From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10876: Please mention format-time-string in "Time of Day" Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 10876 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 10876@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Emacs Bugs Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.133005009122691 (code B ref -1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 02:22:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2012 02:21:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53159 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0kmo-0005tv-Md for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:21:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51231) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S0kmm-0005tj-Lr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:21:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0kkF-0006p6-I3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:18:52 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:44529) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0kkF-0006ot-GW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:18:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56307) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0kkE-0002lG-MT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:18:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0kkC-0006mc-PL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:18:49 -0500 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41]:55855) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S0kkC-0006mT-BZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:18:48 -0500 Received: by lamf4 with SMTP id f4so2747768lam.0 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lennart.borgman@gmail.com designates 10.112.48.200 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.112.48.200; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lennart.borgman@gmail.com designates 10.112.48.200 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lennart.borgman@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=lennart.borgman@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.112.48.200]) by 10.112.48.200 with SMTP id o8mr113071lbn.54.1330049927269 (num_hops = 1); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:18:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=prrioAF+Ck284gnSDfWXbm0DLx3CP5u4WNBXW3oesWU=; b=TkugF/JK3YAk8MDTqrDdB6SL5PNVH8XOrmdhLvQo9nFZjlTFvRk+Uq++IhEXLdre7i 0sD+rPPsczORYp60sHIc4fnhLGrn0yL9yWS1yTHmDe8Df2NW1ruhEmkOkGBlgL8x7gzs yx8D8OHzgYKlI7Pfl9YB/ReIYdSrGgSflaSog= Received: by 10.112.48.200 with SMTP id o8mr95084lbn.54.1330049927152; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:18:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.12.6 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:18:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lennart Borgman Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:18:27 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) Please mention the function format-time-string in the elisp manual in the chapter "Time of Day" (39.5 in my version here). From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10876: Please mention format-time-string in "Time of Day" Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 04:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10876 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lennart Borgman Cc: 10876@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10876-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10876.1330144921473 (code B ref 10876); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 04:42:01 +0000 Received: (at 10876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2012 04:42:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54922 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S19SK-00007a-Qw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:42:00 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:53118) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S19SI-00007T-NO for 10876@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:41:59 -0500 Received: from bb116-14-103-36.singnet.com.sg ([116.14.103.36]:55331 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S19Pk-0003d6-87; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 23:39:20 -0500 From: Chong Yidong References: Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 12:39:13 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Fri, 24 Feb 2012 03:18:27 +0100") Message-ID: <87linrmsr2.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Lennart Borgman writes: > Please mention the function format-time-string in the elisp manual in > the chapter "Time of Day" (39.5 in my version here). Please explain why you think it deserves a special mention. There are three nodes all about handling times, one after the other; it is silly to add links in every node to all the other neighboring nodes, unless there is a particularly good reason. From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10876: Please mention format-time-string in "Time of Day" Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10876 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Chong Yidong Cc: 10876@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10876-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10876.13301462818577 (code B ref 10876); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:05:02 +0000 Received: (at 10876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Feb 2012 05:04:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54941 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S19oG-0002EI-Nb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:04:41 -0500 Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44]:36809) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S19oD-0002EB-V7 for 10876@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:04:38 -0500 Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so3553192lah.3 for <10876@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lennart.borgman@gmail.com designates 10.112.28.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.112.28.169; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lennart.borgman@gmail.com designates 10.112.28.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lennart.borgman@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=lennart.borgman@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.112.28.169]) by 10.112.28.169 with SMTP id c9mr2419977lbh.42.1330146119246 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:01:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MsJKseFLeBkgrtO2Q3PYvpk8XFcfifc97tg4B8lqQMY=; b=KZlzfTlozfBJJ7aaJ7WrYPaW5RQ4PWK6l+cSrgjky0CpHZp0ZqbpjHn6qofuHJUPaL jK62JnAOvvYs0uGlu7rPejixYKrvLRj7ITgmGobJ46ZqJypA8l+jdcg+x+WTugiWJuQ/ VN8C+UAPY0laWKkYldF24NUwPTXlRCIPuElsg= Received: by 10.112.28.169 with SMTP id c9mr1988633lbh.42.1330146119169; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:01:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.12.6 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:01:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87linrmsr2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87linrmsr2.fsf@gnu.org> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:01:39 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 05:39, Chong Yidong wrote: > Lennart Borgman writes: > >> Please mention the function format-time-string in the elisp manual in >> the chapter "Time of Day" (39.5 in my version here). > > Please explain why you think it deserves a special mention. =C2=A0There a= re > three nodes all about handling times, one after the other; it is silly > to add links in every node to all the other neighboring nodes, unless > there is a particularly good reason. format-time-string is similar to current-time-string, but more flexible. So they should probably be mentioned in the same place. However maybe a better suggestion is to move current-time-string to "39.7 Parsing and Formatting Times" and add a link to 39.7 from 39.5? (Actually I think the whole part about "date and time" should be a little bit reorganized. Having a heading "Date and Time" (instead of "Time of Day") and subheadings for "Time Conversion" and "Time Parsing" looks better to me.) From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:05 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10876: Please mention format-time-string in "Time of Day" Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10876 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lennart Borgman Cc: 10876@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10876-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10876.133199467021353 (code B ref 10876); Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:32:02 +0000 Received: (at 10876) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Mar 2012 14:31:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54756 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S8uf0-0005YM-8i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:31:10 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36102) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S8uen-0005Xn-N0 for 10876@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:31:08 -0400 Received: from bb121-7-75-119.singnet.com.sg ([121.7.75.119]:52672 helo=ulysses) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8uBQ-0003i9-Ey; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:00:37 -0400 From: Chong Yidong References: <87linrmsr2.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:00:29 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:01:39 +0100") Message-ID: <87d38be39e.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) Lennart Borgman writes: > format-time-string is similar to current-time-string, but more > flexible. So they should probably be mentioned in the same place. > > However maybe a better suggestion is to move current-time-string to > "39.7 Parsing and Formatting Times" and add a link to 39.7 from 39.5? > (Actually I think the whole part about "date and time" should be a > little bit reorganized. Having a heading "Date and Time" (instead of > "Time of Day") and subheadings for "Time Conversion" and "Time > Parsing" looks better to me.) I have tweaked the text to make the connection clearer. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 17 10:31:21 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Mar 2012 14:31:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54758 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S8uf8-0005Yg-P9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:31:20 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:36104) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1S8uew-0005YD-OB for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:31:16 -0400 Received: from bb121-7-75-119.singnet.com.sg ([121.7.75.119]:52673 helo=ulysses) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S8uBa-0003iR-LY for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 10:00:47 -0400 From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 10876 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:00:40 +0800 Message-ID: <874ntnfhtj.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) close 10876 thanks