From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 07 11:56:19 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2012 16:56:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59196 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RuoL5-00087R-9d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:56:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43370) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RuiUU-0006vn-N3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 05:41:39 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RuiTQ-0005bJ-Ku for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 05:40:38 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:36434) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RuiTQ-0005bD-Gp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 05:40:32 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36486) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RuiTK-000858-ML for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 05:40:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RuiTD-0005ZQ-Ic for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 05:40:26 -0500 Received: from exprod7og108.obsmtp.com ([64.18.2.169]:49713) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RuiTD-0005Yw-9a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 05:40:19 -0500 Received: from lkpexcas1.corpnet.ifsworld.com ([193.41.170.135]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob108.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTzD/jxoZJI+GfCEp2jKxxRgbTeJcuTwj@postini.com; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:40:18 PST Received: from LKPEXCCR2.corpnet.ifsworld.com ([10.1.64.6]) by lkpexcas1.corpnet.ifsworld.com ([10.1.64.8]) with mapi; Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:40:14 +0100 From: Mathias Dahl To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:40:13 +0100 Subject: 24.0.50; Vc-rcs under Windows does not make buffer or file read-only when file is checked in Thread-Topic: 24.0.50; Vc-rcs under Windows does not make buffer or file read-only when file is checked in Thread-Index: AQHM5YTfIfVPAnrTxUeubIdxuuzwWA== Message-ID: <50EDADAC3A3FAF45A31816E76E26AFEBAE548CF347@LKPEXCCR2.corpnet.ifsworld.com> Accept-Language: en-US, sv-SE Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, sv-SE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:56:17 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) C-x C-f c:/test.txt RET type some data and save with C-x C-s C-x v v Chose RCS as backend. Notice that the buffer is not read-only, and the same goes for the file. This is dangerous since I by mistake started to edit a file, thinking it was checked out. When I then did C-x v v RCS checked out the previous version on top of my working files, overwriting all my changes. Thanks! /Mathias In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) of 2010-06-08 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/xpm/inc= lude' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: SVE value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Dired by name Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-x C-f m d=20 p g m a p a t o w e =20 d e v =20 C-x v v R C S C-x k=20 C-x k =20 Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Making completion list... [2 times] arg c:/MDAHSE/pgm/apache-tomcat-5.5.26/webapps/devtools/WEB-INF/classes/ arg ./ arg ../ arg devtools.clj Registering (c:/MDAHSE/pgm/apache-tomcat-5.5.26/webapps/devtools/WEB-INF/cl= asses/devtools.clj)... done Load-path shadows: None found. 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We advise you to carry = out your own virus check as we cannot accept liability for damage resulting f= rom software viruses. =0D From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 07 12:57:06 2012 Received: (at 10753) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2012 17:57:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59240 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RupHu-00018V-1k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:57:06 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:46861 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RupHr-00018O-M0 for 10753@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:57:04 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RupGu-0002BV-Js; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:56:04 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: Mathias Dahl Subject: Re: bug#10753: 24.0.50; Vc-rcs under Windows does not make buffer or file read-only when file is checked in References: <50EDADAC3A3FAF45A31816E76E26AFEBAE548CF347@LKPEXCCR2.corpnet.ifsworld.com> X-Spook: South Africa Al Jazeera BCCI Perl-RSA Blowfish ARPA X-Ran: XIun8pz,h+_Qazn&XIj)1caisH?p2@eHtl)boF6|&^@E (Mathias Dahl's message of "Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:40:13 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10753 Cc: 10753@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Mathias Dahl wrote: > C-x C-f c:/test.txt RET > type some data and save with C-x C-s > C-x v v > Chose RCS as backend. > Notice that the buffer is not read-only, and the same goes for the file. It works for me with the current trunk under GNU/Linux. Either this is MS Windows-specific, or... > In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) > of 2010-06-08 on 3249CTO ... that is fairly old. Please try the latest 24.0.9x