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23.0.60; Emacs Default Font

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Message #5 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Vinicius Jose Latorre <viniciusjl <at> ig.com.br>
To: "GNU Emacs (pretest)" <emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 23.0.60; Emacs Default Font
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:44:03 -0300

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I would like to know what happened with Emacs default font, see images 
attached in this email.

I've just downloaded Emacs via CVS and compiled (see image emacs-new.png):

GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.8.20)
of 2008-10-05 on debian-hfit


My old Emacs was (see image emacs-old.png):

GNU Emacs 23.0.60.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.8.20)
of 2008-05-26 on debian-hfit


My ~/.Xresources file is:

Mozilla*font:fixed
Firefox*font:fixed
Emacs*font:fixed


Why the new Emacs default font is proportional instead of monospaced?



If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
   `bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file
/home/download/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.60/etc/DEBUG for instructions.


In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.8.20)
of 2008-10-05 on debian-hfit
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70101000
configured using `configure  '--prefix=/home/download/emacs''

Important settings:
 value of $LC_ALL: nil
 value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
 value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
 value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
 value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
 value of $LC_TIME: nil
 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Fundamental

Minor modes in effect:
 display-time-mode: t
 msb-mode: t
 show-paren-mode: t
 tooltip-mode: t
 tool-bar-mode: t
 mouse-wheel-mode: t
 menu-bar-mode: t
 file-name-shadow-mode: t
 global-font-lock-mode: t
 blink-cursor-mode: t
 global-auto-composition-mode: t
 auto-encryption-mode: t
 auto-compression-mode: t
 column-number-mode: t
 line-number-mode: t
 transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
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<right> <right> <right> <right> <down> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
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<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <menu-bar>
<help-menu> <about-emacs> <help-echo> <down-mouse-5>
<mouse-5> <down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <down-mouse-5> <mouse-5>
<down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <down-mouse-5>
<mouse-5> <down-mouse-4> <mouse-4> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1>
<down-mouse-3> <mouse-3> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1>
<mouse-1> <down-mouse-3> <mouse-3> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo> <help-echo>
<help-echo> <help-echo> <menu-bar> <help-menu> <se
nd-emacs-bug-report>

Recent messages:
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Message #10 received at 1094 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
To: Vinicius Jose Latorre <viniciusjl <at> ig.com.br>
Cc: 1094 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Emacs Default Font
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:57:47 -0400

> I would like to know what happened with Emacs default font, see images
> attached in this email.
>
> I've just downloaded Emacs via CVS and compiled (see image
> emacs-new.png):
>
> Why the new Emacs default font is proportional instead of monospaced?

The font shown in the screenshot you attached is monospaced...

Message #15 received at 1094 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Vinicius Jose Latorre <viniciusjl <at> ig.com.br>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
Cc: 1094 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Emacs Default Font
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 20:11:17 -0300

Chong Yidong wrote:
>> I would like to know what happened with Emacs default font, see images
>> attached in this email.
>>
>> I've just downloaded Emacs via CVS and compiled (see image
>> emacs-new.png):
>>
>> Why the new Emacs default font is proportional instead of monospaced?
>>     
>
> The font shown in the screenshot you attached is monospaced...
>   

Hmm, yes, indeed, it's monospaced, I should pay more attention.

But the font is another one, why?

Message #20 received at 1094 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
To: Vinicius Jose Latorre <viniciusjl <at> ig.com.br>
Cc: 1094 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Emacs Default Font
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:43:49 -0400

Vinicius Jose Latorre <viniciusjl <at> ig.com.br> writes:

>>> I would like to know what happened with Emacs default font, see
>>> images attached in this email.
>
> Hmm, yes, indeed, it's monospaced, I should pay more attention.
>
> But the font is another one, why?

In June, we changed Emacs to try using Monospace-12 as the default font,
if Emacs is compiled with XFT support.  Monospace should be an
anti-aliased font.

If this change is responsible for what you're seeing, I'm not sure why
the screenshot you provided shows a non-antialiased font.

Could you check if your Emacs is compiled with libxft?  Also, what is
the default font you currently see?  What does the menu item
Options->Set Default Font show?

