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X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Cc: Subject: 23.0.60; Feature request: Menu item "load init files" after -q/-Q X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Reiner Steib List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+monnier=iro.umontreal.ca@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+monnier=iro.umontreal.ca@gnu.org X-DIRO-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DIRO-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-DIRO-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (score=-1.94, requis 5, BAYES_00 -2.60, RECEIVED_FROM_NOUNK 0.66, SPF_HELO_PASS -0.00) X-DIRO-MailScanner-From: emacs-devel-bounces+monnier=iro.umontreal.ca@gnu.org Hi, when XEmacs is started with `--vanilla' or `-q', it displays an item "Load init files" in the menu bar. The name of the command in XEmacs is `load-user-init-file'. Maybe Emacs should do have something similar. I'm not sure about where to add it. Maybe a menu entry in the Options menu and a tool bar button? 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Reiner Steib writes: > when XEmacs is started with `--vanilla' or `-q', it displays an item > "Load init files" in the menu bar. The name of the command in XEmacs > is `load-user-init-file'. > > Maybe Emacs should do have [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 108 Cc: Reiner Steib X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Reiner Steib writes: > when XEmacs is started with `--vanilla' or `-q', it displays an item > "Load init files" in the menu bar. The name of the command in XEmacs > is `load-user-init-file'. > > Maybe Emacs should do have something similar. I'm not sure about > where to add it. Maybe a menu entry in the Options menu and a tool bar > button? Hm... I'm not quite sure what the use case here is. I mean, if you say "-q" or "-Q", it's because you want an Emacs without any customisations. So why would you then load ~/.emacs? Hm... OK... I could see that it could help with debugging the init file, for instance. You'd (setq debug-on-error t) or whatever and then hit the load button. But... if you're doing that, you're probably better off just `M-x eval-buffer' in ~/.emacs. So I'm not sure. Anybody got an opinion? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 30 03:23:57 2019 Received: (at 108) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2019 07:23:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56718 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEq2G-00018v-4G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:23:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33388) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEq2E-00018d-Kk for 108@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:23:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34146) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEq29-00068O-9k; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:23:49 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3738 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iEq28-00066s-QF; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:23:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 10:23:47 +0300 Message-Id: <834l0udz7g.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-reply-to: <87blv2l46x.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 30 Sep 2019 07:54:14 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#108: 23.0.60; Feature request: Menu item "load init files" after -q/-Q References: <87blv2l46x.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 108 Cc: 108@debbugs.gnu.org, Reiner.Steib@gmx.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 07:54:14 +0200 > Cc: Reiner Steib > > Reiner Steib writes: > > > when XEmacs is started with `--vanilla' or `-q', it displays an item > > "Load init files" in the menu bar. The name of the command in XEmacs > > is `load-user-init-file'. > > > > Maybe Emacs should do have something similar. I'm not sure about > > where to add it. Maybe a menu entry in the Options menu and a tool bar > > button? > > Hm... I'm not quite sure what the use case here is. I mean, if you say > "-q" or "-Q", it's because you want an Emacs without any > customisations. So why would you then load ~/.emacs? > > Hm... OK... I could see that it could help with debugging the init > file, for instance. You'd (setq debug-on-error t) or whatever and then > hit the load button. But... if you're doing that, you're probably > better off just `M-x eval-buffer' in ~/.emacs. > > So I'm not sure. Anybody got an opinion? I can only contribute a caveat: loading (via 'load') of init files from within a running Emacs session will not 100% reproduce what happens when those init files are loaded during startup, so if the purpose is to allow debugging those files, loading them from Emacs might not recreate the problems one wants to debug. OTOH, I thought we already have some means of debugging the init files, no? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 30 09:20:24 2019 Received: (at 108) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2019 13:20:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57053 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEvbE-0007Sb-CB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:20:24 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f50.google.com ([209.85.221.50]:43426) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEvbC-0007SP-AK for 108@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:20:22 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f50.google.com with SMTP id q17so11288468wrx.10 for <108@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:20:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tcd-ie.