorship.org http://dhimmi.com The plural of "anecdote" is not "data". ------------=_1334080502-26138-1--