From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:55:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10670: `fullscreen' frame parameter ill-named Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 10670 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 10670@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.132797475819289 (code B ref -1); Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:53:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2012 01:52:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45960 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs2th-000514-HQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:52:38 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41908) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs2tf-00050r-3B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:52:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs2tM-0008UO-2v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:52:17 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:42589) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs2tM-0008UK-1R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:52:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46626) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs2tK-000774-I4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:52:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs2tI-0008Tx-RM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:52:14 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:4173) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs2tI-0008Tn-Lq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:52:12 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkcHACdIJ09MCqD0/2dsb2JhbABDnj0BkBiBBoJPEwFLDwQhARwNVaB1n3SLKRICAgMGAgQCAQQCAgwGgwMLAgIBBBMLBAZsAQQEPYMaBIg/mnOEVw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,592,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="160383637" Received: from 76-10-160-244.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.160.244]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 30 Jan 2012 20:52:11 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 979F059470; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:52:11 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:52:11 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) Package: Emacs Severity: minor Version: 24.0.92 The frame parameter `fullscreen' is ill-named: I think that it should be renamed to `maximized' with accepted values nil, `vertical', `horizontal', `both', or `fullscreen'. Stefan In GNU Emacs 24.0.92.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.8) of 2012-01-17 on pastel Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11103901 Configured using: `configure 'CFLAGS=-Wall -Wno-pointer-sign -DUSE_LISP_UNION_TYPE -DSYNC_INPUT -DENABLE_CHECKING -DXASSERTS -DFONTSET_DEBUG -g -O0' '--with-tiff=no'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: fr_CH.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: InactiveMinibuffer Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t electric-pair-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t url-handler-mode: t global-reveal-mode: t reveal-mode: t auto-insert-mode: t savehist-mode: t minibuffer-electric-default-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: f i c h i e r SPC C SPC M-q C-e C-x C-s C-c C-c 2 C-x C-s C-c C-c 2 2 4 5 C-a C-x C-s C-c C-c M-x r e p o - e m - b Recent messages: Ispell-kill: fr american Ispell process killed Starting new Ispell process [american] ... 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Monnier writes: > The frame parameter `fullscreen' is ill-named: I think that it should be > renamed to `maximized' with accepted values nil, `vertical', > `horizontal', `both', or `fullscreen'. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Monnier writes: > The frame parameter `fullscreen' is ill-named: I think that it should be > renamed to `maximized' with accepted values nil, `vertical', > `horizontal', `both', or `fullscreen'. I think that makes sense, but I'm not sure just how we would deprecate something like that. We could introduce a `maximized' parameter and use it in preference of `fullscreen', and add some special code to issue a (run-time?) deprecation warning... but I'm not sure the effort (on our part) and pain (for the users) would be worth it. Anybody got any opinions here? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:55:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10670: `fullscreen' frame parameter ill-named Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 18:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10670 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Monnier Cc: 10670@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10670-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10670.161116738616176 (code B ref 10670); Wed, 20 Jan 2021 18:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 10670) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2021 18:29:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56270 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2IEj-0004Cq-OP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 13:29:45 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:43023) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2IEh-0004Cb-Ks for 10670@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 13:29:44 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1611167374; bh=rkFLjdnA+aO9PrfS/euxRyX9zlLung9EgYz9SLJjh7o=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Q0WIVwgOITptI0Qjn+cBtnNu1rIqRM8EMMAhD8gmxgv7q/cYc5hWGK4v00cjK38NL pTO7itx0FKKATOAuomfZ7Q1uhJVW0T+csNIsJ6Vps/1I6F9kcx8qygoeVGO/ji/ie5 XobiC3RwoNX2c7tokRuimfF6+//8KMSBUzhDQSGE= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.5.241]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MbzyP-1lbM8H191r-00dXq8; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 19:29:34 +0100 References: <874kjbo6ts.fsf@gnus.org> From: martin rudalics Message-ID: <0adfd5c9-e194-9b26-24b6-db7636ed0709@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 19:29:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <874kjbo6ts.fsf@gnus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:0litpEFwgqeHICi/coqGFdVJiuKZcO5hNEu5j/c7cyIFnSk/+f7 YUOdj+a0MteZmFWT5uKK8g2KIHWfFzcBGMH/aMumzVcprUV8WSMi/89DFiBVTkn+316J/sz jknpK4bJxZWT9ESOfOtLWRDj0+ZeMZruBCqfxTfXSBc9076inIMBOW0e6FdED4GCDiPlYqq IAvgyCMoN699pWZGs6rGg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:3D2vDhstC6g=:TVMAKdtYvCClNQ1MsWzNSj r0lSRztVU7lUPljEwMd9haass3MiizxVWcodNMLIlgShTZz0s2StvZF7c6YSdv2USbNiNlRmN zfO5WWiiJl0Jlhzs9ZcEIGBixEBJ2KBHqsfjsdr5dI9v93WF5mYRxNvA0lShrbCUoeJUREaAf E13oXJ/6D3l8RcCwJfNS5AzBZeDHWSofIYm0Ev8uOrlOHpoTwP3WlpLCfcabOH+4KU5rt8cQq P7Z9E3KVOt6G7065TaHPJNfq4ibBJ+DS7cKyymn0rUHpybvK5qiYTaINq6nJresod8LRQnpTP v71WunPgu7elkk6IQqBuHG7iVswaTybYaBiq+LMK8xsbY7zkmfQi7PZBLqyHrnS6tQ3TWrivd 513QLNP7Gigx2HjdJRx+2Mgskhr55Y1PBouwz7c5MgiVlN6NIq759I0vmdSTVzAwfHsWe0IS6 8YOqV6elOswwgnOWPLL77FXoqdrSDGCBPogxgaGL9ZHEhf8MUn+IYLntfaWsbU2AYVQBYB2cj CJLBeKYZ2EKRhdgCd6hnRWZzi3B2ysUbpn4Z8+7+HQXALmDzrnELQiiXq+BMWqurh3U1nS6PT 7pxEpwvC3fNS7+cb3dtZ3MjUVWwMVJ4iUgtTgpSLacNdopBBecQfbX8mUnIMd25LUwC8UVtFm P9gvwrooO5ACKuv24brbCdB0bsJse/eQ8Q9zlEKlsud9/P5FgbdcWpPZIUyXT6in5zYasGiJU QABjaSvHQhQYOPS/zI5nOQrvCEe4sNBb1L6LgMt5Bm0sd6wbhUQEnWwDN246tnLYe2BGuzOiw SKZTkdSLGuRew/EjHP/oiMKeniH6jsftMw/btoH798frE155ytXYnKnkHbSbXe/3h8G7kV8sY KZFgFOQzrAA9gHvUzmwg== X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> The frame parameter `fullscreen' is ill-named: I think that it should be >> renamed to `maximized' with accepted values nil, `vertical', >> `horizontal', `both', or `fullscreen'. > > I think that makes sense, but I'm not sure just how we would deprecate > something like that. We could introduce a `maximized' parameter and use > it in preference of `fullscreen', and add some special code to issue a > (run-time?) deprecation warning... but I'm not sure the effort (on our > part) and pain (for the users) would be worth it. > > Anybody got any opinions here? 'maximized' is a WM concept, usually has an API and pretty well defined semantics there (show a title bar with the corresponding indicator, do not show the outer borders, cover the entire working area) and has little or nothing to do with the other values (except that they are mutually exclusive). So the proposed renaming would be misguided IMHO. martin From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:55:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10670: `fullscreen' frame parameter ill-named Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 20:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10670 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 10670@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen Received: via spool by 10670-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10670.1611172778408 (code B ref 10670); Wed, 20 Jan 2021 20:00:02 +0000 Received: (at 10670) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2021 19:59:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56323 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2Jdh-00006V-PP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 14:59:37 -0500 Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:24485) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2Jdf-00006I-Mr for 10670@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 14:59:36 -0500 Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E097744080E; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 14:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 48DEC4402E6; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 14:59:28 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1611172768; bh=Ym4m5OA8youqe+Rj9xbwraUkgUkO6o2oFd9ESAuiniY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=GOHKQa/SeKAp4a/hE0kDEDMSFbfP05ulKr/15AQkxrK67mHydiiGupR9N3rMIDb3c ia06USRlnobutWpyaBtMqMHRiWvThwG/+UQ4C4+Ns8VDRylHuhu3NQGKk3glTgZ/fG MBJAhbUUM1oR7yhlUzFq1AyW7zjrm9zx6jfhGBJkciLphwzdwRaPMrBOM034gaiVse ni+7tT5BFVYOgE3w6CGYPLEV1PuU1uaX1AFaw21Ewe42kf47pK+4yR1LnM1vluxWSW Wb78zsBrIttMg1xzcmlsYA5cdxkf9TvUnQZofyBmw1OMQPfqtzTt7z7BWuGXkuHQzJ 40mzyi+RDA5SA== Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.224.181]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EEFBC12023F; Wed, 20 Jan 2021 14:59:27 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <874kjbo6ts.fsf@gnus.org> <0adfd5c9-e194-9b26-24b6-db7636ed0709@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 14:59:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: <0adfd5c9-e194-9b26-24b6-db7636ed0709@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Wed, 20 Jan 2021 19:29:31 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL -0.039 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain X-SPAM-LEVEL: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) >>> The frame parameter `fullscreen' is ill-named: I think that it should be >>> renamed to `maximized' with accepted values nil, `vertical', >>> `horizontal', `both', or `fullscreen'. >> >> I think that makes sense, but I'm not sure just how we would deprecate >> something like that. We could introduce a `maximized' parameter and use >> it in preference of `fullscreen', and add some special code to issue a >> (run-time?) deprecation warning... but I'm not sure the effort (on our >> part) and pain (for the users) would be worth it. >> >> Anybody got any opinions here? > > 'maximized' is a WM concept, usually has an API and pretty well defined Right, WM now claimed "maximized" as their own term as well, indeed, after doing the same for "fullscreen". So if we want to change the current misleading nomenclature and try to be futureproof we should use a parameter name that sounds unlike any word a sane WM designer will want to use for anything. Maybe `use-of-screen-real-estate-status`? Stefan From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:55:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10670: `fullscreen' frame parameter ill-named Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 14:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10670 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: martin rudalics , 10670@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10670-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10670.161123993327619 (code B ref 10670); Thu, 21 Jan 2021 14:39:01 +0000 Received: (at 10670) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2021 14:38:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57224 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2b6q-0007BP-KZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:38:52 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:58014) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2b6o-0007Az-55 for 10670@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:38:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=pno30LUwqUZOFAzyw7JoG/3Jpz85X5m3D66q7CNoDWU=; b=QbC7k7YUy0tknZli0hF2kE38HO j6mJjZ4H4+bd9oE6Bz1+icdYC2sLMeiSnAScrC8IE1rba8hrj0qrASA0eBhBV0uaK2DxeTOEJjdzm n9fc0UlPv5v8bmznIdPcQ5Cqvec84Fsk06I7dzvZ8Nf6ig9/rnGUzf+vpZg1wtyU4sV8=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l2b6e-0005yx-L7; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:38:43 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <874kjbo6ts.fsf@gnus.org> <0adfd5c9-e194-9b26-24b6-db7636ed0709@gmx.at> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAALVBMVEWXlpP+/v7o6+xN p/eZyfKCgX3T1teAfnp9e3d0b24eFhZUT1JGNjeiWyX///8QTMQsAAAAAWJLR0QOb70wTwAAAAd0 SU1FB+UBFQ4lJA6Ut7AAAAGiSURBVDjLxdK9TuNAEAfwNVIQQRQZFxYl68INZXgEHiAg+UIZu3BB hZCs3XQ00a6oUqEIUaArBzc0FCHNdSdneYFIvAuzgL8Sp6Bi5Gp+nv3PWmaMMQfWy+cu9dnOWrvf 758AGzD2ZxP6YCcGrUATjDfhlIqgwzoRbBa76rC9Vki3wSQM20Gl22HI20Cn4aAdRHgDP4M0vCrC 4wao8OLmW0a1MKZ0KApxE14HoYX8Et9PouooqbTWchrZvg+JX4KWBMqKa+UoKsGWFPLsE2I+ioqt Ugt6HAXgBnESxHExMRFDOmvC7+9IkqCcsFspraYeIkk8Cgqw7xNeHyLiC9D/VNxDyIlU4di5xIWh mWC32moo1VDx+8yYV3NXXnCmlaCHIkxDWHcm7LrXPcxySsGsAK9rP8nYOZ7TSIb4WAB43RltxW8X +JS/rfC5BCti6qLJs8X7KncqAG9vdt7DpzkuzSqDGtBMdIz/DaIpI74APL6PFEwp/5oA0PvcFdFZ h2/J+AaQLB+qiBqA9/Ca/20D8A6qiAaAN+ftAC5sAfhNqG31ARSB4felKw/AAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRl OmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTAxLTIxVDE0OjM3OjM2KzAwOjAwfdVHfQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkA MjAyMS0wMS0yMVQxNDozNzozNiswMDowMAyI/8EAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: repository's _Depeche Mode_: "Black Celebration: The 12" Singles (5): A Question of Time (Limited Edition)/02-A Question Of Time (Live Remix).mp3" Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:38:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 20 Jan 2021 14:59:26 -0500") Message-ID: <87sg6ujqxc.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Monnier writes: > Right, WM now claimed "maximized" as their own term as well, indeed, > after doing the same for "fullscreen". So if we want to change the > current misleading nomenclature and try to be futureproof [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Monnier writes: > Right, WM now claimed "maximized" as their own term as well, indeed, > after doing the same for "fullscreen". So if we want to change the > current misleading nomenclature and try to be futureproof we should use > a parameter name that sounds unlike any word a sane WM designer will > want to use for anything. > > Maybe `use-of-screen-real-estate-status`? `embiggeningness'. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:55:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10670: `fullscreen' frame parameter ill-named Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 14:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10670 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: martin rudalics , 10670@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10670-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10670.161124106532041 (code B ref 10670); Thu, 21 Jan 2021 14:58:01 +0000 Received: (at 10670) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2021 14:57:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59073 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2bP6-0008Kh-Oz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:57:45 -0500 Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:11991) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l2bP5-0008KI-FH for 10670@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:57:43 -0500 Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A7793101AA5; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E085410021B; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:57:35 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1611241055; bh=4TiXnCLNEe90AexJMZ9ElS6XCfkQICoGH4eUZ7ghhIE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=FYwrrRFhXzurFDnASvsJv5CTuR/pZz/HS13IXZ/bUp2+AooCDsfonyc9oq5pWFhxp h5i726je4qhA7r3PBaVoOObr4fdwKWkz+XmPIXBbeNXWZ45XpTeI9JYdhANHGbA3rx wPRm2lz1RF2gwT322AO8fjuDYyzuWNdYWfjys6DW/WEh8pet3ZeQsMSMZIpo7zxn0s Wt55sYxuTE8iIF7zyU4X6mLCpT3r6l69RJ+easVv/r6rBppe67L717AaHqofEI1gbA JlWD60ucqC44w+xTmPogwmjaqANTKzGMzmWmcp2Bwh/3vQm985Jou1bOHKpr+OjqLx sIVAo/i2XN2+Q== Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.224.181]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B29FC120310; Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:57:35 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <874kjbo6ts.fsf@gnus.org> <0adfd5c9-e194-9b26-24b6-db7636ed0709@gmx.at> <87sg6ujqxc.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:57:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87sg6ujqxc.