Message #25 received at 1094 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Vinicius Jose Latorre <viniciusjl <at> ig.com.br>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
Cc: 1094 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Emacs Default Font
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:36:21 -0300

Chong Yidong wrote:
> Vinicius Jose Latorre <viniciusjl <at> ig.com.br> writes:
>
>>>> I would like to know what happened with Emacs default font, see
>>>> images attached in this email.
>> Hmm, yes, indeed, it's monospaced, I should pay more attention.
>>
>> But the font is another one, why?
>
> In June, we changed Emacs to try using Monospace-12 as the default font,
> if Emacs is compiled with XFT support. Monospace should be an
> anti-aliased font.
>
> If this change is responsible for what you're seeing, I'm not sure why
> the screenshot you provided shows a non-antialiased font.
>
> Could you check if your Emacs is compiled with libxft? Also, what is
> the default font you currently see? What does the menu item
> Options->Set Default Font show?

Yes, it was compiled with libxft, see:


Configured for `i686-pc-linux-gnu'.

 Where should the build process find the source code?    
/home/vinicius/work/emacs
 What operating system and machine description files should Emacs use?
       `s/gnu-linux.h' and `m/intel386.h'
 What compiler should emacs be built with?               gcc -g -O2 
-Wno-pointer-sign
 Should Emacs use the GNU version of malloc?             yes
     (Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library.)
 Should Emacs use a relocating allocator for buffers?    yes
 Should Emacs use mmap(2) for buffer allocation?         no
 What window system should Emacs use?                    x11
 What toolkit should Emacs use?                          GTK
 Where do we find X Windows header files?                Standard dirs
 Where do we find X Windows libraries?                   Standard dirs
 Does Emacs use -lXaw3d?                                 no
 Does Emacs use -lXpm?                                   yes
 Does Emacs use -ljpeg?                                  yes
 Does Emacs use -ltiff?                                  yes
 Does Emacs use a gif library?                           yes -lgif
 Does Emacs use -lpng?                                   yes
 Does Emacs use -lrsvg-2?                                yes
 Does Emacs use -lgpm?                                   yes
 Does Emacs use -ldbus?                                  yes
 Does Emacs use -lfreetype?                              yes
 Does Emacs use -lm17n-flt?                              no
 Does Emacs use -lotf?                                   no
 Does Emacs use -lxft?                                   yes
 Does Emacs use toolkit scroll bars?                     yes


The menu item Options->Set Default Font shows:   Sans Regular 12

My ~/.Xresources file is:

Mozilla*font:fixed
Firefox*font:fixed
Emacs*font:fixed

Message #30 received at 1094 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
To: Vinicius Jose Latorre <viniciusjl <at> ig.com.br>
Cc: 1094 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Emacs Default Font
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:18:03 -0400

> The menu item Options->Set Default Font shows:   Sans Regular 12
>
> My ~/.Xresources file is:
>
> Mozilla*font:fixed
> Firefox*font:fixed
> Emacs*font:fixed

Aha.  I think you'll find that the font you're seeing is

-sony-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-120-100-100-c-80-iso8859-1

or something like that.  I guess the problem is that there is more than
one font named "fixed" in the system.  Recently, Handa changed the "font
scoring" system which tells Emacs which font to use when there are
several possibilities.

To get the exact font you want, you can specify an xlfd name like
-misc-fixed-medium-r-*--13-*-*-*-*-*-*-*, or a fontconfig/GTK font name.
For instance,

Emacs*font:Monospace-10

works great for me.

Message #35 received at 1094 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Vinicius Jose Latorre <viniciusjl <at> ig.com.br>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
Cc: 1094 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Emacs Default Font
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:55:36 -0200

Chong Yidong wrote:
>> The menu item Options->Set Default Font shows:   Sans Regular 12
>>
>> My ~/.Xresources file is:
>>
>> Mozilla*font:fixed
>> Firefox*font:fixed
>> Emacs*font:fixed
>>     
>
> Aha.  I think you'll find that the font you're seeing is
>
> -sony-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-120-100-100-c-80-iso8859-1
>
> or something like that.  I guess the problem is that there is more than
> one font named "fixed" in the system.  Recently, Handa changed the "font
> scoring" system which tells Emacs which font to use when there are
> several possibilities.
>
> To get the exact font you want, you can specify an xlfd name like
> -misc-fixed-medium-r-*--13-*-*-*-*-*-*-*, or a fontconfig/GTK font name.
> For instance,
>
> Emacs*font:Monospace-10
>
> works great for me.
>   

Cool!!  That's worked for me too.

Thanks

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