From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 26 18:17:59 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2012 23:17:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58629 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S1nLq-0008Bn-Q1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 18:17:59 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38938) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S1l6O-0004vH-BZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:53:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S1l3f-0007dW-LN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:51:05 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_PSBL,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:33524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S1l3f-0007dQ-EM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:51:03 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34292) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S1l3d-0002fs-Qy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:51:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S1l3b-0007cs-US for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:51:01 -0500 Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.216.41]:42212) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S1l3b-0007ch-Pe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:50:59 -0500 Received: by qafl39 with SMTP id l39so437988qaf.0 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jordanmiladinov@gmail.com designates 10.224.105.198 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.224.105.198; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jordanmiladinov@gmail.com designates 10.224.105.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jordanmiladinov@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=jordanmiladinov@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.224.105.198]) by 10.224.105.198 with SMTP id u6mr8364078qao.55.1330289459098 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:50:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s4X9Nm/Asqwx4JjhDzE3pEf4CLS2OZCz7a2DTDhxjDE=; b=Xlj/149M0EEO2iae8+lr5yItGvjMXoOUiCaxfLqYRYBanNi4USdMQHOdcQFFQAcw+6 N2CWbtNa4PUbwSB+2EWj2tCofw0KXBpohqsbL7ZleiIdGqGDS2pvGLHTOAuMMMNA+6ON BFus3lMK4YLNL5sJtT/5XbQoJDLgoztyk2t+U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.105.198 with SMTP id u6mr7098131qao.55.1330289459031; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.137.138 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:50:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:50:59 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: New input mode: bulgarian-new-phonetic From: =?windows-1251?B?ye7w5ODtIMzo6+Dk6O3u4g==?= To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=20cf3068448da76efd04b9e426d5 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello, everyone! Here, in Bulgaria, a lot of people use the new bulgarian phonetic keyboard layout. It was issued as a national standard (BDS) in 2006 but, oddly, it's not yet supported by Emacs. I'm using it too and it's always hard and uncomfy to use Emacs for writing in Bulgarian, since one have to switch the layout to English for navigating in the text and to Bulgarian to actually type letters. That's why I made a patch to add the new phonetic layout as an input method. Here the layout is commonly called 'New Bulgarian Phonetic' and hence the name 'bulgarian-new-phonetic'. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello, everyone! Here, in Bulgaria, a lot of people use the new bulgarian phonetic keyboard layout. It was issued as a national standard (BDS) in 2006 but, oddly, it's not yet supported by Emacs. I'm using it too and it's always hard and uncomfy to use Emacs for writing in Bulgarian, since one have to switch the layout to English for navigating in the text and to Bulgarian to actually type letters. That's why I made a patch to add the new phonetic layout as an input method. Here the layout is commonly called 'New Bulgarian Phonetic' and hence the name 'bulgarian-new-phonetic'. [...] Content analysis details: (1.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.7 RCVD_IN_PSBL RBL: Received via a relay in PSBL [208.118.235.92 listed in psbl.surriel.com] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (jordanmiladinov[at]gmail.com) 0.8 SPF_NEUTRAL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (neutral) -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid --20cf3068448da76efd04b9e426d5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3068448da76ef704b9e426d3 --20cf3068448da76ef704b9e426d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello, everyone! Here, in Bulgaria, a lot of people use the new bulgarian phonetic keyboard layout. It was issued as a national standard (BDS) in 2006 but, oddly, it's not yet supported by Emacs. I'm using it too and it's always hard and uncomfy to use Emacs for writing in Bulgarian, since one have to switch the layout to English for navigating in the text and to Bulgarian to actually type letters. That's why I made a patch to add the new phonetic layout as an input method. Here the layout is commonly called 'New Bulgarian Phonetic' and hence the name 'bulgarian-new-phonetic'. I was advised to send the patch here on this email list. Also I already applied for the FSF form for past and future changes. I would be more than happy if you apply the patch. :) Regards! Yordan --20cf3068448da76ef704b9e426d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, everyone!

