From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 30 13:07:33 2012 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jan 2012 18:07:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45499 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrvdc-0000B9-Qy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:07:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47899) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrvdb-0000Ax-Kj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:07:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrvdG-0006E8-8N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:07:15 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]:59532) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RrvdG-0006E4-6q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:07:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34453) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrvd9-0000fB-WA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:07:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrvd0-00069z-Po for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:07:03 -0500 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:34076) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rrvd0-00069S-KG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:06:54 -0500 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id q0UI6qeU016304 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:06:53 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q0UI6qu0000454 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:06:52 GMT Received: from abhmt105.oracle.com (abhmt105.oracle.com [141.146.116.57]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q0UI6qZr010215 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:06:52 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:06:51 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.0.93; (elisp) `Position Parse' belongs after `Parser State' Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:06:51 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AczfefDVv5VF2V39TLecSfWSEWQsQw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090202.4F26DC3D.014E,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) The subject line says it all. To understand `Position Parse' you should have read `Parser State' to know what the parser state is all about. In GNU Emacs 24.0.93.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-01-29 on MARVIN Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include --ldflags -LD:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/lib' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 16 08:32:42 2012 Received: (at 10663) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2012 13:32:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42348 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ry1Ru-0007qk-E1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:32:42 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:55351 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ry1Ro-0007qa-Ov for 10663@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:32:36 -0500 Received: from bb121-6-68-155.singnet.com.sg ([121.6.68.155]:52373 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ry1Q4-000257-6y; Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:30:44 -0500 From: Chong Yidong To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#10663: 24.0.93; (elisp) `Position Parse' belongs after `Parser State' References: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:30:36 +0800 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:06:51 -0800") Message-ID: <87fweanbwj.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10663 Cc: 10663@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) "Drew Adams" writes: > The subject line says it all. To understand `Position Parse' you should > have read `Parser State' to know what the parser state is all about. After re-reading the chapter, I disagree. The current order reads better. It provides the motivation for caring about the parser state first, then describes how the parser state is actually represented. Closing the bug. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 16 08:32:49 2012 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2012 13:32:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42351 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ry1S5-0007r6-5T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:32:49 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:55355 ident=Debian-exim) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ry1S3-0007r0-Uh for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:32:48 -0500 Received: from bb121-6-68-155.singnet.com.sg ([121.6.68.155]:52374 helo=furball) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ry1QJ-00025X-Kn for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:31:00 -0500 From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 10663 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 21:30:52 +0800 Message-ID: <87aa4i29df.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) close 10663 thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 16 11:35:04 2012 Received: (at 10663) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Feb 2012 16:35:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42745 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ry4IR-00063Z-JT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:35:04 -0500 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:51584) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ry4IO-000633-MB for 10663@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:35:01 -0500 Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q1GGX5ua001040 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:33:05 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1GGX4iJ002904 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:33:04 GMT Received: from abhmt109.oracle.com (abhmt109.oracle.com [141.146.116.61]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q1GGX3wD011572; Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:33:03 -0600 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:33:03 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Chong Yidong'" References: <87fweanbwj.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#10663: 24.0.93; (elisp) `Position Parse' belongs after `Parser State' Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:33:02 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87fweanbwj.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: AczsrzPWpqQrrka6QG23xzuFw1YNRAAF4Uuw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4F3D2FC2.005F,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 10663 Cc: 10663@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.9 (------) > > The subject line says it all. To understand `Position > > Parse' you should have read `Parser State' to know what > > the parser state is all about. > > After re-reading the chapter, I disagree. The current order reads > better. It provides the motivation for caring about the parser state > first, then describes how the parser state is actually represented. > Closing the bug. 1. On second thought, I think you are right. At that point, a reader need not know any details about the parser state. Thanks for checking/re-reading. 2. But a reader might well wonder what the text here is talking about when it mentions "parser state" without any description, however brief. A forward cross reference here to the node that tells readers what "parser state" is would help. (Too bad we can't simply make the words "parser state" here be such a link.) 3. Another minor improvement to consider: be consistent about the "state" terminology. This node uses both "parse state" (in the heading) and "parser state". Presumably these terms refer to the same state. FYI, the term "parse state" is used only once in this section of the book (in this heading), and only once in another section: node `Syntactic Font Lock'. Elsewhere, "parser state" seems to be the preferred term - including (a) as a node name, (b) as an index entry, and (c) within double quotes as a defined term. From unknown Mon Jun 23 16:47:01 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator