From unknown Sun Aug 10 11:48:34 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#10683 <10683@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#10683 <10683@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.4; Reverse video doesn't work for -nw Reply-To: bug#10683 <10683@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 18:48:34 +0000 retitle 10683 23.4; Reverse video doesn't work for -nw reassign 10683 emacs submitter 10683 lmi@ift.uni.wroc.pl severity 10683 normal tag 10683 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 12:27:29 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 17:27:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47466 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsHUO-0006rC-MU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:27:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39837) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsGej-0004qN-Mb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:34:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsGeJ-0005mu-Sv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:33:44 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_DNS_FOR_FROM autolearn=no version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:43867) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsGeJ-0005mq-RO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:33:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38752) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsGeA-0005Kh-B4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:33:39 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsGe5-0005lR-6I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:33:30 -0500 Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl ([156.17.88.33]:50797) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsGe4-0005lM-Pl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:33:25 -0500 Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (Leaky Server) with ESMTP id 32D284AC03 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:51:11 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ift.uni.wroc.pl Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cgPBwarRcs7p for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:51:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl [156.17.88.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (Leaky Server) with ESMTPSA id E45334AC01 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:51:10 +0100 (CET) From: lmi@ift.uni.wroc.pl To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 23.4; Reverse video doesn't work for -nw Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:51:10 +0100 Message-ID: <878vknj2fl.fsf@havoc.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:27:28 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) I just upgraded to 23.4 and suddently background is white and text is black. On IRC I've been told to set-background-color to whatever I like, which is awesome (after you realise that you stop seeing anything, because letters are black now too, and you don't know where the cursor is, because it's black as well). However, I'm not using X, only -nw, which= used to support transparent background just like that, now it seems it is doesn't anymoar, because apparently one cannot unset background colour. In GNU Emacs 23.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) of 2012-01-31 on havoc configured using `configure '--prefix=3D/usr' '--host=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gn= u' '--build=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gnu' '--mandir=3D/usr/share/man' '--infodir= =3D/usr/share/info' '--datadir=3D/usr/share' '--docdir=3D/usr/share/doc/ema= cs-23.4' '--sysconfdir=3D/etc' '--localstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--disable-depe= ndency-tracking' '--disable-silent-rules' '--enable-fast-install' '--libdir= =3D/usr/lib64' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info/emacs' '--without-kerberos' '--= without-kerberos5' '--without-hesiod' '--without-m17n-flt' '--without-xim' = '--without-x' '--with-sound' '--without-xft' '--without-x-toolkit' '--witho= ut-toolkit-scroll-bars' '--without-libotf' '--without-rsvg' '--with-dbus' '= --without-gconf' '--without-gif' '--with-gpm' '--without-jpeg' '--without-p= ng' '--without-tiff' '--without-xpm' 'build_alias=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gnu' 'h= ost_alias=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gnu' 'CC=3Dx86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' 'CFLAGS=3D-= march=3Dnative -pipe -O2' 'CPP=3Dcpp'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: en_US.utf8 value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_US value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: show-paren-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: ESC x r e b DEL p o TAB r TAB RET Recent messages: ("emacs" "-r") Loading start-po...done Loading desktop...done No desktop file. For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Making completion list... kill-region: The mark is not set now, so there is no region [2 times] call-interactively: Text is read-only Load-path shadows: ~/.emacs.d/git-blame hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/git/git-blame ~/.emacs.d/git hides /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/git/git ~/.emacs.d/css-mode hides /usr/share/emacs/23.4/lisp/textmodes/css-mode Features: (shadow sort mail-extr message sendmail ecomplete rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 qp ietf-drums mailabbrev nnheader gnus-util netrc time-date mm-util mail-prsvr gmm-utils wid-edit mailheader canlock sha1 hex-util hashcash mail-utils emacsbug help-mode paren uniquify advice help-fns advice-preload desktop cus-start cus-load edmacro kmacro ruby-mode php-mode derived etags speedbar sb-image ezimage image dframe assoc cc-mode cc-fonts cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs regexp-opt site-exherbo mq mercurial view vc vc-dispatcher diff-mode git log-edit easymenu easy-mmode ring pcvs-util add-log ewoc eclectic-mode exheres-mode exheres-mode-keywords skeleton sh-script executable cmake-mode thingatpt ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties overlay md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process dbusbind multi-tty emacs) --=20 Pozdrawiam, =C5=81ukasz P. Michalik From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 12:31:24 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 17:31:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47477 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsHYB-0006yT-SY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:31:24 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:53574 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsHY8-0006yL-Iq for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:31:21 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsHXr-0006Bh-Q3 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:31:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:31:03 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 10683 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) unarchive 4238 forcemerge 4238 10683 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 12:33:09 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 17:33:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47481 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsHZs-00071Q-IG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:33:09 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:53595 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsHZd-00070c-3C for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:33:06 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsHZM-0006FB-8U for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:32:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:32:36 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 10683 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) unmerge 10683 reopen 10683 From unknown Sun Aug 10 11:48:34 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:34:02 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 13:59:00 2012 Received: (at 10683) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 18:59:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47584 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsIuw-0001Rd-Uv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:59:00 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:54863 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsIuu-0001RT-8x for 10683@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:58:57 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsIub-0003E3-Hf; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:58:37 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: lmi@ift.uni.wroc.pl Subject: Re: bug#10683: 23.4; Reverse video doesn't work for -nw References: <878vknj2fl.fsf@havoc.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> X-Spook: munitions Watergate Skipjack World Trade Center Panama X-Ran: o(B9'-!=Ju.j|81p>4%{P{y1LPk'/eZ?PY~`_!v~:}koD9-w,3(ZQBmlp.oVT4H?]^DNu? X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:58:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: <878vknj2fl.fsf@havoc.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (lmi@ift.uni.wroc.pl's message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:51:10 +0100") Message-ID: <9hy5sn4s2q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10683 Cc: 10683@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Your subject made me think you were talking about --reverse-video -nw, which is http://debbugs.gnu.org/4238, but I guess you aren't. lmi@ift.uni.wroc.pl wrote: > I just upgraded to 23.4 and suddently background is white and text is > black. On IRC I've been told to set-background-color to whatever I > like, which is awesome (after you realise that you stop seeing anything, > because letters are black now too, and you don't know where the cursor > is, because it's black as well). So set the foreground colour too, or use eg emacs -nw -fg white -bg black > However, I'm not using X, only -nw, which used to support transparent > background just like that, now it seems it is doesn't anymoar, because > apparently one cannot unset background colour. Oh I see. You are using emacs -nw inside a transparent terminal emulator, and Emacs detected the background mode as dark when it should have been light (or vice versa), and manually specifying colours loses the transparency effect. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 15:54:07 2012 Received: (at 10683) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 20:54:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47661 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsKiL-0004t8-KD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:54:06 -0500 Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl ([156.17.88.33]:65168) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsKiI-0004sp-K5 for 10683@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:54:04 -0500 Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (Leaky Server) with ESMTP id E2F094AC03; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:53:43 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ift.uni.wroc.pl Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DFiDzkN8-MWl; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:53:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl [156.17.88.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (Leaky Server) with ESMTPSA id 9FBB64AC01; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:53:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:53:43 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz?= Michalik To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#10683: 23.4; Reverse video doesn't work for -nw Message-ID: <20120131205343.GA3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> References: <878vknj2fl.fsf@havoc.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <9hy5sn4s2q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9hy5sn4s2q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10683 Cc: 10683@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Your subject made me think you were talking about --reverse-video -nw, > which is http://debbugs.gnu.org/4238, but I guess you aren't. You are correct, apologies. > Oh I see. You are using emacs -nw inside a transparent terminal > emulator,=20 That is as well correct. > and Emacs detected the background mode as dark when it should > have been light (or vice versa) I don't really understand that, but whatever you say. I used to get transparent background with white fg, now it's reversed. --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk8oVNcACgkQ2Du0fXZKF/UqqwCg1ppAohwTiP705GlXbeFeRo0X mIAAnRxsZg//c7Cjck4FPMLG/M2iEGbK =9cV9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 17:24:02 2012 Received: (at 10683) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 22:24:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47734 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsM7O-0007lH-0T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:24:02 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:58193 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsM7L-0007kz-AV for 10683@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:24:00 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsM72-0003MI-KP; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:23:40 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: =?utf-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz?= Michalik Subject: Re: bug#10683: 23.4; Reverse video doesn't work for -nw References: <878vknj2fl.fsf@havoc.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <9hy5sn4s2q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20120131205343.GA3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> X-Spook: number key Rumsfeld DES clandestine IMF ANZUS HAMASMOIS X-Ran: =PvNg]1:_o%3o|/[;nEQG2zP\v:,OWs*@C6r%6QZ'p[K(h7-j=D^6H[uT$e;SiuAFbn48k X-Hue: cyan X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:23:40 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20120131205343.GA3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> (=?utf-8?Q?=22?= =?utf-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz?= Michalik"'s message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:53:43 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10683 Cc: 10683@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) =C5=81ukasz Michalik wrote: >> and Emacs detected the background mode as dark when it should >> have been light (or vice versa) > I don't really understand that, but whatever you say. I used to get > transparent background with white fg, now it's reversed. Could you say what terminal emulator you are using and what the value of $TERM is? http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D2501 suggests setting COLORFGBG, but I don't know what that does. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 17:40:05 2012 Received: (at 10683) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 22:40:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47738 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsMMv-00088E-Ci for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:40:05 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:58409 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsMMs-000883-Jn for 10683@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:40:03 -0500 Received: from dann by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RsMMa-00075D-0g; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:39:44 -0500 From: Dan Nicolaescu To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#10683: 23.4; Reverse video doesn't work for -nw References: <878vknj2fl.fsf@havoc.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <9hy5sn4s2q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20120131205343.GA3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:39:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:23:40 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10683 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz?= Michalik , 10683@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) Glenn Morris writes: > =C5=81ukasz Michalik wrote: > >>> and Emacs detected the background mode as dark when it should >>> have been light (or vice versa) >> I don't really understand that, but whatever you say. I used to get >> transparent background with white fg, now it's reversed. > > Could you say what terminal emulator you are using and what the value of > $TERM is? > > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D2501 > > suggests setting COLORFGBG, but I don't know what that does. In rxvt COLORFGBG can be used to determine the fg and bg color used by the terminal. Emacs can use that to set the `background-mode', and all the faces are defined based on `background-mode'. It might be interesting to evaluate this: M-: (frame-parameter (selected-frame) 'background-mode)) RET in the old and new emacs and see if that changed. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 01 06:34:10 2012 Received: (at 10683) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2012 11:34:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48230 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsYS0-0002ns-5A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:34:10 -0500 Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl ([156.17.88.33]:53098) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsYRv-0002nc-8u for 10683@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 06:34:06 -0500 Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (Leaky Server) with ESMTP id C635E4AC04; Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:33:40 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ift.uni.wroc.pl Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xWM5pZuHpd44; Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:33:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl [156.17.88.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (Leaky Server) with ESMTPSA id 7F7F94AC01; Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:33:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:33:40 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz?= Michalik To: Dan Nicolaescu Subject: Re: bug#10683: 23.4; Reverse video doesn't work for -nw Message-ID: <20120201113340.GB3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> References: <878vknj2fl.fsf@havoc.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <9hy5sn4s2q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20120131205343.GA3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="98e8jtXdkpgskNou" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10683 Cc: Glenn Morris , 10683@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) --98e8jtXdkpgskNou Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17:39 2012-01-31 -0500, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > Could you say what terminal emulator you are using and what the value of > $TERM is? TERM is rxvt-unicode-256color > In rxvt COLORFGBG can be used to determine the fg and bg color used by > the terminal. Emacs can use that to set the `background-mode', and > all the faces are defined based on `background-mode'. COLORFGBG is 15;0 > It might be interesting to evaluate this: >=20 > M-: (frame-parameter (selected-frame) 'background-mode)) RET It prints 'dark' for both. Another note: frames started for emacsclient aren't affected by this. --98e8jtXdkpgskNou Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk8pIxQACgkQ2Du0fXZKF/UrVACgjGLvf2sZsL7NgGcmpfzwC3bD fcAAn0HTTuLUgNacD0nlgbKVncy6tdHr =gaHm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --98e8jtXdkpgskNou-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 01 23:59:10 2012 Received: (at 10683) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2012 04:59:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49853 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsolK-0006Y6-AS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:59:10 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:40557 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsolH-0006Xy-AL for 10683@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:59:08 -0500 Received: from dann by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rsokr-0000m2-Hi; Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:58:41 -0500 From: Dan Nicolaescu To: =?utf-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz?= Michalik Subject: Re: bug#10683: 23.4; Reverse video doesn't work for -nw References: <878vknj2fl.fsf@havoc.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <9hy5sn4s2q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20120131205343.GA3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> <20120201113340.GB3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:58:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20120201113340.GB3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> (=?utf-8?Q?=22?= =?utf-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz?= Michalik"'s message of "Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:33:40 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10683 Cc: Glenn Morris , 10683@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) =C5=81ukasz Michalik writes: > On 17:39 2012-01-31 -0500, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: >> Could you say what terminal emulator you are using and what the value of >> $TERM is? > > TERM is rxvt-unicode-256color > >> In rxvt COLORFGBG can be used to determine the fg and bg color used by >> the terminal. Emacs can use that to set the `background-mode', and >> all the faces are defined based on `background-mode'. > > COLORFGBG is 15;0 > >> It might be interesting to evaluate this: >>=20 >> M-: (frame-parameter (selected-frame) 'background-mode)) RET > > It prints 'dark' for both. > > Another note: frames started for emacsclient aren't affected by this. Do you see the problem if you start emacs with: emacs -Q -nw ? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 02 07:33:14 2012 Received: (at 10683) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2012 12:33:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50090 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rsvqi-0003Hx-Jl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:33:13 -0500 Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl ([156.17.88.33]:64202) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rsvqg-0003Hm-2k for 10683@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:33:11 -0500 Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (Leaky Server) with ESMTP id 75E724AC04; Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:32:41 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ift.uni.wroc.pl Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hlYOQAw_ZJl1; Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:32:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl [156.17.88.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (Leaky Server) with ESMTPSA id 2DE264AC01; Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:32:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 13:32:41 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz?= Michalik To: Dan Nicolaescu Subject: Re: bug#10683: 23.4; Reverse video doesn't work for -nw Message-ID: <20120202123240.GA24683@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> References: <878vknj2fl.fsf@havoc.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <9hy5sn4s2q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20120131205343.GA3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> <20120201113340.GB3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10683 Cc: Glenn Morris , 10683@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 23:58 2012-02-01 -0500, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > Do you see the problem if you start emacs with: >=20 > emacs -Q -nw > ? Yes. (It might be piece of valuable information that I'm not literally starting emacs with -nw as it's compiled without X support at all.) --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk8qgmgACgkQ2Du0fXZKF/VQ0ACdGPJO4N1xnGG3mpLbarqcQbpW P/sAnjg7XAzgrN6B7JNujJdEUQ37kSr2 =OXIb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 02 09:34:48 2012 Received: (at 10683) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2012 14:34:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50219 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsxkL-00066a-5H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 09:34:47 -0500 Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl ([156.17.88.33]:54258) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RsxkI-00066R-Dd for 10683@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 09:34:43 -0500 Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (Leaky Server) with ESMTP id A13D44AC04; Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:34:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ift.uni.wroc.pl Received: from sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X_zYck4ywFrc; Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:34:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl [156.17.88.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sunflower.ift.uni.wroc.pl (Leaky Server) with ESMTPSA id 43E5E4AC01; Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:34:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:34:13 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz?= Michalik To: Dan Nicolaescu Subject: Re: bug#10683: 23.4; Reverse video doesn't work for -nw Message-ID: <20120202143412.GB24683@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> References: <878vknj2fl.fsf@havoc.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <9hy5sn4s2q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20120131205343.GA3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> <20120201113340.GB3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10683 Cc: Glenn Morris , 10683@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) --mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline OK, I feel really stupid now. I've spent last hour figuring out how emacs figures out how to use colours. I used different terminals, played with TERM and COLORFGBG and Xdefaults. I even created a new user just to test with clean environment. And, it comes to be that years ago (possibly trying to mitigate different problem) I've set alias emacs="emacs -r" in my bashrc and it just started working with 23.4. I apologize for wasting your time and thanks for all the help. --mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk8qnuQACgkQ2Du0fXZKF/WizACghKabB3oPmo2Di3Tysw1nUQ6x 7nEAn2169ncXzud8dM2eDOAOJUfhfwrM =G7ou -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mxv5cy4qt+RJ9ypb-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 02 12:15:52 2012 Received: (at 10683-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2012 17:15:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51082 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rt0GG-0001Yb-DR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:15:52 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:53326 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rt0GE-0001YT-Do for 10683-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:15:51 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rt0Fk-0008HG-It; Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:15:20 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 10683-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#10683: 23.4; Reverse video doesn't work for -nw References: <878vknj2fl.fsf@havoc.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <9hy5sn4s2q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20120131205343.GA3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> <20120201113340.GB3102@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> <20120202143412.GB24683@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> X-Spook: Becker Operation Iraqi Freedom NASA CipherTAC-2000 X-Ran: {BY2g=9ogzdGf63[g||FimoDLe>YBn7dHAo-K^YrB7ee_]~u%n}Pud2V15^~O5!vBzai[) X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:15:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20120202143412.GB24683@havoc.ift.uni.wroc.pl> (=?utf-8?Q?=22?= =?utf-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz?= Michalik"'s message of "Thu, 2 Feb 2012 15:34:13 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10683-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) =C5=81ukasz Michalik wrote: > alias emacs=3D"emacs -r" in my bashrc and it just started working with > 23.4. :) From unknown Sun Aug 10 11:48:34 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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