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=m4T/8R39iylqsB/jZ6OnI5sH5cG6I645Bh/xI/nxDtY=; b=y0djawHMQ6jtKy8sPynG3HC8EGh9bf+AhFIwtjQOlRjI9p/sSHOiqwsAP7DEOM56El GDp0IkF0yJLUVbYccVa5vurCtjYTErHMiXzaSC5+7l70tZ53WgJV5H3xs4W6B3GH5q+l n1sf9qzuSGy0jEL699j1oqtOy1TMmrGj6GLVhyWyBcCGJv2AiyzydfNCDPLRxZKDuvpz sHnXi/QkGKLnPTn0rwuUYiBMWPwDJDPgYMpqNsDHbcXmcDBuUXJRvtUWLTZHBa4mgu8N bxWrhG/IhfNjM4YHOGXR+URwRO2oeftx2Lo5fPVnNyiU/H4q963JC+SL1gt8VpbsIPKQ Zl5w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=m4T/8R39iylqsB/jZ6OnI5sH5cG6I645Bh/xI/nxDtY=; b=o/zYMHvylpE9YpEvc8U7yL9xYp5eoBfDfHpdiFZ8t9Osw5JKfPHcZQD1BZ+MHyRNQF mjsUYvsbdu54GvqJIYUHGIuknhRO/DEPYKhtL63cBze9q330Z99ZHs+U33MCM+5RjpgL SzGbcRNOBgvX9isNu9P9ubEuWTD5XRRlwHGcoolkMfAS8Z5gkV89016O1T2MlC8w96JL VT5IGqBxAUO5n1h0oja5NPueRaJvIE/As1ijtqAcOLTbfJUQmEtgwE81xzTnnYRXJr6v fpaENj1f4ch/noHSgigNL7IEEmbEhSH0Br0RYst2vYcjr+I0MKKehAO8mLaQFeAjWCii 0mhA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWuyedsb4w8DiXYQ6OpyWoyVPumVQxoIF4EJQ6jOn8PF/s048h4 onjQQizRqaIsGsBKzSGJxuSLeA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxajZxrBoi7Jv3wqEFHC8jazSRGxhR/BNxqKR6nQ+YzOZbVyo8s/Ugkv9b85BF/rVoFuqfH4w== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:694e:: with SMTP id r14mr13122488wrw.34.1569849616428; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([163.172.211.46]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w4sm12582269wrv.66.2019.09.30.06.20.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:20:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#108: 23.0.60; Feature request: Menu item "load init files" after -q/-Q References: <87blv2l46x.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0udz7g.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 14:20:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <834l0udz7g.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 30 Sep 2019 10:23:47 +0300") Message-ID: <87o8z1x6nl.fsf@tcd.ie> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 108 Cc: 108@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen , Reiner.Steib@gmx.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > OTOH, I thought we already have some means of debugging the init > files, no? Such as --debug-init? -- Basil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 30 09:50:56 2019 Received: (at 108) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2019 13:50:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57128 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEw4m-0001tp-Ee for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:50:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39117) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEw4k-0001tb-GQ for 108@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:50:55 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39575) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEw4e-0002zu-No; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:50:49 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4063 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iEw4d-0004Ta-3h; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:50:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:50:45 +0300 Message-Id: <837e5pdhai.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" In-reply-to: <87o8z1x6nl.fsf@tcd.ie> (contovob@tcd.ie) Subject: Re: bug#108: 23.0.60; Feature request: Menu item "load init files" after -q/-Q References: <87blv2l46x.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0udz7g.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z1x6nl.fsf@tcd.ie> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 108 Cc: 108@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, Reiner.Steib@gmx.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 108@debbugs.gnu.org, > Reiner.Steib@gmx.de > Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 14:20:14 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > OTOH, I thought we already have some means of debugging the init > > files, no? > > Such as --debug-init? Among others, yes. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 30 10:14:52 2019 Received: (at 108) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2019 14:14:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60004 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEwRw-0005Iq-14 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 10:14:52 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:54224) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEwRt-0005If-Ai for 108@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 10:14:51 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEwRp-00026I-To; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:14:48 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#108: 23.0.60; Feature request: Menu item "load init files" after -q/-Q References: <87blv2l46x.fsf@gnus.org> <834l0udz7g.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8z1x6nl.fsf@tcd.ie> <837e5pdhai.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:14:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: <837e5pdhai.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:50:45 +0300") Message-ID: <87ftkddg6i.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > OTOH, I thought we already have some means of debugging the init >> > files, no? >> >> Such as --debug-init? > > Among others, yes. I think the general consensus here is that this doesn't sound like a very useful feature, so I'm closing this bug report. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 108 Cc: "Basil L. Contovounesios" , 108@debbugs.gnu.org, Reiner.Steib@gmx.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > OTOH, I thought we already have some means of debugging the init >> > files, no? >> >> Such as --debug-init? > > Among others, yes. I think the general consensus here is that this doesn't sound like a very useful feature, so I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 30 10:15:01 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2019 14:15:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60007 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEwS5-0005JQ-9v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 10:15:01 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:54242) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEwS4-0005J9-86 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 10:15:00 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEwS1-00026Y-HI for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:14:59 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:14:57 +0200 Message-Id: <87eezxdg66.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #108 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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