Here, in Bulgaria, a lot of people use the new bulg= arian phonetic keyboard layout. It was issued as a national standard (BDS) = in 2006 but, oddly, it's not yet supported by Emacs.
I'm using i= t too and it's always hard and uncomfy to use Emacs for writing in Bulg= arian, since one have to switch the layout to English for navigating in the= text and to Bulgarian to actually type letters.
That's why I made a patch to add the new phonetic layout as an input me= thod. Here the layout is commonly called 'New Bulgarian Phonetic' a= nd hence the name 'bulgarian-new-phonetic'.

I was advised to= send the patch here on this email list. Also I already applied for the FSF= form for past and future changes.

I would be more than happy if you apply the patch. :)

Regards!Yordan
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JywgQWxleGFuZGVyIFNob3BvdgogOzsgPGFsX3Nob3BvdkB3ZWIuYmc+LgogCgo= --20cf3068448da76efd04b9e426d5-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 28 03:21:19 2012 Received: (at 10893) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Feb 2012 08:21:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60734 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S2IJD-00007h-1I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2012 03:21:19 -0500 Received: from ceres.tower.3.bg ([195.189.80.108]:54837) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S2I3W-0008BI-Mj for 10893@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Feb 2012 03:05:17 -0500 Received: from [10.0.200.39] (unknown [62.44.101.70]) by ceres.tower.3.bg (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4713F8F080CC for <10893@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:01:55 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4F4C89F2.9070909@tower.3.bg> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:01:54 +0200 From: =?windows-1251?Q?=CE=E3=ED=FF=ED_=CA=F3=EB=E5=E2?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 10893@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Needed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10893 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 03:21:07 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) Hi, I'm author of 2 Bulgarian keyboards already in Emacs. I'm glad that finally we'll have Vista's phonetic keyboard. I'm yet to review the patch but I object to call it "official Bulgarian phonetic keyboard layout which was issued as BDS in 2006...BDS 5237:2006". This was never a standard. It was a proposal for standard that (rightfully) got rejected: http://www.bds-bg.org/news/?news_id=56 . The authors of this layout lied to everyone that it's a standard while it was not. They lied to Microsoft and Microsoft included it in Vista. The description of the layout looks too verbose and vertically long. Please consider how this description looks after Describe Input Method in a 80x25 terminal window. Regards, Ognyan Kulev From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 13 03:57:25 2012 Received: (at 10893-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2012 07:57:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48011 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S7Mbk-0002iA-SV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:57:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:49907) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S7Mbi-0002i2-He for 10893-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:57:23 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S7M8k-0004IS-SS; Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:27:26 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 10893-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#10893: Needed References: <4F4C89F2.9070909@tower.3.bg> X-Spook: argus ASDIC Rubin Firewalls AIEWS rail gun AMW underground X-Ran: ="0H2yo~ntI_-!#4@uE`4*exnaxCQ"_qIO)EkAW'+^++E0B%jZc0N"kKpz,W3UhA.GyA)N X-Hue: green X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 03:27:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4F4C89F2.9070909@tower.3.bg> (=?utf-8?B?ItCe0LPQvdGP0L0g0Jo=?= =?utf-8?B?0YPQu9C10LIiJ3M=?= message of "Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:01:54 +0200") Message-ID: <9dwr6pj6zl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10893-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Version: 24.0.95 Thanks for this. I don't know anything about Bulgarian, or input methods, but it seems to me that this can't do any harm. Based on the comments I installed it as "bulgarian-alt-phonetic" and shortened the description, I hope this was ok; and that someone will fix it if not... It's good that you started the copyright assignment process. I'm assuming however that most of the content here is a factual description of the layout and that it was therefore ok to install this as a "tiny change" without an assignment, at least for now. From unknown Sat Sep 20 07:50:32 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator