From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:35:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10901: 24.0.94; Incorrect display of "EMPTY SET" unicode glyph. 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Content preview: emacs -Q M-x ucs-insert empty set RET The displayed character is not an empty set symbol, but a square symbol. This used to work fine until I updated to the 24.0.94 pretest this morning. Please let me know where to post a screenshot. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: emacs -Q M-x ucs-insert empty set RET The displayed character is not an empty set symbol, but a square symbol. This used to work fine until I updated to the 24.0.94 pretest this morning. Please let me know where to post a screenshot. [...] Content analysis details: (1.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.7 RCVD_IN_PSBL RBL: Received via a relay in PSBL [208.118.235.92 listed in psbl.surriel.com] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (fgeller[at]gmail.com) 0.8 SPF_NEUTRAL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (neutral) -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid emacs -Q M-x ucs-insert empty set RET The displayed character is not an empty set symbol, but a square symbol. This used to work fine until I updated to the 24.0.94 pretest this morning. Please let me know where to post a screenshot. In GNU Emacs 24.0.94.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin11.2.0, NS apple-appkit-1138.23) of 2012-02-27 on Ryo.local Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1138 Configured using: `configure '--prefix=/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/24.0.94' '--without-dbus' '--enable-locallisppath=/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--infodir=/Users/fgeller/.emacs.d/info' '--with-ns' '--disable-ns-self-contained' 'CC=/usr/bin/llvm-gcc' 'CFLAGS=-O3 -w -pipe -march=core2 -msse4'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x u c s - i n s e r t e m p t u y y - SPC s e t M-x e m a c s - b u r e p p o o r t - e m - q u n i c o d e SPC p r e t e s t M-x r e p o t - e m a c s - b u r t o r t - e m Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. You can run the command `ucs-insert' with C-x 8 RET Making completion list... [3 times] Contacting host: debbugs.gnu.org:80 Reporting new bug! [2 times] Load-path shadows: None found. 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Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10901 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Felix Geller Cc: 10901@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 10901-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10901.1330374828958 (code B ref 10901); Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:34:01 +0000 Received: (at 10901) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Feb 2012 20:33:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60227 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S27GV-0000FO-U4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:33:48 -0500 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:47923) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S27GT-0000FH-TA for 10901@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:33:46 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M0200600JMBFA00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 10901@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:30:16 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.119.92]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M02006OEJMFB3C0@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:30:16 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:32:21 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83fwdwdnl6.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Felix Geller > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:49:00 +0100 > > emacs -Q > M-x ucs-insert empty set RET > > The displayed character is not an empty set symbol, but a square > symbol. What does Emacs say if you go to the square symbol and type "C-u C-x ="? > This used to work fine until I updated to the 24.0.94 pretest this > morning. Please let me know where to post a screenshot. I get the empty symbol in the 24.0.94 pretest, so it's something specific to your system. Maybe a font setup issue or something. From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:35:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10901: 24.0.94; Incorrect display of "EMPTY SET" unicode glyph. Resent-From: Felix Geller Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10901 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 10901@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10901-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10901.13305076444140 (code B ref 10901); Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:28:02 +0000 Received: (at 10901) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Feb 2012 09:27:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55142 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S2foc-00014N-Ha for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 04:27:24 -0500 Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]:63800) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S2fo7-00013M-MS for 10901@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 04:26:53 -0500 Received: by iazz13 with SMTP id z13so189307iaz.3 for <10901@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of fgeller@gmail.com designates 10.50.193.226 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.50.193.226; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of fgeller@gmail.com designates 10.50.193.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=fgeller@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=fgeller@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.50.193.226]) by 10.50.193.226 with SMTP id hr2mr6090333igc.34.1330507589347 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:26:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sHt+9fqGfTSjEJQyG99b4TAV0i1tsBZakeiLiXLu2bA=; b=B8sEVPh3SkkqpFJESr30vVtjb13PofECc9+shH2HMsQRhV1+qfGxwpWuum3iN39Qqg hvdquRTzRuU48/2Vku4VzavFKgDy7PYcP9Lh7iALHXwRJSIsF9+hU9YQQNo1/96YzBxn 3E0LeaYOI5JxUHf1sDZLK2b7SL5ByiozqAWYg= Received: by 10.50.193.226 with SMTP id hr2mr5056985igc.34.1330507589296; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:26:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.76.70 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 01:26:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83fwdwdnl6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83fwdwdnl6.fsf@gnu.org> From: Felix Geller Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:26:09 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Felix Geller >> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:49:00 +0100 >> >> emacs -Q >> M-x ucs-insert empty set RET >> >> The displayed character is not an empty set symbol, but a square >> symbol. > > What does Emacs say if you go to the square symbol and type "C-u C-x =3D"= ? (copied from *Help* buffer) position: 192 of 192 (99%), column: 0 character: =E2=88=85 (displayed as =E2=88=85) (codepoint 8709, = #o21005, #x2205) preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) code point in charset: 0x2205 syntax: . which means: punctuation category: .:Base, j:Japanese buffer code: #xE2 #x88 #x85 file code: #xE2 #x88 #x85 (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix) display: by this font (glyph code) nil:-apple-AppleMyungjo-medium-normal-normal-*-12-*-*-*-p-0-iso10646-1 (#x00) Character code properties: customize what to show name: EMPTY SET general-category: Sm (Symbol, Math) decomposition: (8709) ('=E2=88=85') There are text properties here: fontified t >> This used to work fine until I updated to the 24.0.94 pretest this >> morning. Please let me know where to post a screenshot. > > I get the empty symbol in the 24.0.94 pretest, so it's something > specific to your system. =C2=A0Maybe a font setup issue or something. Looks like the font name (AppleMyungjo) is off? (The above output is after using emacs -Q). Hope can I (help to) investigate further? From unknown Sat Jun 21 12:35:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10901: 24.0.94; Incorrect display of "EMPTY SET" unicode glyph. Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:30:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10901 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Felix Geller Cc: 10901@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 10901-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10901.133053659318320 (code B ref 10901); Wed, 29 Feb 2012 17:30:01 +0000 Received: (at 10901) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Feb 2012 17:29:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56291 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S2nLc-0004lG-LE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:29:53 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:39798) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S2nLP-0004kr-Ud for 10901@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:29:41 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0M0600A000FD9O00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 10901@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:28:22 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.119.92]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0M06006MG0J9MD71@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:28:22 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:30:29 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: Message-id: <83sjhtczt6.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il References: <83fwdwdnl6.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) > From: Felix Geller > Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:26:09 +0100 > Cc: 10901@debbugs.gnu.org >=20 > >> M-x ucs-insert empty set RET > >> > >> The displayed character is not an empty set symbol, but a square > >> symbol. > > > > What does Emacs say if you go to the square symbol and type "C-u = C-x =3D"? >=20 > (copied from *Help* buffer) >=20 > position: 192 of 192 (99%), column: 0 > character: =E2=88=85 (displayed as =E2=88=85) (codepoin= t 8709, #o21005, #x2205) > preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646)) > code point in charset: 0x2205 > syntax: . =09which means: punctuation > category: .:Base, j:Japanese > buffer code: #xE2 #x88 #x85 > file code: #xE2 #x88 #x85 (encoded by coding system utf= -8-unix) > display: by this font (glyph code) > nil:-apple-AppleMyungjo-medium-normal-normal-*-12-*-*-*-p-0-iso= 10646-1 > (#x00) >=20 > Character code properties: customize what to show > name: EMPTY SET > general-category: Sm (Symbol, Math) > decomposition: (8709) ('=E2=88=85') So it inserts the correct character, but your font cannot display tha= t character. > > I get the empty symbol in the 24.0.94 pretest, so it's something > > specific to your system. =C2=A0Maybe a font setup issue or someth= ing. >=20 > Looks like the font name (AppleMyungjo) is off? Yes. > Hope can I (help to) investigate further? Sorry, I don't know. Someone who knows more about fonts should chime in. In any case, I think this bug should be closed and the discussion moved to help-gnu-emacs or emacs-devel. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 04 04:42:59 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2012 09:42:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60602 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S47xy-0008Ds-SN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 04:42:59 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:41037) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S47xo-0008DS-2x for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 04:42:48 -0500 Received: from bb116-14-103-36.singnet.com.sg ([116.14.103.36]:53707 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S47x8-0001zu-1a for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2012 04:42:06 -0500 From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 10901 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2012 17:41:59 +0800 Message-ID: <87fwdohfdk.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) close 10901 thanks