From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:14 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#10970 <10970@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#10970 <10970@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.93; package.el doesn't load autoloads before compiling Reply-To: bug#10970 <10970@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 04:03:14 +0000 retitle 10970 24.0.93; package.el doesn't load autoloads before compiling reassign 10970 emacs submitter 10970 Donald Ephraim Curtis severity 10970 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 08 10:10:40 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2012 15:10:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39217 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S5ezH-0003eD-9m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2012 10:10:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51879) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S5eyu-0003dH-Gu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2012 10:10:27 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S5exh-0003a5-EN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2012 10:09:10 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]:56157) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S5exh-0003Zy-Ag for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2012 10:09:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53392) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S5exa-0002Dm-La for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2012 10:09:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S5exP-0003Rw-8a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2012 10:08:54 -0500 Received: from mail6.webfaction.com ([74.55.86.74]:55111 helo=smtp.webfaction.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S5exP-0003R8-23 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2012 10:08:43 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (173-28-195-157.client.mchsi.com [173.28.195.157]) by smtp.webfaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB8F26EC25F for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2012 09:08:37 -0600 (CST) From: Donald Ephraim Curtis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: 24.0.93; package.el doesn't load autoloads before compiling Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 09:08:36 -0600 Message-Id: To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.118.235.17 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Occasionally, when you install a package via `package.el' you have a package that stores it's elisp files in a subdirectory under the main package directory. One solution is to add elisp like, (when (boundp 'load-path) (add-to-list 'load-path (file-name-as-directory (expand-file-name "lisp" (file-name-directory load-file-name))))) where "lisp" is the subdirectory under the package directory containing the elisp files (this example is ESS). However, before compiling, the autoloads file (pkg-autoloads.el) is not loaded, so anything that updates the load-path is also not sourced. It may be best that packages simply put all their lisp files in the main package directory, but it also may be worthwhile to simply add, (load (expand-file-name (concat (symbol-name name) "-autoloads") = pkg-dir) nil t) in the `package-unpack' function after the autoloads are generated. There may also be some problems with this that I am not seeing. =20 In GNU Emacs 24.0.93.1 (i386-apple-darwin11.3.0, NS = apple-appkit-1138.32) of 2012-02-07 on bird.local Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1138 Configured using: `configure '--prefix=3D/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/HEAD' '--without-dbus' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--infodir=3D/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/HEAD/share/info/emacs' '--with-ns' '--disable-ns-self-contained' 'CC=3D/usr/bin/llvm-gcc' 'CFLAGS=3D-O3 -w -pipe -march=3Dcore2 -msse4'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: nil default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Package Menu Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t savehist-mode: t recentf-mode: t ido-ubiquitous-mode: t ido-everywhere: t show-paren-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-x b C-g C-x RET p a c k C-n C-n C-n C-p=20 C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n=20 C-n C-n C-n C-n i x C-g C-x b i n i C-e C-x=20 C-e C-x b x y C-n C-n C-n C-n C-x o C-n C-n=20 C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n=20 C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n=20 C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n=20 C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n=20 C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-s E r r o r C-s C-s C-s=20 C-g C-g C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-x o C-p C-p C-p=20 C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-p C-n C-n C-n C-n=20 C-n C-n C-x RET b u g C-n C-n Recent messages: Checking = /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/ess-20120305/etc/useR-2006-ESS/RefCards... Checking = /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/ess-20120305/etc/useR-2006-ESS/Lab1/auto... Compiling = /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/ess-20120305/etc/useR-2006-ESS/Lab1/auto/cph-= 1-lab.el...done Wrote = /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/ess-20120305/etc/useR-2006-ESS/Lab1/auto/cph-= 1-lab.elc Checking = /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/ess-20120305/etc/useR-2006-ESS/Lab1/auto... Checking = /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/ess-20120305/etc/useR-2006-ESS/Lab2/auto... Compiling = /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/ess-20120305/etc/useR-2006-ESS/Lab2/auto/Swea= ve-Example.el...done Wrote = /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/ess-20120305/etc/useR-2006-ESS/Lab2/auto/Swea= ve-Example.elc Checking = /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/ess-20120305/etc/useR-2006-ESS/Lab2/auto... Done (Total of 68 files compiled in 6 directories) Quit Load-path shadows: ~/.emacs.d/custom hides = /usr/local/Cellar/emacs/HEAD/share/emacs/24.0.93/lisp/custom /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/ruby-mode-20120122/ruby-mode hides = /usr/local/Cellar/emacs/HEAD/share/emacs/24.0.93/lisp/progmodes/ruby-mode /Users/dcurtis/.emacs.d/elpa/magit-20120213/.dir-locals hides = /usr/local/Cellar/emacs/HEAD/share/emacs/24.0.93/lisp/gnus/.dir-locals ~/.emacs.d/package hides = /usr/local/Cellar/emacs/HEAD/share/emacs/24.0.93/lisp/emacs-lisp/package Features: (shadow sort flyspell ispell mail-extr message rfc822 mml mml-sec mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader emacsbug multi-isearch hideshow ess-help ess-dde ess-omg-l reporter tramp tramp-compat format-spec tramp-loaddefs ess-toolbar ess-mouse mouseme browse-url ess-menu speedbar sb-image ezimage dframe ess-swv ess-noweb essd-els ess-sas-d ess-sas-l ess-sas-a executable shell pcomplete ess-arc-d ess-vst-d ess-xls-d ess-sta-d ess-sta-l cc-vars cc-defs make-regexp ess-sp6-d ess-sp5-d ess-sp3-d ess-r-d ess-tracebug ess-developer ess-r-args ess-s-l ess-inf ess-mode noweb-mode ess ess-custom ess-site ess-utils ess-bugs-l ess-compat ess-lsp-l compile comint noutline outline easy-mmode regexp-opt autoload tar-mode time-stamp vc-git mail-utils network-stream starttls url-cache url-http tls mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums url-gw url-auth url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-util url-parse auth-source eieio gnus-util password-cache url-vars mm-util mail-prsvr mailcap finder-inf eldoc elisp-slime-nav etags ring paredit hl-line saveplace idle-highlight-mode thingatpt dropdown-list yasnippet help-mode view assoc rainbow-delimiters whitespace melpa sanityinc-tomorrow-bright-theme color-theme-sanityinc-tomorrow savehist recentf tree-widget wid-edit autorevert cua-base cus-start cus-load server misc midnight auctex-autoloads tex-site info easymenu clojure-test-mode-autoloads clojurescript-mode-autoloads clojure-mode-autoloads color-theme-sanityinc-solarized-autoloads color-theme-sanityinc-tomorrow-autoloads deft-autoloads evil-autoloads flymake-cursor-autoloads full-ack-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads markdown-mode+-autoloads markdown-mode-autoloads melpa-autoloads byte-opt warnings bytecomp byte-compile cconv macroexp multi-term-autoloads pastels-on-dark-theme-autoloads rainbow-delimiters-autoloads rinari-autoloads jump-autoloads inflections-autoloads findr-autoloads ruby-compilation-autoloads ruby-mode-autoloads slime-autoloads starter-kit-bindings-autoloads windmove starter-kit-eshell-autoloads starter-kit-lisp-autoloads elisp-slime-nav-autoloads starter-kit-ruby-autoloads starter-kit-autoloads edmacro kmacro smex starter-kit-misc ffap ido-ubiquitous ido paren starter-kit-defuns uniquify advice help-fns advice-preload magit-autoloads ido-ubiquitous-autoloads smex-autoloads find-file-in-project-autoloads idle-highlight-mode-autoloads paredit-autoloads inf-ruby-autoloads undo-tree-autoloads yasnippet-autoloads package derived tabulated-list defun cl time-date tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel ns-win tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process ns multi-tty emacs) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 11 05:56:35 2012 Received: (at 10970) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2012 09:56:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44467 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S6fVz-0006sA-DI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 05:56:35 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36242) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S6fVn-0006rs-Tu for 10970@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 05:56:34 -0400 Received: from bb116-14-103-36.singnet.com.sg ([116.14.103.36]:56971 helo=ulysses) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S6f2y-0002ld-Ay; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 05:26:37 -0400 From: Chong Yidong To: Donald Ephraim Curtis Subject: Re: bug#10970: 24.0.93; package.el doesn't load autoloads before compiling References: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:26:29 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Donald Ephraim Curtis's message of "Thu, 8 Mar 2012 09:08:36 -0600") Message-ID: <87d38jv67u.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10970 Cc: 10970@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Donald Ephraim Curtis writes: > However, before compiling, the autoloads file (pkg-autoloads.el) is not > loaded, so anything that updates the load-path is also not sourced. > > It may be best that packages simply put all their lisp files in the main > package directory, but it also may be worthwhile to simply add, > > (load (expand-file-name (concat (symbol-name name) "-autoloads") pkg-dir) nil t) > > in the `package-unpack' function after the autoloads are generated. I see the problem. OTOH I don't see any actual bug that would arise from loading the autoloads file before byte compilation. But on the other hand, it's kind of conceptually nice that the autoloads file is only loaded when the package is activated, as a separate step from unpacking. Maybe it's better for the affected files to use `eval-when-compile' if they need to alter the load path. Anyone have another opinion? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 11 11:10:50 2012 Received: (at 10970) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2012 15:10:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45110 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S6kQ6-0007bI-CP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:10:50 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:27113) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S6kQ5-0007bC-2n for 10970@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 11:10:49 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicFAKU/KE9soXdS/2dsb2JhbACBX5x7eYhwnhmGGQSbGYQJ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,1,1325480400"; d="scan'208";a="167402302" Received: from 108-161-119-82.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO fmsmemgm.homelinux.net) ([108.161.119.82]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 11 Mar 2012 10:41:03 -0400 Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 205E9AE277; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:41:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Chong Yidong Subject: Re: bug#10970: 24.0.93; package.el doesn't load autoloads before compiling Message-ID: References: <87d38jv67u.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:41:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87d38jv67u.fsf@gnu.org> (Chong Yidong's message of "Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:26:29 +0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10970 Cc: 10970@debbugs.gnu.org, Donald Ephraim Curtis X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > I see the problem. OTOH I don't see any actual bug that would arise > from loading the autoloads file before byte compilation. I think it's the right thing to do. > But on the other hand, it's kind of conceptually nice that the > autoloads file is only loaded when the package is activated, as > a separate step from unpacking. It would be separate, because byte-compiling is a separate step from unpacking (although it's almost always done together). Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 11 23:33:34 2012 Received: (at 10970) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2012 03:33:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45640 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S6w0r-0005ev-NB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:33:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:49319) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S6w0p-0005eo-Bh for 10970@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:33:32 -0400 Received: from bb116-14-103-36.singnet.com.sg ([116.14.103.36]:59720 helo=ulysses) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S6vXu-0004ww-Qg; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:03:39 -0400 From: Chong Yidong To: Stefan Monnier Subject: Re: bug#10970: 24.0.93; package.el doesn't load autoloads before compiling References: <87d38jv67u.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:03:30 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 11 Mar 2012 10:41:01 -0400") Message-ID: <87aa3med19.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10970 Cc: 10970@debbugs.gnu.org, Donald Ephraim Curtis X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Stefan Monnier writes: >> I see the problem. OTOH I don't see any actual bug that would arise >> from loading the autoloads file before byte compilation. > > I think it's the right thing to do. Fine by me. I committed a patch to do that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 11 23:33:40 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2012 03:33:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45643 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S6w0x-0005fD-Iv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:33:40 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:49322) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S6w0v-0005f5-Bn for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:33:37 -0400 Received: from bb116-14-103-36.singnet.com.sg ([116.14.103.36]:59721 helo=ulysses) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S6vY4-0004xC-6e for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:03:48 -0400 From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 10970 Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:03:41 +0800 Message-ID: <878vj634he.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) close 10970 thanks From unknown Tue Aug 19 21:03:14 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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