pretest from alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 07 13:12:42 2012 Received: (at 10753) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2012 18:12:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59254 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RupX0-0001W3-G2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:12:42 -0500 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:51100) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RupWv-0001Vn-Fe for 10753@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:12:41 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LZ100000BR5IE00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 10753@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:11:34 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.162.243]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LZ1000WKBV9CN90@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:11:34 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:11:37 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#10753: 24.0.50; Vc-rcs under Windows does not make buffer or file read-only when file is checked in In-reply-to: <50EDADAC3A3FAF45A31816E76E26AFEBAE548CF347@LKPEXCCR2.corpnet.ifsworld.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Mathias Dahl Message-id: <837gzybjja.fsf@gnu.org> References: <50EDADAC3A3FAF45A31816E76E26AFEBAE548CF347@LKPEXCCR2.corpnet.ifsworld.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10753 Cc: 10753@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) > From: Mathias Dahl > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:40:13 +0100 > > C-x C-f c:/test.txt RET > type some data and save with C-x C-s > C-x v v > Chose RCS as backend. > Notice that the buffer is not read-only, and the same goes for the file. > > This is dangerous since I by mistake started to edit a file, thinking it > was checked out. When I then did C-x v v RCS checked out the previous > version on top of my working files, overwriting all my changes. This rings a bell. Please see if this is not a duplicate of 8924. You can find the RCS binaries I mentioned there on this page: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ezwinports/files/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 07 13:49:03 2012 Received: (at 10753) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2012 18:49:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59274 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ruq69-0002Ml-Ax for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:49:02 -0500 Received: from exprod7og122.obsmtp.com ([64.18.2.22]:38618) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ruq67-0002Mc-BQ for 10753@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:49:00 -0500 Received: from lkpexcas2.corpnet.ifsworld.com ([193.41.170.136]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob122.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTzFx4JztYMKmLu3Vx8NVNR97HrDL0LAy@postini.com; Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:48:02 PST Received: from LKPEXCCR2.corpnet.ifsworld.com ([10.1.64.6]) by lkpexcas2.corpnet.ifsworld.com ([10.1.64.9]) with mapi; Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:47:58 +0100 From: Mathias Dahl To: Glenn Morris Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:47:57 +0100 Subject: RE: bug#10753: 24.0.50; Vc-rcs under Windows does not make buffer or file read-only when file is checked in Thread-Topic: bug#10753: 24.0.50; Vc-rcs under Windows does not make buffer or file read-only when file is checked in Thread-Index: AczlwcZ3UdP7yvb2Su23Ml4sjUvfzgABoi8w Message-ID: <50EDADAC3A3FAF45A31816E76E26AFEBAE5577D6F4@LKPEXCCR2.corpnet.ifsworld.com> References: <50EDADAC3A3FAF45A31816E76E26AFEBAE548CF347@LKPEXCCR2.corpnet.ifsworld.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US, sv-SE Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, sv-SE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10753 Cc: "10753@debbugs.gnu.org" <10753@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) > It works for me with the current trunk under GNU/Linux. > Either this is MS Windows-specific, or... It works for me on Ubuntu GNU/Linux as well. I have tried to debug it and I= haven't=20 been able to arrive at a conclusion (hence this bug report) myself, but I a= m pretty sure it has to do with the fact that it runs under Windows. For some reason= , vs-rcs is not able to set the file read-only after a check in or "register file" o= peration, like under GNU/Linux. I think one of the more experienced Emacs developers who has access to Wind= ows Will be able to recreate and find the cause quite easily. For me, vs-rcs is= a bit to... messy to understand. >... that is fairly old. Please try the latest 24.0.9x pretest from Sorry for that. I do use a newer version but I happened to use the older ve= rsion for reporting the bug. I have the same problem with the pretest from the mi= ddle of January. 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> From: Mathias Dahl 
> Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 20:06:02 +0100
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> Eli's hunch was correct, it had to do with the RCS tool I used, which was from Cygwin. I installed the binaries Eli pointed to and made sure those were found earlier in the PATH and not it seems to work.

Glad you figured this out.




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