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:38:39 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL -0.062 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain X-SPAM-LEVEL: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) >> Right, WM now claimed "maximized" as their own term as well, indeed, >> after doing the same for "fullscreen". So if we want to change the >> current misleading nomenclature and try to be futureproof we should use >> a parameter name that sounds unlike any word a sane WM designer will >> want to use for anything. >> >> Maybe `use-of-screen-real-estate-status`? > > `embiggeningness'. You got my vote! Stefan From unknown Wed Jun 25 10:55:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#10670: `fullscreen' frame parameter ill-named Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 04:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10670 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: martin rudalics , 10670@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 10670-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10670.161172093629607 (code B ref 10670); Wed, 27 Jan 2021 04:16:02 +0000 Received: (at 10670) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2021 04:15:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43305 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l4cEy-0007hC-3K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 23:15:36 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35920) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l4cEw-0007Zn-Kr for 10670@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 23:15:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=2QQAa+4DuI8ITd2zM0YIhPRjj/LrOw7c7/6zrZZfdxM=; b=rIVsk+o0UgxsR/h38tlWq5rgtP zgxA0pj+8FKIJvP4Vjf7AA3RGGP2sjH5A1/Tp/hXl6XnK2abFCfb2DF2NnmY95RRm5iEwcaEvebZr b9LiKwUYNH9WmYhAxsj3LmJGWi0lMihW5UDERCeikNpQfo4A7BWLOOT69OiIC/Q86MhM=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l4cEn-00015S-OB; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 05:15:28 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <874kjbo6ts.fsf@gnus.org> <0adfd5c9-e194-9b26-24b6-db7636ed0709@gmx.at> <87sg6ujqxc.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAALVBMVEUBFEcTI1MsMklZ Vl4EEj4YK2YnOHE5SYVYZZp7hLOgqMs2RHWkrM8pPID///+/qMg3AAAAAWJLR0QOb70wTwAAAAd0 SU1FB+UBGwQOCz59hWUAAAFQSURBVDjL3ZKxTsMwEIbtinb2RUoXlia8AJAX6NAHMEPSlQ51OrLg WGJCqORCeYC0YqetmFhA4glAmXkezomiQkQluiDEL3n5P99v+86M/Udx5wgAHNH0HQ88AgIafou2 BsEhA94A4HjOcdBjrSZoeb7v0TroNc/wrbzmCfXFBPsj6n9n7m0Dg20xg7rs56DPdhWPojBUsZkv 1rkei9KqQKy0esL5Q1EUqCUIDna8tkIleoJ5RmSpmdhkuSq+IIAE3i4/Ax5GiSFwR+DsC3CjJCNw UxSvkkFFeJVFYIWUdS87IzJKSO8DW4GpyVZatsdulK1zTG1VF0/5ie0NBzVc5POlfi4B6xodz8Lh VHRGfHi7wus2Gm2j2mFkUjRT1qcvtT+TrHPuCgu4q56RgKteJNQNqZ4Yxgkm7xNM5cYsv2VQCvOr R78W87do5yn9ij4A9Wdnd7fOxXMAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMDEtMjdUMDQ6MTQ6 MTErMDA6MDCHkvTeAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTAxLTI3VDA0OjE0OjExKzAwOjAw 9s9MYgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Purr's _Whales Lead to the Deep Sea_: "Better" Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 05:15:24 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:57:34 -0500") Message-ID: <875z3jc8wz.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stefan Monnier writes: >> `embiggeningness'. > > You got my vote! So think the conclusion here was that perhaps this is too much churn (for Emacs and the users) to warrant the renaming, even if the current name is less than optimal. So I'm closing this bug report. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Monnier writes: >> `embiggeningness'. > > You got my vote! So think the conclusion here was that perhaps this is too much churn (for Emacs and the users) to warrant the renaming, even if the current name is less than optimal. So I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 26 23:15:49 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2021 04:15:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43308 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l4cFB-0007uE-G5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 23:15:49 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35936) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l4cFA-0007oT-8W for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 23:15:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=3KSj+49F+o4xuKtzPo/+Wy5BcbRkc2tZtxAMXTl2/wU=; b=mjoU3SFo21a6EuKZDRDYFXCY+0 m0MKJq/9YluFTHtH4H7fuk43ndhQ9R3xn6vXZcTl2z0EVEno3OC3xSIT4SGofMwNrjCIVFSa0Koxm yNcxX4af9ho3N/+RNPnz6RWUoKfbRXdx3kx5eFdvcZBbVJeVho2KlBmltnNbCaeXAdpw=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l4cF2-00015f-ND for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 05:15:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 05:15:39 +0100 Message-Id: <871re7c8wk.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #10670 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: tags 10670 wontfix close 10670 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 10670 wontfix close 10670 quit